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Moffitt has elbow injury, out 2-3 weeks

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm with 62 Comments »
August 10, 2012 1:07 pm

Seattle head coach Pete Carroll said that offensive lineman John Moffitt suffered an elbow injury, and will not play in Saturday’s game against Tennessee.

Carroll went on to say that Moffitt will have surgery to remove loose bodies in his elbow, and is expected to be out two to three weeks.

However, Carroll is hopeful that Moffitt will be back in time for the team’s season opener at Arizona on Sept. 9.

“We’ve just got to take care of business, and that’s why we’re acting on it as quickly as possible,” Carroll said. “We had no lead into this at all – just his elbow got sore. It wasn’t an injury. It just got sore from the work, and then it got a little bit worse the next day and they decided to take a good look at it, and they saw that he had some old stuff in there.”

This is Moffitt’s second significant injury with the Seahawks. Moffitt finished last year on the injured reserve list after suffering a MCL and PCL tear in his left knee in the opening quarter against Baltimore that required surgery.

Moffitt also was suspended for the last four games of 2011 without pay for violating the league’s policy on performance enhancing substances.

According to Moffitt’s agent Michael George, his client was suspended for taking a drug used to treat hyperactivity, and that Moffitt did not pre-clear taking the drug with the league.

With Moffitt out, Deuce Lutui will get the start at right guard. However, Carroll also said rookies J.R. Sweezy and Rishaw Johnson will get opportunities to earn time a right guard as well.

Carroll addresses CBA violation
Carroll said the team right now plans to stick with playing Matt Flynn in the first half and Russell Wilson in the second half, but that rotation could change on game day.

Carroll also addressed Thursday’s report that the Seahawks violated the Collective Bargaining Agreement by allowing Terrell Owens to suit up for his first practice on Wednesday.

Carroll acknowledged that he unknowingly violated the rule and has heard from the league. But right now the league still is gathering information on the issue, and team does not know how they will be disciplined.

“I have no power to deal with that,” Carroll said. “I can’t control it. I have nothing to do with it, so we’ll just have to see what it is.”

Carroll said he’s liked what he’s seen so far from Owens, but confirmed that the veteran receiver will not play on Saturday.

“He played fast,” Carroll said. “And it’s a bit surprising really that he’s looked as fast as he is. But it’s real, so we’re really impressed early on.”

Rice, Baldwin out – likely Lynch, too
Carroll said that Sidney Rice got some work during team drills today, but he’s still wearing a red jersey to protect him from contact coming off two shoulder surgeries this offseason, and he will not play on Saturday.

“He’s making great progress,” Carroll said about Rice. “He’s now taking snaps in practice, and that will just continue to progress. He’ll be one of those guys that won’t play in the game. But he’s getting a lot of work, and his timing is getting there.”

The Seahawks will be a little thin at receiver because Doug Baldwin and Ricardo Lockette also will sit out with hamstring injuries. Carroll said he expects to have both receivers back on the field next week.

Linebacker Barrett Ruud (knee) did not practice today, and could be a scratch for Saturday according to Carroll.

And it’s also a distinct possibility that Marshawn Lynch does not play on Saturday.

“Marshawn will not get a bunch of carries in this game – he’ll be in street clothes,” Carroll said.

Injury update
DT Alan Branch (knee), LB Matt McCoy (knee) and LB Allen Bradford (hip) did not practice today, along with Baldwin, Lockette, Ruud and Moffitt. CB Walter Thurmond (leg) and OL James Carpenter (knee) remain on the PUP list. CB Brandon Browner and TE Cameron Morrah returned to practice after sitting out on Thursday.

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  1. Well most of the guys I wanted to see this weekend – Lockette, Lynch, Baldwin, Owens – won’t be playing

    I am still excited to see Turbin, Wagner, Irvin, Jones play :)

    and of course the rest of the team ;)

  2. RDPoulsbo says:

    It’s probably best they don’t play Lynch. He’s the starter and there’s no need to give him any additional punishment in a preseason game. Besides, it’ll be good to see Turbin, Lumpkin and Washington getting some touches and see what’ll pan out at the bottom of the depth charts at RB.

