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Report: Ex-Hawks TE Winslow to visit N.E.

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 4, 2012 at 12:40 pm with 28 Comments »
September 4, 2012 12:40 pm
Seattle Seahawks tight end Kellen Winslow (82) catches a touchdown pass during the first half of an NFL preseason football game against the Kansas City Chiefs in Kansas City, Mo., Friday, Aug. 24, 2012. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

As expected, it didn’t take long for former Seattle Seahawks tight end Kellen Winslow to find a potential suitor after Seattle released him over the weekend.

Per Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com, Winslow is headed to New England for a visit.

This move makes sense because of how much two tight-end sets are a focal point of the Patriots’ offense. New England already signed Rob Gronkoswki and Aaron Hernandez to lucrative contract extensions, so bringing in Winslow adds insurance in case one of those two productive tight ends suffers an injury

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Former Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe, who Seattle showed interest in during free agency, also is on New England’s roster.

An added bonus for Winlsow is he gets to play against the team that spurned him when the Patriots travel to Seattle for a Week 6 matchup on Oct. 14.

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  1. ruminator1 says:

    Eric, Sorry if you already posted a reference, but is there a pick-em contest this year?

  2. ruminator1 says:

    as for Winslow in NE, this is all the more puzzling in terms of Seattle’s decision. To me it is now sounding more and more like a money issue, which is what we were told. Seattle not being willing to pay 3+m for a part time player, regardless of talent level. Will be interesting to see what NE does.

  3. Ruminator1: Yep, I’ll be posting it shortly.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    I see it much differently. If this were a true money issue, why then would NE tie up even more cash into the TE position? No, I still contend there is something more to Seattle’s decision, especially when you concider they knew the contract implications when they acquired him.

  5. pope411 says:

    So those who thought Winslow would be back in Seattle are actually correct.

  6. hawkfan777 says:

    I think money was an issue but more importantly was the pick they would have given up if he started the year on the Hawks roster. I think the reward was not worth the risk. The guy couldnt practice and there were no guarantees that he would even be able to make it through the season healthy. New England would have no risk if they signed him next week. It is a no brainer for them. Even if it does cost them a few million a year. They only pay if he is able to play if they sign him after the start of the season.

  7. montanamike2 says:

    I’m glad to have the 7th rounder back. In past regimes i’d consider that as pretty much a throw away pick.

  8. ruminator1 says:

    Originally, I agreed with your position Dukeshire, but the more I thought about it, the money argument seemed strongest. I am not sure about NE’s position re the cap, but they have brought in a few TE’s recently I think. Winslow as a part time player makes some sense for them. If they sign him, will it be for the same $ and with the same practice stipulations? You’d think so. And if it was a locker room issue, you’d think NE would know that….

    On the issue of Seattle knowing the contract terms and the player limitations when they signed him, obviously they did. And just as obviously, something happened to change their mind. I’m guessing that “something” was the full realization of just how much of a part time player they were getting. His performance in practice and in games was reported to have been good, but spare. Was he a locker rooom cancer? I remember how everyone seemed to think that about TO until PC said it wasn’t so (i’m not totally convinced still :) It couldn’t have been worries over longevity as this is a player who is consistently making plays every season, injury or no.

    So emotionally, I agree with you. But, to me, the money argument rings a bell. It is what they said and really, that is all we have concretely. Who knows.

    Moore, if he can avoid injury, will bring an excellent option for our passing game

    My personal preference would have had Seattle keep McGrath. I still think he is going to be a real bonus for some team.

  9. montanamike2 says:

    I went to the mongolian bbq for lunch today, when the bill came my fortune cookie said i should get a rub and tug!!! In all my years i’ve never seen a fortune cookie like that. Is this a sign? Has anyone else gotten one like this? Sorry off subject.

  10. I was really looking forward to Winslow bringing something special, but with his knees he was a short-timer after all, so I’m trying to give Scheider the benefit of the doubt about this.

    I’ll know what I think of letting Winslow go once I see how good Anthony McCoy and Evan Moore look making receptions in the new offense.

  11. lol, montana! you need to go to better restaurants. lol.

  12. montanamike2 says:

    Maybe the restaraunt is in cahoots with the massage parlor.

  13. DanielleMND says:

    I’ll bet he’ll earn less there than if he had accepted a pay cut here.

  14. “I was really looking forward to Winslow bringing something special, but with his knees he was a short-timer after all, so I’m trying to give Scheider the benefit of the doubt about this.”

    I was too. I’d thought signing him was one of the real low-cost coups of the off-season. The decision still doesn’t make good sense to me – but if he does go to NE – can’t imagine he’ll put up the kind of stats that would make us all collectively kick ourselves, playing behind the guys they already have at the position.

