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Confirmed: Golden Tate fined for hit against Cowboys LB

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 19, 2012 at 2:30 pm with 82 Comments »
September 19, 2012 4:03 pm
Seattle receiver Golden Tate takes out Dallas linebacker Sean Lee. (Max Faulkner/Fort Worth Star-Telegram)

First reported by Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, Seattle Seahawks receiver Golden Tate has been fined by the league for his blindside hit on Dallas linebacker Sean Lee.

The league typically does not announce fines until Friday, but players are usually notified of the fines on Wednesday.

UPDATE: The team confirmed the report.

According to the report, Tate was notified today. Under the league’s new CBA, a fine for first-time offenders is $21,000.

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  1. Bush league.

  2. SandpointHawk says:

    Bull…

  3. DanielleMND says:

    So, a bigger fine than using a martial arts move after the whistle to end a player’s season. Uh huh.

  4. torinaga says:

    I bet Jerry Jones called that favor in personally.

  5. Wow, such absolute BS!

    GT should appeal this fine, it was not a blindside block, Lee was simply not watching for any blockers. He was not protecting himself during the play. The angle of Lee’s pursuit of Wilson precluded him looking for blockers which he had a duty to do if he didn’t want to get blocked. While he may have been blind to the block coming it was not a blindside block.

    Slowly in the name of ‘player safety’, read as: ‘league covering it’s rear end’ anything of a violent nature is being removed from the game. Soon this contact sport will be reduced to touch football and contact will not be allowed.

  6. bird_spit says:

    That seems nuts..I have seen that hit now from several angles…if that is not legal, then why are they playing the game. Flag football is the future..be ready.

  7. Thats alot of donuts!

  8. thursday says:

    This is so out of line. As mentioned above, it’s not a blindside, it’s Lee’s fault he wasn’t looking for blockers. What was Tate supposed to do, be all: “Hey I’m about to block you look out!”

    I’ve been watching this sport for over 20 years and this would have been a highlight hit, not a fineable one. Totally mad here.

  9. sluggo42 says:

    I’m sure that he will find an envelope under his pillow tonite… no problem

  10. jerrycurl says:

    Eric,
    I’m wondering about the hit that Sidney Rice took in the 3rd quarter. I haven’t heard anything mentioned about it. Wasn’t that the definition of a hit on a defenseless receiver. He’s diving for the ball and Spencer targets his head. He looked woozy when Spencer picks him up, and I don’t remember seeing him again(although I might be wrong). That seemed more a questionable hit than what Tate got fined for.

  11. sluggo42 says:

    This game pulled Tates head out from everyones rear end and placed himself onto everyones favorite Hawk, or amongst their fav’s. It was totally great.

  12. This whole “blindside” crap that the league is trying to stand on is just pure garbage. Are they to tell us that a defender is allowed to just pursue at top speed, unabated towards an offensive player without having to concern himself with a blocker. Lee took his attention off of Tate, whom he had in coverage before Wilson took off out of the pocket. If you watch the video footage you can clearly see that Tate is right there in Lee’s hip pocket, measuring him up before unloading. Lee’s fault. His negligence got him posterized.

    No defensive player should be awarded the luxury of “defenseless” when he willingly takes his attention off of an engaged opponent to pursue the ball from a different angle. What Lee probably thought is that there was no way in hell that he was going to get plowed like that by a 5’10 WR. I bet Lee’s never been hit that hard in his life.

    What’s even funnier to me, is that if Tate makes his hit on Lee more center cut, and goes through his torso instead of his chest, then Lee is quite possibly not playing this weekend due to cracked or broken ribs.

  13. Sando has outlined the basis for it being illegal. It is a helmut envolvement issue.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/75269/four-thoughts-on-golden-tates-21k-fine

    Frankly had Tate got hurt on the play most of you would understand why they are trying to limit this. The head injury tort issue is a dark cloud on the future of the NFL.

  14. Like Willie said, “Mamas don’t let your Cowboys grow up to be Babies”…or somethin like that….

  15. SoCalPunk62 says:

    Disgusting.
    The league is trying to gve the illusion of player protection, meanwhile paying substandard replacement officials who actually make the game more dangerous. Monday morning officiating.

  16. chrisj122 says:

    What a bunch of B.S.!

    Why don’t they just change the rules “A blocker must establish eye contact with the player they are about to block”

    Tate hit him straight on, no helmet to helmet contact. WTF!!!
    Is it Tate’s fault this guy was only focused on the QB? Was he supposed to text him first to let him know he was about to get the F@#CK knocked out?

  17. poetic_mexican says:

    well that’s nice. Player fined for a legal hit. That’s some B.S. right there.