  3. Interesting comment about the order of playing between Wilson and Flynn. Can’t let that one slide, can we?

  4. Hammajamma says:

    Interested in watching the Flynn to Tate connection, Sweezy, and getting glimpse of Winslow.

    On D, I’ll be focusing on Broooooooooooose (get used to that), Jones and McDonald, all the LBS and Guy.

    Preseason games quickly become excrutiating for me. With replacement refs, it’s really going to be a challenge to hang in.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Sounds like Moffitt will be back and ready to go in no time. Good.

    I’m most looking forward to seeing Flynn, Irvin, Sweezy, Wagner, Turbin, Guy, … you know what? I’m just fired up to see the boys out there tomorrow! I haven’t been this pumped for a season in many years.

  6. woofu… I agree… one scenario I could see it changing is if Flynn makes two consecutive long drives for touchdowns on our first two possessions… That would solidify him and taking a risk of leaving him in after that doesn’t hold much logic…. PC might let TJ finish the first half at that point…. still leaving the 2nd half for Wilson…

  7. Dukeshire says:

    I love preseason games. I love watching the guys on the bubble and studying the schemes and wrinkles (as few as they expose) they are looking at using.

  8. chuck_easton says:


    I think what the pro-Wilson camp are reading into that comment is that it’s possible we turn on our televisions tomorrow night and find that Wilson is starting the 1st half and Flynn the second. That would give the Wilson guys hope that he’s moved closer to being named the starter.

    I don’t see that happening. Flynn is starting the game. The only thing that may change in the rotation is how soon Flynn has proven he’s #1, does TJ come in before or after Wilson.

  9. FleaFlicker says:

    To echo Duke: cannot wait for that kickoff tomorrow, preseason or not

  10. Hammajamma says:

    Glad someone likes the Preseason, Duke. But honestly, its endless dropped balls and TV time outs by the second quarter. For me, focusing on individual players in a ragged game causes my mind to wander. Maybe I have ADHD, but beyond my initial interest in Ingram last night, I was gone before half time.

    BTW, I picked up an awesome dog from the Shelter on draft day. His name is BROOOOOOOOOOOOSE!

  11. I think you see guys personalities in pre season – who gets frustrated easily. Who is calm and focused. Who gets too hyped up.

    All interesting to watch for me :)

    I am hoping that a WR – ANY WR – steps up on Saturday and shows us something. I was hoping it was Lockette – don’t know why but I just like the guy. Not sure that he is the best receiver to keep but I still like him

  12. Dukeshire says:

    Hammajamma – Good for you rescuing a dog! I’m happy for you and your new family member.

  13. Back to the Moffitt Injury – I still think it is troublesome that our 3 high draft picks on the OL have had a hard time staying on the field.

    If we have a season where Carp, Moffitt and Okung can all be on the field for 14+ games that will be soooo good for us – we can actually see what we have AND play with some continuity!!

    hopefully this will not stretch into the regular season, I want to see this guy play – clearly they like him so I hope he can play and play well

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Who’s to say we don’t already have better players than Moffitt to fill the RG position?
    It’s not like he is the second coming of Hutch. Lol.

  15. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Chuck- I’m in the pro-Wilson camp, however it doesn’t really matter to me who starts the games. Many starters will be out anyways and the defenses most likely won’t be showing all their stuff in preseason.

    I will not be disappointed at all if Flynn gets the starting job, However I think he will really have to earn it with Wilson as his competition. And that means throughout the season.

    Bottom line- It’s great to have a real qb competition for a change.

  16. Chuck…. understood…. but given the practice week with the first unit (minus some key recr’s), I also believe Flynn will start unless something really strange happens… This is PC’s best opportunity to see first hand what Flynn can do when provided that lead role… I continue to feel this decision by PC is a very smart move on his part…. Like most of us, I’ll sure be watching Wilson too… This game will be pretty exciting for us…. a great test against a pretty decent team…

  17. Georgia… Yup, won’t be the full playbook’s, but for sure, Hass & Lock aren’t coming back to Seattle without a bit of extra adrenoline pumping and we’re sure in tune with Flynn & Wilson… Boy this should be a fun game, even though a preseason one….

