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Morning links: Seahawks looking for some respect

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 27, 2012 at 7:39 am with 40 Comments »
September 27, 2012 7:39 am
Seattle Seahawks' Brandon Mebane, left, closes in on Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, right, in the first half of an NFL football game, Monday, Sept. 24, 2012, in Seattle. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

In my story today, after a controversial, last-second win over the Green Bay Packers on Monday night, the Seattle Seahawks believe their effort against the Packers, particularly on defense, has been overshadowed by a questionable call by replacement officials on a national level.

Seattle dominated on defense, holding Green Bay to 87 yards of total offense in the first half, sacking Aaron Rodgers 8 times and holding him without a touchdown pass for the first time in 20 games.

Through three games, Seattle’s defense is No. 1 in points allowed (13 a game), No. 2 in rushing defense (58.7 yards per game) and No. 4 in total defense (272.3 yards per game).

“Regardless of the outcome of the game, we’re not going to get the respect that we feel like we deserve,” Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman said. “But it doesn’t really matter to us because we keep it in-house. We keep it about us.”

Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes that Seattle’s defensive effort against Green Bay did not go unnoticed by the team’s next opponent – St. Louis. “You look at what they were able to do Monday night … they looked unbeatable, almost,” Rams quarterback Sam Bradford said in a teleconference with Seattle media Wednesday. “They’re so big and physical and then you add (Chris) Clemons with his speed, it’s a tough group to try to block. They’re so multiple in the way they can rush you. They can beat you with power, beat you with speed, they can beat you around the edge with their pressure.”

Clare Farnsworth of writes about Brandon Mebane’s impressive effort against Green Bay – and his sack dance – in Wednesday’s practice report.

Russell Wilson impersonates Pete Carroll in this latest Real Robinson Report.

Barry Wilner of the Associated Press reports that the NFL and the NFL Referees Association agreed on an eight-year agreement late last night, in time for regular officials to work today’s Ravens-Browns game.

The chaos that ensued after Seattle’s win on Monday night served as a catalyst for the league and the NFL Referees Association to get a deal done, writes Mike Freeman of CBS Sports, who believes that last month will go down as one of the ugliest periods in NFL history in recent memory.

Jeff MacGregor of ESPN says that the real reason the real refs are back on the field is about money – reassuring sports books around the world that the NFL was not crooked after a series of questionable calls by replacement officials during the first three weeks of the season.

Even former NBA player Charles Barkley, known to throw down a few dollars in Vegas, is upset over the result on Monday night: “I’m just angry. I love to gamble, I can live with winning and losing, but I don’t ever want to get jobbed like I did [Monday] night. I’m going to give you a quick synopsis. Everybody is going crazy over the catch, but I got screwed on the roughing the passer, I got screwed on the pass interference, I got screwed on the interception and I found out today that they actually have a real official in the replay booth who could’ve overruled that? I got screwed four times and that makes it even worse.”

Chris Brown of Grantland discusses how the evolution of Pittsburgh defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau’s zone blitz concepts has changed modern defense.

Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes that Rams first-round draft choice Michael Brockers could be ready to return from a high-ankle sprain that kept him out for the last month.

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  1. FleaFlicker says:

    Let’s hope that all this hoopla doesn’t keep the team from focusing on Sunday’s game. Sure, it’s the Rams. But this is the NFL, and a road game. Never a “gimme”.

    Maybe we can see RW progress and start to get a little more freedom in the play calls. Would love to see him torch somebody one of these days. Might as well be a division opponent!

  2. Why do they even let Charles Barkley talk? The guy is a complete tool box. Hey Charles, its called gambling for a reason you dumb ass! You should have realized how good our Defense was before you picked the packers on the road…next time do your homework before throwing down your $$.

  3. MEhawkfan says:

    An early road game at that, and yeah, against a division opponent. The Hawks absolutely need this one to be a W.

  4. They had an actual real official – Phil Lockette – who had his hands tied since what they are allowed to review wasn’t going to help GB anyway –

    again – if the roles were exactly reversed the nation wouldn’t care! So I say screw’em

  5. Dukeshire says:

    “Regardless of the outcome of the game, we’re not going to get the respect that we feel like we deserve,”

    Welcome to Seattle, Richard. You against the world, my man!

  6. gonefishin69690 says:

    Charles Jboard1, yeah he’s a complete tool box alright, only missing a couple tools.

  7. lol gonefishing, he’s definitely a few tools short to be a complete tool box haha!

