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Carroll: Rice will play vs. Chiefs

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 22, 2012 at 1:17 pm with 119 Comments »
August 22, 2012 1:17 pm

Pete Carroll started the press conference with a big announcement – the Seattle Seahawks will wear the Wolf Grey pants on Friday on the road against the Kansas City Chiefs on Friday.

Seattle wore blue pants with the road white jerseys against Denver last week.

“I thought you guys would really want to know that,” joked Carroll. “And you heard it here first.”

But seriously, the big news of the day was Carroll announcing that receiver Sidney Rice will play on Friday against Kansas City for the first time in exhibition play.

“We’re anxious to see him get out there,” Carroll said about Rice. “He’s had a fantastic process getting back. He’s done everything we’ve asked him to do. He’s practicing really, really well. And so we’ll get him a little bit of play time just to break the ice on that one.”

Also, according to Carroll, tight end Zach Miller has recovered from a concussion he suffered two weeks ago against Tennessee, and will play on Friday.

Carroll said the biggest story in camp so far has been the ascension up the depth chart of seventh round draft choice J.R. Sweezy, who will get his second start at right guard against Kansas City.

“It’s really surprising that a guy can compete like he’s competing,” Carroll said. “He had a very good game in the second game. And so that may be week to week. So we’re anxious to see J.R. play again with the first group.”

Quarterback Matt Flynn took limited reps in practice today. Carroll said that they just wanted to rest Flynn’s arm heading into this weekend.

“We just wanted to keep him out for one day of throwing before the weekend, so we did that,” Carroll said.

So will Flynn’s tired arm affect his ability to play on Friday?

“No, not at this point at all,” Carroll said.

Some tidbits

* Offensive lineman Edawn Coughman moved over to the defensive side of the ball and worked with the defensive lineman today.

“I saw him in a little drill over here helping the offensive guys and he showed a little quickness,” Carroll said. “So I thought we’d give him a look today. So we put him on film rushing the passer. He played a little bit in his history. He has very good quickness. And he’s done a really nice job growing on offense. But I’m not ready to tell you he’s a two-way performer yet.”

* Defensive back Roy Lewis has a knee issue and was not at practice today. Carroll said that Lewis will need surgery to repair the issue, and that it’s a different issue than the knee injury that forced the University of Washington product to being 2011 on the PUP list.

* Carroll said the offensive lineman John Moffitt (elbow) should be out next week ready to practice again.

* Carroll gave us a little more information on Doug Baldwin’s procedure on his hamstring. “They just extracted a little blood out of the hamstring,” Carroll said. “There was a little pocket of stuff. It wasn’t a surgery at all. … They just took some fluid out of his hamstring. And he got immediate relief.”

Carroll said that Baldwin feels much better, and the team is going to wait until next week to get him back on the field.

* Carroll said that undrafted rookie free agent defensive end Cordarro Law is a player that continues to make flash plays during camp. The coaching staff also has tried Law at middle linebacker because of the lack of depth at that position.

“He’s a real active football player,” Carroll said. “He was the second most active guy in camp when we score that. He’s a good football player. … We’re just trying to experiment to see where his range of abilities are.”

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  1. Boy, I hope Rice can stay healthy!

  2. About damn time Rice. Don’t hit him too hard with the ball R-dub. It’s going to be fun getting our front line weapons on the field together and see how they complement each other.

  3. BobbyK should be JAZZED! :-)

  4. bird_spit says:

    Sweezy is a great story, really. He played 1st string last week, and he held his own. He could be the story of the draft if Russ wasnt in the way.

  5. raymaines says:

    Yeah, that’s all well and good, but what about the QB’s?

  6. Seahawks2620 says:

    raymaines- haha.

  7. It’s a big year for Rice. His contract is essentially a 2 year, $18.5m deal and I can’t don’t see them paying him $8.5m/year over each of the next 3 years if he’s not a 1200 yard WR.

  8. raymaines says:

    One of the reasons Doug Baldwin went undrafted out of Stanford is that he was always a little nicked up and not always available to practice or play. He was healthy all last year, but this sort of injury isn’t without precedent. Here’s wishing DB the best.

  9. Sweezy is an unbelievable story, especially with Lutui getting pushed to the sideline to give him playing time. Cable must really believe in him. Did anyone think this year’s team could end up with too many guards?

    Cordarro Law will be interesting to watch this weekend too. One of the most active pass rushers at camp this year and a guy I hope sticks on the PS

    Schneider made some comments recently about Rice needing to ‘learn to fall’, and considering his style of play I’m looking forward to the game when he can lay out, stretch for the ball, hit the ground, and pop up again. We really need him.

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Rice- just stay healthy.

