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Morning links: Evaluation time for T.O.

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 17, 2012 at 9:17 am with 47 Comments »
August 17, 2012 9:17 am
Seattle Seahawks' Terrell Owens during NFL football training camp, Wednesday, Aug. 8, 2012, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

Matt Bowen of the National Football Post writes that he’ll be watching Terrell Owens in his debut with the Seattle Seahawks this Saturday at Denver.

Specifically, Bowen says he’ll be watching how Owens accelerates out of breaks to see if he can consistently create separation, and can he get open on a fade route against press coverage.

Bowen: Can he still make plays? That’s really the question here. I can talk about routes, releases and technique all day, but Saturday night is more about the chance for Owens to showcase his skill set. Put together a couple big plays and he will get people talking.”

Here’s my story on the debut of Terrell Owens and a wrap-up of training camp.

Clare Farnsworth of names the secondary the best unit in training camp in his annual camp honors.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times talks with offensive line coach Tom Cable about Russell Okung’s return from his pectoral injury. Cable: “The thing that’s changed for him is how detailed he has become. I thought before, he was a really talented guy who knew he was talented. In this league, there’s so much more to it. And I think with great respect to him, he has really succumbed to that. That it’s not about where they picked me. It’s not about what my talent is. It’s about what I put into it. He has done a marvelous job.”

John Boyle of the Everett Herald writes that special teams standout Roy Lewis want to develop into a regular player on Seattle’s defense.

Derek Stephens at evaluates the play of Seattle’s draft picks in the team’s first preseason game against Tennessee. Stephens says that Russell Wilson performed the best out of all the rookies, but that seventh rounder J.R. Sweezy exceeded expectations. Some solid, unvarnished analysis here.

Paul Kenyon of the Providence Journal writes that Deion Branch has lost his starting job to Brandon Lloyd, and is now fighting for a roster spot.

Kellen Winslow Sr. has been named vice president for athletics at Division III Lakeland College in Wisconsin.

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  1. I really don’t see T.O. sticking to the roster. As long as Braylon plays well, the team will choose the younger guy with a few years left in the tank over T.O. who would be lucky to play another season. And with T.O. being 38 and 1 year removed from the NFL, I doubt he will outshine anyone else.


    Protest putting neon green on our unis by going here:

  2. SeventiesHawksFan says:

    Sturm, you are betting against a receiver who is still in possession of all of his physical gifts and tools, can run a sub-4.5 and is one of the best to ever play the game. And who can still flat out get open and get the ball into the end zone. And you are betting against a guy who is emerging as the clearly best option to fill in for an oft-injured Rice.

    And who is a difference maker in goal line and third down situations (an area where we have struggled and the young guys simply aren’t going to be on the field in those situations). Not only with the plays he can make himself, but also for how the defensive coverages and looks will adjust for the other receivers also on the field. Meaning more single coverages for Baldwin, Rice, Tate, or a linebacker left in space in the middle of the field on Winslow or Miller.

    He also gives PC an viable option for something we’ve seen very little of from his offense: 4 and 5 receiver sets. Or disguised 4 and 5 sets with the tight ends on the field. We simply didn’t have the personnel or O-Line to have run that play very often.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think PC will ever make 4 and 5 wides a common thing. It’s not his style and counter to his overall philosophy. But EVERY coach wants the option.

    And TO gives you that option on tight field with the ball on the opponent’s twelve yard line. Or when it’s third and eleven and you can afford to take a reasonable shot at it with the ball placed at the opponent’s 45. Situations that you don’t want to use a Lockette or Durham for.

    Also, I think PC believes the Hawks should make the playoffs this year and win at least one game against San Fran, which possibly puts the division title in play. Part of the ‘plan’ will be to keep Rice healthy for the post season. Meaning if you can win without putting him on the field as often, then you do that. TO becomes rather valuable under than scenario.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    Speaking of uniforms, their practice unis are *far and away* better than their game units, if not simpler.

