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Quick hitters from Saturday camp

Post by Dave Boling / The News Tribune on Aug. 4, 2012 at 12:53 pm with 44 Comments »
August 4, 2012 12:58 pm

 

Perhaps the biggest crowd of training camp watched the Seahawks go through another practice when the defense came up with most of the big plays. Here’s some quick post-practice highlights and observations.

 

Quarterback Matt Flynn, who worked with the second unit most of the day, addressed the media afterward and said that camp enters a new phase now, as Saturday was the last day of installing packages. Specifically, they worked on goal-line schemes – both coming in and coming out. Another team session had the offense going in from roughly the 25.

 

The quarterback competition again featured a mix of good and bad for all three prime candidates. Flynn said that it’s particularly frustrating, when you only get a limited number of snaps, to waste any by making a mistake.

 

Notes as they arose during the (no pads) practice:

–Kellen Winslow Jr. got the day off.

–Clinton McDonald was going with the first unit goal line on the nose. McDonald has his right hand in a cast to protect a sprained wrist. McDonald has been a force on the inside during camp thus far. He’s a stout Mebane type who gets good penetration and plays with a lot of energy.

–The second offensive line for most of the day was (left to right): Omiyale, Barbre, Jeanpierre, Lutui and Barron.

–During one of the early goal line sessions, Brandon Browner was not on the field when he needed to be.

–Tarvaris Jackson quarterbacked the No. 1 offense, and gunned a pass into Cameron Morrah in the end zone, but Richard Sherman deflected it and Kam Chancellor swoop up the tipped ball and probably could have gone 105 yards with it. It resembled the play against the Giants last season that Chancellor tipped and Browner returned.

–It was just while running routes against air, but Braylon Edwards made an impressive in-stride over-the-shoulder catch on a deep ball.

–I’d kind of been wondering when Kris Durham was going to start making plays. He has in the last two days, including a touchdown from Matt Flynn.

–Some guys really start making impressions when the team starts going in pads. I think rookie safety Winston Guy is one of those. He had a big day Friday, when he showed his physical play. He continued to look very comfortable Saturday, and I would wager he’s making the Seahawks feel better about safety depth.

–Another receiver who has been a little under the radar who occasionally steps up with noticeable plays is former Oregon Duck Lavasier Tuinei.

–Maybe it’s the effects of his not being with the team during OTAs and minicamps, but I haven’t seen Chris Clemons have the sort of impact he usually has during pass drills.

–On the other hand, Bruce Irvin continues to gain momentum. He beat Fanaika on a pair of inside moves, but saved his best for Russell Okung when he unleashed a move that is tricky to describe. It was something of a jab-step swim-move, that was so fast that Okung barely touched him as he raced past.

–Spent a little time watching rookie cornerback Jeremy Lane out of Northwestern State. Very fast. Very competitive.

–Tomorrow the team will have a mock-game at the VMAC at 1:30 p.m.

 

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  1. HonHawksLSB says:

    Pete is really ahead of the curve when it comes to building a defense. The only team that has a chance to match up against the big physical TE’s such as Gronk and Graham is the Hawks. If Clemons gets it going again and Irvin busts onto the scene with the next generation Freeney stutter spin pash rush we could have the #1 Defense in all of football. Am I too optomistic?

  2. seahawk44 says:

    It is good to hear Kris Durham has stepped it up. I think he realized that the WR position is pretty crowded now and he needs to make his presence felt. I still believe that guy will be a very good WR in the NFL. Does he make this roster this season? Not sure.

    General question to everyone …. Expectations are that the team keeps 6 WRs on the roster ….could they keep 7? What position depth suffers if they do?

  3. chuck_easton says:

    Not happy to hear about Clemons performance to date. This better not be a case where he ‘got his’ and is now content to coast for the next year or two.

    We need both him and Irvin this year.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    Eric – Guy has been working at SS, I presume…?

  5. Hawks85 says:

    I really think the potentional of Lavasier Tuinei, Lockett, Durham, helped make BMW expendable, and now we have Braylon Edwards who can be a difference maker if he’s healthy. It’s going to be fun to see how things shake out.

    Seahawks by far have the most upside of any team in the NFL because of our youth, and continous adding of depth to the roster. In almost every spot now the Hawks run at least four deep in quality football players competing for a shot at a job.

    I worry about Cortland Finnegan, and the Rams jumping back on top more than Alex Smith or the 49er’s playing at that same level this year. Harbaugh going to get beat in his own division when Gore gets stopped, hard and people realise how great a GM Scot McCloughan was, and still can be.