  11. montanamike2 says:

    STTBM i’m scouting if anybody has the game in helena on friday, this game is huge!
    We get a glimpse of our QBOTF. If not it’s radio stream only, sorry.

  12. Excited about Rice. This will be the first time that our first team quarterback will actually be throwing to his top receiver. Should make Wilson’s job easier than what Flynn had, I would think. There’s no reason Wilson can’t now take the job and run with it for 10-12 years.

  13. So Wilson gets an advantage over Flynn — throwing to Rice. Flynn got to throw to TO five times. If TO had caught that TD pass, how different some people’s impressions of Flynn would be.

  14. RDPoulsbo says:

    You really have to question if Lutui will even make the team when a 7th round pick who’s never played guard before is taking away his playing time.

    Coughman moved to defense to rush the passer should only increase concerns about the pass rush. Why would you be doing this kind of stuff at this stage?

    It’s nice to see Rice back. I’m guessing he’s only going to get a couple series though. Can’t risk injury you know…

  15. sluggo42 says:

    Now I’m sure that some people will cry foul that RW gets to have Rice to throw to, while Flynn had to throw to TO… haha

    I won’t get to watch the game until Monday morning unless I can find a way to get a computer feed… Does anyone know if thats possible?

  16. HawkyHann says:

    On Lynch’s 14 yard run play, Sweezy manhandled his guy(s). He did have a false start though. Love his potential and already think he’s more physical than Moffitt.

  17. Seahawks2620 says:

    Luthier looked great during training camp to me, and in the couple of pre season games that we have seen. I would be surprised if it is a “lutui is performing so terribly that a seventh rounder is being called upon to start”. They sound as if they just love the guy and the progress that he has made.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Very glad Rice will be back. This offense needs him badly, regardless who’s under center.

    So Flynn has a “tired arm”. That can definitely happen and there is probaly nothing more to it than that, but, I can’t help wondering how / if that effected Carroll’s decision to start Wilson this week.

  19. sluggo – You can watch it live on a feed, that’s what I had to do on Saturday for the Broncos game. Someone here referred me to the site, but now I can’t remember it (and will have to ask again the day of the game… lol).

    Nothing in life is ever fair from game to game. Flynn got a bad deal in having to force feed the ball to a 38 year old who doesn’t know the offense or catch. That’s the way it goes. Still, he threw a couple of crap passes that weren’t the fault of Eldorado and there’s nobody to blame there except the man in the mirror. He’s certainly not blameless in opening the door for Wilson to come through. Go Flynn! Or Wilson! Or Both! Go Flyson! Go Wilnn! Or Whoever!

  20. RDPoulsbo says:

    I have to say though, after watching the Denver game, I’m still glad Seattle never got a shot at the Manning sweepstakes. $18 mil this year for a bunch of wobbly floaters? There’s a couple Arizona QBs that can do that for a lot less.

  21. Since I live in L.A. I had to watch the Denver game on (courtesy of bbnate)
    Then I watched it again on NFL network 2 days later.

    It’s not in HD and you have to click to remove pop up ads every 4-5 minutes. But if you don’t want to buy the NFL network live HD feed that’s the only place I know to go..

  22. Since I live in L.A. I had to watch the denver game on
    It’s not in HD and you have to click to remove pop up ads every 4-5 minutes but it’s the only place I know of if you don’t want to pay to see the HD feed from nflDOTcom.

    Otherwise it’s on saturday at midnight on nfl network..

  23. BBnate suggested that site..

  24. Montanamike2-Thanks man, I havent had time to scout it. Youre in Bozeman, right? Depending on work etc, I might be able to truck out there if its not available in Helena. I cant miss that game! What time does it start (Mountain Time of course)?

  25. The only reason I can see that Rice would be better than Owens at this stage would be his familiarity with the offense. But he hasn’t played in 9 months and hasn’t practiced much with Wilson either. I don’t see Rice running past players like Owens did last weekend either.

    In terms of continuity, both of these QBs have been pretty much screwed equally.

  26. chrisj122 says:

    Duke – I heard the same info about Flynn’s arm and I had the exact same thought process. I think it could be a very good possibility.

  27. Meanwhile Edwards to sit out the rest of the preseason and practices. Anyone know why?

  28. Rice had one good year and signed a HUGE contract. I’m not so sure he’s the best WR on this team. Right now, based on last year’s performance, it’s Baldwin.

    Owens can’t catch Bobby? Other than Jerry Rice who has caught more? How about TD’s?

    I know, I know…he drops the ball a lot. He catches it a lot too and still has the speed to blow the top off of defenses and has been catching the ball plenty in practice.

    He should have caught the TD ball thrown by Flynn, no doubt…but seriously, you’re pouting over things not going your way is ridiculous.