  18. thursday says:

    The problem I have with Sando’s article is that it’s still calling it a blindside hit. That’s ridiculous. He hit him in the front and Lee should have been looking for blockers. So what now can defensive players just zero in on the ball carrier with no responsibility to look around them for blockers and no one can engage them? What kind of nonsense is that?

    This is a bad precedent.

  19. @woof

    the helmet contact in that hit was minimal. We are talking the fine edge here. Impact was made through Lee’s upper chest. Yes, the back of Tate’s helmet coincidentally tapped the bottom of Lee’s facemask. Had more of Tate’s helmet been used to deliver the blow, Lee would have a concussion.

    Once again, Lee got off easy. Only thing really hurt was his pride. You get merc’d like that by a WR, when you’re an LB? Yeah, that is embarrassing. Could have been worse. By the letter of the rule, Lee could have gotten it worse if Tate when lower. I say Lee has a broken rib or two right now if Tate lowers his pads by about 3 – 4″ before explosion.

    Or, he could have just chopped Lee’s ass, potentially ending his season with something like a high ankle, or ligament tear in one of his knees.

    Yeah, all in the name of “protecting the players”. What a joke.

  20. GooseRocks says:

    The psychological impact on opponents, and for national media, will outweigh the fine. Another identity example that our team is physical, and will lay the lumber.

  21. this is pathetic and bullshit. okung gets judo’d and has an ended season, and (i think it was) trent cole gets off without much of anything. tate cleans sean lees clock, and gets a fine. I swear to christ they’re gonna be wearing flags soon… (and I’ve been mocked on here for saying that before)

  22. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    guys calm down and look at the picture at the top of this page. tate’s helmit is under his face mask it was helmit to jaw. go back and watch it again tate lifts as he makes contact comming up into the head.

    hey i am a homer too but this is legit if it’s because of helmit to helmit. if he had stayed in the chest it’s a legal hit.

  23. New NFL Rule: In the future, all blockers must remove their head from their shoulders before executing a block.

    Anyone remember that kids song that goes “the hip bones connected to the thigh bone”? Tate’s head made contact because it sits on top of his shoulders. Also, the contact in the picture is a result of physics, nothing else. When Tate placed his shoulder and head into Lee’s numbers, Lee’s head snapped forward and made contact with Tate’s helmet.

    Tate should, and will appeal this fine and if cooler heads prevail, it will certainly be reduced or lifted. If not, there clearly are other factors involved than the NFL Rulebook.

  24. Hammajamma says:

    I want to see some airbag technology brought to the game. Then I want to see a player pool for actually blowing a guy up.

  25. FairbanksDoug says:

    Based on the pic, definitely was not a blindside hit. The helmet to jaw was secondary, initially the hit was to the chest or upper torso. Looks more like after impact Lee’s chin and head came down to meet Tate’s . Tate left shoulder looks to be more involved then what they are accounting for.
    Anyway I wouldn’t mind knowing where to deposit money that would be stuffed in his pillow. Stuffing the pillow after considered hit found to be clean in my doesn’t constitute a bounty system does it?

  26. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    benbu. watch it again i played that was a hit i did may times. as you make contact you bring your shoulders up put the guy on his head. it was a text book slam beautiful actually for a receiver. let’s face it tate was looking to send a message with that hit. great thing is linebackers safeties will now be looking for that hit.

  27. kinger12 says:

    Even Lee said after the hit that it was not helmet to helmet. He got hit in the chest with a combo of helmet and shoulder and i would argue that its damn hard to not lead with a helmet even with the monster shoulder pads. Regardless thats a clean hit!
    Tate you are still a Maple Bar but you have moved up in the 12th mans favorite player list!
    Agree with an early commenter that Okungs attacker got off lite in comparison.

  28. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    kinger common man seriously look at the pic his helmit is in his jaw the pic doesnt lie. hell i bet lee did’nt know his name after that hit. i think it was a good hit but it was helmit on facemask and tate did lift and press at the end of the hit, watch the tape as i said it was a beautiful hit. i don’t think he was defensless i don’t think it was a blind side hit his helmit hit front shoulder. my problem with this is that other than helmit contact it was perfect i don’t think he should have been fined but i can see why they did fine him.

  29. VNHLNFAN says:

    Best de-cleater i seen in long time…oh wait didn’t Leon knock someone out in pre-season on a play like that?

  30. Why don’t they fine Jerry Jones for interference with league discipline?

    From now on, all defenders must run while looking the opposite way, if they get blocked, it will result in a penalty. In that position they will receive special protections.