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Will Carroll ever make up his mind?
    And pick up on Wilson and leave Flynn behind?
    It’s not often easy and not often kind.
    Will Carroll ever make up his mind?

    When will Carroll finally decide?
    And say yes to Flynn and let Wilson ride?
    There’s so many changes and tears you must hide.
    When will Carroll finally decide?

    Sometimes there’s one with a big arm who’s an athlete,
    Who can make the long pass and can show his quick feet,
    And just when you think he’s that one that you need,
    Your heart gets broken cause he can’t really lead.

    So Carroll finally has to make up his mind.
    pick up on one and leave the other behind.
    It’s not often easy and not often kind.
    Carroll finally has to make up his mind.

    Sometimes you really dig a qb the moment you you sign him,
    And then you get distracted by drafting another.
    When in walks Paul Allen and takes you in line,
    And says, “Better go on home, son, and make up your mind.”

    So Carroll you better finally decide.
    And say yes to one and let the other one ride.
    There’s so many changes and tears you must hide.
    Carroll it’s close for you to finally decide.

    Go Seahawks!!!!

    Happy Hour!

  19. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – He’s a fan favorite and easy to root for. That’s why more than anything people are concerned. The depth on the o line is as deep as it’s been in many years.

  20. bird_spit says:

    GAHawk – What is your day job, cause i think you missed out cashing in on your real talent.

    great tune to whistle too..

    Thanks for the laugh on Friday —-its Miller time out here

  21. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- I agree he is easy to root for as a funny guy, however Hasselbeck was also easy to root for. The difference is players like Hasselbeck that were funny also were very productive on the field.

    In other words I really like the funny characters on the team, however I would much rather have a player like Hutch, ( with no sense of humor that can play at a high level ) than a player like Moffitt who is funny and can’t play at a high level.

  22. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- don’t even try to start a debate because I give you the win on this one.
    My happy hour started 3 hours before yours. Lol.

  23. bird_spit says:

    Oh and Miller time really means Deschutes Twilight Summer Ale…

  24. GeorgiaHawk says:

    bird_spit- I love Deschutes Twilight Summer Ale. Yum.

  25. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – You may or not remember, but Hutch wasn’t viewed as anything terribly special in the summer of ’03, after playing only 4 games in ’02. My point isn’t to compare Moffitt to Hutchinson, but rather to say that Moffitt (health aside) is a cornerstone offensive lineman (if unspectacular), in the interior. In addition to that, he’s very likeable, and that’s why people are concerned. It’s far more than he’s a “funny guy”. We view Hutch now, by product of his career and the epic failure of Seattle’s front office at the time, allowing him to leave, as something of an icon. And that’s a terribly skewed and unfair position from which to measure another “like” player, IMO.

  26. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – Sorry bro, I didn’t see your second post until after I posted that. Cheers. (And oh by the way, I’m literally 2 blocks from the Portland Deschutes brewery…)

  27. RDPoulsbo says:

    Damn, I could use some Deschutes right now. The crap on the East Coast doesn’t compare.

    I really hope I get this job that lets me move back to the Seattle area…

  28. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Not fair Dukeshire!

    I will be out in May. Drinks on you!

  29. princeaden says:

    GHawk, IMO it’s too early to declare that Moffitt can’t play at a high level. I thought he was starting to really shine just before getting hurt and what with the abbreviated training camp and such, my feeling was that he was ahead of track for an OL. Nevertheless, having an in shape Deuce to fall back on shows more depth at the position than I have ever seen for the Seahawks. CANNOT WAIT FOR TOMORROW..

  30. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – You coming to Portland next May? We’ll treat you right.

