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Morning links: Giacomini brings the pain

Post by Eric Williams on May 31, 2012 at 7:23 am with 42 Comments »
May 31, 2012 7:23 am
Seattle Seahawks offensive tackle Breno Giacomini against the Arizona Cardinals during an NFL football game Sunday, Jan. 1, 2012, in Glendale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Paul Connors)

Dave Boling of The News Tribune talks with Breno Giacomini about his steady improvement.

In Year 3 with the Seahawks, Giacomini earned a two-year, $6 million deal and the starting right tackle job heading into the 2012 season. The University of Louisville product represents the tough, nasty attitude offensive line coach Tom Cable wants his guys to play with.

Boling: Have you ever seen those levered devices into which you place a soda can to crush it flat for recycling? On occasion, Giacomini, a 6-foot-7, 320 pound offensive tackle, becomes that device.

Defenders are the can.

It goes like this: Giacomini gets his hands on a defensive end’s shoulders, and physically crumples him to the ground. Maybe it’s holding; maybe it’s assault and battery. But it’s danged impressive.

And recycling is good for the environment.

My story today focuses on Seattle defensive end Jason Jones, a power forward in high school who turned to football his junior year while growing up outside of Detroit.

ESPN’s John Clayton takes a look at the trend in trades for offensive skill players for late-round picks and predicts a drop in production for Seattle’s recent addition tight end Kellen Winslow.

Clare Farnsworth of focuses on the impressive performance of tight end Kellen Winslow in his Wednesday practice report.

Bob Stelton and Dave Grosby of ESPN 710 Seattle talk with rookie defensive end Bruce Irvin in this audio link.

Brock Huard and Mike Salk of ESPN 710 Seattle talk with offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell in this audio link.

Jack Becta of the National Football Post lists 10 reasons why NFL players go broke. It’s a good read.

Morning links
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  1. Boy, Schneider has really improved the depth and talent on the offensive line. I’m hoping for 1,500-plus yards from Marshawn — and another 500 from Turbin. How many days until the first preseason game?

  2. chuck_easton says:


    No fair throwing a question like that out there when you have someone with ADHD/OCD on here (me…guilty).

    I HAD to go look up the answer or I wouldn’t be able to get anything else done.

    August 11 vs. Titans

    73 days from now.

  3. SandpointHawk says:

    1740 Hours…

  4. Sorry, Chuck, but I’m happy to have the answer. 73 days doesn’t seem so long.

    You’re in Calgary, right? How have you adjusted to the winters? I’m in Winnipeg (used to live in Pennsylvania) and the winters are miserable. Do you follow the CFL too or just the NFL? I can’t help following the CFL a little too.

  5. chuck_easton says:

    I enjoy winters here in Calgary. Give me -20c and sunny with snow on the ground over cold wet rainy (chill you to the bone) any day. I also got to learn to ski.

    I do follow the CFL. It’s not ‘real football’ but it’s entertaining. Also you can walk right up to the stadium on game day and get tickets for the family.

  6. Ewalters7354 says:

    The Bruce Irvin interview was pretty fun to listen too.Hope he stays healthy so he can harass the QB.

  7. The CFL would be better if they didn’t reserve so many spots for Canadian players. I don’t believe in that — I think you’ve got to play the best player available, regardless of nationality. Of course, I’m sure it goes on in many leagues around the world.

  8. chuck_easton says:


    Don’t mind the Canadian vs. Import player rule. Especially when I have a 15 year old that is 6′ 1″ 215lbs and plays Canadian football. He’s dual citizen so if he keeps growing he could play in the CFL some day.

  9. slicktoxic says:

    Chuck, I’m just south of you in Canada….and feel the same way about the CFL….it is very entertaining, but not quite as exciting as the NFL. Been a Seahawks fan since 1980….got season tickets, and try and make at least a couple of games each year.
    Without the Canadian/import rule in the CFL there would be very few Canadians playing in the league.
    I think it’s kind of a necessary rule.

    On to Seahawks…..I am really looking forward to this year….it’s been a long time since I’ve had this kind of excitement and expectations for a season!

  10. “it’s been a long time since I’ve had this kind of excitement and expectations for a season!”

    Yeah, me too. I just hope we’re not disappointed — as we were in 2004, 2002, 2000 and almost every year in the Dennis Erickson era (when the Seahawks always seemed to be on the cusp of doing something special).