  31. I love it when posters talk about how “Oh, yeah. That’s the way I used to do it back in the day when I played”. Meh. Nobody cares.

  32. @VN

    Leon got Eric Berry real good on a cut-block to be sure. It was nasty, but not quite the lasting impression Tate’s hit on Lee has left. I’ve never seen a WR son a LB like that. Awhile back, Hines Ward broke the jaw of Keith Rivers, but that was more of a helmet to helmet, ear-hole shot.

  33. So we’ve got a new DB on the 53 man roster. Danny Gorrer. Why is it that no one in local media right now has any info to relate on him? Like his role with us, what he brings to the table?

  34. NYHawkFan says:

    Be honest, if it was Bobby Wagner that got leveled by a Dallas Cowboy on that play, you’d all be cheering. It could have gone either way, and unfortunately it went against Tate. I still think the long-term benefits of the play will pay higher dividends than the short-term pain of a fine. It pumped the team up, it established Tate as being one tough son-of-a-gun, and word will spread that you’d better watch out, because Seattle will rock you.

  35. Dukeshire says:

    I know I’m biased, but even after watching this several dozen times, I cannot find what’s wrong with it. Tate was in front of Lee so no blindside, put his shoulder and face into his chest so no helmet to helmet, and Lee doesn’t qualify under any of the criteria for a defenseless player. This was clean, hard nosed football as I see it. Keep it up, Golden. If I have to, I’ll chip in for the fines.

  36. They should get the best pic of the block, make it into a little poster and sell it for $5 a pop on seahawks.com….guaranteed to net $21k –

  37. GeorgiaRay says:

    helmEt….helmEt….

  38. JSRORE61 says:

    BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. GeorgiaRay says:

    Fine sucks, but wasn’t necessarily undeserved….Tater’s a big boy and can handle the dough(or his benefactors)…sure did put a stamp on the physical style of play the Seahawks now tout……

  40. JSRORE61 says:

    Maybe the NFL should start a FLAG football league!!!!!

    Seahawks 24 GB 14

  41. Wouldn’t it be something to see Tate jack-up Pat Willis or Navarro Bowman like that. LOL. Let him get fined. If he is willing to lay it out there on the line like that (this is a WR we are talking here), then I say have some guys on the team put together a pool to bail him out. How many WR’s in this league are willing or even able to take on an oncoming LB like that?

    You know that’s why Lee took his focus off of Tate. He figured him as irrelevant in the picture frame, because in Lee’s world he sees that a lot – WR’s by and large want nothing to do with manning up on an LB.

    What I am worried about is Tate may have set a new standard among WR’s. WR’s around the league are going to see this and be like “Yeah, I can do that!”

  42. Maybe he should have waited until after the whistle and actually hurt the player, then maybe he’d be like Trent Cole and get off easy.

  43. bird_spit says:

    Funny thing is, this might not be the best play by Tate against the Cowgirls. That catch he made to set up marshawns TD is probably his best play of the day. This block is just so unexpected though..and hopefully he has a chance to do it again.

  44. SpellStitchedHawk says:

    Theme song and video of relevance for the Seahawks. Tate, this one’s for you. Go to 3:15 for some Seahawk love.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKksdy4ClUk&feature=related

    Shouldn’t someone be setting up a slobber knocker fund to help pay for Tate and Kam? I’d contribute, quite a lot. I spend $400+ to see each home game, and that hit made my day. I can’t wait to see who from Green Bay gets Jacked Up!

  45. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I’m wondering why Sean Lee wasn’t fined for not wearing knee and thigh pads? The league talks about player safety and then you always see guys not wearing pads. It should be part of the uniform along with mouth guards and it should be mandatory. Knee pads don’t protect from acl injuries, but do reduce bone bruises and lacerations. I wonder if Mr. Okung was wearing any pads when he suffered that bone bruise on his knee? For all the money these guys make, it seems the coaching staff would stay after that and make them wear the proper gear. Sorry, side rant. Back to you’re regularly scheduled program.

  46. GeorgiaHawk says:

    It’s all Wilsons fault! His teammates are so sold on him that they are laying it out on the line for him whenever he runs. First Washington, now Tate.
    Speaking of Tate I saw some Ward in him early on, and now he is looking more like Ward. If he comes anything close to what Ward has done in the NFL, then Tate could be something special.

  47. WiscCory says:

    Some hits are worth the $. I’m thinking this is one of them.

    Bet his teammate buddies pitch in and cover the tab on this one.

    Like Carroll said, I’m glad Lee got up and all was good. But, a hit like that can change the demeanor of a game. So, worth the $21k.

