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Morning links: Hawks ready for Skelton

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 7, 2012 at 6:32 am with 57 Comments »
September 7, 2012 6:41 am
Arizona Cardinals quarterback John Skelton (19) looks for a receiver as he is pressured by Tennessee Titans defensive end Derrick Morgan (91) in the first quarter of an NFL football preseason game on Thursday, Aug. 23, 2012, in Nashville, Tenn. Cardinals offensive guard D'Anthony Batiste (74) and running back Beanie Wells (26) block for Skelton. (AP Photo/Joe Howell)

He was he unlikely choice to emerge from a two-way quarterback battle in the dessert, but the Seattle Seahawks will face quarterback John Skelton when the take on Arizona on Sunday.

The third-year pro out of Fordham University finished 5-2 as a starter last season, including a 19-17 overtime win over Seattle in the final game of the year. At 6-foot-6 and 244 pounds, Skelton has drawn comparisons to Pittsburgh Ben Roethlisberger because of his ability to extend plays and his resistance to arm tackles.

“I’m not the fastest guy,” Skelton said. “I’m not the quickest guy. No one is going to confuse me for a speed guy. But at the same time as far as moving in the pocket, stepping up in the pocket, making one guy miss and keeping plays alive, that’s something that I do pride myself on.”

“He’s very, very good at it,” added Seattle coach Pete Carroll. “This (Arizona coaching) staff is basically from Pittsburgh, where they watched Ben for all of those years … doing his thing. … You don’t know when you have him. He can make something happen when you’re hanging all over him.”

Clare Farnsworth of writes that Doug Baldwin looks like he’s back to his old self after missing most of training camp with a hamstring injury.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times profiles Russell Wilson, writing that his rise to NFL starter is now surprise to those who know him.

Brian McIntyre of writes that Seattle quarterback Josh Portis is earning $6,700 a week on the practice squad ($113,900 for the season), which is more than the minimum practice squad rate of $5,700 a week.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter writes that contrary to reports, tight end Kellen Winslow did not fail a physical on his visit to New England.

Pete Prisco of CBS Sports picks the Cardinals 20-17 over Seattle. Prisco: “This is a game of great quarterback interest. The Seahawks will be starting rookie Russell Wilson. This is a tough spot for a rookie quarterback on the road in a division game. The Cardinals will counter with John Skelton, who beat out Kevin Kolb. The concern, though, is the guys in front of Skelton. Can they protect him? I say they do. Skelton has the better game than Wilson.”

John McGrath of The News Tribune churns out a nice story on former Seahawks quarterback and Tacoma native Jon Kitna, following the first-year coach around on the opening week of the high school season, which included a come-from-behind over Bonney Lake for the Abes.

Dave Wyman of 710 ESPN Seattle writes that Pete Carroll and John Schneider have built a playoff contender with a group of misfits that somehow make sense together.

KJR’s Mitch Levy talks with Peter King of Sports Illustrated about the Seahawks in this audio link.

Darren Urban of writes that Arizona will lean on running backs Beanie Wells and Ryan Williams.

Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic writes that it’s not hard to see why the Cardinals went with John Skelton as the team’s starting quarterback.

Derek Stephens of provides more details on Seattle’s new pass rush.

Did you ever wonder what ESPN’s John Clayton does after he’s done taping his segment? Watch the video below and find out.

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  1. Jason Jones, Brandon Mebane and Big Red have to clog the middle and get a good push with their hands up. Skelton will be tough. The comparisons to Big Ben are legit. The CBs also have to lock their guys up at the line of scrimmage. We know about Fitz…I hope we have the speed to keep up with Doucett and Roberts.

    I think it’s gonna be a grinder of a game. The team with the most time of possession wins. A big running day takes the pressure off of R Dub.

    Can’t wait.


  2. FleaFlicker says:

    Agreed. Don’t think this game comes down to RW or Skelton. Comes down to offensive lines. I’m putting my money on the Hawks, but this ain’t no gimme.

