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Pete Carroll presser: “We can’t let their tempo dictate our play.”

Post by Ryan Divish on Oct. 10, 2012 at 1:23 pm with 50 Comments »
October 10, 2012 2:03 pm

Here’s a few notes and quotes from Pete Carroll’s weekly Wednesday press conference …

On the injury front …

OG John Moffit (knee),  DT Jay Howard (foot), DT Clinton McDonald (groin), C Max Unger (hip) will not practice today. Carroll called it “a hip deal” for Unger, but said he didn’t think it would keep him out for Sunday’s game. If Unger somehow couldn’t go on Sunday, Lemuel JeanPierre would be the starting center. Jean-Pierre vs. Vince Wilfork …. in a word: Yikes!

On the bright side, Carroll said cornerback Walter Thurmond is “one week away.”

“He’s ready to go when the PUP status is lifted,” Carroll said. “We’ll see how that works out. Tha’ts accoridng to Walter. He’s really cranked up and ready to go. We really encouraged him to work really hard in his rehab so when he gets back he’s ready to play. It would be a big boost to us.”

There was a lot of talk about the uptempo, no-huddle offense of the Patriots.

“We really have a very difficult challenge here,” Carroll said. “All the experience in the world you could want on their side, shows. They are doing some really cool things on offense. Tom Brady is as good as you get. So it’s an exciting opportunity for us. I feel a little like Felix Baumgartner hanging on the edge of the capsule.”

Don’t know who Felix Baumgartner is? Well, here you go.

But back to New England’s tempo …. obviously Eric linked to the story about Oregon coach Chip Kelly hanging out with Belichik and working on this aspect of the offense.

“They’re not modeling after a college offense, they’re modeling after a college tempo,” Carroll said. “They’re doing their own offense, but they are featuring the tempo – the philosophical approach of playing with that kind of speed. It’s very common in college. It’s not in the league. No-huddle offenses so often are talked about, but they’v never been a factor to me until they go into this kind of time span where they snap plays every 15 to 17 seconds. They’ve been ahead of the curve. It’s been really hard on their opponents.”

One of the things that is an issue is player fatigue and subbing in different packages defensively. There are rules to it.

“There are some restrictions,” Carroll said. “We are allowed to substitute when they substitute, and we are allowed to get our guys on the field. We’ll see what that means. It’s not as easy as that sounds. We understand how that works. We are planning accordingly.”

And then there is this …

“If you stop team, they didn’t spent very much time on the field … literally. These guys have had 2 three and outs in five games. That will be a major accomplishment if we get them out fo there on three plays. I don’t know how that’s going  to happen cause nobody else can do it. I think they have 101 first downs in the last three weeks which is an all time record in a three week span. I don’t even know what you asked because I kind of lost my mind thinking about it.”

Can Pete draw anything from playing Oregon in the past?

“Certainly there is, preparing for that was most challenging,” Carroll said. “The fact that they’ve studied with Chip and he’s helped out – I’m still kind of pissed at (kidding).  You have to experience what this is like to adapt well. I think that’s why coaches that have been in the league that haven’t been in college and seen this kind of tempo. You find out the hard way. We’ll find out. We know what it is. We know what they are going to do and how they are going to do it when they speed it up. We’ll see if we can match it. If we can, we’ll have a chance to play pretty good. The point is, we can’t let their tempo, dictate our play.”

Other nuggets …

What makes Tom Brady so good?

“He’s won a lot of Super Bowls,” Carroll said.

On the process he went through after being fired by the Pats?

Yeah, great I love to talk about that. I think five days later I was in Disney World. That’s always been my mode when something like that occurs. That was a time in the franchise when they needed to make a big pitch to build a stadium and all that stuff. They needed momentum and they made a great pick in Bill (Parcells). As far as I’m concerned, it was hard. I wasn’t really knocked down about it. I was embarrassed.”

“What I learned from that situation, is to be a really successful head coach,you need to have control otherwise it’s someone else’s job you are dealing with,” he said. “That’s why everything that came out of that experience changed me. I’ve never been the same since. It took me 10 or 11  months before I got giong on the next job. During that time, everything that now is the philosophy, the approach, the mentality, everything,  the language, everything came out of that experience. It is one classically one of those deals where you get kicked in the tail and you come out better. I hate to learn the hard way.”