  31. Sparky12 says:

    I am happen to live in Bend Oregon and just blocks from the Deschutes Brewery. My favorite is Black Butte Porter. I will having a few in my frosted mug tomorrow during the 7PM game, which happily is on the Bend Fox channel here. Cheers, and GO HAWKS!

  32. GeorgiaHawk says:

    princeaden – I want all the Seahawk players to play at a high level. It’s probably more frustration on my part and a bit of happy hour. Lol.

  33. crunchmeister says:

    I usually give my preseason tickets away, but I’m giddy to see the team tomorrow. Along with all the players and positions already mentioned, I’ll be interested to see who looks like they can make an impact on special teams. ST play will be absolutely critical for a team that wants to make it’s living on D and ball control offense. This is where the hard decisions about who makes the final 53 are made.

    Hop Czar-thirty here… cheers!

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- I can’t wait to get back there! And I will be sure to look you up.

  35. Hammajamma says:

    If we’re turning toward beer, nothing beats:

    Dictactor Series
    Avery Brewing Co.

    Crack that sucker ten minutes before kickoff.

  36. VNHLNFAN says:

    Turbin is going to have a big game.. this will be fun to watch!

  37. hawks4life says:

    Hi Eric. I was just wondering, from all the other pre-season games I’ve seen, their starting quarterbacks only played one to three series. Why do we seem to have the only starting quarterback to play a whole half in the first pre-season game? Not that I’m complaining, but just wondering.

  38. princeaden says:

    Ghawk, I am probably guilty, once again, of a happy hour of “Kool-Aid” lol.

  39. This is going to be a very good pre-season game. I like pre-season anyway but Matt coming back will make it awesome.Heard on Sirius he will be signing autographs one hour before game time.

  40. It’s not too uncommon for teams with a new starter to give them much more time in at least one of the first few games

  41. ESPN2 will air the 2011 version of Seahawks yearbook tomorrow at 1130pm

  42. Deschutes brewery is a good one, Duke. One of my favorite places in P-town. I hate to brag but I’m proud to live 5 miles from the Pyramid Brewery and the Elysian Brewery in Seattle. Oh, there is a little place on the lot in between them called the Clink. Okay, actually I like to brag.

    I have to say I love preseason games more than most. Watching the young guys trying to make the team is inspiring if you have time to really follow them. The TV announcers can complain about sloppy preseason football all they want, but we get to watch our boys come of age on the field!

    One of the best new things I’m looking forward to this year is the “coaches film” view on NFL game rewind. Now we can see the he blocking schemes from above, the DB/WR battles downfield, all the action, not just the TV view. I

    ts going to be a great season of stuff to watch and keep up on. Guess I’d better kiss my wife goodbye now.

  43. GeorgiaRay says:

    Being on the East Coast, preseason games at night are great…10:15-1st qtr/1st unit; 10:55-2nd qtr/2nd unit rotations; 11:35-halftime…….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  44. GeorgiaRay says:

    But what will really happen is I’ll be trying to identify camp fodder, first cuts for roster spots 70-90 in the 4th quarter….

  45. I hope I’m not too late for the beer commentary… Down here in the panhandle of Florida, there is nothing local. I end up on Sweetwater IPA quite a bit because there just aren’t many options. Sadly, nothing from Deschutes is available down here. A Black Butte Porter would rock my world tonight!

  46. Dukeshire says:

    Gameday! (albeit preseason) I’m so happy. Lol

  47. DreadHawks says:

    Seahawks and Brew,like peanut butter and jelly. Would anyone be interested in a pre game gathering of Seahawk Insiders for Brats and Brews?? I don’t know how many are season ticket or plan on going to a game or games but the more the merrier. Just a thought.

  48. It has been a long long wait getting through this off-season . . . . thank goodness for this blog. Game day is finally here,and I am very ready.

  49. chuck_easton says:

    Dread hawks,

    Will be watching from my couch in Calgary but please lift a pint for me! I’ll be there in spirit.

    I am planning on taking my son to another dad/ son Seahwaks weekend bonding trip this year. Haven’t picked the game or tried to arrange tickets yet.