  3. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Stop the run, and pressure the QB. I think that those are the essential ingredients to a Seahawks win Sunday. Seattle’s D-Line has to dominate Arizona’s patch-work O-line. Moreover, Bruce Irvin needs to have a big coming out game. Although it will really take a season, or two, before we know if Irvin was worth a first round pick, 1 and 1/2 sacks, or more, plus a few QB hurries, this game would go a long way towards proving he’s legit.

  4. FleaFlicker says:

    Great article by McGrath. Not just an interesting story, it’s good writing.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    If I didnt know that was Clayton, I’d have guessed it was klm008.

    Wyman makes it sound as if this were a team of castoffs and free agents. This is a team built through the draft, hardly a group of “misfits”.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    A sack and a half plus a couple more QB hurries, in situational duty, is all? Lol.

  7. hawkfan777 says:

    The Clayton bit was pretty good. You guys notice the Seahawks helmet at the beginning? Too cool.

    I heard Clayton on KJR and he said that the “jump” into the bed took 23 takes and he choked on the Chinese food in one of them. He said he never uses chop sticks and isn’t very good at it.

  8. Soggybuc says:

    Really nice article by McGrath. how do you not love Jon Kitna.

  9. The Clayton ad is hilarious. I’ve grown weary of him over recent years, but at least he’s showing a sense of humor for change.

  10. BEST Things I’ve heard all week:

    Farnsworth: “there was nothing limited about [Lynch's] efforts on the few touches he got before giving way to rookie Robert Turbin. Lynch displayed the explosive one-step-and-go style in getting through the line that is required to run in line coach Tom Cable’s system. There also were the multiple changes of direction, with accompanying dips and ducks”

    Farnsworth: “during practice… Baldwin has shown how quickly he was been able to rekindle the chemistry with rookie QB Russell Wilson.”

    Lynch ready, Baldwin ready, plus a healthy Sydney Rice for a change? Should be all the offense we need this Sunday.

  11. Matt Flynn sitting out practice again.

    Just wondering… if Flynn had started sitting out with his boo-boo elbow a week earlier in preseason, would Pete Carroll have kept Tarvaris Jackson here as a needed backup?

  12. Newborough says:

    Both teams have pretty similar keys to winning this : pressure the QB, stuff the run to force the pass and contain the dangerous return guy on Teams. Should be a lot closer than many here are expecting, but with our superior OL, secondary and overall depth-with-speed on Special Teams, we should prevail, even on the road.

    Can’t wait for Sunday – Go Hawks !!

  13. surelyyoujest says:

    If we can get away from the tendency we had last year to be totally inept offensively in the first half, and be down by 10-17 points by halftime, I think we’ll have a winning record this year. I expect to be in every game, and really, it will come down to how many we find a way to win. We could be 6-10 if we lose a few heartbreakers, or we could be 11-5 if we find ways to win in the 4th.

    Here’s hoping we get off to a good start on Sunday, but Sunday is just week 1.

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Just having a healthy Baldwin and Rice in there will make a big difference in our passing attack, imo.
    Now that I have Directv up and running no more going to the sports bars,( that have very limited beer selections) to fight for a TV, ( that I can’t have sound with) to watch the game, and put up with Stealer, Packer, and Saint transplant fans.

    No more Streaming too!

    Pinch me, I’m in Heaven!

  15. I was thinking it is going to be 100+ there sunday afternoon.That heat will be hard on everyone they be able to beat the card’s ,but the heat is going to kill them.They should come over here to Yakima,or tri citys it’s been high 90’s sence the end of july.

  16. tchristensen says:

    Cardinals play in a domed stadium jibo1. The heat will not be a factor.

  17. tchristensen says:

    Actually it’s a retractable roof but the building is cooled.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    The heat’s a factor there in September, regardless. Even with the roof closed, it’s balls hot in there.

