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Morning links: Wilson’s uncommon vision

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 20, 2012 at 8:43 am with 33 Comments »
September 20, 2012 8:45 am
Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson rolls out to look for an open reciever against the Dallas Cowboys in the second half of an NFL football game, Sunday, Sept. 16, 2012, in Seattle. (AP Photo/John Froschauer)

John McGrath of The News Tribune delves into Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson’s ads with Levi’s, and how in a short amount of time he’s emerged nationally as one of the most recognizable players on the team.

McGrath: Wilson has been vaunted for his quickness. How quick is the Seahawks rookie? About nine years quicker than pro-football icon Jim Brown. He broke into the league in 1957, set a ton of rushing records with the Cleveland Browns, and established himself as one of the greatest athletes in American history. Brown didn’t score his first TV endorsement deal until his final season of 1965.

A rookie who stars in a national ad campaign sets himself up to take some guff from the veterans in the locker room. Not Wilson. He’s mock-proof.

In my story today, the NFC West has gone from worst to first, starting the year 6-2 for the first time since the league’s realignment in 2002.

Jerry Brewer of the Seattle Times writes that Pete Carroll’s Seahawks have morphed into the dirtbags Jim Mora attempted to create when he was the head coach for Seattle.

Former Seahawks linebacker Dave Wyman writing for 710 ESPN Seattle says that Golden Tate was fined for playing football. I couldn’t agree more. Wyman: “Let me make my position on this very clear: I don’t care if that had been a Cowboys receiver hitting a Seahawks linebacker. I don’t care what (Former NFL official Mike Pereira, who now works for Fox Sports) Pereira or Goodell think a penalty is. I care about the integrity and the popularity of this game. Big hits are what this league was built on. If you take that side of the equation out of the mix, you’re changing this game in such a fundamental way that it will eventually erode its popularity in the long run.
“These guys signed on for this. Sean Lee is a big boy. He has willingly put himself in harm’s way by stepping on the field and gets paid handsomely to do so. He would’ve loved to put that same hit on Wilson and you can bet that was on his mind as he pursued him to the sidelines.”

Brock Huard of 710 ESPN Seattle breaks down Marshawn Lynch’s 36-yard run.

Mike Silver of Yahoo Sports ranks the Seahawks No. 12 in his power rankings.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that Marshawn Lynch’s second-half effort against the Cowboys is yet another example of Seattle’s blocking getting better as the game goes on.

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  1. FleaFlicker says:

    Only about 105 hours until kickoff…really looking forward to this next game!

  2. NWPoseidon says:

    Cardinals at #5. That’s interesting.

  3. chuck_easton says:

    Cardinals have to be that high. They are one of only five 2-0 teams in the NFL right now. And they beat an East Coast media darling in their own house.

    It’s also why I don’t have a problem with how high SF is being ranked. 2-0 and beat the ‘untouchable’ Packers in the sacred Lambaugh field.

    12 to 18 is about right for Seattle right now. We need a few more wins over East Coast teams and we need to get a win on the road before we even approach the top 10.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    I too agree with Wyman, here. Moreover, the further Mike Pereira gets away from the the game and immerses himself into “broadcasting”, the more and more he’s becoming a shill for the league. I loved the idea of a ref in the booth to clarify during games. I like him specifically, at first. But this is simply another example of Pereira pandering without outside the context of the rules. At least that’s how I see it.

  5. The highlight film in Brock’s story shows Moffit making impressive key blocks in both the 36 yard run and the td run.

  6. PugetHawk says:

    Gotta say, I like Mrs. Wilson’s Levi’s more than I like his. Very cool commercial.

  7. HeinieHunter says:

    I knew they would fine Tate as you are not encouraged to “lay the wood” to anybody anymore. First it was just QBs, then WR’s, now anyone who’s not looking? The plus is that our other WR’s will recognize that Tate reset the standard for blocking and will be looking to do the same. This kind of hitting thrives upon itself.

  8. bbnate420 says:

    I think the 21k fine is a bit of a joke when put into context of the 7k fine for the punk Cole. This is about perception and really nothing more IMO. The league has a huge liability issue going forward and need to look tough on player safety, i.e. see bounty scandal. I thought the hit was legal. He put his face/shoulder into Lee’s chest.

