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Wilson doing it for the short people

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 27, 2012 at 5:10 pm with 71 Comments »
August 27, 2012 6:06 pm

A day after Pete Carroll announced Russell Wilson will be his starting quarterback, the rookie signal caller addressed reporters today after practice.

Wilson, of course, was excited when Carroll told him that he would be the team’s starter for the season opener.

So how did Wilson celebrate? By taking his wife out to dinner and later watching a couple episodes of his favorite show – Entourage.

Doug Flutie would like this – Wilson said he’s playing for all of those quarterbacks who have been told they are too short to play the position.

“Me being a shorter quarterback, I believe I’m playing for a lot of other kids in the future, to be honest with you,” Wilson said. “And that’s part of my motivation.”

Reserve quarterback Matt Flynn threw the ball and worked out for about half of the practice today, but shutting it down and icing his elbow.

“He was very disappointed,” Carroll said, when asked how Flynn took the new. “Matt’s a great competitor. He came in here to win this job. And he’s not done. He’s going after it, and he’ll continue to battle for it.

“But he was disappointed, and I would expect him to be.”

Carroll said he’s hopeful that Flynn can get up to full speed tomorrow, and play against Oakland on Thursday. Third string quarterback Josh Portis will play as well.

Wilson will start the game against the Raiders.

Lynch still out

Running back Marshawn Lynch’s back issue could be more of a concern than anticipated for the Seahawks. Lynch did not attend practice today in order to receive treatment for back spasms that have been an ongoing for the Cal product since he arrived in Seattle.

Lynch played at Denver two weeks ago, but did not play last week against Kansas City.

Carroll said Lynch will not play against Oakland on Thursday, as the trainers attempt to get him ready for Arizona.

“We’ll have rested him a couple of weeks to make sure that he’s okay,” Carroll said. “So we’re taking care of it with this one. He’s had back conditions in the past, so we’re just making sure we’re doing the right thing and taking all the time that is available.

Some tidbits

* The Seahawks announced the Tarvaris Jackson trade to Buffalo has been finalized. Seattle also released cornerback Coye Francies to get down to 75 players today.

* Offensive lineman John Moffitt returned to practice today and worked with the second unit. Carroll said if everything goes well, Moffitt will play on Thursday against Oakland, but it looks like he’ll have to battle rookie J.R. Sweezy for his starting right guard job.

* Safety Kam Chancellor had a sore hip that he rested against Kansas City. But Chancellor was back out at practice today.

* Sidney Rice looks like he’s returning back to form. Rice made a pretty, diving catch on an in route, bringing in the ball on his finger tips.

* Ben Obomanu (neck) returned to practice and made several nice plays in the passing game. This is usually the week that Obomanu lets people know that he’s still one of the steadiest performers on the team.

* Players who did not practice include defensive end Jason Jones (knee), defensive tackle Greg Scruggs (hamstring), linebacker Matt McCoy (knee), receiver Doug Baldwin (hamstring) and safety Chris Maragos (shoulder). Cornerback Walter Thurmond (leg) and offensive lineman James Carpenter (knee) remain on the PUP list.

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  1. princeaden says:

    I’m hoping that Lynch is fine and also wondering about Jason Jones. I hope they’re both not real chronic problems, but it is a bit concerning.

  2. montanamike2 says:

    I’m just a hair under 5-11 and 205 lbs, almost a carbon copy as RW and in no way do i consider myself short. If this were the NBA then i concede but i tower over most people. He’s not as small as a lot of RB’s.

  3. Brentlyr says:

    That’s it. I’m finally on the R.W. wagon. Him being an Entourage fan turned me around. And if I were pressed to add another reason, I suppose his help in kicking the snot out of KC had a little to do with it too.

  4. bbnate420 says:

    He’s short relative to the position of QB, not the population at large. I think 5’10” 1/2 is a little under the average for men though.