  19. HawkfaninMT says:

    Going to the game…

    Kinda curious to see if they open it up to let the heat in. The heat would bother the Hawks moreso than the Cards

  20. hawkfan777 says:


    I have been to a few games there and inside the dome it was in the mid 70’s each time. One of the times I was there it was 110 outside. It should be pretty comfortable inside.

  21. RDPoulsbo says:

    Cards have their TC in Flagstaff, so they haven’t had much time to get reacquainted with the desert heat either.

  22. hawkfan777 says:

    According to wikipedia (which isn’t always correct). The temp is set at 70 degrees in the stadium. I would guess it is warmer in certain parts of the stadium because of the way the roof is made. I sat on the east side once and it felt a little warmer than the west side.

  23. Dukeshire says:

    That’s cool. I went in ’05 and ’06 when I was living in Vegas. It was so muggy and hot in there. Here’s hoping they have your experience, Sunday.

  24. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Many of the players grew up in the Southeast Where the the high temperatures and high humidity is much harder to deal with.

    Dry heat isn’t going to effect them much regardless If it’s 80 -90 in that stadium.

  25. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I’m far more concerned with how the Husky players are going to handle the heat and humidity when they play LSU Saturday. At least that game is in the evening.

  26. psoundpowerhouse says:

    The pressure I think is gonna be on the seahawk defense. This group has been hyped by everyone all preseason. Seattle’s secondary especially!
    If the defense can hold Az. to 20pts or less we win.
    If not, all bets are off.

  27. seahawk44 says:

    GeorgiaHawk, why is it that it seems no matter what sports bar you go to across the country, there are always Steelers and Packers fans? It is so true and annoying. Cowboys fans too, to some extent. When I spot the occasional Seahawks fan it is like finding a long lost relative.

  28. The way we can rotate D lineman, I would rather have the roof open. They might be more acclimated, but we have more guys to throw at them. I wish Scruggs was healthy, sure impressed in the short time we got to see him. Our depth along our D line is a beautiful yet mean thought.

    30-10 if Lynch plays the second half 27-17 without.

    I sure wish Kitna well, that neighborhood where Lincoln HS has been long downtrodden. Should be a good thing for the whole area to have pride in their school and team again. I was always impressed with his leadership and ability to relate to people from all walks of life. He is strong in his faith, but doesn’t try to push it on people. Pre-game prayers was about the only time you saw it, join in if you like. The only other time you heard about it was when other players spoke on the issue.

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    seahawk44- It does seem that way. They are very passonate fans. It doesn’t hurt that they have won multiple SuperBowls too.
    Hopefully we will get some before it’s time for me to take a bottle of whiskey deep in the forest, to some man cave. Lol.

  30. Guys, they never open the roof down in Arizona. The fans complained because the sun gets in your eyes the way it hits the roof when the retractable roof is back, and you can’t see the game. So expect a cool, controlled environment on Sunday.

  31. georgia, sounds like you have dtv sunday ticket.
    If you paid full price for it there are ways to call them up and get $100 or so off the bill. (unless your new and you get it for free)
    All you have to do is call retention and tell them you think the price for it is a little much and they usually offer discounts.
    see this link: http://www.dbstalkDOTcom/showthread.php?t=204166&page=31

  32. as usual – replace the DOT with a .

  33. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- your right in that they had some problems with the cooling back around the time you went there.

    There were many complaints. Here’s one-

    “While eating my gourmet nachos, I witnessed drops of who knows what dripping down from the heavens.
    Without missing a beat, I continued enjoying my savory meal, again the heavens let loose, I looked up, only to discover it wasnt angel tears in my culinary delight, but apparantly condensation from the sanitay pipes.
    Hopefully the Cardinals will look into this issue.

    Also, what happened to the air conditioning? Last year on similar hot days, the stadium was MUCH cooler, Yesterday the air was stagnent and humid, in the club level.
    Bidwells, we had a stadium tour explaining in great detail the incredible air conditioning system, your sold out, keep the paying fans happy, turn the air back up!”