    BI is going to be a monster, and were getting a lot faster at LB. I really like Korey Toomer wish we knew a little more.

  6. psoundpowerhouse says:

    If we lose anyone across our O line this year we could sign Nick Mangolds little sis.
    She could be our anchor at the guard position.
    just sayin’

  7. Dukeshire says:

    I think 6. I just don’t see the WR grlup as being deep enough to warrant keeping 7.

  8. VNHLNFAN says:

    Watched Irvin smoke Okung today. That dude is quick! He had a nice blindside shot at the QB. I can’t wait till he meets alex smith.

  9. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Agree Dukeshire! Now that we have Winslow, ( who is much like a WR himself ) there is no need to keep 7, imo.

    Now I would like to see one or two on the practice squad. perhaps Bates?

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    This has got to be the best thing for our WRs and qbs, going against the best secondary in the NFL. They will only get better when they play other teams!
    Can’t wait!!!

  11. Seahawks2620 says:

    I think the best thing I have heard since training camp commenced, was Eric saying that he believes the offensive line is a very underrated unit on this team. We will need them to step up if we are going to have a decent offensive balance.

  12. Dukeshire: Yep, and he’s been the guy that comes in on Big nickel, similar to Atari Bigby last year. Jeron Johnson and Chris Maragos are the safeties with the second unit.

  13. SandpointHawk says:

    “96”

  14. Soggybuc says:

    I think the positive to take from Bruce vs Russels is attitude, seems as if Bruce was un happy with Russel stonewalling him a few days ago and made a point of putting a move on him.
    that is exactly the attitude a pass rusher needs to have in a game.

  15. I’m listening to the Pro Football HOF speeches. Doleman is speaking, Tez is next. I hope Tez isn’t thanking several mothers of his children like Roaf did. That was awkward. It’s going to be interesting — hearing an entire speech from Tez. He’s so soft spoken.

  16. Soggybuc says:

    Talk about perfect!, my daughter and the neighbor girls spent the day at the flea market selling purse’s and Beanie Babies.
    they just got home and my Daughter handed me a Fleer 92 Cortez Kennedy card! Perfect!

  17. SandpointHawk says:

    God bless America, God bless the Seattle Seahawks….Tez #96

  18. psoundpowerhouse says:

    Wow! Cortez ended it with God Bless the Seahawks!
    We’re gonna win the Superbowl this year.
    I’m reach’in for a kleenex

  19. Dukeshire says:

    Soggy – That is so cool!

    I too loved how Tez ended his speech. And I loved his shout out to Walter Jones. He’ll be next.

  20. chuck – I agree 100%.

  21. bbnate420 says:

    Eric, Dave, or anyone else; are there going to be statistics available from tomorrows mock game?

    Seahawks.com is supposed to have live video of it from approx. 1:15 to 2:30 if anyone is interested.

  22. Dave Boling says:

    Answers:
    –I would doubt stats will be available unless we keep them.
    –I wouldn’t be alarmed at Clemons at this point. He’s a gamer. It’s obvious that he will benefit from teams not being able to focus on him as the lone rush threat.
    –Guy’s been at SS and he looks a lot bigger than he’s listed. I have to think he could be a special teams ace. … And on that topic, the speed and athleticism of young guys like Wagner and Toomer, Guy, etc., could turn the Hawks’ special teams into wicked units.
    –As for numbers of receivers, I think they tend to lump them in with running backs. I think that questions of Rice’s health will continue to be a concern they have to consider, and taking fliers on Edwards and Bryant seem evidence of that.
    –I heard from some folks who were at Canton today and said that Tez went “off script” and padded his speech with some ad libs. What a cool day for a great guy!

  23. psoundpowerhouse says:

    I like the shout out to Chris Warren, Robert Blackmon, Terry Wooden.
    Man, I loved the highlights of the old uniforms too.
    Think it was way cool that Mickey Loomis and Dennis Erickson was there as well.
    I miss those days.

  24. Great to hear that Durham is making his catches. He was never one to drop the ball, so it seems he just had a couple shaky practices. I think the kid has excellent hands, maybe the best on the team in that department if he keeps working. I love he and Lockette and am really rooting for both of them to make the team.

    Also glad to hear Winston Guy is showing up already. The third safety spot is a big hole to fill and we need him. I think Seahawks scouts deserve an A+++ for their ability to scout young safeties.

  25. I remember when that group of rookies (Tez, Wooden, Warren, Blackmon) would always go out to eat or something each week. Good times (even if we sucked – no fault of theirs).

  26. raymaines says:

    A couple of things to think about….

