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Post by Dave Boling / The News Tribune on June 22, 2012 at 8:47 am with 31 Comments »
June 22, 2012 8:47 am

Here’s a fair point for discussion as The Sporting News grades each NFL team’s off-season moves. The Seahawks penciled out at a C-minus.

A lot of heads shook on draft day when they took Bruce Irvin in the first round, but that’s making more sense as we see the potential he has to address their major off-season need – a pass rush. Irvin could be even more valuable as Chris Clemons’ contract status causes disruption. In the practices I watched, I don’t think any of the young guys progressed as much in a short time as Irvin, who looked increasingly smooth and comfortable with his role. He’s more physically imposing than he first appeared, and his quickness is everything it was cracked up to be.

The article also questioned the investment on Matt Flynn.  “It seems curious that the Seahawks would go all-in for Flynn yet still have him compete for the starting job,” according to the commentary by Vinnie Iyer. I would say that Flynn’s contract is nowhere near an “all-in” situation. It’s an upgrade in spending, certainly, but it’s not so cumbersome that it would strangle the cap if he didn’t pan out.

The signing of Jason Jones was the team’s best off-season move, the article states. I would say that far more important than adding a situational defensive lineman were the re-signings of Marshawn Lynch and Red Bryant. Those two are probably the most important players on either side of the ball in terms of attitude and leadership. The addition of tight end Kellen Winslow, too, should have greater impact.

Also, veteran cornerback Marcus Trufant was listed as a “key loss,” neglecting the fact that Trufant is not at all lost and could be a crucial defender in the role as nickel corner.

At Seahawks.com, Clare Farnsworth previews the Seahawk rookies’ involvement in the league rookie symposium. In a recent column on Hawk administrator Mo Kelly, we looked at the ways in which the team counsels players on life in the NFL, as Kelly put it, “to protect our most precious investment.” The rookies now face similar orientation in a symposium put on by the league.

Rookie quarterback Russell Wilson: “The symposium is a great thing, because it helps all the rookies kind of understand what you go through as a rookie – certainly financially, media-wise and just in terms of everything that you have to deal with as a rookie. It will be a good experience, just because you get to see all the draft picks again. So that will be great.”

NFL.com features a predictable story about Matt Hasselbeck’s mentorship/competition with Jake Locker. I say “predictable” since it’s hard to imagine anybody better from whom to learn about being a professional — in all aspects — than Hasselbeck. But as generously as Hasselbeck will teach Locker the ropes, he’s a hyper-competitive athlete, too. It was logical that Locker would serve as an apprentice last season. But first-round draft picks can’t sit forever, so it will be interesting to see how this develops in the preseason.

I think Brock Huard does a great job of offering insightful and reasoned analysis with Mike Salk on mynorthwest.com and 710ESPN. In this link, Brock assesses the Seahawks’ current quarterback situation relative to decisions they could have rushed into in the past year. While we have little to go on at this point regarding Matt Flynn, Brock thinks the Seahawks were smart to lay off the expensive deals they might have pursued for the likes of Kevin Kolb or Carson Palmer.

 

 

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Dave, You singled out my very same criticisms regarding that Sporting News article. I’ve said this before, but if there is a sports news source that has fallen as far as TSN has over the years, I love to know which it is. There was a time when TSN was the, or near the, gold standard as far as national sports coverage went. Today however, it’s little more than a relic of a once respectable past.

  2. The Sporting News was great in print, but as an online publication, it’s become an afterthought, losing out to the likes of SI and ESPN. Even SI doesn’t have the same cachet it once enjoyed. Then again, neither does the New York Times. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on good journalism, they’re trying to get millions of hits.

    I really hope both Flynn and Irvin prove the naysayers wrong. Can’t wait to see them in action.

  3. Aaaah life as a Seattle sports fan. Seattle just cant figure it out. I would love to see one of our teams prove the naysayers wrong but it never happens, they are always right – we suck in Southern Alaska but at least we are number one in gay pride parades.

  4. These idiots can give the Seahawks a C- right now and after a successful season you won’t see anywhere where they talk about how dumb they were. There is no accountability for being right more often than being wrong so they throw whatever slop they want out there because it doesn’t matter. Irvin is going to fit in well and will be a big time pass rusher that we want/need (and that’s what we needed help with most, after signing Flynn, IMO), even though they’re too stupid to realize it or connect the dots of why someone was drafted.

