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Morning links: Memorial Day links

Post by Eric Williams on May 28, 2012 at 9:11 am with 29 Comments »
May 28, 2012 9:13 am
A Seattle Seahawks football team flag, left, flies with the "12th man" flag, symbolizing the team's fan base, along with an American flag in front of the team hotel, the Hyatt Regency, Sunday, Jan. 29, 2006, in Dearborn, Mich. The Seahawks play the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Super Bowl Sunday, Feb. 5, in Detroit. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

I hope you are enjoying Memorial Day by relaxing and getting that barbeque going. But let’s not forget the purpose of today – to remember those who lost their lives so we can enjoy the lifestyle we have today.

With that, I direct you to this piece by Ken Crippen, executive director of the Pro Football Researchers’ Association, who provides a list of NFL players who gave the ultimate sacrifice and died for their country. also has a cool look at NFL players over the years who have served our country.

An ESPN poll ranks the Seahawks as the 18th most popular team in the NFL nationally.

ESPN’s Mike Sando provides his dream/nightmare scenario for Seattle in the upcoming season. The Dream –12-4. The nightmare — finishing 6-10.

Dan Pompei of the National Football Post quotes a source that says Mike Williams’ struggles in 2011 stem from the physical receiver reverting back to his old ways and not showing up in top physical condition, which resulted in nagging injuries that limited his production. Both Seahawks general manager John Schneider and head coach Pete Carroll have basically said the same thing publicly this offseason.

KJR’s Ian Furness and Hugh Millen talk about the Seahawks OTAs in this audio link.

ESPN’s John Clayton talks with Earl Thomas in this audio link, which includes his description of the dust up between Ben Obomanu and Doug Baldwin.

Patriots offensive guard and cancer survivor Marcus Cannon gives an Iraq war veteran a surprise by offering his hunting cross bow to him for free after he advertised hit on Craigslist.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated discusses how moving the trade deadline from Week 6 to Week 8 can have an affect on the upcoming season.

Sam Monson of breaks down the different defensive line prototypes, from 0-technique Vince Wilfork of New England to 9-tech Jason Babin of Philadelphia.

No Seattle player makes this list of the league’s top 10 defensive ends and defensive tackles.

Morning links
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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Really well said, Eric.

    Great look by Monson. A really nice overview and breakdown.

  2. Ewalters7354 says:

    I agree with the report about BMW.Once he got paid he seemed to loose the motivation that he had just the year before.It looked like he was taking plays off and etc…but this is no longer a roster
    that needs him with the youth,hunger and skills to replace him.So with that being said I think he will go on the PUP list and struggle to get playing time once he comes back.

  3. chuck_easton says:


    If BMW is already practicing in OTA’s it’s likely he’s been cleared for camp. Can’t PUP him unless he sits out all of camp and is never put on the active camp roster.

    For Big Mike it’s either go hard or go home. He has to make this roster out of camp or there is no reason to keep that big unguaranteed salary on the books.

  4. Eric, can you provide a link to Carroll and Schneider saying the same thing publicly this offseason? I missed it and I’m intrigued.

  5. How is Red Bryant not a top 10 DE? You can’t blame BMW’s injuries on fitness. The only one I could see even being part conditioning would be his hamstring, you can’t blame a concussion, fractured ankle or broken fibula on conditioning. I can see it being Rice, BMW, Baldwin, Lockette, Tate, and unless PC finds a way to keep 6 Butler being the odd man out which makes me very sad. Butler just needs to stay healthy, and beat Tate out to make the team.

  6. wabubba67 says:

    Difficult to believe that Mebane isn’t one of the 10 best defensive tackles in the league….Hitler would agree with that too.

    Look up Hitler and Marshawn Lynch on YouTube for a few great laughs.

  7. JazBadAzz says:

    Health nor money had anything to do with BMW getting injured!

    Earl did the right thing, ain’t no punks on our team from 1 to 53, they all should be ready to fight for their brothers!

    Sando’s nightmare scenario is scary as hell!

    Unfortunately we will be cutting some good players from our wr unit, dang, I hate to see them go!

  8. seahawk44 says:

    Hawks85-That leaves Obomanu & Durham as out Also.
    I think they keep 6 wrs on the roster & there will still be a few deserving players get cut.
    I believe BMW is on the outside looking in. His commitment has always been questionnable & the addition of Winslow, who could provide what BMW can and more, will spell the end unless he can get his ass in top shape.