    We’re in a better place at every position. Other than having to be right, what would make ya happy for cryin’ out loud?

    I just want us to win.

    Yes, PC probably ‘should’ve’ given Wilson the start but his rationale is OK with me in wanting to see him again with the 1st team offense. Nonetheless, he is in charge…we have more talent on this team than I can ever remember…and they’re not afraid to do things unconventionally.

    Personally, I love it all!


  29. should’ve given him the start in game 2

  30. orbeavhawk says:

    I;m with you JOREB!


  31. chrisj122 says:

    Pete Carroll has been here 3 seasons now and yes we have a better team to show because of what he has done. The defense is way better, faster and exciting. I haven’t been this excited about our D in a long time (expecially when visiting teams get in a 3rd and long situation).

    However in the 3 seasons Pete Carroll has been here the decisions made at QB have been very suspect.
    After the clip board Jesus experiment, I will not just give him the benefit of the doubt!

    Sorry but the way Pete Carroll has handled the QB position since he has been here is absoultly garbage and now regardless who he decides to start is setup for failure!

  32. joereb – What part of my analysis did you not understand about the 2nd pre-season game? What does Owens being the 2nd leading receiver ever have to do with his play last week? Since he’s the 2nd leading receiver ever – does that mean he actually caught those balls last week? I was talking about nothing other than pre-season game #2 and I don’t care what you say/think, he did not catch those passes last week.

  33. Re: Sweezy looking good.

    I may be in my own camp but I watched the game for a second time focusing on line play and of course Sweezy… I focused on the first 4 possessions and I was actually amazed on how bad Sweezy actually was. He got absolutely man handled numerous times and looked incredibly out of place..

    Granted knowing the fact that this is his first time playing this position which is the complete opposite of what he has played for years. That in itself is incredibly amazing, however if Sweezy is our starting RG come week 1 I would be very, very worried….

  34. SandpointHawk says:

    Lord HawksKD, now I have to watch this game yet again and focus on a guard!. Can you give me a quarter and a start minute because I’ve got to admit I don’t watch the O line as a rule. That said i will spin up the DVR again if I don’t have to focus on the QBs and the receivers…Thanks for the heads up….

  35. FleaFlicker says:

    BobbyK, you do realize that “El Dorado” translates to “Golden” or “The Golden One”? I keep thinking you are referring to TaterTot!

    I suggest a new handle for T.O. (respectfully, of course, in the spirit of Seahawks Insider Blog). How about “El Viejo”? Same number of syllables so it won’t mess up your rhyme scheme. It means “Old Man”. Or maybe “Abuelito” for “Little Grandpa”.

  36. Or “El droppo your passo.”

    Attn Montanans. I’m currently in Missoula and read one of you is in Helena and another in Bozeman with maybe another in the Zoo. Went to watch the game at Tamarack on Saturday and had an awesome grass-fed Montana ribeye steak. Best thing I’ve eaten in town in the 2.5 weeks I’ve been here. The only problem was that NFL network was showing the NY squared game and ours was blacked out. As delicious as my meal was the taste of anger polluted it a bit. Then found out that the Press Box(Restaurant/bar) was streaming the game and made it there for the second half. Saved the day.

  37. boucherm says:

    Eric, Pete mentioned Law was the second most active player in camp. Any word on who is the most active?
    Anybody with guesses?

  38. RDPoulsbo says:

    Rewatching the Denver game, Sweezy seems to want to pass protect like a tackle. He gives up too much ground for an interior o-lineman and tries to ride the DT wide. Not a good thing, but then that hasn’t been his strength. He does get better as the game goes on though.

    I think Eric mentioned before that his run blocking is what stands out. He still looks a little green, but he does look undoubtably better at that. When he’s moving forward, he’s good at keeping his man locked up and keeping his man from getting in on the play. He seems lost when getting to the 2nd level, but he is a work in progress and hasn’t reached his potential yet.

  39. GeorgiaHawk says:

    chrisj122- Your opinions on Carroll are pure garbage, imo. He started out slow ,Yes, however he has more than made up for it by signing Flynn and drafting Wilson.

  40. RDPoulsbo says:

    Eldorado is TO’s middle name, no spaces. He needs some “oro” from El Dorado to pay his bills though.

  41. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- I doubt that Flynns tired arm had anything to do with Wilson starting this week. His weak arm would have more to do with it then that.
    But more than likely it has more to do with Wilsons leadership skills and out performing Flynn at this stage.

  42. Soggybuc says:

    I think Deuce will get nod over Sweezy when it goes live. this is a just a way to get JR some trial by fire accelerated learning.
    i’m thinking next year Sweezy will be pushing McQ down the roster and possibly Carpenter out the door.