  15. Dukeshire says:

    ruminator1 – Maybe so. It just seems to me that the dollars and draft pick were a known heading into this. Perhaps they had a change of heart, but it just seems to me that something must have triggered that change. Of course, Im only speculating…

  16. jchawks08 says:

    Best Fortune Cookie ever! I reckon you’d better schedule a massage..

  17. owenbytheway says:

    Yeah, Duke, everybody is speculating because neither Hawks brass or Winslow have said one word about it.

    Winslow will be back with the Hawks next Monday, at a low guarantee (around $2 million) with incredible incentives that will allow him to make as much or more than his guarantee.

    The Hawks get their draft pick back, a hedge against a bad knee, and they win if he reaches those incentives.

    Keeping him until the day after the cut date and nearly every other team had filled their roster and practice squad just eliminates some other teams that might have signed him.

    NE has always been known for bringing in a lot of guys, especially vets, without anything coming of it.

    I’m not worried, he will be back at the VMAC in less than a week.

  18. Skavage says:

    I heard another blip this morning on Brock and Salk that might shed a tiny bit of light on the KW situation. Apparently he was pretty vocal out on the practice field in terms of showing his frustration after bad throws and such. Can anyone confirm that spent a lot of time at practices during camp?

    Maybe this is an indication that there were indeed other factors beyond the dollars. Personally I believe it was mostly money but after reading the article that points out we didn’t lose a draft pick for cutting him I can’t help but think that may also be a factor.

    From a conspiracy theory standpoint do you suppose the plan all along was to cut him, wait until after week one, and then resign him for less and keep our draft pick? And then Evan just happened to become available giving us a 4th TE (after KW resigns)? Ok, ok, I agree…highly unlikely. Still… :)

  19. Skavage says:

    Oops, I was apparently typing while Own was clicking “submit”. Similar thoughts.

  20. sluggo42 says:

    I heard that he once asked out loud to all within earshot, “Who was that thrown to?”, after an errant TJack pass. But I think KW loves Dane-Ja, so I agree that he’ll be back with a restructured contract. Why would he want to go play behind all the TE’s in NE? Unless he thinks they can get a title there this year, which is entirely possible…

  21. orbeavhawk says:

    I was REALLY looking forward to having KW on our Team this year – EXCITED! Was disappointed and confused when word came of his release BUT now that the smoke has cleared and I have read more about Evan Moore and even more – watched video of him making catches etc. I am no really looking forward to Evan as our new TE this year……I think he will add alot more excitement——HOW much can we take??? My ol’ ticker might not take all of this – Hee Hee!

    GOOOOOOOOOOOHawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PS – and EM said he wanted to come to play for Pete and be a SeaHawk….that did IT!

  22. I’ve heard enough by now from all of you to suspect we should leave PC&JS’s silence so far just as it is: Winslow’s gone with finality until we learn something else clearing the air on the Seahawk’s side quite soon. But I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t, for the following simple reason. Paying a lot of cash (think likely cost-probability per touchdown pass on $3M, or whatever fraction of that he might last this season), for an aging WR, of whatever pedigree & track record, who can’t even dependably practice…is not a reasonable stretch by any criterion as I see it.

  23. grizindabox24 says:

    Seattle is $13 million under the cap, but only because they rolled $20 million of unused cap space from last season. This in reality means that the Hawks would be over the cap if not for the rollover. The Hawks need to maintain a cushion in this seasons cap so they can roll it into next season. So a couple million here and a couple million there from this season will go a long way next season. The way the system is set up now, it will be important to maintain rollover cap for the next season.

  24. To bruzyb; I agree. Price per catch and an even higher price per TD, definitely not worth it. He would always be at best a 4th option. Way too much $. Reduce that contract, welcome back, if not, have a nice life.

  25. princeaden says:

    When was the last time we saw this regime cut and then allow back any player of significance ? We’ve seen the last of Winslow, TO,Lofa and so on. These guys worry about whose in front of them and not whose in the rear view mirror. IMO

  26. If Pats wait till after season starts to sign KW,jr. the price more than likely will be at a cheaper rate than what he woulda recieved here w/ current contract. Again, if that’s the case it makes it more interesting as to why he wouldn’t take pay cut here, unless he thought he wouldn’t get released. Did lack of practices make him a liability since he could not develop much continuity w/ QB’s in practice because of knee(s) situation?
    I had heard that the Hawks had been after KW to take pay cut since his arrival. Fiscal sense or locker room issue (diva)? Two coaches have taken a pass on this guy before he played regular season for them, makes me wonder, what up? Is a gimpy knee’d Pass catching TE worth it for Pats? We shall see soon enuff.

  27. grizindabox24 says:

    @jthom1
    Former Rams TE Mike Hoomanawanui signs with Patriots’ 53-man roster and is expected to play this week.

  28. PugetHawk says:

    Seems like they are clearing up more room on the cap to look into resigning players like Kam and Sherman. Smart. Winslow needs new knees to be explosive enough to warrant 3M a year.

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