  11. Listening to the Bruce Irvin audio, he sounds like a guy with his head on his shoulders and is willing to learn from the vets. It will be awsome to hear the home crowd when he gets his first sack at the CLink…

  12. Soggybuc says:

    I found it interesting when talking about learning from vets Irvin said HOPEFULLY it will be from Clem.
    Something going on there for sure.

  13. chuck_easton says:


    What defines a successful season this year? I quess now is as good a time as any to start the debate.

    1. Division champ and play-offs?
    2. wild card?
    3. 8 or more wins?
    4. more competitive in every game, win or lose?

    Of course, the rose colored glasses and the kool-aid are telling me to say Superbowl or bust. But is that realistic this season?

    I’d like them to be in the running for the Div title and a play-off berth, but is that too optimistic this soon into the rebuild?

    Is a visible improvement in overall team performance but falling short of the play-offs enough to keep us somewhat content heading towards 2013?

    (2013 is the year I’m predicting the Seahawks go all 2005 again).

  14. Hammajamma says:

    For me a successful season is pretty simple: Playoffs.

    Seeing growth and an entertaining team is some consulation, but I’m after results. I think we’ll get both. Very intruiging team in year three.

  15. I would say 9-7 or better would be a success. 9 wins in the NFL doesn’t always guaranty playoff bound. Also being able to put away a team when they have the opportunity.

  16. Winning the Superbowl is the goal. We’ve done everything else.

  17. Dukeshire says:

    Chuck – Reasonably, I think a playoff win would make this a successful season. That said, I do believe there are so many different circumstances that surround a season, they can have a “successful” year without a playoff win.

  18. I still must be a “national media guy” – I am not feeling that we are going to be that improved – I think 8-8 9-7 is more like what will happen.’

    Our Line is not significantly improved – yes they played better at they end of last year – but they did the year before as well. We are also having 4/5 expected starters replaced or coming off of injuries.

    I love my Hawks but I want to see more improvement before I am overly optomistic

  19. Dukeshire says:

    Red Bryant is on Sirius XM NFL Radio right now, being interviewed.

  20. SandpointHawk says:
  21. Dukeshire says:

    I caught the last 7 or 8 minutes of the interview; nothing earth shattering. Afterwards however, Ryan and Kirwin were kicking around the idea that Red might kick inside on passing downs, when Irvin comes in at LDE. Maybe, but I don’t see it. He’s not a guy who’s a 3 down player. They might play with the idea of using him in a rotating at NT, but even then, he was moved out to end for a reason and that reason is that he’s not terribly effective inside. But it will be fun to see how they use their d-linemen in which grouping and packages.

  22. Dukeshire says:

    Florio interpreting what Harbaugh said? Good luck trying to decipher the truth between those two…

  23. Jim Harbaugh is so full of crap, he actually believes the BS that comes out of his own mouth. Sure, they didnt pursue Manning; even given Semantics, thats an outright lie.

    Who cares though? Harbaugh is an utter douche, but he’s achieved remarkable success in his one year in the NFL. The only way to shut that turd up is beat his team like a red-headed stepchild every damn time we play them. Or at least two of three.

    I flat dont care if we win a playoff game, so long as we beat the Niners twice. Thats all I want–that and good qb/line play. If we do that, I can handle 8-8 or 9-7 and no playoffs or a loss in the first round.

  24. Sarcasticus says:

    I loved the interview with Red. He talked about how good Irvin and Jason Jones has looked. He was really impressed with Winslow Jr.

    He talked about how he plans to come into camp “near” his playing weight of 325. Tim Ryan said he’d love to box him, and Big Red said the longer the fight went on the better the chance Ryan had. “Big guys get tired.”

    I especially liked when he talked about Mr. Green and how he is still coaching him up. “If someone is willing to help you, it is your responsibility to listen.” I love this guy.

  25. The Cowboy game is a must win to me besides the two 9er games.

  26. To me — making the playoffs this year makes it a successful season for this team – and if we surpass the Niners to take the division and/or win a playoff game, then it’s a big-time success.

    If Flynn or Wilson becomes a real above-average QB, then I’m hoping for a playoff run the following year.

  27. bbnate420 says:

    Either making the playoffs and having a good showing, i.e. at least being very competitive in one game, or winning 10 games if we miss the playoffs is success to me. I think it’s probably unrealistic to expect a deep run in the playoffs until 2013. If either Flynn or Wilson is the starting QB, they are first year starters and I think they will need a year to really get acclimated to being a starter. That’s especially true if Wilson starts as he is a rookie.

  28. ryanryan says:

    Eric – i don’t like that clem is absent. he is, afterall, playing this year for a new contract whether it be here or somewhere else. has he given an interview or has his agent made a statement regarding his whereabouts or state of mind? would love to know.