  43. Singularitarian says:

    Not going to lie, I’ve never been this stoked for a season to start. I knew as soon as Wilson was drafted that he was the answer, it just made sense. watching his games and seing how efficient he was and the hearing people dismis him due to a couple of inches, I almost feel bad for people’s lack of ability to evaluate a situation sometimes. I’m pretty stoked on our offense and think that we have plenty of weapons to be formidable-great. Between our good TE duo, our running game keeping the defense honest, if not stacking the box, and a mobile qb who is safe and effective. Betwen Rice, Baldwin, TO and Edwards, we have some guys with real potential for success. If Wilson gets on the same page as 2 of those cats the sky is the limit. What a great situation for wilson, a strong run game, a great defense and a decent group of recievers, who could ask for anything better, even Dalton didn’t have this good of a situation last year. My prediction, honestly, is that Russell Wilson has the best rookie campaign of any quarterback ever, not named Cam Newton. It’s just a perfect storm. Rookie of the year here we come!!!

  44. GeorgiaHawk says:

    joreb – Rice is not the best WR on the team. Baldwin is! Rice is nothing more than a one year wonder who was lucky enough to have Farve throw him the ball.
    Yes he is great at making the difficult catch, however he has done nothing much since that great year with the Vikings. Talk about hype. Same with Tate the ingrate.

  45. Singularitarian says:

    or maybe Rapeistberger

  46. Dukeshire says:

    Leadership… ? I’ve not heard anything but positive things about Flynn and Wilson’s leadership, both. So i’m skeptical that played a role, here. But my speculation was just that. Little more than a passing thought, but a thought that occurred to me none the less.

  47. ruminator1 says:

    i disagree with those who assert that Wilson should have started game 2. He had not shown in practice the consistency these coaches want in their starter. After game 2, they simply had to find out what they have. Everyone wants Wilson to succeed. I think even PC feels that way. It would be fantastic if he had a spectacular Friday game. But what if he doesn’t? Where will all you folks who are so sure Wilson is the answer be then? This is a process and I for one think Flynn still has a good chance of being the starter The team lost some practice time; PC wants more finite info.

    I am not confident that PC is an entirely rational character when it comes to personnel decisions, by which i mean i think he is something of an impulsive gambler. The fact that he hasn’t jumped into a final decision is a good thing. (I think he jumped on Carpenter and maybe on Irvin). Until it is clear that his decision-making process in the QB sweepstakes is wrong and costly (as some are claiming), I prefer to wait.

  48. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I can see it now, the reason many here will say Wilson wins this job is because he had Rice to play with and Flynn did not. Lol. Anything to keep demeaning our new franchise qb.

    Good thing Wilson isn’t buying into this rubbish.

  49. Dukeshire says:

    Health aside, Rice is far and away the best receiver on the team. From route running, versatility, game speed, in virtually every way. Its not a knock in Baldwin, but when healthy, Rice is one of the most talented receivers in the league.

  50. raymaines says:

    I was a second team guard 50 years ago on a high school team who’s best season in years was mediocre, so you can trust me when I tell you how all of this is going to work out.

    TJack agrees to a pay cut, and then the Seahawks trade………

    Matt Flynn!

    They get a 3rd round pick from a crappy team for MF and the ‘Hawks essentially get RW for a low price free agent contract.

  51. Dukeshire says:

    Criticizing arguments that aren’t being made? Too funny.

  52. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- What I’m saying is I have a hunch, Not a Hutch BobbyK (Lol) that Wilson is winning over the locker room, and that is a very important part of this process, imo.

  53. Dukeshire says:

    That’s fair and may very well be. I actually could see that too.

  54. chrisj122 says:

    Really GeorgiaHawk? Your man crush on Wilson has you twisted.

    So far the method Carroll uses to evaluate QB’s have not worked.

    Clipboard Jesus, then Jackson who was just givin the starting job after releasing a better QB in Hass (please don’t want this debate againg, its over). After realizing Jackson was not going to cut it they went and signed the best QB FA available. They really didn’t have to do much evaluation with Flynn. Then comes the draft and they draft Wilson, some people predict Wilson being a career backup but we will see.

    If a rookie is name starting QB over a guy who is NFL ready, one who can read defenses and go through his progressions. They went out and signed Flynn to be the starting QB and not too see what he can do would be a waste.

    Wilson needs a year to sit and learn and starting him the now this close to the regular season is assbackwards! This takes away valuable reps from Flynn and if Carroll was even considering Wilson to be a starter we should have seen him with the 1st way before now.