  5. Seems to me it looks like we won’t be seeing Carp until 6 weeks into the season. But I’m not ruling out any surprises involving him, whether good or bad.

    Would like an update on how he’s doing anyway.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    Yes, by NFL QB standards he is well below the average height and weight.

    Seems like we went down this road with Lynch last season about this time as well. Let’s hope for the same overall results.

    Hearing that Rice is rounding into form is great news. This team needs him healthy, badly. His talent transforms this offense.

  7. In case anyone is interested Wilson is currently playing on ESPN on a rewind of a game he played back in December 2011 against Michigan ST.

  8. I like hearing that Flynn is is not happy. Maybe this will be good to him to see how he responds to adversity. I don’t know what to make of this elbow condition thats keeping him from playing, I guess the good thing is that he hasnt had history of this.

    As we finally make our way past this seduction of RW the reality stands that this kid is special. I’ve said it before and ill say it again. If he is this good starting out think about how well he would perform after learning for at least a year in a controlled environment. I love watching him play. He is electric, exiting, and mystifying. But I still fear the ramifications of throwing him out there TOO SOON.

    I don’t suspect Flynn is done and I wonder what point would bring Pete to sideline seattles newest star. It’s understandable that during the preseason games Wilson has outperformed Flynn. But are we already blinded by the production that Flynn produced in his two “exhibition” games (that actually had playoff implications for his opponents).

    Just trying to keep a level head and wrap my brain around the decisions that Pete has to make. Glad it’s not me….

  9. freedom_X says:

    The average height of a male in the United States (20-29) is 5’10”. The average height of males in the USA (all males over 20) is 5’9″ 1/2 (we apparently shrink as we get older.)

    Wilson is probably as tall or taller than 60% of the media people who cover him.

  10. Dukeshire says:

    That may be, but has nothing to do with playing QB in the NFL. It’s a league full of athletic freaks. Should he become a probowl QB, I’d guess he’d be one of only a handful under 6′ to do so. If he were to win the Super Bowl? Off the top, I don’t believe any QB under 6′ has done that. Brees would likely be the shortest at 6′ even.

  11. DanielleMND says:

    “I like hearing that Flynn is is not happy.”

    Yeah. He’s a competitor. Unlike Clipboard Jesus, who didn’t seem too put out by T-Jack being named the starter last season. He seemed content to warm the bench.

  12. For all this talk about height I just remember how tall i tried to feel last year with TJack as the QB but how disappointing it was for fans. This year is a 180 from my perspective on the QB situation.
    If height and weight were the only factors in football why even play the games, lets just measure and weigh everyone on each team and then determine the winner. Sorry, wrong sport.

    I can’t remember the Seahawks ever having such an electric QB as Wilson. This year will be exciting for sure.

    I really hope Lynch is o.k. for Sept. 9th. Man, we really look good if against the Cardinals if we have all cylinders firing.

    Lets keep the faith and hope for an awesome 2012 season. Go Hawks!!!!!!!

  13. You are right Danielle. I’m pretty sure they panned to Whitehurst during the game one time and he was playing with a coloring book.

  14. freedom_X says:

    Oh no, I’m not saying he’s tall or average for a QB. It’s more a reaction to the media and the population at large calling him “short”.

    Compared to the general population, he’s not short. Wilson is probably as tall or taller than most of the people calling him short.

    Because of his very good throwing motion, I actually don’t think he’ll have many passes deflected (one criticism of short QB’s.) The college stats back that. I’m more concerned with his pocket vision, and being able to see all his options.

    But a long time ago, Terry Bradshaw was talking about a QB perceived as short (can’t remember who it was) and pointed out the height difference by holding up his thumb and forefinger. Measure 3″ out, and ask yourself how much a difference that 3″ can really mean.