  8. MEhawkfan says:

    It seemed to me the talking heads were all promoting the idea it would take some team wrongfully losing on a blown call to end the official’s lockout. In reality, it seems what it actually took was the betting line getting jacked around to the tune of several hundred C notes.

  9. adamtoth says:

    Two things for sure from that Monday night game:

    There won’t be another mnf game this year as exciting or dramatic or interesting.

    And, pretty sure the NFL network won’t be replaying that one anytime soon.

  10. I’m expecting a tough game against the Rams – they beat a decent Redskins team, and were very close to a win vs Detroit in week 1. This won’t be a walkover game on their home field . . .

  11. chuck_easton says:

    Nope, no respect. Prisco, Florio and others are already picking the Rams to win this Sunday.

  12. MEhawkfan says:

    Well… some things never change. When was the last the the Seahawks got any national respect?

    And yeah, there is no doubt in my mind this is going to be a tough game. Fisher will have his team ready. I hope Carroll will have his players equally focused and ready to match the Rams intensity. A little discipline on the O line would be especially nice.

  13. @ adamtoth, they replayed the game yesterday. Actually, one of the guys on total access did a pretty good job of going frame by frame of the play. He mentioned that Tate had partial possession before Jennings’ feet touched the ground.

    They also threw out an interesting fact. Of 85 hail mary type plays where pass interference (on either side) could have been called, 0 flags were actually thrown.

  14. jerrycurl says:


    Ed Hochuli said “the league felt, actually, that the Super Bowl was well officiated. Now, that doesn’t mean there were no mistakes. There are always mistakes, but it was a well-officiated game.”

    I’m supposed to believe that this guy is got a clue about officiating…

  15. Dukeshire says:

    “It was a tough thing for me,” Leavy said Friday. “I kicked two calls in the fourth quarter, and I impacted the game, and as an official you never want to do that.”

    Let’s put that one to bed already. Good lord.

  16. bird_spit says:

    I just worry the real refs will focus on the “cheating” Seahawks.

  17. The one thing I was thinking when Wilson threw that final pass was that this is going to be another Dave Krieg – Paul Skansi moment. I still remember that game in 1990. Krieg getting sacked 11 times, or so. And we won. The dramatic games are great memories.

  18. djbargelt says:

    Attention: Charles Barkley

    I’d like to see things from your point of view but I can’t seem to get my head that far up my ass.

  19. gvineq, I was looking for a replay of the game. Must have missed it.
    My guide didn’t have it listed. Was it the entire game or the 90min replay format?

  20. So the refs get to work 19 weekends a year and earn about $150,000 ($200,000 in eight years). Not bad for a part-time gig. Surely the NFL could get full-timers for that salary.

  21. Carlsonkid says:

    So , it’s been an interesting last few days for me since Monday’s game ; I had a napsack with my wallet , keys and cell phone in it stolen at the game right from under my seat . Had to call family to come pick me up after the game because my car keys were in the napsack and couldn’t get home . I’ve spent the last few days replacing my drivers license , cell phone , dealing with the bank and changing locks on the doors . It was taken right after the winning TD as I was celebrating with folks sitting near me . Point being , be careful at the stadium during the games guys ; apparently you can’t even high-five a seat neighbor after a win without getting your sh#t jacked ..

    As far as the game goes , I’m honestly just sick of hearing all the whinning by the media about it . Every team in the league has lost a game because of bad officiating , even with the ‘real’ refs , and we here in Seattle can sell you T-shirts about how many times it’s happened to us . Great defensive effort , on to St. Louis …

  22. Sorry about your experience, Carlsonkid. That must have been such a pain. Hope you didn’t have too much cash in your wallet.

    I can’t believe you were getting robbed at the same time the Packers were. (Just kidding. I think Seattle won the game legitimately.)

  23. doubledink says:

    Alan Page committed offsides in the final minutes of the NFC Championship game against the Rams (back in the 70s) when they were trailing and backed up to their goal line. He reached out and slapped the ball during the snap, causing a fumble which was returned for the winning score. He wasn’t called a cheater. It was called a smart veteran move. The penalty would have only cost them a few inches if he got flagged. If not, he creates an opportunity for his team to win.

    That is all that Tate did with the push off. Smart veteran move.

  24. bird_spit says:

    RealRob is probably the best real reporting out there..excellent as always.