  5. PixelDummy says:

    Being a Seattle sports fan seems to go hand in hand with the feeling of having ‘my team’ overlooked by the national media. I remember as a kid, in the middle of 1984 season I believe, The NFL Today (or some other equivalant show) stated that the ‘Seahawks were the hottest team in the NFL right now’. I was beside myself with pride and elation and ran to tell my dad the glorious news, as if our family had just won the lottery. Now I actually get a little chuckle out of uninformed commentaries by the national media, and kind of enjoy ‘my team’ being MY TEAM, and not the ‘flavor of the month’ bandwagon team.

    Off topic – great article detailing what it can be like as an ‘over-paid athlete’ making millions of dollars to ‘play a kids game':
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1229910-life-on-the-roster-bubble-thoughts-from-a-former-nfl-player

  6. Wow, The Sporting News USED to be considered to have pretty thorough and fair-minded reporting on the NFL. What a joke. It would be one thing if they gave the Hawks a C- and actually had thier facts straight. If they could logically back up thier opinion, fine. I would have no problem with them, other than to disagree with thier interpretation of the facts.

    But claiming Marcus Trufant as a loss shows they havent paid any attention to Seattle since long before Mini-Camps/Rookie camps. Its hows they didnt even bother to do cursory information searches or read articles from the last few months. They barely have anything to go on, fact-wise. So how can their opinion have any weight at all when the information they bas it on is seriously flawed?

    They oughtta be ashamed!

  7. Carlsonkid says:

    Keep in mind , all those kind of articles ( TSN ) are is someone’s opinion – in this case , of the Seahawks offseason moves , not necessarily of the team itself . Anyone can have an opinion – we all express ours in blogs like this every day . I could write an article about how the Chiefs will fare this season even though I don’t follow them and know virtually nothing about that team . So throwing out foolish opinions about something they know little about is common , especially when out comes to the NFL .

    … I seem to recall that the Rams were the preseason consensus pick amongst the ‘ experts ‘ to win the NFC West last year . So much for opinions

  8. Dukeshire says:

    That’s very true. But the depth of one’s knowledge regarding a particular subject (team in this case) is what helps make those opinions worthwhile, and add value to the conversation. And considering the resources TSN has (or had), make shallow editorials like this one far more unpalatable, to me, than if I read it at Bleacher Report. In other words, I sick of national sports publications dumbing down their narratives.

  9. shorty10 says:

    Who cares? I think we’re all stoked about this season. I haven’t had these expectations in several years. Lots of what-ifs, but what if? The Hawks have been the kings of the IR list, if that changes we have a great opportunity to take back the NFC West.

  10. PixelDummy says:

    3(dumb) predictions for the upcoming Seahawk Season:

    1. Robert Turbin will be our 3rd leading reciever behind Rice & Baldwin with 500 yds. (he will have over 1,000 yds. rushing/receiving)

    2. At some point in the season, Trufant will take over for Browner and start opposite Sherman.

    3. For the second year in a row, the Seahawk with the highest QB rating will be…Sidney Rice, who will complete one pass, to improve on his current QB rating of 118.8.

  11. montanamike2 says:

    Man that’s just lazy journalism. c- ?

  12. Autenpus says:

    tcronk – Huh? What does a gay pride parade have to do with the fact that our sports teams are typically unsuccessful? I’m a little confused by your comment.

  13. Dukeshire says:

    Don’t feed the troll, Autenpus (or their idiotic comments).

  14. MITCHHAWK8 says:

    bobbyk,,the jersey is very wearable,,it is made to fit a line man ,its pretty huge,,i`m 6 ft,,215lbs and it goes almost to my knees,,,the material on it is awesome,,i can email you pictures next week when i get back into town,,if you want?

  15. Mitch – I am interested. I’m 6’3, 205, and that sounds awesome! E-mail Eric and he’ll give you my e-mail address. I won’t be around the blog much starting on Monday for the next 12 days, but I’ll be in touch after the 4th. Thanks!

  16. Dave Boling says:

    Interesting prediction on Turbin, Pixel. I tend to think Winslow will have a lot of catches. He’s had between 66 and 89 catches every non-injury season since 2006. I liked the looks of Turbin catching the ball, so far, but am more impressed with the way he hits the hole, kinda low and behind his pads. He’s going to be a tough target. To my mind, Rice’s passer rating will be an interesting indicator in this respect: It will mean he’s healthy and on the field if he ever attempts a pass. In OTAs, he didn’t show ill-effects from his two shoulder surgeries. He said he’s bulked up a little bit from last season. That was hard to tell, though, as he still looks really lanky. Wiry, sure, but still extremely lean. A full season with a healthy Sidney Rice would do wonders for the offense.