    If it were that big a deal, they should be able to give Wilson some platform athletic shoes to make up some of the difference. :)

  15. Sorry one less if and height and weight is probably not a sport.

  16. Ewalters7354 says:

    Funny the blog is going on and on about height lol….BTW did you guys see that the Rams traded Jason Smith for Wayne Hunter??I know Clem and Bruce are licking their chops.I love seeing teams in our division do bad.Two down,one to go!

  17. MadSweeney42 says:

    I know he’s got DangerRuss as a nickname but I’m trying to get a few others started to celebrate his shortness. The two I’m using in conversations with friends are Russell Sprout and Five-Eighths (his combine height is 5’10-5/8″).

    I’m excited about the team. No TO is great, the uniforms aren’t awful and have grown on me quickly, we’ve got Beast Mode and Hulk Smash plus Little Leon, Clemons and Bryant (whose jersey I’m still trying to get, any suggestions?), a so far quiet KWII and another probowl TE, and Five Eighths plus the best backup in the league. Not to mention the best DB group in the league. Carroll and Schneider have done a seriously genius renovation of the mess Ruskell left behind. If the team performs well this year, I’d have a hard time finding a better turnaround story than this one. And SF doesn’t count because they were stocked with talent, serious talent (how many first and second rounders on their lines?) but lacked a coach. I’m dying for the PAC10 coaching smack downs this year, hope we split home and home then meet in Seattle for the NFC title game. Should be an epic turnaround for the sorry ass NFCW once Fisher gets the Rams turned around.

  18. raymaines says:

    I’d like to see Josh Portis play the whole game against Oakland on Thursday. Now that I think about it for a second, I don’t want any of the starters to play.

  19. raymaines says:

    Heck, I don’t even want the back ups to play, just the guys that are going to get cut. I’d be OK with a forfeit. Nobody gets hurt. We could pretend it was the pro-bowl.

  20. Dukeshire says:

    I actually get a kick out of Russell Sprout. lol

  21. Yes Raymaines those are my thoughts exactly. When we have something perfect set for the table why go and muck it up with a bunch of nasty knarly uncultured raiders sitting at the table. I just remember Red getting hurt against them, Hasselbeck was another and I’m sure Zach Miller could do without the headache.

    I know the coaches still need to find out who makes the team and who doesn’t so just play those guys. Yeah lets call it a pro bowl. Works fine for me. Sorry to diss your raiders Eric, but this is Seahawk World.

  22. Beachhawk says:

    Good call Willdog. Get some quick reps for RW and shut down the starters.

  23. princeaden says:

    I know this is a bit of a leap. But, RW in some way reminds me of Tiger Woods with his mental approach and quiet self confidence. Now, don’t get me wrong, there are some OTHER personal attributes that I do not think the young Mr. Wilson possesses. That said, I hope RW can reach a similar level of career success as Tiger. If that happens, we as Seahawk fans will be very happy for a good long time.

  24. RhewChuryll says:

    I’d love to see Josh Portis play the whole game this week. I got to meet him this summer and he is a pretty humble guy. Anyone that can put up with hundreds of kids, sign autographs and then go to an auction to raise money for a new football field in Kodiak gets my props.

  25. Ewalters7354 says:

    I personally love The Royal Russell as a nickname lol…also the Tiger Woods quote was VERY humorous to me.Fans are so excited we are anointing Russ as the saviour of the franchise and he has yet to play a meaningful down in this league.I just hope and pray when he has those bad games people don’t start going crazy and calling him a bust.Stay tuned…

  26. Yo princeaden, my thoughts to the tee, that is really ironic but i think the Tiger comparison is spot on. However i think this athlete can do it all successfully without the extra women.

    Again, Coach Carrol calling Coach Carrol, lets keep our starters safe and let those back up hungry kids stay on the field.

    There is nothing to prove here and hash out that can’t happen at practice or the first 60 seconds of the Cardinals game.

    Lets Prey for a injury free week 4 of preseason and that said look out Week 1, the Seahawks got something.