“Fortunately, at SC because of the auton0my, I got to do everything – general manager, coach, the whole thing, you did it all. That’s why I never thought I would ever leave there because I would never thought I  would get another opportunity that was like that. I wasn’t leaving unless I did. I wasn’t looking leave. I just thought I would never a chance in the league to do that, until this opportunity presented itself.”

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  1. “I don’t even know what you asked because I kind of lost my mind thinking about it.”

    and

    What makes Tom Brady so good? “He’s won a lot of Super Bowls,” Carroll said.

    Ah Hahahahaha! WHooo! Funniest stuff I’ve read in awhile! Damn, thats funny!

    Thanks for that, Eric! Keep up the great work!

  2. HawkfaninMT says:

    I think PC forgot his ADD meds this morning

  3. We could end up in a lot of nickel and dime defense on Sunday. Seems to me KJ Wright’s pass coverage has been picked by opponents lately. Our young safeties had better step it up, and we could use another big safety like Winston Guy for this game. I hope he’s ready.

  4. Noticed this from Danny O’Neil the other day, not sure if anyone posted here…

    “In evaluating the results of that decision after five games, the best comparison isn’t to the rest of the quarterbacks who are starting in this league or the guy who could be starting here in Matt Flynn, but the 20 rookies who started at quarterback in Week 1 over the past 20 years.

    Only six of those other rookies had a better quarterback rating than Wilson’s 75.3 at this point, a total that includes fellow rookies Robert Griffin III in Washington and Andrew Luck in Indianapolis.

    Wilson is playing significantly better than Joe Flacco did in his first five games for Baltimore in 2008, a year in which the Ravens not only reached the playoffs but won two games to advance to the AFC Championship Game.

    The most comparable performance to Wilson on that list of rookie starters is probably Matt Ryan of Atlanta, who had an identical quarterback rating and record after five games his rookie season, a year in which the Falcons made the playoffs.”

    http://seattletimes.com/html/dannyoneil/2019387527_oneil10.html?prmid=obinsource

  5. jchawks08 says:

    Only took 3 comments to turn this into a QB convo. That’s got to be a record.
    And Hawkfann, you beat me to the ADD joke. Our coach is crazy. Good crazy.

  6. bbnate420 says:

    Good stuff, Stevos. If RW ends up with a 88 QB rating this year, along with close to his other statistics, like Ryan did, I think we’d all be happy here. Well, maybe not the Debbie Downers.

  7. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Man I need to stay off of this blog, because I was happy being ignorant and in denial. I thought we had a really good chance to pull off an upset. But after listening to Eric’s podcast, and after reading this, I’m really concerned about this game. I now have the same sense of foreboding about this game as I did for last year’s week 2 Steeler game. I pray we are competitive in this game.

    They go no huddle, and they’ve only had 3 3 and outs in 101 snaps? Moreover, they have another younger, faster, Wes Welker like receiver who maybe coming back from an injury? Then their TE’s? This is going to be a really difficult game. Really, at this point, I just hope we don’t get embarrassed and/or blown out.

  8. bbnate420 says:

    The Hawks have a decent chance against ANY team at home. Hopefully, Hernandez is still hobbled.

    So, hopefully we’ll have Thurmond back for the week 8 game. That would give him 2 weeks of practice before he plays. Who gets cut. Gorrer or Lane?

  9. Hawksince77 says:

    Stevos,

    I have read many stories about the Seahawks game last week, and many mention things like the improvement of Wilson, or whatever, but how he still makes “rookie mistakes”.

    I just watched all of his pass plays again, and his six incompletions consisted of 3 balls thrown away, 2 interceptions (1 of which was a poor throw) and one genuine incompletion where he over-threw Rice.

    He never forced the ball; never made a poor decision (unless you count the possibility of NOT making a throw he could have); the first INT wasn’t a poor decision – right read, bad throw, a couple of feet behind the receiver.

    Every other throw was on target – 20 good decisions/accurate throws against 2 balls that were poorly thrown (although neither of them terrifble, other than from a results perspective).

    The point is, those are elite accuracy numbers. That is elite decision making (based on what he is being coached to do).