    People here may want to brace for the end of hits like this. I personally enjoy big hits, but it’s not the only thing I like about the game. I would still watch if hits like these were a thing of the past. If brain-imaging technology advances faster than the ability to repair nervous tissue, which is very conceivable, then this game could be in trouble or at least look vastly different in the future. It is not possible to do a scientific study at this time on the difference between the brains of football players and that of the general population, because you have to wait until the person is dead to examine their brain and there are biasing issues with players donating their brains for study. Once it is possible to reliably detect traumatic encephalopathy with a brain scan, this will not be the case. A large number of football players would be able to be compared to the general population. This could have a devastating effect on the NFL. This is true even if we are willing to watch people give themselves brain damage and grown men are willing to take the chance. If mothers start stopping their boys from playing football in the first place, it eventually would snuff the NFL out. Hopefully, the ability to regenerate nervous tissue is realized before this happens.

  9. HeinieHunter says:

    Only 5 undefeated teams after 2 freaking games…..who’d a thunk it? It’s gonna be a wild year!

  10. Carlsonkid says:

    Stop the presses , Hell has frozen over ; Florio over at PFT picks the Hawks to beat the Packers by one point Monday !

  11. bbnate420 says:

    P.S. I mean CNS tissue, if anyone was going to correct me.

    People here realize that if the league got a whiff of Mr. Allen or anyone else in the Hawks organization paying Tate’s fine that would mean a significant penalty for the Hawks, right?

  12. Carlsonkid says:

    Brewer is right ; we’re finally dirtbags : )

    Finally the rest of the league thinks we’re a hard-nosed football team instead of a bunch of latte-sipping creampuffs . That hasn’t happened since Ken Easley roamed the Dome or ‘Tez played rag-doll with other teams o-lines . Loving that !

    They should have a Top Pot donut sale to help out with Tate’s fine ..

  13. Duke, I’ve had the opposite impression of Pereira…he seems to me to be a little more free in his commentary than if he were on the league’s payroll, sort of enjoying that he can speak his mind. In this case, my recollection is that his opinion was an interpretation of the rule as written, as a ref should have, rather than an opinion on game physicality or rule appropriateness.

    I think Mr. Wyman tends to be a bit myopic on game physicality issues; I like a physical game and liked the block, but sometimes I don’t think he gives enough weight to the NFL being in a pickle with player lawsuits. Goodell is trying to navigate a pretty rough set of rapids.

  14. bbnate420 says:

    Someone made the comment that Tate was being punished for the laws of physics, because it was actually Lee’s head that snapped forward and hit the top of Tate’s helmet. This is absolutely true. Without taking a position on whether or not hits like this are legal or should be allowed, a hit like this is going to be as damaging to the brain as any helmet to helmet hit! It’s your brain rattling around against the inside of your skull that causes the brain damage, not someone elses’ head or helmet hitting your head. The helmet to helmet hit is more likely to cause your head to violently whip into a different direction, and that is why they are more dangerous than most other hits. A hit like this where someone is violently redirected at full speed is going to have the same effect of whipping your head around, i.e. a high speed car accident.

  15. hawkfan777 says:

    That silver article is a bit of joke based on just two weeks. However, how interesting would it be if the Hawks beat the #4 Packers this week and get moved to the #4 position. Three NFC West teams in the top 5? Who would have thought?

  16. freedom_X says:

    I don’t know if Pereira is shilling for the league. He seems pretty critical of the replacement refs. Not what a NFL shill would be saying.

    I agree that it’s ridiculous that Cole would only get $7,000 and Tate $21,000, unless they raised the fine schedule for the 2012 season.

  17. JMSeaTown says:

    It’s exactly what Pete did at USC… Find the fastest, biggest, most ghetto players in the country and recruit… Whether it was a little more than just a full ride, Pete don’t care. It’s pretty clear that all he wants is to win. Crazy that it’s only takin this long to happen. Love it.

    On a side note, I’m benching Greg Jennings on my fantasy team. Go hawks

  18. The hit Tate completed was close to being legal…very close. One thing for certain, it was obvious, it changed the entire demension of the game. The excitement level went out of this world. 21K for that…I am sure Tate will not mind…but let’s be serious…I personally think PC or Paul Allen will slip Tate a check for 21K to pay for the boost in confidence by the Seahawks. Tate is soon to become an honorary member of the “Legion of Doom” Just saying!

  19. Sparky12 says:

    He who cries the loudest! Jerry Jones and his Cowpies cried like little girls and got the fine. His boys got their asses handed to them and that was all he had to save face.

    Love Dave Wyman’s comment. Right on the money. Are gonna have flag football here?