    So yes GeorgiaHawk Carroll has swung and missed 2 times at QB position if he miss’s one more time his out! And Yes his method thus far evaluating QB have been garbage. Drafting a QB in the 3rd round does not make up for the other two strikes, if your too infatuated with Wilson to realize that then you need to wake up and smell yourself.

  55. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Duke- You take Rice and I will take Baldwin and we will see where it goes.Lol.
    Hopefully they both have good years.

  56. sluggo42,

    I used to watch the hawks games while I lived in San Diego. It’s free and requires no signup.

  57. Singularitarian says:

    to be perfectly honest I’m not sure the best reciever this year isn’t Edwards or T.O.

  58. Singularitarian says:

    I could see TO catching for a around a thousand should he make the team, I bet him and Wilson have a better connection this week should he play with him at all

  59. GeorgiaHawk says:

    chrisj122- Your going to have a hard time this year watching Wilson on your big screen.
    Is there anything I can do to help you through this?

  60. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Singularitarian- Or Bates! Don’t forget him. Practice squad this year. Starter next year.

  61. raymaines says:

    This for the Matt Flynn supporters, of which I am one:

    The current newest entry at Field Gulls suggests the weakest part of a good KC defense is it’s secondary – – and RW has Rice to throw to. It’s a conspiracy I tell ya.

  62. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Time for a song!

    Just kidding.

  63. Dukeshire says:

    Georgia – Again, I’m not knocking Baldwin, I like him a lot. But Rice is a true #1. Baldwin is developing into a great possession receiver, but he’s not Rice. Again, Rice has to stay healthy, but that aside…

  64. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Look, It’s no secret that Jackson had won over the locker room last year.
    This year it appears that Wilson could be doing the same. Nothing against Flynn, however it will be interesting to see how hard the other players play if they want Wilson or Flynn to be their leader.

  65. Seahawks2620 says:

    To say Rice is not the most talented receiver on this roster is dumb. He clearly is, for all of the reasons duke listed and more. Now, who is more productive? Of course it was Baldwin last year seeing as how he was pretty much entirely healthy, and was able to play an entire season. At the end of the day, Rice is absolutely far superior. He just needs to stay healthy, which the fans will continue to hang over his head until he proves that he can.

    To be honest guys, the Wilson/Flynn argument crap, continues to persist due to comments like “Anything to keep demeaning our new franchise QB” amongst many others that are very similar. We get it, you guys have some serious envy of Wilson. I love the guy, but don’t salivate over the man. He hasn’t proven ONE single legitimate thing in this league.

  66. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- Baldwin is everything you are about. Rethink this. Lol.

  67. Seahawks2620 says:

    Also, all of the assertions that a select few people seem to be making left and right as if they are factual, just stop. No one knows what is going to happen this season. Not even John or Pete. We are a few injuries away on offense, of absolutely imploding on that side of the ball. Let’s all just hope for the best. Pleaseeeeeee please please!

  68. If the “sporty” Russell Wilson can be an effective pocket passer who uses his legs primarily to extend plays then I’m on board. Watching the second half last week was fun. That said I’m high on Flynn as well. This is a healthy competition to have.

    Now only if we had DeCastro up front blocking for them! lol

  69. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Seahawks2620-Who said Rice wasn’t the most talented WR on the team? I said best. Big difference.
    Read the posts right and you won’t look dumb!

  70. I’m gonna have a really hard time taking any of your evaluations seriously if you actually think Baldwin is a better receiver than Rice.

  71. GeorgiaHawk says:

    doogzz- I agree! I’m sure you will have a hard time seeing Wilson and Baldwin lighting it up like Zorn and Largent did. Your probably going through withdrawls now.

  72. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Galena- Don’t even go down the DeCastro road. I’m not even going to say anything more about that. Choked up! Wah Wah Smah Smah Wah Wah!

    Don’t make me write a song about this.

  73. I don’t believe that I said I had any problem with either of those two things. I would love to see that combo goin for the next ten years. That being said there is no way in my eye at this point that Baldwin is a better player/receiver than Rice.

  74. I often use to watch the games. The pop-ups are a pain, but once you go full screen, they disappear. You can also try adblocker on Firefox.

  75. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I was all right for a while, I could smile for a while
    But I saw you last night, under the Stealer light
    As you stopped to say “Hello”
    Aw you wished many well, you couldn’t tell

    That I’d been crying over you, crying over you
    Then you said “so long”. left me standing all alone
    Alone and crying, crying, crying crying
    It’s hard to understand but the thought of you at Right Guard
    Can start me crying.