  25. Dukeshire says:

    doubledink – That wasn’t a penalty then; it is today. Tate shoving the WR was blatant PI. The fact it wasn’t called makes it “smart”, but let’s not confuse that witht the fact Tate is some type of heady player.

  26. HawkfaninMT says:

    As much as it pains me to say it, I see a lot of Hines Ward in Golden Tate’s play style

  27. I kind of had the feeling that the media frenzy over the controversial win would light a fire under some of Seattle’s defensive players. For most of that game, they dominated that Packers team like I’ve never seen. Since he took Favre’s place, I don’t think I’ve seen Rodgers look that out of sorts, and just off of his game the way he was. That was the real story of the game that most people tend to either ignore or overlook.

    We’ll see what happens Sunday. Big divisional game. I expect we’ll see some hard hitting.

  28. kinger12 says:

    Bird-spit did bring up an interesting point. I hope that we aren’t not now targeted as a cheating team now, and get more than the usual ticky tacky calls going against us.
    I am not so concerned about this being a trap game. If I was a player in that locker room – I am thinking I am pissed that I am not getting the respect around what the full stats show – defensively impressive, special teams were dangerous and our Offence is still a Work In progress but at least we can manage a rushing game that will lull anybody into a coma. I am sure players see this as it is a divisional game that has to be one. Money on that nobody is forgetting that we lost the Cards in that locker room, another loss in our division this early in the season could really hurt us.
    At some point though the Beaver has to take the training wheels off of Wilson. I am sure the thought process is they are protecting him in some weird way. But if the goal is that we want an effective running game we need to have a passing game thats got some life in it. Run Run Pass is as bad as Holmy’s 3rd and Long play – the ‘delightful’ FB draw. Sure it works once in 10 but that’s not a great average for moving the ball.

  29. kinger12 says:

    dang it ONE = WON

  30. doubledink says:

    What wasn’t a penalty back then? Offsides? Slapping the ball prior to the snap? Please clarify.

    Sure Tate committed blatant PI. The fact is he was outnumbered and his chances were very slim. He gave himself a chance and got away with it. What did he have to lose? Jennings was in the air already.

  31. freedom_X says:

    Tate’s shove may not have been heady, but Tate was competing. If he hadn’t been fighting for position, that’s a clean pick, game over, another disappointing loss.

  32. doubledink says:


    with the speed of things it was most likely just instinctive response.

    Ol’ Alan Page had an entire huddle to weigh his choice.

  33. sluggo42 says:

    I am positive the boys play with a fire in their bellies. The entire nation calling them cheaters has me angry, and if I was a player, I would be doing some serious head knocking come Sunday.

    Its a win win. We get the “W”, and we get more incentive to kick-ass.
    And we will. I am so sure of it…

  34. Give me a break. Pushing a dude in the back with the ball in the air is STUPID, and its CHEATING! It is not smart, not heady, and shows poor sportsmanship. Tate just reminded everyone why he’s taken so long to accomplish much in the NFL, and why he earned the nickname TaterHead.

    I really like Tate, but he pisses me off too. Pushing the dude was stupid and wrong–what if Tate caught the ball and they called PI?! GAME OVER! He’s freaking lucky!

    doubledink–Yep, instinctive response, but one that needs to be coached out of him.

  35. In professional sports, guys like Sam Shields are not above trying to get in close so they can let their knees become limp noodles and look like they’ve been thrown. It may have not been the case here, but lets not start pointless personal attacks on our up-and-coming players like Golden Tate. Battling for balls is exactly what all our players should be doing on every play. Sometimes they might make mistakes but let it not be for lack of effort. Golden is doing his job, whiners who are falling for this ‘Hawks didn’t deserve to beat football royalty that way crap are welcome to eat their cheesehead urinal hats.

  36. SharkHawk says:

    Lance Armstrong is a cheater. Golden Tate pushed a guy. There’s a big difference.

  37. bird_spit says:

    Sluggo..totally agree..I’m pissed and I’m not one of them… This may be the chip on the shoulder all year. This D will have to knock heads all year to get respected.

  38. Dukeshire says:

    doubledink – Slapping the ball from the center’s hands. Shoving a defender in the back while the ball is in the air always has been. I’m not saying Tate shouldn’t have done it. He got away with it.

  39. Stats presented by a national guy today – trying to find it but

    87 hail mary passes going back in NFL history – NOT ONE PI CALL – if you watch ANY Hail mary pass – there is pushing shoving bumping WHO CARES!

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