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    mocarob- Thanks, however I got it through my girlfriend who was a new customer. I had to concrete the post and run the cable myself though. Just glad it’s finally in! Lol.

  35. Carlsonkid says:

    Prisco thinks their O-line is going to protect Skelton ?! Has he watched any of their preseason games ? It wouldn’t matter who the QB is behind that line , he’s going to be running around like a chicken with it’s head cut off all day long ( much like Tarvaris had to do at the beginning of last year ) .

    Arizona is going to have it’s hands full keeping Skelton upright in this game . And a hurry is as good as a sack when you have our ball-hawking secondary just waiting for you to make a mistake . This could turn ugly for them quickly …

    Finally football ! GO HAWKS !

  36. FairbanksDoug says:

    “Now that I have Directv up and running no more going to the sports bars,( that have very limited beer selections) to fight for a TV, ( that I can’t have sound with) to watch the game, and put up with Stealer, Packer, and Saint transplant fans.”

    I got tired of the same thing, going into bars fighting for space and not much chance to get the Hawks game on the best TV. That was last year though, now I own a bar, and get to make sure the Hawks get the 80″ TV. It’s a bit up the road from you but your welcome to try my choices of beer anytime.

  37. princeaden says:

    I have a hard time believing that Skelton from Fordham has the better game than Wilson who by the way led NC state to a Bowl victory (and named MVP) and was within 2 hail mary passes from a National Championship at Wisconsin. Prisco Bugs The $h!t out of me. I really hope Wilson and the Seahawks play so solid and beat Arizona soundly. It wont shut up the East Coast bias, but at least it will make me feel better.

  38. Carlsonkid says:

    Take a look at the picture at the top of the page and read the caption . “Batiste and Wells block for Skelton” … is that what you call that ? LOL , Skelton looks like he just saw a ghost .

    Irvin , Clemons and Jones are probably licking their chops as we speak …

  39. GeorgiaHawk says:

    FairbanksDoug- Cool! How far up the road?

  40. Beer for sunday, try Monk’s Indiscretion from Sound Brewery if you get a chance or can find it, it’s 10% in 22oz bottles. Two of them and you will be feelin’ alright. It’s a supper light Belgian Ale, it’s awesome.

  41. Eric D, thanks for all the hard work getting the Hawk junkies through the off season.

    Do we get the official season & playoff prediction thread soon?

  42. I’ve been at our games in Phoenix 3 of the last 4 years. Never hot inside, its more like an air-conditioned shopping mall inside, with fans who are nearly as distracted and disinterested as kids at the mall.

    Two reasons the Cardinals will lose on Sunday:
    LT D’Anthony Batiste
    RT Bobby Massie

    Their interior O line isn’t bad, but how are these two inexperienced tackles going to handle the pressure from Clem, Irvin, Red, KJ, and Hill? They’re not.

  43. FairbanksDoug, which bar?

  44. The reason there are so many Stealer and Packer fans around the country is because they LEFT those cities in droves. Usually they are happy drunks in the bars, though. But when I go to a bar full of Raider fans, I leave and go to another place.

  45. GeorgiaHawk says:

    If anyone ever passes through Republic Wa. stop at Rebublic brew. All you can eat free peanuts too. Just throw the shells on the floor and keep drinking while listening to some local music.
    One of the owners Emily used to work for my cousin Dan who I usually come out to visit in the summer.

    Great beer and great enviroment! You will probably see some Mule Deer walking around this old Gold mining town too.
    Also you are about a 30 minute drive from the Canadian border.

  46. jchawks08 says:

    The tossing peanut shells on the floor in a public establishment always intrigues me. There was a bar on 1st Ave. in Seattle on the walk (south to north) to the stadium that allowed you to do that. I think it burned down a couple years ago. It may have even been called ‘Bar’.

  47. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Perhaps the peanut shells on the floor had something to do with it? Lol.