    He scrambled a few times, was sacked twice (if memory serves) but those aren’t disasterous, and given the circumstances, may have been the right things to do (hard to tell watching on TV).

    This also doesn’t count the long ball to Tate, arguably the most beautiful throw he’s made all season.

    The early drives that ended in field goals are clearly the result of playing it safe in the red zone, and not risking the points. Run/run/pass, every time. They play different when they need the points: witness the series that ended in the TD to Tate: run/pass/pass-TD. Wilson will put the ball in the endzone when they need it – witness Cards/Packers games.

    The top accuracy wasn’t always on short throws, either. Several thrown well down the field, and right on the money.

    Lesser defense or not, I am surprised people aren’t more congnizent of Seattle’s QB play. Not just good for a rookie; just plain good.

    Go watch ANY other NFL QB, and see if you can find a matching performance relative to game-long accuracy and decision making. What you will find is occasional brain-farts from the best, throwing balls they have no business even considering. And even when they make good reads, you will see elite QBs miss their receivers multiple times a game.

    All this bodes so well for the future. We just witnessed a glimpse of the possibilities. And Seattle fans still whine, moan and complain…

  10. I’m happy to have teams like New England come into the Clink thinking they’re better than us, thinking about their next division game, thinking they’re playing a non-playoff no-name team. Bring it on.

  11. Sorry if there were any typos, I was trying to update the information as I went. And yes, I’m back helping Eric on a weekly basis.

  12. 77 – Like you, I watched replays of most of Wilson’s passes too. And I found myself asking what Matt Flynn might have done on any of those plays that Wilson wasn’t already doing. I’m inclined to think that if our offense is being held back, its being held back by our very average WRs (other than Rice) moreso than by Wilson. Yes, Wilson’s development bodes well for a possible late-season run.

  13. Welcome back, Ryan!

  14. Hawksince77 says:

    I don’t know why anyone even considers benching Wilson in favor of Flynn. The discussion should be considered moot. Wilson has developed nicely, now has far more real-NFL game experience than Flynn, and any change now would simply set the offense back and waste what has so far been gained.

    The decision has been made. Even when Hass and TJack struggled (mightily) PC supported his starting QB. He has even more reason to do so now.

    It’s pointless to argue how Flynn would have done in the past five games, or how he might differ from Wilson in future games. Nobody knows, or ever will. Even if Flynn plays (say Wilson gets hurt) it will be impossible to judge if Flynn does better or worse, for the same reason. Even if they play within the same game, while the comparison would be better, the game situation will be different, so impossible to perfectly judge one way or another.

    So let it go. Flynn will ride the bench (barring injury) until Seattle trades him to a QB-needy team.

  15. Welcome back Walter T. It must be hard to game plan against the hawks D.

  16. Braylon Edwards vs New England Patriots, January 2011:
    I’d like to see some more of this on Sunday.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERyHYF8xlWU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFreOHXYhZ0

  17. Dukeshire says:

    NE has has two 3 and outs all season?! Sweet jesus, that’s incredible.

  18. jchawks08 says:

    Not sure if it’s the delusional homer in me, but I’ve got a lot of confidence in our defense and how they’ll play Sunday. Will they pitch a shutout? Not likely, but I look at guys like Mebane and Clem, Wagner & KJ, the ENTIRE secondary and I just don’t think they’ll let NE beat them. IF the Hawks lose, it will be some other way, but not because the defense let down.

  19. SandpointHawk says:

    RyanD, why are you back with us? Must not be a post season for the M’s. Somehow I forgot to check that out…all kidding aside, welcome home. BTW the blog has changed a bit, but quarterback controversies always bring out the worst in us fans…

  20. jchawks08 says:

    Hasn’t Divish been over at the Huskies Insider that noone but bbnate and me very randomly comment on? Poor Dawgs getting no love. Way too much Hawks drama taking all the spotlight.

  21. tchristensen says:

    Bobby Wagner is going to return 2 interceptions for touchdouwns.

  22. “NE has has two 3 and outs all season?! Sweet jesus, that’s incredible.”

    that’s the same line that stuck out to me too, and the same reaction. that’s unbelievable. so, in at least 3 of their games, they’ve had no 3 and outs. they’re a machine. so many places to go to gain yards.