  27. jawpeace says:

    Height is all relative. I am 5′ 10″ when I was interning at a church the three other guys were all at least 6′ 3″. I was called the short one for a year. After that I went and worked at Epson in Portland. Lots of Vietnamese worked there. Suddenly I was MR. tall guy please get that box for me. Those three months brought healing. Okay enough of that the point is height is completely relative to where you are at; and frankly where Wilson is playing at he is short. But that doesn’t mean he can’t play with the big boys.

  28. Bobby, did you just read RhewChuryll’s post? I’m sure it won’t change your mind about Portis, but it just goes to show there are 2 sides to every coin.

  29. raymaines says:

    When RW has the inevitable bad game there will be a clamor for MF and I’m going to be patient with that. There will also be a few outspoken turds who will loudly tell us all RW is a epic bust / PC&JS are idiots / the Seahawks are doomed and the sky is falling as we speak. I’m not going to be patient with that line of garbage.

  30. I personally like to keep it short (pun…ha ha) and sweet.

    R Dub

  31. Ewalters7354 says:

    raymaines,exactly.Good stuff bro.

  32. So too bad we didn’t keep Lutui for another day or so – NYJ just traded their RG to the Rams (he was stinking it up) and was looking for another today – woulda been cool to be able to pick up another late round pick!

  33. Nothing can bring me down today… I have two QBs that I like and T-Jack is out of town. Finally!

  34. I had to buy a pair of compression shorts to hide the boner I have for our upcoming season. Let’s get this started! GO SEAHAWKS!!

  35. raymaines says:

    Oh my! That’s more than I wanted to know.

  36. fryingpan says:

    I’m happy about our QB situation, but why all the hate for Tavaris? He did a nice job last year with a torn pec for much of the season. I wish him well with the Bills.

  37. MattandCindy says:

    I got a question for EVERYBODY to answer. Usually I’ll get 1 or 2 responses, but i’d actually like to know how everyone feels on this….

    Does anyone believe that Matt Flynn is not only extremely pissed off, but undoubtedly climbing up his agents a$$ to get traded to a team that will let him start?

    Now, I understand that RW has in no way “locked down” the job. I know that Flynn could step in with almost no prep time and keep this team going if, god forbid, RW stinks it up or gets injured badly. I would imagine, speaking as an athlete whose been in this position, that he wants to play. Of course you want your team to win, and should do ANYTHING to facilitate that……
    However, this kid wants to start. He came here to start. Almost any other team in the league wouldn’t have waited this long, and would have given Flynn all the 1st team reps. Here’s the keys, show me what you can do.

    I LOVE the fact that PC and JS have flipped conventional off a cliff and laser guided a J-DAM to finish it off. It’s exactly what this team AND league needs. I AM ALL ABOUT RUSS!!!
    I’m just wondering if anyone besides me is thinking that Flynn feels shafted, and wants out of here.

    Looking forward to some answers.

  38. Those Raiders better not cheap shot any of our players, why do we always play them last game of the preseason? All of their soon to be cut players trying to make a name for themselves kneeing our TE’s in the balls.

  39. raymaines says:

    I’m all happy with TJack. No hate. But I’m really tired of hearing about his torn Pec. Like he’s the only guy to ever play through an injury?

    As your salary goes up, more and more is expected of you. School teachers, bank tellers, and city bus drivers aren’t expected to to do that sort of thing, but when you earn $4,000,000 per year you’re kind of expected to show up for work every day and not whine about how tough life is.

  40. Hammajamma says:

    Time for the Sweezy story to make national news.

    And I want to Sherman come up with some frikin’ bird of prey strut action every time he swats a ball away.

  41. MattandCindy – I am SURE Flynn is pissed – I am pretty sure Carroll said that he was when he was told Wilson was going to start at KC – can’t imagine reaction now.

    His best bet is to be ready to play – when/if he gets his opportunity he can continue to make the most of it. I think the trade possiblity is done until the end of the season now.