    BTW, Did I mention last week that I sat Romo and Murray, and started the Hawks D. :)

  48. WiscCory says:

    Sekolah – Bowman is a badas$ isn’t he? Niners sure look tough. Beast vs. those linebackers is gonna be interesting to watch.

  49. DanielleMND says:

    “tate’s helmit is under his face mask it was helmit to jaw. go back and watch it again tate lifts as he makes contact comming up into the head.”

    In the video, it looked like the impact caused Lee’s head to move forward. So Tate got fined for the laws of physics.

  50. GeorgiaHawk says:

    If anyone is to be fined, Lee should be the one for simply embarrassing all other linebackers in the NFL. Do you think Ray Lewis is embarrassed for his fellow linebackers with this?
    “Hi I’m Sean Lee ( the tough Linebacker), and I just got put on my Ass by a WR”.
    He should be embarrassed to go home to his family. And Jerry Jone’s should be embarrassed to stick up for him.

    Bottom line- Soft Cowboys.

  51. Called it and nobody believed me – knew this would come – don’t agree with it but yes.

  52. Perhaps there ought to be a Top Pot Top Shot donation drive. Special maple bars for donators.

  53. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Where is Pabs and BobbyK? Did they go off somewhere to continue their debate on Jackson/Hasselbeck?

  54. GeorgiaHawk says:

    A Skins fan, a Cowboys fan, a Giants fan and an Eagles fan were all mountain climbing together one day. As they were climbing up the mountain, they were jawing back and forth with each other over whose team was the best. When they finally reach the top of the mountain, all four are standing around when the Giants fan inexplicably says “This one is for the Giants” and jumps off the mountain. The Eagles fan, not wanting to be out done, says this one is for the Eagles,” and jumps off the mountain. The Redskins fan then says “This one is for everybody” and pushes the Cowboys fan of the cliff.

  55. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Q: Four Dallas Cowboys in a car, who’s driving?

    A: The police.

  56. @Georgia

    You know, I am not at all about to say that the impact of Wilson as this team’s current leader at QB is not a factor in some of these peel back blocks we’re seeing. He has that sort of effect on people from what I’ve read, and his college coach at Wisconsin predicted as much that something of this nature would happen.

    I definitely feel the respect his teammates have for him. He is a tireless, studious worker, and a natural leader. I know it’s extremely early, but he is perhaps the most amazing rookie player I have seen in a Seahawks uniform.

  57. @WiscCory

    Yeah. Almost feels unfair that they’ve got what arguably amount to the two best ILB’s in the business. But hey, I’ve been hearing for awhile about how good Sean Lee is, and have even heard him mentioned as “the best in the league” by more than one expert, and well, Tate made him look quite mortal.

    I really hate the 9′ers; everything about them, basically. Hate their coach, their fans, their players. The problem is they’ve finally put a real looking team together, with some scary good players, with an identity that is basically carbon copy to ours. Every time we play them it’s going to be who can out-tough who.

  58. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Agree Sekolah. I thought Baldwin was amazing as a rookie last year. Now we have Wilson this year. I can’t wait to see how the Wilson/Baldwin connection will develope moving forward.

    Q: What does a Wisconsin tornado have in common with a Cheesehead going through a divorce?
    A: In both cases someone’s losing a trailer.

  59. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Q: What do you call a Packer fan who can run faster than her brothers?
    A: A virgin

  60. If we start hitting more Homeruns in the first 3 rounds then SF will become VERY worried!!

  61. Dukeshire says:

    “In the video, it looked like the impact caused Lee’s head to move forward. So Tate got fined for the laws of physics.” lol

    Love this comment.

  62. Thats funny GAHawk- :-D

  63. Georgia – It’s not as much fun around here anymore with respect to some of the bickering that goes on, even though the on-field product has given us so much more reason for optimism…

  64. NYHawkFan says:

    A lot of folks praise the 49ers for being so good. They forget why, however. How many years did they get picks in the first round because they sucked? They’ve had first round picks every year since 1997! In both 2007 & 2010, SF had two first round picks. They should be good by now.

    Here’s just a few…
    2012 A. Jenkins
    2011 Aldon Smith
    2010 Anthony Davis
    2009 Michael Crabtree
    2008 Kentwan Balmer
    2007 Patrick Willis
    2006 Vernon Davis
    2005 Alex Smith

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=4500&type=roundbyteam

  65. @ hawkfaninoklahoma that picture at the top is half way through the hit when Lee’s head was still going forward while his body was going back.

    The hit was not helmet to chin. I can’t post pictures but if you google image search “tate hit on lee” you will see a shot of the start of the hit. For me it was on the 4th row.