    Any suggestions from the people I really trust, being the men and women ( can’t leave out Danielle) on here?

  50. Dukeshire says:

    Chuck – Whichever game you go to, let us know. I’d love to meet up with you. From my end, I know I’ll be at Dallas and Green Bay. After that it’s up in the air. What would your son think about New England? Seeing one of the greatest coaches and QBs in NFL history come to the Clink. That would be a pretty cool memory. I remember going to see the Bears at the Knigdome with my dad when I was 10, and getting to see Walter Payton. Awesome!

  51. chuck_easton says:

    He chose New England as his first choice, but that is because his favorite nonSeahawk player is Tom Brady.

    That was my first thought as well.

    My son’s favorite Seahawk players are Unger, Washington and Lynch.

    He likes Unger because he got moved to center and he found out he loves playing the position.

    When we went to the Bengals game last year I let him buy any jersey he wanted and he chose an Unger official game worn jersey. He was shocked when Unger turned around during the game and saw him wearing it. Max looked right at him and gave a big smile. Probably the first time Max ever saw someone in the stands wearing a Center’s jersey. Max doesn’t know it but he’s one of the few NFL centers that has a fan for life. My son studies everything about Max and what he did to become an NFL center.

    If Tyler ever had the chance to meet him in person he’d probably pass out.

  52. DreadHawks says:

    @ chuck, perhaps when you decide which game maybe we can meet up then. It was just a thought. how old is your son? I have 3 maybe one close to his age. I can bring one to the game. Mine are 15,11,10.

  53. Where is Eric this morning? first preseason game day and our fearless leader is sleeping in? lol.

  54. chuck_easton says:


    My son is 15 as well. He starts high school football ( grade 10 ) this year. Even though we are both American he and I moved to Canada in 2000 when I got married to a Canadian. My son is more Canadian than American now. He plays hockey as every Canadian child is required to do and Canadian rules football.

    I am raising my son to love NFL and the Seahawks but he does cheer for Canada whenever they play the Americans in any international sport. :)

  55. HeinieHunter says:

    I’m really hoping our Special Teams ramp up this year and set up the defense again and again. I am also wondering what PC&JS will cull from the cut lists of other teams when the preseason is over. I suspect they may “pan gold” at WR. Thoughts on either topic?

  56. Dukeshire says:

    chuck_easton – That is one of the great things about sports when you’re young: heroes. Awesome.

  57. “I moved to Canada in 2000 when I got married to a Canadian.”

    Only true love can get an American to move from sunny California to freezing Canada!

    Chuck, did you watch the Olympic women’s soccer semi-final between Canada and the U.S.? What an epic match! Very controversial. Everyone in Canada believes they were robbed. I was happy to see that they got the bronze at least.

  58. chuck_easton says:

    We were robbed, but by the Ref not the American team. Glad we beat the French for the bronze.

  59. raymaines says:

    Things I want to see:

    1)Good O-Line play
    2)The Linebackers
    3)Two good QB’s
    4)Receivers that can catch, and
    5)A decent pass rush

    Things I don’t want to see:

    1)Give up big plays on defense
    2)Receivers who appear lost
    3)#8 shredding the defense
    4)Stupid penalties , and
    5)Sloppy Special Teams play

    Injuries aren’t on the list because that’s just too obvious.

  60. DreadHawks says:

    Chuck, that’s awesome! When you decide on your game(s) let me know perhaps we can meet up. Best wishes on your sons sporting endeavors….I love hockey, hope we get a team here soon. Go Hawks!

  61. Good post raymaines,

    I will follow suit, things I want to see:
    1) Flynn slicing and dicing the secondary
    2) Irvin and Jones getting pressure on Matt/Jake
    3) Tate carrying over good practices into the game
    4) Solid offensive line play
    5) Confidence and swagger on the home turf

    Things I don’t want to see:
    1) T-Jack
    2) Flynn or Wilson pressured incessantly
    3) Dropped passes
    4) Matt/Jake with all day to throw
    5) Titans converting 3rd and longs

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