  42. True raymaines, rich athletes shouldn’t whine. Your comment is pretty strange though, since the reason TJack’s injury has been talked about so much is exactly because He Never Whined.

    And by the way, $4 Million is PEANUTS for a starting QB in the NFL.
    Cutler $10M
    Sanchez $11.6M
    Fitzpatrick $9.8M
    Kolb $12.6M
    Flynn gets $6M to be a backup

    Tjack at $4M was a great bargain. And he never whined.

  43. bird_spit says:

    Yeah, M&C, Flynn should be so POed that he calls his agent, and you know what the agent tells him? Buddy, you’re under contract, making great dollar..there is nothing I or you can do about.

  44. Watching last weeks game just to watch Sweezy run blocking. The kid is tenacious and fun to watch. What a story.

    I’m still not so sure he’s a starter for opening day, though. He has never had to protect a QB during the regular season, and hasn’t faced a pass rush like the Cardinals will bring. I’m hoping Moffit will be ready to go.

    I’m also wondering if Sweezy’s future may be at LG where Cable likes his more mobile guard?

  45. freedom_X says:

    Who are all those other players (especially QB’s) playing with a torn pec? I can’t name any. Many players would just sit back and wait for themselves to heal 100%.

    Just like height, salary is all relative. $50,000/year is vast riches in many areas of Africa, but here in the U.S. tons of people call in sick or dog it at work because they believe it’s chump change.

    By the same token, many multi-millionaire athletes dog it. Do I actually have to list them? So I don’t care if Tarvaris Jackson was making $4 million/year. There are plenty of pro athletes who make more who dog it.

    In fact, in many cases, the big payday is why many players dog it – they’ve hit the jackpot and are now coasting. Baseball and the NBA are loaded with them because of the guaranteed contracts. Check out Dez Bryant for an NFL example.

    So I respect anyone who earns their salary, be it $9.75/hr or $4 million/year. It’s far from the case that everyone gives their all to earn their paycheck.

  46. Wow, Jason Smith traded for Wayne Hunter! How far the Rams have fallen. How far the Jets have fallen. And isn’t it amazing how many top-10 draft picks end up being busts? Smith was the second player drafted in 2009, traded for Hunter who was a bust for a 3rd rounder.

  47. Torn pec – who knows- played injured MANY! Look at Hawthorne last year – had no knees by mid-season. Didn’t complain Lofa in the past same deal – you can find a player on every NFL team playing hurt.

    and yes you can find a guy on every NFL team dogging it. But so far you can’t say you have ever seen Lynch dog it and he got his payday (granted not regular season yet – but wouldn’t play that way)

    Red playing hard after his payday

    is Manning Dogging it? Ed Reed – Troy Polomalu?

  48. MattandCindy says:

    xcman & bird_spit – Appreciate the feedback, guys! Good looking out!!!

    Gotta say, you guys pretty much echoed my sentiments exactly. I would think that having someone “passed over” (or whatever term you wanna use) would just keep him pissed. He’ll practice, watch film, do his homework…but he’s not going to do so whole heartedly. A man waiting for an injury, or a horrible showing from his team mate is someone who gets more and more jaded as time goes by.

  49. MattandCindy says:

    And ur right xcman. I’d venture to say at least HALF of the players playing right now have some form of injury, but push through it.

    On the flip side, there is a growing group of “play till paid” players who get the contract…and basically phone it in or feign injury.

    I’m not there, and these are my opinions. But some of these “players” just straight phone it in when us fans clamor for they’re best.

  50. SandpointHawk says:

    *I don’t believe any QB under 6′ has done that. Brees would likely be the shortest at 6′ even

    Joe Theismann won Super Bowl XVII, claimed to be 6’0″,and of course Fran Tarkenton, who also claimed to be 6’0″ lost 3 times( VII, IX, & XI). Other than those, I can’t seem to recall any others of the top of my head win or loose.