  29. Palerydr says:

    A successful season for me is beating the 9ers twice and at least 8 wins. I see a real rivalry between us and the 9ers. We have a managable schedule IMO and with our defense teams are gonna have a tough time with us.

  30. montanamike2 says:

    A successful season for me is making it into the second round of the playoffs and still leaving strong for future optimism.

  31. Dukeshire says:

    Pale – Defenses are going to have a hard time as well. Running games travel well, and this Seahawks team is one Chuck Knox would be proud of. The colder the weather gets, the better they will play.

  32. For me, a successful season is a winning record or a losing record that comes with a division title and playoff win over the defending Super Bowl champs! I’d like to see a Top Five defense and a Top 15 offense too. The most important thing is improvement. I think we definitely saw improvement last year. It needs to continue, so we can legitimately dream of a Super Bowl in 2013 or ’14.

  33. Macabrevity says:

    I’ll be happy as long as we don’t go to the superbowl and lose it to bad ref calls, and then see the team crumble to dust in the season(s) to follow :)

  34. piperfeltcher says:

    Wow did not realize that many people on here are in Canada. I am in Ottawa but grew up on the west coast.

  35. montanamike2 says:

    I grew up in BC and ended up here, i have duel citizenship.

  36. NYHawkFan says:

    I looking forward to having the Seahawks make the playoffs this year, but perhaps more importantly, I’d like them to make some headlines in the national press. The NFC West has been dogged for too long. I’d like the Seahawks to pound some East coast teams, especially the Jets, because I live in NYC and they’re all you hear about here(besides the Giants, of course). With Seattle on the rise, and SF making some waves last year, maybe, just maybe we’ll get some props from the national media.

  37. I think a successful season is improving the win/loss record from last season. However, if we compare this year to last year, I don’t think that’s fair (even though that’s what we’ll do). Each year brings new obstacles, as Duke alluded to.

    For example, the team last year “could have” gone 14-2 if everything had gone right in all its games and “could have” finished 4-12 if everything had gone wrong. I think they went 5-9 (NFL record book shows 7-9), as I don’t know that we will ever play a team as terrible as the Rams were ever again (after they had been crippled by injuries unlike any team I’d ever seen with that bad of depth).

    Add to that the unusual amount of horrible opposing QBs that we faced last season and I doubt that will happen again. We may end up outside the top ten in defense this year, but be a better defense because we won’t have gone against as many utterly horrible QBs that we faced last season to inflate the stat sheet.

    Of course, we all know that by looking at the schedule that we’re going to have some easy wins that will end up losses and we’re going to win some games that we may think we’ll lose. That’s the way it goes every year. Just don’t ever ask the masses to define a season on a Sunday evening. If the team wins, people will think they are better than they are and if they lose people will have them sucking worse than even the week 14 Rams team from 2011 (even if they have a winning record).

    Ultimately, I want/expect a Super Bowl win in ’12. However, I would *settle for a play-off berth and losing in the 1st round if the game were competitive and all of us could talk about how we “could have” or “should have” won that game (had Marshawn not fumbled inside the 10 in the 4th quarter or whatever the excuse may be).

    My expectation is that they will be extremely young (duh) and will grow together and a QB will be developed to the point of being fully ready to rock in their second year as a starter in 2013. The only thing I don’t want is for them to go with Flynn this year and then decide next year that Wilson is the guy so we have to go through another year of a first time/year QB. If they decide to go with Wilson, then go to him this year (at some point so he gets significant snaps, not simply a start of two) so we’re not messing around with another year of a greenhorn at the position. Ideally, Flynn takes this job for a decade and nobody else gets a chance.

  38. LaCroix says:

    10 Reasons? How about summarizing them into 1 reason – they’re stupid!

  39. Sarcasticus says:

    I applied for a duel citizenship, but they told me dueling was illegal nowadays. Who knew?

  40. Palerydr says:

    Ah yes Duke “Ground Chuck” and a rock ribbed defense those were the days. Curt Warner is my second all time fav Hawk. Truth be told I expect a division crown but as many have pointed out we haven’t played a game yet so I’m trying to temper my boundless optimism for this team. I LOVE a hard hitting defense as they can make game changing plays at any time. With a solid ground game and a QB that can get us a win in the 4th(I expect that QB to be Flynn this year) I think we can go far.

  41. Love watching Breno run block. Love his attitude. Cringe when I see a good edge rusher coming at him in pass protection.

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