    Gonna be a real challenge. Thank god it’s a home game.

  23. The12thMan says:

    Great posts on here. Stevos and 77 keep up the good work! Ryan try to stay to a 6 beer max before ‘editing’. Only joking, your contributions are always entertaining.

    I was also thinking ADHD while reading Pete’s comments. In addition, I was imagining him talking so fast that he starts foaming at the mouth. I’m very glad to have him but Petey is a different breed for sure. I think I would get exhausted hanging around him for very long.

  24. bbnate420 says:

    jchawks08, Divish has taken over the M’s blog full time now. Todd Dybas runs the Huskies blog. Still don’t know why no one comments over there. Huskies were bigger than the Hawks when I first got into football.

  25. chrisj122 says:

    Pete Carroll said “dictate” uh-uh-uh-uh (my inner Beavis & Butthead)

  26. chrisj122 says:

    I really don’t want to harp on the whole QB situation any longer. As someone already said it’s pointless and it is because this is the direction Pete has decided to go. It’s not the way I would have went but I’m not the Head Coach or in a position to influence such a decision (obviously) so it is what it is.

    However it’s very hard to ignore the Offense inability to score more than 1TD a game. If our D continues to be this good and we end the season at 7-9, holding teams to 21 or less points, Pete will be on the hot seat.

  27. Like I said in the other thread, I feel like Seattle can hold Brady & Co to around 20-23 pts. If Seattle can score 20 offensive points, I think that’s enough to win. New England seems to have a ball control offense in place right now, but if they need to pin their ears back and score, they can pretty much at will.

    God, would I love to see this defense be able to pin their ears back and try to eat a quarterback or two with a 10-14 pt lead. Taking huge risks and just smashing some of these dudes into the turf. Bloody lips and busted ribs and everything. This is the kind of team to do it. Chancellor hits as hard as most linebackers.

  28. I don’t know why anyone even considers benching Wilson in favor of Flynn. The discussion should be considered moot. Wilson has developed nicely, now has far more real-NFL game experience than Flynn, and any change now would simply set the offense back and waste what has so far been gained.

    Where exactly has Wilson developed nicely? Was it the interceptions last week?

    Flynn, riding the bench in green bay, has seen far more looks from defenses from his QB coaches than Wilson has. He’s learned more from Aaron Rodgers than Wilson ever will.

    The decision has been made. Even when Hass and TJack struggled (mightily) PC supported his starting QB. He has even more reason to do so now.

    When Hasselbeck struggled, everyone blamed the O-Line. As of right now, T-Jack would be a massive upgrade over Wilson. I do not know how Wilson will develop, but as of now, this team would be in a far better position with Tarvaris. Keep in mind, that Tarvaris played last year with a torn pectoral, and while he wasn’t spectacular, his experience and strong arm would have been enough to keep this team ahead in all games. It would be a lot like last years 49ers, IMO.

    It’s pointless to argue how Flynn would have done in the past five games, or how he might differ from Wilson in future games. Nobody knows, or ever will. Even if Flynn plays (say Wilson gets hurt) it will be impossible to judge if Flynn does better or worse, for the same reason. Even if they play within the same game, while the comparison would be better, the game situation will be different, so impossible to perfectly judge one way or another.

    So if Flynn were to step in for 4-5 games, and play lights out football, say averaging 280-320 ypg, 2-3 TDpg, and 0-1 IntPG, that wouldn’t clear up murky waters?

    So let it go. Flynn will ride the bench (barring injury) until Seattle trades him to a QB-needy team.

    I think if Wilson is still struggling midseason, Carroll will need to make a change. This decision is a make or break for Carroll’s head coaching career, IMO. 31st in passing yards makes me think this is a QB needy team.

    I think people here dump on me because of my “pessimism”, but this is legitimately how I (and more than a few talking heads in the media) have to say. It’s not that I don’t want Wilson to do well, I’d love for him to be a top 10 or even 16 quarterback, but I just don’t see it.

    Rodgers himself has said “Flynn will be a top 15 quarterback”, and I think he knows more about the quarterback position and offense than any of the offensive coaches in Seattle.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/09/aaron-rodgers-thinks-matt-flynn-will-be-a-top-15-quarterback/

  29. BTW, I’m saying “top 15″ is a huge upgrade over 31st, not necessarily that Flynn would be elite, but I think he’s a big upgrade.