  51. freedom_X says:

    Don’t we praise Hawthorne, Tatupu, and Polomalu for playing despite their pains? Do we ever say “big deal, they’re just doing what they’re paid to do?”

    If someone said that about those guys, then sure, I can see why they’d say Jackson is just doing what he’s supposed to.

    Funny though, I’ve never seen many, if any, of those comments directed at anyone else other than Tarvaris Jackson on this blog.

  52. SandpointHawk says:

    Interesting to perhaps only me. Both Josh Brown (Jets) and Olindo Mare (Panthers) were cut yesterday….

  53. Some of those players listed were actually good. Jackson sucks. Good riddance!

  54. bird_spit says:

    None of those guys played with an injury that was as extensive. In fact Lofa shut it down couple years ago with essentially the same injury. ( though really none of us have all of the facts of these injuries).

    It is kind of pathetic to continue to spew this crap at a player that is not even on the radar. I am now pretty sure Curryisabust” really is bobbyk. Neither could let it go..the personality trait of both is the same.

  55. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    lmao bobby, that dead horse went to glue factory….let it alone.

  56. montanamike2 says:

    I hope we can keep Jeron Johnson and Vai Taua, both looked good in the pre season taking that next step. JJ looks like a solid backup strong safety and VT moving to FB gives the team a backup for M Rob or another power running back if called upon. I like PC’s approach that most players have to have flexibility.

  57. boycie99 says:

    Bobby, you are better than that dude, in the end you just lose any credibility you may have.

    Tjack has gone, move on please.

  58. sluggo42 says:

    T-Jack always gave 100%, his problem was that he only contained 60% of the grey matter required for the position.

    Bashing a man for giving 100% is kind of a cheap shot in my view of the world, and getting old.

    I am 5-10, 210, and I was always the little guy, but I still hung with the bigger guys, so it wasn’t ever an issue.

    “Front row Russ” is build like a little truck in case any of you are wondering, so he will be able to take a hit as well as any oth QB, regardless.

    He plays nothing like “dog killer”, and shouldn’t be compared, and I this it’s only because he is black, which is a stupid reason to compare the two.

    As far as playing hurt goes, have any of you who are calling players out for not playing hurt, have you ever had some type of chest injury??
    It’s not as easy as y’all seem to think.

    This is a pretty funny blog to read cuz there are so many armchair crybabies who think they know everything and spew out much much hot air, I think they just like to see their name on the board…

    Flynn pissed?? uhhh, ya think? But CW with the coloring book was a funny thought…

  59. boycie99 says:

    Bobby, Tjack sure wasnt the best QB the Hawks have ever had but I can only presume youre continued bitching is due to the fact the 2 free agents youve nailed your colors too and told this board what a treat we are in for have been nothing but a massive dissapointment. Flynn gets beat out by a Rookie all be it a very special one and you moan that its everyones fault but Flynn’s, the coaches for the game plan, the WR for the drops…. In the end the dude wasnt just good enough.

    The Rice who by all your posts was the second coming, well the dude cant stay healthy and so far hasnt shown the Hawks anything and has just cost a fortune to lie on the treatment table.

    If I had made such a fuss about two failures so far I dont think id be bitching and moaning about a QB who played the best to his ability to help us and didnt cry when his elbow or pec was sore regardless of what I thought of him

  60. Dukeshire says:

    Sandpoint – Exactly.

    Few things miss the point more than a group of internet bloggers compairing themselves and their relative height and weight to the world class athletes in the NFL.

  61. sluggo42 says:

    Dukeshire –

    Not comparing skills, just stats
    different levels of athleticism, but still comparable. Certainly you played sports so you should know this…

  62. jchawks08 says:

    I think BobbyK just continues on T-Jack because he thinks it’s his thing. Maybe he thinks it’s funny because everyone else thinks it’s annoying? Anyway, it’s childish and stupid, so maybe we should ignore it and it will eventually go away.