    Tate’s shoulders are clearly in the numbers area, his feet are on the ground and if you go back further you will see where Tate had to run forward to put himself in front of Lee (who was covering Tate on the play).

  66. montanamike2 says:

    I hope they appeal that fine.

  67. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    @gvineq lmao the rule does’nt say the the helmit to helmit has to start that way it says once he is deamed defenseless there can be no contact to the head or neck. that can mean hitting the head or neck with a sholder pad. now my problem with this is i don’t think he was defenseless i think he was a dumbass for not being aware of the players around him.

  68. NYHawkFan says:

    If the Hawks appeal it, I don’t expect it to be successful. Why? From a practical point, the League is greedy and squeezes every nickel it can out of teams and fans alike. Secondly, the league has received a lot of complaints about the replacement officials not throwing enough flags, not keeping the games in order, etc. (just listen to the comments on this blog). Now they can point to Tate’s case as an example of being concerned about player safety. Therefore, they won’t reverse their decision.

  69. royboy361 says:

    He should be able to get that out of his change jar on his dresser.

  70. sluggo42 says:

    Just saw the hit on NFL am, and they’re saying that the fines will reduce these hits. But they also said the players would rather get hit in the head like he did, and that he was glad he didn’t take his knees out and ruin his career…

  71. Fine this, rule that, whatever!

    There is a huge football game to be played on Monday night.

    Lets focus on that.

    I say Packers can’t run on us (less than 50 yards rushing), we run on the Packers all game long (more than 125 yards rushing), Seattle ends up with a huge time of possession advantage and beats Green Bay 21-10.

  72. NYHawkFan says:

    Actually, I always disliked Hines Ward for the blind-side hits he used to enjoy putting on opposing players. He always had a big, goofy smile on his face after he cold-cocked some unsuspecting player and took him out of the game. Dirty player. No, I’m not saying that Tate is in the same class. Not even close.

  73. mojjonation says:

    Hines Ward had a big SEG on whether he gave a hit or got one. If they checked him the way they checked Tate, Ward would probably have been fined somewhere in the neighborhood of $500k for his career. Seems that every game he got a shot on someone.

    It can’t be a blindside if the helmet winds up in front of the player. Crappy LT + right handed QB = blindside hit.

    The releasing of Lumpkin and the signing of the DB is for the wide outs GB uses. We may be in constant nickel until someone on the Packers gets de-cleated. As long as we don’t use Tru we may be OK. He was constantly behind receivers or getting lost. While the guy is local, enough is enough. Release him, wait for him to not get picked up, then bring him back to raise the 12th man flag.

    I bet Paul Allen will make an anonymous donation to the Golden Tate “Filling Knocker Outer” fund. That should have been ESPN’s number one on plays of the day. Now that Greg Jennings is getting all the love from Old Spice, maybe he can come across the middle and get “Witten’d” by KamChan. Imagine Tate getting into Matthews so hard that his hair falls out. He then goes on to resemble Urlacher for the rest of his career, and Locks for Love gets a great donation.

  74. Fined for playing football.

  75. WiscCory says:

    Q: Why does a Georgian place his diploma on the dashboard?

    A: So he can park in a handicapped zone!

    Just a little response to GeorgiaHawk’s Wisconsin jokes. Okay, I feel better.

  76. HeinieHunter says:

    We had better get used to the fines for hard hitting as its gonna get worse before it gets better. This does underscore the new image of the Seahawks as one of the most physical teams in the league. Love it!

  77. mojjonation says:

    So now Seattle will not only be known as one of the more physical teams in the league, they will now have to deal with replacement referees who will be hanky happy when they see a physical hit that they believe is questionable.

  78. wabubba67 says:

    Though unnecessary, it would be really cool of Sean Lee to publicly agree to pay Tate’s fine. He knew that it was a good hit and that this ruling is bs. Good pr for him too!

  79. bbnate420 says:

    wabubba67, the league wouldn’t let Lee do that even if he wanted to. It would totally defeat the purpose of the fine. I don’t think some of you get how fines work.

  80. jchawks08 says:

    I know i’m late to the party on this thread, but HawkfaninOK, I’m with you. I’m as big a homer as anyone and I called it immediately during and after the game. Two reasons for the fine. 1st, he launched, when he didn’t need to. 2nd, the helmet to chin contact. Physics be damned, it still happened and rules are rules. Almost positive his teamates will cover the 21k, and if he does it again, they’ll cover it again. Those types of hits are character builders! I love it.

  81. LouieLouie says:

    I think the whole Seahawks team should be fined for the way they beat up “America’s team.”

  82. Too funny, maye he got pumped watching a tape of Largent’s hit on Harden…

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