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Morning links: A humbled T.O.?

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 6, 2012 at 7:13 am with 43 Comments »
August 6, 2012 7:13 am
Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Terrell Owens (81) celebrates after scoring a touchdown in the fourth quarter of an NFL football game against the New York Jets, Thursday, Nov. 22, 2007, in Irving, Texas. (AP File Photo/Dr. Scott M. Lieberman)

Peter King of Sports Illustrated says the Seattle Seahawks are willing to kick the tires on Terrell Owens today because they have concerns about Sidney Rice’s ability to hold up over the long haul in 2012. Further, they hear that Owens is in great shape and has been humbled by what has occurred this past year.

King: He’s 38, he hasn’t played in the league since 2010, he’s apparently blown his football fortune, and today just might be last call at the T.O. Saloon. Seattle’s giving him a look — nothing more, at least for now — because the Seahawks have heard he has been humbled and is in great shape.”

Here’s my story on Sunday’s practice, with head coach Pete Carroll remaining coy on the quarterback competition.

Former NFL player Eric Davis, now an analyst for the NFL Network, does not believe Owens is a good fit in Seattle. Davis: “Pete Carroll works better with young players. He works better in a teaching mode, he works better bringing the guys up the chain. I don’t think T.O. is going to listen to a lot of what he says. I don’t think Pete’s method is going to work with him.”

If you’re trying to figure out what type of mental state T.O is in, take a look at Michael Mooney of Grantland’s profile on Owens while he was still playing for the Allen Wranglers of the Indoor Football League.

KJR’s Curtis Crabtree writes that we should receive more clarity in Seattle’s quarterback competition this week.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that all three quarterbacks had their moments during Sunday’s scrimmage.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times writes that Marshawn Lynch looked like his old self on Sunday.

Bill Barnwell of Grantland goes into great detail to explain why he believes the San Francisco 49ers will win nine games or less in 2012.

Morning links
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  1. Who do I complain to about Tez not being on the cover? lol

    Dream Team – Ken Behring, owner; GM Numbskull; Coach Mora; QB T-Jack; 1st round pick Curry; Bill Leavy, ref; should be good for a #1 overall draft pick!

  2. Soggybuc says:

    Well I guess the end of the world IS at hand.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    I happen to believe Eric Davis is right, here. He good news is that Carroll will break players off without a second thought, that aren’t all in.

    If Owems’ history is any indication, the first couple months should go just fine. He’ll keep his head down and say all the right things. Then by Halloween, his little act will start up, that we’ve all seen, and the drama will begin. I hope I’m wrong and I hope he’s able to produce and contribute. But this is a situation where I am expecting the worst, sadly.

  4. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    the guy has stone hands i watched the dallas games, when you have to have the catch he drops more than he catches.

  5. piperfeltcher says:

    BobbyK if you consider TJack to be the worst the QB in Seahawks history you must have missed a lot of years of Hawks football.

  6. bird_spit says:

    I think it’s all about the psych evaluation of our QBs. Add more media pressure to them, and see who is the big boy about it. In the exit interview of TO, get his thoughts on them.

    At the same time, give a kernel of hope to TO, and he stays motivated, and on the watch list as the season progresses.

  7. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I can just see it now, Owens coming back to the huddle and telling our rookie starting qb to get him the ball more. At that moment Wilson say’s back to Owens, ” baldwin is a better option”.
    At that moment Wilson wins the team over and Owens gets cut! Our future qb has arrived!

  8. pipe – It’s “MY” team (who I hate most). Have your own and post it. I won’t care.

  9. bird_spit says:

    Hass year one has to be the worst ever..

  10. piperfeltcher says:

    T.O played well with the Bengals and if he is committed I think he could help this team on and off the field. I can not think of a better player to try and coach and help develop Lockett then Owens as they both have similar styles in that they are huge wide receivers with speed.

  11. piperfeltcher says:

    Gelbagh was the worst Seahawk QB ever and I dio not even consider it close although Kemp, Friez, Stouffer and Maguire also all were bad. Getting hard to come to this site as a Hawks fan when all you read is people ragging on Hawks players continously.

  12. bird_spit says:

    Great, Lockett needs to be more like TO…If so, I see a short career for him coming. Lockette needs to be lockette. If TO makes the team today, I’d be really concerned about the WR group.

  13. piperfeltcher says:

    Not saying Lockett needs to be like TO just that I think a young player like Lockett could learn a few things from a player like TO.

  14. I would agree that Carroll won’t put up with any nonsense from T.O. or anyone else for long. But Coach is obviously concerned about the WR group. They looked for one in the draft and couldn’t find what they wanted.

    I’ll be very surprised if T.O. is here for more than 2 weeks. As of the cuts to 53, there is no telling who may be cut loose from another team that we might sign. The Seahawks have good starters and depth at flanker and slot, they’re just too young at split end.