    Durham did NOT just wake up in the middle of the night and and say “Gee, I think I should start catching those balls….” That’s not how it works. He can recognize a weakness and concentrate on correcting the situation, but it’s not an “On/Off” kind of a thing like it’s been made out to be.

    CC is not the sort of person to relax because he signed a big contract. I don’t know why he isn’t doing well in practice but it’s NOT because of an attitude or lack of effort. Maybe because Max Unger and John Moffit are improving.

    Go Bruce!! The better Irvin becomes, the better Okung gets too. It’s all good.

    I can’t wait to see how the guys do against a different color uniform.

    I remember saying before the draft that I totally trust the management team to pick the right guys. Now, in a different context I’m saying the same thing. But would you please pick a QB and get on with things? I’m so tired of this three way thing. Here Russell, take this clipboard and go have a seat over their someplace. Thanks for your efforts up to this point, see ya next year.

  27. owenbytheway says:

    You are all wet.

    Clemmons was very sharp in drills, and I was watching all those DL’s from ten yards away. Maybe he didn’t scrimmage to your liking, but his moves and resolution were there in the drills. He is a gamer, alwright, so wait til next week and print your retractions then.

    Yes, Sandpoint, “96”, Pierre Allen, is a hoss. After sitting out last year, it is put up or shut up time, and he put up today, Fierce.

    This whole bunch of DL are light years advanced from three years ago.
    They are big and fast and smart and that’s something never seemed to understand … that these guys were out there.

    It will be tough cuts on this bunch, and my bet is at least two that don’t make this team will be picked up by another.

    Jaye Howard got 20 minutes of one on one coaching, the last five from Gus Bradley, on outside and inside rush moves. High punches to the back. And when they got to the sleds Howard showed great thrust and made noise doing it.

    No slackards in the bunch.

    Winston Guy has been watching Ken Easley tape. The assassin who comes from nowhere … and he’s not completely healthy yet. He will make the final 53. Wants blood on every play.

    The easy going interaction of the DBacks is relaxed but effective because they turn things on in a hurry. You see them out of position then, bingo, they are there. They seem to know each other’s capabilities and thought processes.

    Golden Tate has learned to run routes. That’s all i needed to know.
    Rice was out there in a red jersey taking some throws and meandering through a few scrimmage, but if he isn’t ready, who is number one?

    Kris Durham looks like a scarecrow, and maybe that’s why he has been hampered by injuries. He made a couple good catches but I have my doubts he will hold up. Lockette was on the field but only taking practice tosses.

    Zach Miller is a biker. That’s what he looks like, that’s what he sounds like in conversation. I can see why Cable was so high on him and he will get some shots at receptions this year, even with Winslow in there (who might be the number one). Miller, up close, is Steve Hutchinson, in appearance and demeanor.

    I have no idea what is gonna happen at QB tomorrow, or next week. But, I can tell you, that Wilson’s inerview voice is not the same as his in the huddle voice. Deep throaty roar, there, and he seems to have a huge field of vision.

    I cannot figure out why Lynch was talking to a DLine coach for 15 minutes at the start of practice. #24 was into severe facial gestures and pointing and the coach was just yakking back and staring him down. They left like best buds. But, what was that all about????

    Irwin is both fast and quick as well as very balanced. He has a special look of intensity about him.

    Two minutes after they came off the field he was working out on strength machine, and five minutes after that he was on a treadmill.

    I’m not into autographs and signing stuff, but I had to ask him to sign by “35” jersey, which I will continue to wear, as O. Schmitt lives on. Nice West Virginia connection, whot not?

    Being that close was a different way to take in the drills and get a different perspective than from my front row Hawks seats. Still I was at the same angle to the action which is good when they’re coming at you, but not so good when they’re at the other end.

    I’d challenge anyone who told me the staff was already down to 65 bodies … and that’s good.

    There’s a lot more to be determined besides starting QB.

  28. bbnate420 says:

    Robert Gallery decided to retire today. Guess the FO knew what they were doing.

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I remember Tez dedicating a whole season to the late Jerome Brown. He became defensive player of the year that season. Class act!

  30. GeorgiaHawk says:

    owenbytheway- It’s hard to take your post serious when you start out with “You are all wet”. Lol.

  31. GeorgiaHawk says:

    What’s this?
    You mean Holmgren may not finish out in Cleveland on his own terms with a lame duck hoopla and all final season?

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/334070-haslam-ready-to-clean-house-in-cleveland?sct=nfl_bf1_a5&eref=fromSI&eref=fromSI

  32. Macabrevity says:

    “On the other hand, Bruce Irvin continues to gain momentum. He beat Fanaika on a pair of inside moves, but saved his best for Russell Okung when he unleashed a move that is tricky to describe. It was something of a jab-step swim-move, that was so fast that Okung barely touched him as he raced past.”