  4. jchawks08 says:

    Agreed about the uniforms. Ugh. Who approved these?!?!?!?!

  5. SaigonSun says:

    I think there are few quality players on this team that will not make the final roster ( Toomer,Cordero Law, the three rookie WRs,maybe Guy, Lane, etc….)It is a shame.
    In my opinion, the one that doesn’t belong with our team is OC Bevell. The only time he ever shone was when Favre was his QB ( even I can look like a football genious if Brett Favre was my signal-caller). Honestly, I’d trade Bevell,Mr.Fragile and T-Jack for a corned beef sandwich; and cut Obo and Durham. The “Ex-Vikings experiment” didn’t work out. Obo as a ST player can be replaced with the best rookie WR and stash the other two on PS.

  6. FleaFlicker says:

    Can only speak for myself here, but I’m rooting for T.O. Who doesn’t like a redemption story? He’s been a serious diva for most of his life, but as somebody said, the guy’s NEVER been a legal/ethical question mark.

    Yet, as Eric writes, it’s on him to prove he belongs here. All the 40 yd times and route running in shells doesn’t mean anything if he can’t produce on the field. Come on, T.O., show us something great tomorrow night.

  7. I’m not rooting against Eldorado but I am rooting for Rice, Tate, and Baldwin to become the great trio I know they can/will become if Rice can stay healthy.

    I’ve read crazy comments like Rice isn’t as good as we think he is or that guys like Jordy Nelson are better than him (LMAO). When healthy (those are two key words) he’s as good as there is and is only a notch below a guy like Fitz. Must stay healthy.

    Eldorado is the perfect player to be depth for Rice if he misses time (which, unfortunately, we can’t count on like many other players). If we have Eldorado, assuming he still has something left in the tank, I think that he, Tate, and Baldwin still make a really good trio.

    I really don’t care about the other WRs with respect to making a significant contribution this season. I know Edwards has great talent, but he scares me.

    I know Eldorado will drop some passes too, but if his head is screwed on straight, I also think he’s a guy that can put fear into defenses (with that 40 time) and help put others in better position to be successful (I don’t see this from Edwards). He’s also a great blocker and I haven’t forgotten what a guy like Jurevicius did to help the ’05 team with respect to run blocking too.

    Lastly, I couldn’t believe it the other day when reading that Lockette is older than many of our WRs. Crazy. I assumed/thought he was about 23 or something.

    Flynnsanity and the Seahawks Dynasty has begun, only the rest of America doesn’t know it yet!

  8. If you don’t know Desperado by the Eagles, well, then you won’t get this (even if you do, may still think it’s still dumb).

    Eldorado, why don’t you come to your senses?
    You been out of the league for so long now
    Oh, you’re a hard one
    I know that in Philly you had your reasons
    These things that are pleasin’ you
    Can hurt you somehow

    Don’t you run the wrong slante route, boy
    The corner will beat you if he’s able
    You know Mr. Happy and Flynn is your new best bet

    Now it seems to me, some fine things
    Have been laid upon your table
    But you only want the ones that you can’t get

    Eldorado, oh, you ain’t gettin’ no younger (38)
    Your pain and your hunger, they’re drivin’ you home
    And play-offs, oh play-offs well, that’s just some people talkin’
    Your prison is not playing in this league all alone

    Don’t your feet get cold in the winter time?
    The sky won’t snow and the sun won’t shine
    It’s hard to tell the night time from the day
    You’re losin’ all your sharpies and reality shows
    Ain’t it funny how the media goes away?

    Eldorado, why don’t you come to your senses?
    Come down from Dallas, Buffalo, and Cincinnati, open the gate
    Seattle may be rainin’, but there’s a rainbow above you
    You better let somebody sign you, before it’s too late

  9. Dave Boling says:

    Applause, Bobby K!

    He’ll be appearing at the Seahawks Insider Lounge every night. Don’t forget to tip your waitress!