  15. Once again BobbyK, you’re schtick with TJ is old and unjustified. Dude went 7-7 last year…you are the numbskull.

    And regarding the banner and cortez kennedy as to who you would complain to? I got an idea. What do you obsess about it, whine about it, cry about it, continue to repeat yourself about it, and maybe just maybe you’ll get your way.


    Give it a rest dude. Both the Tjack bashing and Cortez in the banner. Please talk about something else (not including Carimi, Hutch, Hass and Locker being your favorites, etc.)…just anything else.


  16. bird_spit says:

    While blows, flag is thrown..

    “Personal foul – spearing, 15 yards will be assessed, loss of down, ah number, ah “joreb””.

    I can’t wait for the games!

  17. mojjonation says:

    I know it is BK’s team, but what about Rick Mirer? Man that guy was, is, and always will be, one of the biggest first round flops ever. Maybe not on the level of Todd Marinovich, but surely up there with the Aaron Currys and Jamarcus Russells of the world.

    Please, please, please just say no to TO. I haven’t seen his W2’s, but I think the guy is broke. Unless they tape his mouth shut, I’m thinking if they sign him, this marriage won’t last until the 4th game of the season. Forget halloween, TO is in full freak costume 24/7.

  18. Spearing? Personal foul? I’m personally offended by the constant rhetoric and repetitive nature of our ocd friend that hails from the great state of minn a sohta.

  19. Rick Mirer won ROY. I say it’s Gelbaugh, McGwire or Stouffer as the worst in our franchise history.

    Tjack isn’t even close at 7-7.

  20. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    joreb i am one of Bobby’s biggest critics at times but don’t make it personal .if he want to come on here and talk weather he can “open blog” if you dont like his post skip them when you see his name, there you go nice simple solution no need to go postal.

    and T jack sucks 7 and 7 last year and he should have won atleast 2 more, you cant put anything on his back without him folding like a lawn chair.

    and on a final note hell has frozen over i have taken up for bobby.

    thanks for the post Bobby i enjoy your post even the endless rants.

  21. there are many bloggers who find a way to keep the topics fresh and new. beating a dead horse is beating a dead horse. it’s not entertaining, it’s nauseating. and what’s to say that he can complain about the front office and i can’t complain about his incessant rants.

    whatever. I say the things other people only think to. you want to succomb to bk, go right ahead. i will only pop off if it’s the same crap being rehashed over and over again. otherwise, I try to offer new perspectives, period.

  22. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Going postal is a common occurrence down here in the south in the heat of August. Just try and drive one time around the 285 loop and you will see what I mean. Lol.

  23. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    joreb, the point i am making is acceptance is an easier path than stressing yourself out over this. bottom line is if he wants to vent his frustration over things over and over and well over again thats his right. just like you get to piss and moan about his repitition. diference is you are making it personal and yours is non fottball related. i like what everyone says even you its great to come on here and share our love for the hawks.

  24. beating a dead horse is beating a dead horse. it’s not entertaining, it’s nauseating.

    Hey Pot, have you met my friend Kettle?

    Ferchristsakes, at least T-Jack is worth hating. BobbyK is an internet person.

  25. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    lmao , then don’t read it!

  26. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK was doing good for awhile, so we have to give you credit for that.
    It’s hard to stay off the qb talk when most of the threads are about that very subject.
    And now that we are close to hopefully having this thing resolved I expect to be hearing more qb talk. That’s just the way it is in the NFL with the most important position.

  27. Funny thing is I’m rooting for Russell Wilson. Tjack does hold on to the ball too long IMO and Flynn has a noodle arm. RW may be short, but I pretty much like everything else about his game and think he provides us with the best long term solution (for now until and unless someone else comes along).

    IF Tjack wins, I’m ok with it. If Flynn wins, ditto. I’m a bottom liner and prefer to learn new things than to live in a perpetual world of redundancy.

    Look at it this way. If he doesn’t mention his hatred for Tjack, I don’t point it out. Curry bashing I could understand…that guy was a dufus. Tjack, from most points of view, seems like a stand up guy that played through an injury and did ok. I don’t seem him as the franchise qb, but he isn’t junk. Just middle of the road at best, so far.

    JoshSCh – what you got to say? Inspire us, we’re waiting.

  28. GeorgiaHawk says:

    And BTW- I used to get so pissed when I kept hearing over and over Mr. happy this! Mr. Happy that! Blah blah blah. I took offense because I thought it was demeaning to our coach and team. So I can fully understand where joreb is coming from.

    Bobbyk has contributed some of the best stuff on this blog, imo, and yes he can go the other way too sometimes. So what do you do? Just let it go. We are all Seahawk fans first and foremost. Entertainers second. Crazy fools third. Lol.

  29. joereb – please do me a favor and NEVER read anything I say ever again. That will make the world a better place.