  30. Hawksince77 says:

    Holy effing Christ, I don’t know why I post here.

  31. MEhawkfan says:

    Because logic is good — keep posting 77.

  32. I was really missing my daily dose of mind-numbing RadeON Anti-Russell Wilson rant. I feel better now. ;)

  33. Hawksince77 says:

    It just kills me that fans from other teams have more respect, and a better understanding, of Seahawk players than several vocal Seahawk fans.

    As for evidence, see the following:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAVpYKA8BNM&feature=player_embedded

    This guy directly compares Cam Newton – an amazing athlete drafted number one overall, and playing in his second NFL season – to Russell Wilson. His judgment? Wilson is the better player RIGHT NOW, and will continue to improve based on his excellent character.

    Shame on ignorant Seahawk fans.

  34. bbnate420 says:

    Will someone please unplug the broken record?

  35. banosser says:

    Did ya’ll know that SF is only 27th in the League in passing offense..??
    Guess they should ditch Smith…

  36. “Will someone please unplug the broken record?”

    funny you say this since BOTH SIDES are a broken record there are 5 pro-Wilson comments before anyone says anything otherwise – then when Radeon posts – a group of people go crazy.

    People see things differently – so learn to respect that – PLEASE. If everyone thought the same then EVERY single NFL team would have the same exact draft board, the same offense, the same defense, the same game plan – they don’t, which is kinda why the NFL is soo fun to watch.

    NE – presents problems for our team that few if any other team in the NFL may provide us. Which is why this game is so compelling. Will NE be able to limit our Defensive subs – if so We are in for a very long day. If we can force our will then it becomes a VERY winnable game.

    Will the new guy on the black (PC) get taught a lesson from one of the best (Bellicheck) or will he step up to the challenge and bring something that they can’t handle. Who will make the best adjustments – which team will execute better.

    all of which is why I love the NFL soo much

  37. RADEon you’re an idiot. Russell Wilson is coming along nicely.

  38. Hawksince77 says:

    xcman, I gotta think you mean “block” and not “black”. Had to read it a few times (and read ‘PC’ as “Pete Carroll” and not “Politically Correct” or “Personal Computer”, although the latter two interpretations made some sense after reading “black” and trying to figure it out) in order to make sense of it.

  39. I do mean BLOCK — Thanks!! DAng I need an edit function!!

    Jmreid8 – bring something useful please

  40. Hawksince77 says:

    And for the record, there was nothing I posted that could be charactarized as a “broken record”. To my knowldege, nobody on this site identified the nature of RW’s six incompletions, nor pointed out his steller accuracy (outside of his completion percentage, which alone doesn’t tell the story).

    What makes this most relevant is how much better this past game was compared to his previous ones. The other thing to note was the lack of any – read that again – ZERO dropped passes (unless we count the second interception, but I have heard it convincingly argued that the proper scoring should have been a catch and fumble). That’s a nice accomplishment by the receivers as a team. Not sure how often that happens in the NFL, that a team catches every ball thrown their way, but it can’t be routine. It seems like every game every team has balls dropped, even easy catches, let alone the more difficult ones.

    Kudos to Seattle WRs/TEs/RBs.

  41. Hawksince77 says:

    And just to add to the comment about catching every pass – RW didn’t make them all easy. The one that Rice pulled in across the middle on the first and 20 play was a great catch, as he had to go to get it and then get clobbered.

    The Lynch pass wasn’t perfect, either, and obviously the pick poorly thrown. As I recall, the rest of the throws were more or less on target, but even so, a 100% catch rate is pretty awesome. What Hasselbeck back in the day would have given for that!

  42. Hawksince77 says:

    Just one more comment for the night: one valid criticism I have heard from several sources is RW’s apparent reluctance to take a chance, especially in the red zone. What has been pointed out (and I agree) is the the better QBs (Favre the master) weren’t afraid to sling the ball around, because they had confidence in themselves and their judgment/skill.