  10. princeaden says:

    If the Seahawks are convinced that their Dynasty is to truly begin this year, I see no way that both TO and Edwards don’t make the team. In my mind WR is one of the easier roster spots to improve quickly. I.E. guys like Durham, Lockette, Martin and even Baldwin will be able to be picked out of the drafts later rounds and developed.

  11. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Good one Bobbyk!

    I agree our secondary is the best unit in camp, and also the best secondary in the NFL.

    Dam! Check out the Bam block by Kam! in the video below. I think around the 1:53 mark. Brings back some good memories from last year.

  12. bbnate420 says:

    What, no credit for posting Lockette’s age, BobbyK. :-)

  13. bbnate420 says:

    Jesus, did Timmy just roll out of bed for that photo?

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Happy hour is going to start real soon for me today if the darn Directv installer doesn’t show up by 4pm eastern time. This is the forth one to come out here now in the last year.
    I will tell story later after a few.

  15. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “fourth”. Really, I haven’t started yet. Lol.

  16. bbnate420 says:

    It’s after 2, that’s late enough for a Friday.

  17. nate – I couldn’t remember who said that (you) but was shocked when I saw that. It seems like Rice has been in the league forever and when I realized he was older than Rice, that was mind boggling (even though Rice is still pretty young).

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK- I hope everything you say about Baldwin, Rice and Tate come true. However when I find myself using the word hope the chances of things happening the way I want usually doesn’t happen, unfortunately.

    nate- True! It is Friday. Yes!

  19. bbnate420 says:

    I was shocked too. I was trying to find out if he was PS eligible when I saw that. Hopefully, they can sneak him on the PS for one more year.

  20. Georgia: bobbyk = man crush on a healthy Sidney Rice (getting his gord rung 3 times last year really worries me though). I saw so many crazy good things he did/could do in MN when he was here and we only got a glimmer of that last year, unfortunately. I hope he doesn’t become Nate Odoms or Chris McIntosh.

  21. orbeavhawk says:

    “God Bless America! and God Bless the Seattle SeaHawks!”
    Cortez Kennedy

  22. GeorgiaRay says:

    While I’m not hating the new unis as much as some, I do agree that a more “traditional” look would be great…

  23. GeorgiaHawk says:

    All I ask is that they get Rice the ball in space. No need to put him in a tough catch position most of the time. (Even though he is the best at making the tough catch Imo). Just save those tough catches when the game is on the line, and for the playoffs and SuperBowl.

    Still waiting for the Directv guy and it’s after 4pm. I bet he comes up with some lame excuse,(being Friday afternoon) so I have to re-schedule.

  24. RDPoulsbo says:

    I guess the good thing about the new unis are the numbers look like pretty good reflectors. So if you’re walking around in one at night, cars should be able to see you.

  25. HonHawksLSB says:

    The new uniforms are AWESOME, although Matt Flynn must feel a bit awkward coming from Plain Jane Green Bay! Look good, feel good, play good!!

  26. bird_spit says:

    Are for sure it’s not HonHawksLSD?

  27. HonHawksLSB says:

    HAHA… Funny bird! Watch, this is going to be a trend in the NFL, much like how everyone thought Oregon uniforms looked terrible (me being one of them, but that’s because I’m a Dawg). Now everyone loves them.

    I use the wife meter when it comes to fashion. Wife likes it, must be trend setting. She went to FIDM (Fashion Institute of Design).

  28. Dukeshire says:

    “Look good, feel good, play good!!” Well, this season is in the tank, then.

    Yes RD, The new jerseys would be awesome for road-work crews.

  29. Hammajamma says:

    New Jerseys: Gone from meh, to maybe. I’d like to see some other combinations. Can we get away from the all black shoes, though? Flynn, with his enormous helmet and dark feet looks like he should be standing in line at a Star Wars movie.

  30. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I just read Derek Stephens at analisis of the rookies in pre season game one. I thought it was pretty good stuff.