    And (you should have stopped by now) you fail to understand T-Jack had a top 10 defense and Lynch’s dominant run game and yet, in your world, “he” is the reason the team went 7-7? Give me a break. Did those other craphole QBs have teams around them as good as Jackson did last year? You must be the only person on earth (in this overexaggerated example, if you’re still reading – which you shouldn’t be) that thinks Trent Dilfer carried the Ravens to a Super Bowl win. LMAO

  30. For the record, I think all of us were jacked when we got Stouffer and McGwire. We needed/wanted a franchise QB. We didn’t know they sucked at the time. My feelings with that one guy is that I knew he was bad (not as bad as I thought) so why like him if your goal is to win a SB?

  31. bird_spit says:

    BK, for the sake of this argument, I agree. Even Rick Mirer, I watched every down, thinking the light bulb would come on. Oh well..

    I know this, my TV does not need me throwing crap at it every time TJ tosses a crappy pass to the right, when left flag route is wide open. I’d rather be pissed that Flynn missed the obvious 25 yd toss, because he took the out route that gained 5. I’d like to be pissed that in red zone passing, Flynn has not enough TD passes, but has even less interceptions. I think Flynn is a gamer that given a bad game, will bounce back and crash the nay sayers. It is the only hope for this season in my thinking. Wilson can be next years contender.

  32. I never said that he was the reason they went 7-7. Those are your words. I said he went 7-7 in the games he started.

    Trust me, I think for all the good that Holmgren did, he blew a lot more playoff victories than not. The NFC west was horrible for a long time, but we only made it to the big dance once? Walter, Hutch, Tobeck, Strong, Alexander and Hass were all probowlers for a few years and we blew it.

    I very much prefer Carroll to every other coach we’ve ever had. Looking at Hasselbeck now, I wish he and the team could’ve worked something out instead of having Tjack on the roster. As I recall, the team offered a 1 year deal whereas Matt was seeking a 3 year option. Maybe a 2 year deal would’ve worked, but who knows if Hass makes it through all of last year.

    Don’t put words in my mouth Bobby. Go back and look at all the threads and show me one time that I said Tjack was the reason we went 7-7. It never happened.

    And don’t tell me to not read this blog, that’s ridiculous. Until you own the paper and can block me yourself, it ain’t happening.

    yes, you do contribute some good things. I have no problem admitting whatsoever. but truth is you’re often over the top and I also have no problem calling you out on it. be accountable dude. the rest of us are, you could be as well.

  33. footballscaa says:

    T.O?! Did you hear that? That was the sound of my hand smacking my forehead in frustration.

  34. Not too worried about TO, honestly. At most the guy seems like another WR to grind through camp. Being a 38 year old diva who has been out of the NFL for years seems like a bit too much of a handicap to overcome. It’s not like TO is going to be a special teams stand out — if he’s makes the final 53, he’s got to be on the field with the offense or it seems like he’s a waste of a precious roster spot.

    Which much-younger-than-38-not-a-diva WR on the roster do you cut to keep him? I know we’re unsettled at WR, but I am not sure I would take him over who we have and instead get the staff to bust its butt to help a few of the young guys put it together.

  35. Lockette’s already super arrogant like TO talking about Channel 83, and our WR group is weak. I like the attitude they’re building with Lynch, KWII, Braylon, Edwards and now TO. I have major doubts about everyone in our WR group with the exception of Baldwin. Cortand Finnegan, and Patrick Peterson worry me greatly.

    TO know this is his last chance, and the guy would run through a wall to regain his fame. If he shows up, and does well, sign him. He’ll probably try to use a sharpie

  36. Take him in shape over Butler, Durham, Obo, maybe Tate

  37. Oct 18th Thursday night football – future HOF reclamation project bowl – Moss vs Owens. Will it even happen?

  38. Which future hall of famer would you rather have on your roster, Moss or Owens?
    Which is the bigger cancer in the locker room?
    Who has more ability at this point?
    These are some relevant questions we can all ponder at this juncture.

  39. Espn reporting TO very impressive during workout and hawks are in contract negotiations with him. I don’t think this is a bad move at all. With our wr corps injury prone and inexperienced, a hungry TO may be just what we need.
    We gave BMW a second chance when everyone else passed on him, it worked in our favor at least for the one year. We even invited Reggie Williams who was out of the league with drug problems. The grant land article is very insightful and a good read.

  40. GeorgiaRay says:

    Dream Team – Ken Behring, owner; GM Numbskull; Coach Flores (and his sweater vests!); QB Dan McGuire; 1st round pick: toss up-Dan McGuire or Rick Mirer (your pick); Bill Leavy, ref.

  41. ljarllrajl says:

    Come on, Guys, cut Stan Gelbaugh some slack! He was a third stringer journeyman player and the only reason he was playing AT ALL was because Kelly Stouffer and Dan McGwire were wash outs.

  42. notimetobleed says:

    Make T.O. eat a Sharpie (on national TV) and then sign him to a 1-year deal.

  43. PugetHawk says:

    I am worried about the front office’s concerns over Sidney Rice’s ability to make it through a whole season. I think we may want to consider making a trade for Mike Wallace. I know its a first round pick but he is young and talented enough that it is worth it IMO. Anyone else see any other options or just stick with T.O. and see what happens to Rice?

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