  20. If the league wants to stop big hits take the helmets and pads away, go back to old school.
    The pads and helmets allow the bigger hits and both have advanced a lot since the beginning leather setups.
    Big hits make the crowd go crazy and OHHHH and AHHHH
    There needs to be something with the fines attached to injuries for cheap shots, maybe the new CBA addresses this vs last years bs cheap shot that knocked our guy out with an injury.
    Still believe the fines are more of a peon team or person did it to a “Favored” Team or individual

  21. bbnate420 says:

    JMSeaTown, you can just go ahead and say the blackest players. No need to use the euphemism “most ghetto”. ;-)

  22. chuck_easton says:


    There are actually fewer serious injuries in Rugby, which is essentially a version of football played in shorts and muscle shirts.

    So you are on to something. Give a kid a padded glove and they will go around hitting everything because it doesn’t hurt their hand. Take the glove away and watch how fast they stop hitting hard objects with their fists.

  23. chuck_easton says:


    You can be ghetto and still be some other race than black! Just ask Eminem.

  24. bird_spit says:

    Speaking of having their asses handed to them..

  25. orbeavhawk says:

    Finally we ARE “Dirtbags” and I’m lovin’ it, arn’t you?


  26. bbnate420 says:

    Chuck, I was somewhat joking. That said, ghetto or urban can be code for black. Better to stick to disparaging white trash. No one sticks up for them. :-)

    Taking away the helmets or at least the face masks would undoubtedly lead to less violent hitting IMO. It might not cut down on the hits like Tate’s so much, but it would cut down on players leading with their heads. Especially with the vanity and celebrity of modern players. Wouldn’t want to mess up those pretty mugs. An analogous example would be MMA versus boxing. People used to think, some still do, that MMA was more barbaric and dangerous than boxing. Yet, no one has died in an MMA ring. Can’t say the same for a boxing ring. They used smaller gloves in MMA, just enough to help protect you from breaking your hands really, and they fight on the ground a lot of the time. It’s a sport like boxing, where you take sustained blows to the head where you’re going to get the brain damage.

  27. sherminator says:

    The big thing that makes rugby safer is that you are not allowed to play the man – you must play the ball. What this means is that you can not set up for a big hit when a player touches the ball, you must instead go for the ball itself. And the purpose of a tackle is to control the ball, not necessarily to put the player on the ground. Many times, you want the player with the ball to be stood up so your teammates can get to him and strip him. Also, blocking of any kind is penalized. But I agree, take away the helmet and shoulder pads, and football would probably get safer. I took a knee to the head during a rugby game by taking down a big goon at the knees – it gave me a concussion and I never did it again.

  28. sluggo42 says:

    Why does everybody always want to twist something into a racial card…

  29. bbnate420 says:

    Relax, sluggo. I didn’t call anyone a racist. You don’t have to twist very hard to say that ghetto has racial connotations. I care about what people mean, not necessarily what they say. That’s why I didn’t say that it was definitely racist. I mostly was pointing out that it can have certain connotations that you might not want attached to your message. I wouldn’t use it personally, but I am not the word police. Just my opinion. His whole post seemed pretty negative and ill-informed to me. I guess it’s impossible that his comment had racial connotations?

  30. sluggo42 says:

    Well sure it’s possible, but it’s also possible that he just meant big stupid people, or perhaps brown skinned people. But he didn’t specify. Someone else did.

    For the record, I don’t really care. But it stuck out to me, and probably everyone else that read it. Take it as you wish, I have no beef with you…

  31. bbnate420 says:

    I get it, sluggo. I have no beef with you either. Just a discussion. BTW, I am classified as “white” if that makes a difference. I’m not trying to lightly throw around the term racist, in fact I have yet to use it. I would posit that it’s not as likely that he meant “big stupid people” as that he meant “brown skinned people”. He might have meant neither. That’s why I didn’t make a definitive statement about it. I was mostly trying to give him the opportunity to clarify his statement. Words have meanings. Most of the time they have many meanings. I was just giving the opportunity for him to clarify his meaning. I am not trying to just play “gotcha” and call someone a racist for no reason. Even if he, or anyone else, wanted to espouse a racist view, I wouldn’t try to get them silenced. I always think it’s best to debate and expose prejudices. Not that I am saying he was expressing prejudice. I don’t know!

  32. bbnate420 says:

    The Kraken says, “Don’t mess with natedogg!”

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