    And yes, the CW/Coloring Book was the best line I’ve ever seen on this blog! :D

    And yes, people comparing their respective heights and abilities to anyone in the NFL are just….for the lack of wanting to use a more offensive term, silly.

  63. sluggo42 says:

    Where are you guys reading into a comparison with NFL “abilities”?

    Respective heights yes, abilities no. Don’t read into what isn’t there, and then make disparaging comments about it.

  64. I don’t understand.

    Why would Scooter(RW), do this for Danny O’Neil?

    This guy is way more deserving.

  65. jchawks08 says:

    Sluggo, the point was that you absolutely cannot compare Russell Wilson and his heighth to anything you or anyone else on this blog has ever done in our respective amateur sporting careers. Unless you were a 5’10 5/8th QB that played in the NFL? If that’s the case then I’ll take it back.
    This guy is a freak of nature.

  66. sluggo42 says:

    JC, point taken..

    my point was that I felt he wasn’t limited by his height. And also that his “bulk” was sufficient to also not be a detriment to his upcoming success.

    I never intended to compare abilities with the guy. But I have played different sports, baseball and football, and I have always felt that height wasn’t a measure of how well a guy could ball, especially when we aren’t talking more than a few inches.

    You guys seem to think I’m comparing my skills with the guy, and yes, that is pretty funny. Actually this arguement is funny, so I think I’m about done with it…

  67. jchawks08 says:

    HA! Yea ditto.. I was done with it halfway through my last post, but continued on anyway.. Ah the things us fans will discuss sometimes. Must still be the silly season. Opening Kickoff can’t get here soon enough.

  68. orbeavhawk says:

    RW = “Russeller”

  69. Dukeshire says:

    Slugo – yes I did play sports. Played baseball through college, which maybe why I find these comparisons absurd. One would think playing sports would help teach the significant difference. Those comparing their size to Wilson’s carries with it an implied disregard. Simply said, our height and weight has nothing to do with the NFL. in addition, I challenge you to find a QB of Wilsons stature that has won a Super Bowl. He would breaking new ground.

  70. freedom_X says:

    The funny thing about QB height – why is it a problem? Mainly because of field vision concerns, if I’m not mistaken. A shorter QB can’t see downfield as well because they can’t see over the traffic.

    But, something like this can be easily quantified. It would be easy to build a 3D model to simulate the sightlines of a QB of a given height, many combinations of the obstructions to their vision, and definitively determine the field of vision the QB would have. There’s nothing subjective at all to this, it’s just physical modeling.

    Modeling this is important because how else can you verify that height has an impact? A short QB has never become tall, so they can’t validate it, and a tall QB has never suddenly lost 5″ of height. So what a QB can see from the pocket cannot be validated even by first-hand experience. Some tall QB’s have trouble seeing downfield, so unless a person can compare from both perspectives, it’s not a valid observation.

    Perhaps Schneider has been clever and already modeled this and determined that there isn’t a big impact. Or others have and determined it is. Has anyone done a model study like this?

  71. bbnate420 says:

    MF may be pissed, but he isn’t going anywhere. Good chance he could be traded in the off-season if RW tears it up this year.

    Yes, RW would probably be the shortest/smallest QB to win a SB, maybe. The heights and weights weren’t as regimented back ion the old days before the combine. Bart Starr weighed less than RW. RW is very compactly built and solid as hell IMO. He looks more stout than Brees to me. Besides, there is a lot more than goes into being injury-prone than size. Flexibility might be the most important. It’s really more of a mental barrier for the public I believe since most other QBs are 6’2″ or more. Even though Brees is only about an inch taller than RW, people seem to make a big deal of it. If there had been a lot of short QBs playing throughout the modern history of the NFL, which there hasn’t, then the fact that none listed under 6 foot would be a bigger deal.

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