  48. jchawks08 says:

    Confirmed it was called ‘The Bar’.. Awesome place to pre-funk (get obliterated) before a hawks game. :D Ah the good ole days..

  49. sluggo42 says:

    We toss our free peanut shells on the floor here in Camarillo, Ca., at a bar/BBQ place called Bandits… Used to be my go to for Hawk games, but the gangbangers found out they show the Raiders and the Cowboy games, so now I go to my new secret place…

  50. Georgia,
    lol “If anyone ever passes through Republic Wa”
    No one ever “passes through” Republic, it not on the way to anywhere unless you are traveling from Kettle Falls to Tonasket. But it is beautiful there.

  51. OCHawkFan says:

    Has anyone posted this?

    Bill Simmons is crazy, but I love the guy. RW is the best QB in the league and Hawks make the Super Bowl this year. Love it!

  52. btw, if Doug’s bar is in Fairbanks that would be a ways up the road!

  53. OCHawk, thanks for the link. Hilarious!

    “When Russell Wilson walks in the room, you feel his presence. He has an incredible vibe about him that’s outstanding for an offensive football team and a team. ‘You can feel his presence???’ Thank God Russell Wilson decided to become a quarterback instead of an evil cult leader — we could have had the next Manson on our hands.”

  54. Two teams that win with defense. Ours has a solid offensive line and power running game. Theirs has big play Special Teams.

    I expect that AZ’s defense + special teams may score more than their offense does. Their offense will see a lot of punts, sacks, and turnovers.

    I expect that our defense will score too, while our offense will control the ball for the win.

    So, Don’t you hate predictions of NFL Games? I mean, they’re so meaningless, right?
    Okay. Here’s mine.


    +7 D will score a TD.
    +3 ST runbacks will result in at least one FG.
    +6 Offense will stall often before getting to our end zone.

    +7 D will score a TD.
    +3 D will cause turnovers resulting in at least one FG.
    +17 Offense will control the ball and make enough plays to win.

    SEA 27
    AZ 16

  55. bird_spit says:

    If RW gets as many opportunities as TJ in the first game (in seattle), then it will be a big blow out. It could be 34-10 if Fitz is contained. Rewatching these games from last year, the one thing that is pretty obvious. These guys really dont like each other very much. It will be an emotional game for our young guys..hopefully they have more discipline this year.

  56. montanamike2 says:

    Thanks Duke i’ll try that brew this weekend- a few articles back.
    I couldn’t believe we got dissed so easily by Pricko. He somehow just willed the Card’s a new o-line? If he picked the Cards at home i could say he’s entitled to his opinion, but that’s just outright laaazy journalism. And that link above is hilarious OCHawkFan.

  57. “Lynch ready, Baldwin ready, plus a healthy Sydney Rice for a change? Should be all the offense we need this Sunday.” Ummm…yes!!! Throw in Okung and I believe we have all the pieces to have a top 10 offense this season. I know we’re going to get some key guys banged up this year, but that’s the way it goes. However, I think our depth is so good that don’t have any “irreplaceable” player except for ET.

    On one hand, I don’t think the Flynn injury can be too serious or why would there only be 2 QBs on the active roster? On the other hand, it does make you worry that he’s not practicing and missing time with it and he’s the only back-up to Wilson.

    All I know is that our current third-string QB (we don’t have one) is better than our starting QB last year! lmao! I miss Hutch! DeCastro! Oher better than Aaron Curry! I love Matt! Long live Kenny Easley! etc. Hey-it’s a joke! I’m in a good mood. It’s Friday! Anyone else excited for Sunday? lol

    I think the Cardinals are a very good football team, minus it’s OL. That’s the difference in this game. They have a horrible unit that will, IMO, cost them the game, whereas we are pretty solid up and down. My biggest fear is that they will return a punt (or two) for TDs and we lose. I like our chances, but have seen enough games to know it’s not a “gimme” game either. “We” need to show up and I think we will.

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