    I thought that I was over you but it’s true, so true
    I want you even more than I did before but DeCastro what can I do
    Now you are Stealer bound and I am found to be

    Crying over you, crying over you
    Yes, now you’re gone and from this moment on
    I’ll be crying, crying, crying, crying

  76. Hawksince77 says:


    About Rookie-of-the-year. First of all, most rookie QBs that start were drafted high in the first round by bad teams: David Carr/Sam Bradford/Matt Stafford/Alex Smith/Andrew Luck etc. etc. They struggle because they aren’t protected; don’t have offensive weapons, etc. etc. (Cam Newton a major exception, perhaps historically)

    As you piont out, Russell Wilson lands in the perfect place, a team that is good-to-excellent through-out, lacking only a top QB.

    HOWEVER – no matter how well he does in his rookie year, I predict that Andrew Luck has already won it, pretty much no matter what Indy does this year. In addition to the hype he already gets, Seattle has traditionally been outside the range of such considerations. They don’t get the respect, and Wilson won’t get the respect, no matter what.

    And this will simply add to the chip on his shoulder that I suspect will never be fully removed, no matter how many championships he wins.

  77. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BTW- Where is Divs chin- Alias bbnate420- alias Natedog.

  78. I still say go get Wallace!!!!

    I said it earlier too – I am not sure TO makes the final roster. He still has the ability to get open but go back to his Dallas days and later – he makes drops in critical parts of the games – also, if I remember right – if he isn’t involved early he kinda checks out – I believe that was a complaint about him in Philly

    Rice has the highest upside of any WR on the roster – but he has to stay on the field for more than 8 games a year

    IMO it is time for the oft injured guys to hope they are Healthy more often than not.

    ditto for Smith, Konz, Thurmond, McCoy et al. the depth is finally getting to the point where we have the depth to say soo Long to these guys and not have to worry about the Potential they may bring.

  79. montanamike2 says:

    Hi Galena , tommorow i’ll try to find a bar in helena where the game might be at, anyone know of one? Montanahawk?
    We have killer steaks if the beef is local, i hunt so i eat a lot of elk and some whitetails sometimes buffalo. I’m not a hornhunter though so it’s pretty much a young cow or doe.
    Now for those who say that Rice is a one year wonder with Farve, imagine if we had a qb who can place the ball in a catchable window and not lead him into a concussion. Oh wait i think we might have one…..maybe two!
    One more thing, will this Tebow crap ever let up?

  80. Sandpoint – apologies for the late reply but I just watched the 4 first possessions and out of the +20 plus snaps I was underwhelmed/disappointed on about (rough estimate) 15 and neutral on the rest. He didn’t do anything outstanding for a RG.

    Im happy that RD saw some progression throughout the entire game. I didn’t get a chance to watch anymore than I did but here are some specifics.

    Pass pro he was dominated one on one in almost every snap I saw. He had trouble locking up and was thrown around when he attemted to.. I mean thrown AROUND.

    Run Blocking- Some poor cut blocking in where Sweezy actually did a better job at cutting out Unger. A few times with the strong side run Sweezy locked up well but did not maintain control blocking his man directly into Marshawns hole ending the run play…

  81. Singularitarian says:

    77- you are right about the nw bias and the Luck cheerleaders. I really think thy have a tough time this year though and luck has a mediocre season. It’s hard to hide behind numbers though, and I predict enough difference in numbers to be denied

  82. Singularitarian says:

    *to not be denied*

  83. Hawk-u time

    Will you clowns still hate
    If Wilson is the business?
    Ask yourself hawk fans.

    Real recognize real
    Run with us or run from us
    Haters gonna hate.

  84. raymaines says:

    As for oft injured WR’s: Why not have four or five of then on the roster? That way at least two, maybe three of them will be available at any given time. Cool!

  85. Not a bad idea – especially if we didn’t have to cut to 53!

  86. chrisj122 says:

    GeorgiaHawk – I apppreciate the generous offer to help me through this, whatever “this” is but regardless it’s much appreciated.

    Yes, I will be watching the Hawks and I will root for my team regardless who’s the QB.
    The question is will you after you realize Matt Flynn will be the starting QB or will your man-crush on Wilson prevent you from doing so.

    Flynns arm is a little sore and tired so Pete says “hey Matt we will let the kid start this one, take it slow this week. We need you ready and able week 1 in AZ”.

  87. Galena-Holy crap am I pissed! Press box told my bro and me they couldnt turn the game sound on, it was just TOO HARD–and they didnt have the game anyway! So we tried 6 other bars in Missoula trying to find the game! No luck. So we went home to visit my parents. And in the third quarter, we lost radio reception. Are you telling me that the shittyyy Press Box had the game the whole time?!! Aaargh!

    I will end up spending a few weekends this year in various Montana cities, so whoever lives there better holler and help me find which freakin bars have the game!

    God I hope I dont miss Fridays, or Im gonna be SICK!