    We have seen very few contested throws by RW in the regular season, unless the game is on the line (like the above mentioned throw to Rice). In the Cards game, at the end, RW made several contested throws into the endzone, all of them defensed or dropped. In the pre-season, RW made several contested throws, several of them for TDs (the one to Edwards in particular). During the pre-season, you were far more likely to see a pass from RW broken up by a nice defensive play, because he threw into tighter windows.

    Not so much in the regular season, and pretty much not at all for the first 3 quarters. And this was something I criticised Flynn for, because in his two starts for GB, and in his pre-season with Seattle, he never threw the ball unless his receiver was very open. He never (not once that I can recall) threw a contested pass. His one interception in the pre-season was due to a judgment issue, not the targeted receiver. He didn’t read the middle LB correctly, and the defender was able to elevate and pick off the pass.

    Wilson is perfectly capable, and willing to throw into tighter windows, but he’s not. The only conclusion I can draw is that he is being coached to play it safe, and/or he isn’t fully confident in his starting role, and won’t do anything to threaten it.

    What do you think?

  43. Hawksince77 says:

    I lied – one more observation relative to WRs catching the ball:

    On the first pass of the game (at least I think it was the first) the ball was actually tipped by the defender just before Rice caught it. The pass didn’t quite clear the defender (it was arcing over his head) and he got just enough of it to turn it into a wobbler at the last second, but Rice still made the catch.

    Pretty cool.

  44. 77 – Wilson is perfectly capable, and willing to throw into tighter windows, but he’s not. The only conclusion I can draw is that he is being coached to play it safe, and/or he isn’t fully confident in his starting role, and won’t do anything to threaten it.

    What do you think?

    Said that recently and was told I was stupid – well the part about being coached not to. so watch your back – oh wait you are part of the “in” crowd right now.

    but I do believe you are on to something!

  45. bird_spit says:

    Hawks77..that catch after tip was pure beauty. Rice proves his # 1 status with that catch alone.

  46. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “I don’t know why anyone even considers benching Wilson in favor of Flynn. The discussion should be considered moot. Wilson has developed nicely, now has far more real-NFL game experience than Flynn, and any change now would simply set the offense back and waste what has so far been gained.”

    1.) Because RW3-and-Out is objectively one of the very worst QBs in the NFL, right down there with such luminaries like Blaine Gabbert and Mark Sanchez.
    2.) The discussion will NEVER be moot as long as this midget continues to lead the worst passing attack in Seattle history while a record-setter rots on the bench.
    3.) Wilson’s “far more real NFL game experience” hasn’t helped him from being terrible and unable to score. Flynn IS BETTER.
    4.) Set the offense back? From WHAT?! We have scored ONLY 6 TOUCHDOWNS ALL SEASON, 2 FROM TURNOVER DRIVES. We have gained NOTHING. Over a quarter of the season and this is still one of the very worst passing offenses we’ve ever had the misfortune of seeing.

  47. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    RADEoN thank you being one of the best commentators on this blog and articulating clearly why Wilson is holding our elite team back and why Flynn should be starting by default. I’m tired of this absurd defense of Seneca Wallace 2

  48. mojjonation says:

    Much the way anytime you plugged a running back into Denver’s offense in the 80’s and 90’s, they gained yards, anyone could throw for a ton of yards and fantasy points with Green Bays offense. They have a system that works with the pieces they have. As much as people want to run off at the mouth about how the tam would be 5-0 and leading the league in passing if Flynn were starting, you…have…no…proof. End of story.

  49. Tell ‘em mojo. It’s all pure speculation until MF gets some playing time. And that’s not going to happen unless we start losing due to RW’s mistakes or he gets seriously injured. Obviously most of us Seahawks fans would not wish that on their starting quarterback. So let’s just sit back and enjoy the ride. Go Hawks! Hope we bring the heat on Brady, CLink = House of Pain.

  50. bbnate420 says:

    The broken record comment was aimed at RADEoN. You can add ACIB to it as well. It’s not that they think RW is so horrible, it’s just that is ALL they ever post about! RADEoN will occasionally post something else. ACIB is a one trick pony, hyperbolically criticizing RW since his return from the purgatory that was the Curry trade. He now has another dead horse to beat. Most people here have issues with some aspect of the team, but they don’t make 95 % of their posts about it. It’s just obsessive and boring.

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