  17. A healthy Sidney Rice is a top 5 WR in the NFL. We NEED him healthy!!!

  18. PixelDummy says:

    Dave, I agree…Winslow should be in the top 3 in receiving, I actually forgot about him. Turbin is one player I’m really excited to see this season, and glad to hear that he’s looking good hitting the hole. I keep envisioning him taking little 3-4 yd dump passes out of the backfield and taking it 25-30 yds, especially if Flynn is QB – he looks good at leading his receivers to YAC. In the open field Turbin seems like a bad match up for most LBs because of his speed, and a bad match up for DBs because of his size/power. If things go well, I would love to him get about 1/3 of the carries, because that would help Lynch stay healthy and at a high level for the next 4 yrs.

  19. MITCHHAWK8 says:

    bobbyk- leroymitchell@shaw.ca,,I hope this is alright??

  20. I feel like a broken record; but I can’t imagine (& I don’t want to imagine) Flynn not being the starter, & hopefully for the next 10 years.

  21. Another must-watch episode of the Real Rob Report:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1AjoTM8tzAs#!

    Includes Bruce Irvin saying how surprised he was to be drafted by the **Redskins** and how he’s going to get double-digit sacks.

    Also, something you don’t see anywhere else: Pete Carroll being interviewed with BMW brushing his teeth in the background.

  22. bbnate420 says:

    TSN are a bunch of morons now.

    I doubt they have substantial resources anymore. Unfortunately, you will see more and more of this kind of reporting thanks to the fact that nobody wants to pay for news anymore.

    Tcronk, fail troll is FAIL!

  23. bbnate420 says:

    Thanks 4 the link Canfan. I wasn’t real impressed with Mike Rob as a FB in 2010 but, he has grown a lot as a player and is a very valuable part of the team.

  24. Soggybuc says:

    I could never say that Troy was the best player. good stuff as always.

  25. montanamike2 says:

    We added Jason Jones, Kellen Winslow,Duece Lutui, resigned Lynch, Bryant and to a lesser extent Trufant as well. We also drafted Bruce Irvin, Robert Turbin and possibly the steal of the draft in Russel Wilson plus added considerable depth where we needed it. Is that a c-?
    If so then i want a c- every year.

  26. Soggybuc says:

    Add Winston Guy onto that list and lets not count out Wagner either. I’m Eager to see what Guy brings. seems to be a lot of excitement swirling around him right now. could he be another late round gem ala Sherman?

  27. confucious says:

    You have to see the puzzle to know how the pieces fit. Tsn most likely needs glasses.

  28. psoundpowerhouse says:

    Ahhh… yes grasshopper one cannot make chicken salad out of chicken @#!$

  29. Of course I also disagreed with TSN’s grade. The point, though, isnt thier low grade; its how they got there. The fact that they list Trufant as not being on the team shows they did little or no research on Seattle, and have paid absolutely no attention to Rookie Camp or OTA’s or Mini Camp. Unfathomable, Untenable, and Indefensible for a journalist to behave in this manner.

    Hell, if I was gonna grade teams, I would spend at least an hour per team reading a blog, plus reading accounts of OTA’s and Mini Camp, plus I would be looking at CURRENT rosters, not ones from months ago.

    You know what else is funny as hell?! Everyone so stoked about Deuce Lutui. I howled when we signed him, mostly because I wanted Seattle to spend some money and get us a young name G. I quickly recanted–the same day–and said hey, it cant hurt us to bring him in for a look.

    I said the same thing about Alex Barron. And folks were still bitching about Barron being there a week or two ago. Now everyone loves Lutui…hopefully Barron is next, and hopefully Kellen Winslow is as good as advertised as well. But I think its hilarious how vehemently folks were calling for Carrols head just for giving those guys a chance.

    Hippocrates arent limited to Niner Fans I see.

    And Im stoked with our draft. Irvin, Wilson, Wagner, and Winston Guy will all contribute right away, and I think Howard will as well. Add to that promising UFA like Phil Bates, Jermaine Kearse, and Donny Lisowski, and it was a damn fine offseason for bringing in rookies.

  30. Toomer should at least be a force on special teams as well. Im excited, cant wait for preseason.

  31. bbnate420 says:

    Writing down opinions with no factual backing seem familiar STTBM?

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