  88. HawksKD – yeah I watched the line play a lot in camp and I agree with you. I don’t think Sweezy is out-competing Lutui. Lutui looks like a pro OG and Sweezy looks, well, raw. But it seems Cable wants Sweezy on the roster since he’s giving him the preseason work, and that’s a a big story even if he doesn’t play this year. I would expect we’ll see Moffitt back at RG by opening day.

  89. raymaines says:

    In less than 48 hours the DangeRuss Wilson era will have begun. How could I have been so foolish to think MF would be the better QB this year?

    I think when Matt Flynn was signed, PC really believed he (MF) would be the starter and everything PC did after that summer signing was done to respect TJack and keep the locker room under control. PC simply knew MF would be the starter and TJ would be either history or the backup.

    Then came the April draft.

    RW was a value pick in the third round and he has been so good that that he has forced his way into the starting QB competition. After TJ was proven to be the third best QB, RW went on to prove he could actually be the starter.

    Now we’re looking at the third game of the preseason and the possibility that a midget rookie could be the game one starter.

    Every eye in Seahawk nation will be glued to the TV for three hours on Friday night, and the blogs will be on fire for at least 72 hours after the game ends. Personally, I hope MF wins, but what I really want is for the Seahawks to win a Superbowl.

  90. You can stream every preseason game live or on demand on for $15 for all of the preseason. That is how I watch the games.

  91. bbnate420 says:

    Goergia, I don’t have any aliases! I only brought up Div’s chin because he talks shit all the time about E Dub’s weight, when he looks like he’s been packin them on as well. I’m not the skinniest dude, but I have lost 20 lbs in the last 4-5 months. I’m just tryin to stick up for our man Eric Williams.

  92. bbnate420 says:


  93. bbnate420 says:

    Anyways, this game on Friday will be interesting to say the least! I don’t know why everyone is wigging out? Just enjoy the ride for now. There will be PLENTY of time during the reg season to whine!

  94. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    God, I miss Tacoma and watching Seahawks games on T.V. I watch all of the Seahawks games on It’s free. It will make you wait for about 15 seconds, and endure as many pop-ups as they can get in during that time, but after that it’s not bad. If you maximize the screen size you can watch the entire game without further pop-ups. Otherwise, there may, or may not be, pop-ups: it just depends on what stream you use.

  95. bbnate420 says:

    I’ve been a little busy, Georgia. That’s why you haven’t seen me. There’s been too many posts 4 me to scroll through. All the the readers have come out of the woodwork. I’m sick of arguing QBs as well. After this week, we will know a lot more. The more I see of RW, the more I like him. I honestly hope he starts now. But I still think Flynn could be a decent QB for us.

  96. montanamike2 says:

    Wow today i’m physically exhausted, i’ll try to take it easy and take it easy on the scraping/sanding/painting today.
    STTBM if you’re closer to Bozeman then come see the game at the hideaway lounge with our faithful hawks section. We get all regular season games, if not my neighbor/friend is a hawks fan and has NFL package on directv. This offer extends to all hawks friends who aren’t trolls.

  97. bbnate420 says:

    This has nothing to do with anything, but it’s one of the best songs ever!

  98. montanamike2 says:

    bbnate420 you’d like our group as well.

  99. bbnate420 says:

    That sounds good, montanamike2. Unfortunately, I still live in Tacoma. Actually, fortunately. I get 2 see the games on TV and I will be at the GB Mon night game and probably at least 1 more.

  100. bbnate420 says:

    I love the NW. I hope I never have to move 4 work!

  101. GeorgiaHawk says:

    This is great news! I can’t wait to see a healthy Rice back out on the field with a qb that can get him the ball in space.

    “He is ahead of schedule,” Carroll said. “He’s applied himself so well and has done a great job in the weight room. He’s never been pumped like this before. He’s feeling really confident out there, and we are all looking forward to it.”

  102. montanamike2 says:

    Georgia how far from Atlanta are you? I know i asked you before but i don’t remember.

  103. bbnate420 says:

    Georgia lives next to the Squid Billies!!!!!!!!!!!

  104. montanamike2 says:

    bbnate420 I lived in Tacoma for 7 years, i have no idea why they have so many excellent restaraunts in that area. I used to love going to point defiance too.

  105. GeorgiaHawk says:

    bbnate420- congratulations on the weight loss. I have about 20 lbs or sooooo that I need to lose myself.

    I’m also getting tired of defending the little guy around here. I would be doing the same for Flynn if I felt he was getting jabbed and bashed like Wilson has since he got drafted.
    I’m going to take a break from this qb thing. It makes me tired.