    This text has me so stoked I can’t even describe it. Wish I could be there to see it in person. Love the descriptions you guys are all giving though.

  33. DreadHawks says:

    If Holmgren is fired in Cleveland the Hawks should create a position for him. After all he turned this franchise around and is somewhat responsible for the rising of the 12th Man. Maybe he can be Grand Poobah of the 12th Man Society, or something like that. Love Holmgren and I just think he should be here. Nothing Official just a part of.

  34. If they knew what they were doing with Gallery, they wouldn’t have signed him to a three year contract (w/a chunk guaranteed last year) only to watch him get hurt multiple times in the singular season they had him:)

  35. GeorgiaHawk says:

    And if they knew what they were doing they wouldn’t have drafted Carpenter to be a RT when so many of us here could see that he had a better chance to be a good LG.

    It seems like the FO gave Cable a little too much power last year.

    They make up for it though on the Defensive side.

  36. GeorgiaHawk says:

    DreadHawks- I think the Packers would have first dibs on Holmgren. After all they have a street named after him.

  37. DreadHawks says:

    GeorgiaHawk, point taken but I believe he still has all his family here. But none the less I love Holmgren. If it wasnt for him I never would of been a Hawk Fan. I bought season tix the day he was hired and had em ever since. Bay Area transplant who grew up with the Raiders. But there is no doubt I bleed Blue now. On a side note is Fellinis Pizza still out there. Been to Ga a bunch and always used to go get a slice or two there…..good stuff!

  38. Hammajamma says:

    I’ll say it again, Cleveland is a mess and is about to get worse, short term, when they dump Holmgren (although I would make the same move if I were owner).

    Create a position for him here? I don’t think so. No reason to muddy the water and I can’t see him taking a ceremonial role.

  39. GeorgiaHawk says:

    DreadHawks- I am a huge fan of Holmgren as a coach on the offensive side of the ball, however that’s where it ends with me.

    If the FO ever scraps the Bevell experiment and offers Holmgren the job, I would be thrilled if Holmgren would drop his pusuit for power, ( highly unlikely ) and accept a job as OC here, because I doubt if there are few that could do that job better!
    We could start a dynasty if that dream ever came true!

    And thanks for reminding me about Fellinis. Great Pizza! Haven’t been there in a while, but I’m pretty sure they are still around.

  40. raymaines says:

    Nobody has ever worked the media better than Mike Holmgren. He can be charming and fun to listen to, but it was almost painful to read a transcript of what he had said. His actual words might make even less sense than PC’s, if that’s possible.

  41. I like Holmgren more than Mr. Happy, but this organization doesn’t need him right now. Sure, Mr. Happy and the Duke Boy have had some whiffs, but those are far exceeded by the unreal talent they have assembled in three short off-seasons (I now like Carp since he’s going to be a LG). It’s been pretty incredible. If Flynn can play above average, which I think he can/will, or if Wilson can play well for a rookie and develop into a top 10-15 NFL signal caller, this organization is going to be ready to rock for a long time.

  42. Macabrevity says:

    I wouldn’t want Holmie in here screwing up the chemistry in the FO, and whole team in general. This team doesn’t have anything in common with what Holmie left behind. It would be great if he retired in Seattle, or even did some radio/TV from time to time, but I wouldn’t want him tweaking the controls on this dirigible we finally are starting to get aloft.

  43. I thought Holmgren was The Lorax, and thay already came with a lifetime honory position with the Seahawks

    I miss Holmgren so much, watching him getting red faced when something ticked him off, and start chewing people out. It’s much more relaxing to me as a fan knowing he’s just as angry as I am at what occurred. I think he set Cleveland up to be good for a good while with what he did, especially this year.

    I’d love it if he’d come back here as a OC or Vice Head Coach (unrealistic) because I don’t really have a lot of faith in Darrel Bevell, and I didn’t like Jeremy Bates. Mr.Happy/JS always seemed to have a plan in place for what they wanted to build, but some of the offensive play calling’s been questionable

  44. bbnate420 says:

    OBVIOUSLY, I meant they knew what they were doing by releasing him this offseason. I didn’t think I had to spell it out.

    I’m going to start the BobbyK/GeorgiaHawk for GM/Team President bandwagon. Then every draft pick and free agent signing would be a pro bowler! ;-)

    BTW, as was stated at the time and has been repeated many times by many people, a large part of the reason they drafted Carp was because of his versatility. The o-line had holes ALL OVER the place.

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