  31. “Flynn, with his enormous helmet and dark feet looks like he should be standing in line at a Star Wars movie.”


    He looks like an emperial trooper.

    I hated the jerseys when they came out and have warmed up to them quite a bit. However, I still wish they would have gone back to a more traditional, yet modernized, look. Oh well, I’m gonna root for them the same no matter what!

  32. bbnate420 says:

    I’d be happy if they at least took the puke green feathers off of the pants. I can live with the green on the sleeves. I almost like the green border on the numbers. That’s the only green they should keep.

    Like I said before, they will change when it hurts the bottom line. Don’t buy them if they are really that bad to you. Money talks and BS walks.

  33. I wonder how the “younger” generation feels about the new uniforms. My 25 yr old son seems to like them a lot, so makes me wonder if those of us around 50-ish are just stuck in ur tradional ways.

  34. chuck_easton says:

    My final thought on the new uniforms. They were designed for the Xbox generation who have the attention span similar to the flight path of a hummingbird, i.e. scattered…

    “Oh look, bright colors! What is that game again?”

    The Seahawks new uniforms will be the hit of Madden 2012 especially with the under 22 year old crowd.

    We old timers can just sit here and tell our younguns that ‘back in my day, teams looked like football players, not walking stobelights…oh, and did I tell you I had to walk 10 miles to school, in the snow, up hill, both ways?’

  35. SandpointHawk says:

    As long as they win, I don’t give a rat’s a$$ what they wear. I have no control over any of that. That being said, I will not be buying a new jersey for a while.

  36. HonHawksLSB says:

    Let’s change the subject… Adam Schefter is reporting that Kenny Britt may only get a 1-3 game suspension. To me that translates into Marshawn not missing any time. Great News!

    Britt has been arressted an astonishing 8 times and continues his knuckleheadedness by tweeting pictures of team imposed fines. Marshawn on the other hand has been active in his local community and has had no issues with the team or the law aside from his questionable DUI.

  37. SandpointHawk says:

    I did walk eight miles to school in four feet of snow and I liked it….without a cell phone or game boy I might add.

  38. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Almost 6pm and no Directv installer on site. I called Directv and they said that the installer called in an hour ago and said he was on site and they wanted to know how the service went. I said “What service?”

  39. bbnate420 says:

    Maybe time to switch to cable.

  40. Soggybuc says:

    What sucks about the Uni’s is that all the players at the opening loved them and said the Hawk’s got the best of the new bunch, go figure.
    I think the flashy trend is here to stay, did you guys see the new Notre Dam uni’s?

  41. Soggybuc says:

    Except Cable doesn’t carry NFL ticket, hence why i’m stuck watching the pirated streams.

  42. HonHawksLSB says:

    Nothing better then sitting real close to your TV and watching the kickoff and 1st drive of all 8 games. DirectTV is a must for all Hawks fans that don’t live in Washington.

  43. raymaines says:

    When I walked up hill to school I had to wrap my bare feet in barbwire to get traction on the ice, and bang on my empty lunch box to keep the wolves away. That was back when football players played in mud.

    I don’t mind the green exactly but the feathers on the pants have got to go, and I want a bird on the shoulder and a number where Nike swoosh is on the sleeve.

  44. orbeavhawk says:

    Looks like this “ol’ geezer” [at 73] stands alone here – I really like the new uniforms and especially the 12th man green feather symbols on the pants. They are not only playing GOOD they are looking GOOD!!!


  45. SandpointHawk says:

    Go geezer @orbeavhawk you still got it…
    @Raymines, where the hell did you score the barbwire. I would have given my left coconut for some barbwire…

    Go Seahawks…

  46. raymaines says:

    My mother sent my little sister and me out at night to steal barbwire from the perimeter fence of the State Prison we lived next to. Of course that meant escaping mother stabbers and father rapers would be running through our cotton patch, but hey… Who’s having more fun than us?

    Geoux SeaHawks!!

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