  106. tazzmann says:

    why is flynn’s arm needing rest from handing the ball off or overthrowing his recievers ? what a boring offense we will have if he is the starter when the season opens

  107. Dukeshire says:

    I keep reading, from several posters, about all the Wilson bashing going on here, and how they are defending him. From where does that narrative stem, because it simply doesn’t exist, en mass, here. It’s such an odd self-victimization. Carroll’s been taking some for the way he’s handled the QB situation, but I’m not seeing all the posts that are critical of Wilson to the point where some tire from having to defend him.

    tazzman – Cleaver post, but exactly what receivers has he been overthrowing?

  108. GeorgiaHawk says:

    montanamike2- I live on the cutting edge of the suburbs and the mountains, ( what we would call hills out west ) about 45 miles north of atlanta in Canton Ga.

    If you have never been out this way Sept-Oct is a good time to do it. The drive north of here through the Great Smokies is something to see anytime, and especially in the fall.

  109. montanamike2 says:

    I would probably fly in. I can stay at the military base hotel for cheap but i want to see the zoo and of course a hawks game. Probably early October. Still sad about Ivan the gorilla.

  110. RDPoulsbo says:

    I really don’t get the victimization line either. I’ve never said anything about Wilson’s height or anything like that. The only thing I’ve ever said that could even be halfway construed as knocking Wilson is he’d probably benefit from 1 year as a backup before revisiting the QB competition. Then again, I’ve said that for any potential rookie QB coming into Seattle for some time now. They’ve had and still do have an opportunity to give any rookie QB the best chance to succeed by starting a veteran while the rookie learns. That has been shown to be statistically better than trial by fire.

  111. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Not en mass as far as the number of posters Dukeshire. Just a few here that have been around awhile that post often.
    And since the day he was drafted you have been part of that few. Yes you Dukeshire.
    Mabey it’s because you still feel that this was a wasted pick like you did when we drafted him. Or some other reason. I don’t know.
    However I think you have been slowly warming up to him since the draft.
    Good thing.

  112. GeorgiaHawk says:


    When I moved to Atlanta there was a famous Gorilla here named Willie B.
    Because of him the Atlanta Zoo has pretty much transformed from one of worst to one of the best.

    I know, not football related but I bet that Willie B would have made a great defensive tackle.

  113. loadlock says:

    If the ol can protect this kid(rw) I beleave he can take the Hawks to a very good future. He shows great decision making and seams to have a better than average arm Go hawks

  114. Dukeshire says:

    Georgia – You are 100% wrong about that. Bashing a person would resemble something like this: “Georgia is a moron who has been consistently dumbbing this blog down since the day he first posted. He’s a moron.” While I criticized the pick I have also been consistent in saying (paraphrasing): “I think Wilson will be a journeyman or career backup. But I will gladly admit it if I’m wrong.” And during this preseason, things like “He will have to learn to become a pocket passer and not evacuate the pocket so quickly, to have success. And as the game slows down for him which I expect it to, I see no reason he won’t develop that…” And after his 1st game against Tenn: “He deserves reps with the 1s against Denver.” Perhaps you consider criticisms the same as bashing. I do not. I don’t think you do either simply because of you various criticisms of Carroll, FO, etc… Simply said, you’re barking up the wrong tree if you think I’ve been “bashing” Wilson.

  115. bird_spit says:

    I agree with the poster that we have all season to bitch and moan about the QBs. That said, do you guys remember Pete marveling about Wilson’s arm strength and endurance on the weekend the rookies reported to OTA. For Pete to point to publicly point out that Flynn’s arm needs rest is telling me to prepare for the announcement. After only one half of play time per game Flynn’s arm is in need of rest? The rookie has only played half per game, and I believe he has at least equal play count in these games.

  116. bird_spit says:

    I would not be surprised if we see a Q of TJack.

  117. bird_spit says:

    The fact hat Cable is starting Sweezy tells you they are accelerating his development. I would not doubt that he is on the PS after cut down, and this is nothing more than preparing depth at RG.

    It is also is a great way to evaluate the QB since he is expected to scramble when the pocket breaks down. Everyone criticizing Pete needs to lineup how they would of done things differently. This OL has the luxury to develop a guy like Sweezy, only because the priority 2-3 years ago was the OL… PC will bring us a Super Bowl, given time. Anyone ready to publicly bet against that?

  118. Patches_Pal says:

    Schneider and Carroll just keep coming up with players out of no where. Wilson, Sweezy, Cordaro Law, TO, they will find them if they are out there and plug them in and let them play. The assistant coaches like Cable just keep coaching guys up. I love it. They have really improved the depth on this team in a short while. Schneider said they wanted a roster where other teams would come after their guys and they seem to have down that after getting something for Ruud.

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