  9. Ewalters7354 says:

    Chuck,last I checked BMW has yet to participate in any off season activities.There have been reports that he can’t change direction.So with that being said I don’t think he makes the team.He is just a big target with no speed or route running.The hawks have young guys that can easily replace his production.He had one good year but those were average stats.Just my opinion.

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    With the signing of Winslow, I doubt that the Seahawks will keep 6 wrs.

    I just hope they all stay healthy this year! That goes for the o-line too!

  11. Hawks85 says:

    Forgot about Obomanu. BMW number were certainly down, but how much of that has to do with QB play? Tavaris, and Williams certainly never got on the same page, but I think a healthy BMW, and Flynn could get along really well. He’s still got time to get in shape before training camp, lets see how things go. If we do cut him, I’m praying Rice can get healthy cause I don’t think we can win if our top 2 wrs are Baldwin and Obomanu.

    BMW’s shown he can get it done when healthy, something Tate, Butler, and even to a certain degree Obomanu hasn’t. I’d like to keep Durham if he can’t get it together.

  12. seahawk44 says:

    Georgia……if they only keep 5, who are they?
    Rice, Baldwin and.???

    I think the spots are filled by:
    Obomanu – valuable because he can play all we positions and is a top special teams weapon.
    Lockette – too much big play ability to let go.
    Durham – This guy is good. He will prove this and may become a starter opposite Rice.
    That is 5, but I think they keep 6 and it will be who performs better between Tate & Butler. BMW out.

  13. It seems to be the world (Doug Farrar, Brian McIntyre, etc) vs. Eric Williams on this one (the Mike Williams story).

    All the other writers seem to think that the story is without merit and claim management had no issues with Mike Williams work ethic last year. Eric is the only person I have seen report that Pete Carroll and John Schneider think Mike Williams is lazy.

    I just sent a tweet to Mike Williams about this. He’s usually good for a response. He went on a little bit of a tantrum last night claiming reporters don’t know anything and he was too busy counting his millions to care. Following him on twitter, I can say that I don’t care much for the guy as a person. I don’t care much about him as a football player either, but I don’t think it’s fair to label him lazy if it’s not true.

  14. chuck_easton says:


    BMW’s twitter last night shows the very problem with him.

    When he was highly drafted and had that big 1st round rookie contract he didn’t care enough to show up in shape and play. He ate himself out of the league. He didn’t care because he had his guaranteed millions.

    When nobody else would give him a chance except Seattle he showed up in 2010 and played his tail off because he was on a one year ‘prove it’ contract.

    2011 he gets the big multi-year deal and he’s right back to not caring. That comment he made last night about being too busy counting his millions to care is the problem.

    BMW only plays hard when his but is on the line. Right now he thinks he has it made. Guy better wise up and show something or it will be don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out time.

  15. HawkyHann says:

    I hope channel 89 and 83 turn into our 2nd and 3rd WR options.

  16. GeorgiaHawk says:

    seahawk44- After Rice and Baldwin it gets interesting. I don’t think they are going to give up on Tate yet even if he gets slightly outplayed by the others.
    Lockette and Durham will be fun to watch and see if they can take it to the next level!
    I’m hoping that a rookie will emerge like Baldwin did last year. Perhaps Bates?

    But to answer your question if they keep five, after Rice, Baldwin, and Tate it will be wide open. I don’t think Butler and Williams will make it though unless they have a very good camp.

    Who I think it will be-

    1- Rice.
    2- Baldwin.
    3- Tate.
    4- lockette.
    5- Durham or Obomanu.

    Who I would like it to be-

    1- Rice.- If can stay healthy.
    2- Baldwin.
    3- Tate.- because he can return punts too, however he is not a favorite of mine.
    4- Lockette.- speed. But not if he can’t learn to run routes good.
    5- Durham.- Not sure why? Perhaps because he is from around here. Lol.
    6- A rookie surpise like Bates.

    I didn’t pick Obomanu mainly because we got so much special teams talent from this years draft.

    I want 6, however I think the FO will keep 5 because of Winslow.

  17. pabuwal says:

    Mike Williams just isn’t that good. He’s big, slow, not physical and has questionable hands.

  18. “That comment he made last night about being too busy counting his millions to care is the problem.”

    Did he delete the Tweet? I can’t seem to find it.

  19. Dukeshire says:

    The only thing about Williams that is really valuable, as I see it, is his ability it play the X (split end). Of course Rice and Obo can, but that’s not their best positions. And understand, Williams himself, is not terribly proficient at beating man-press, but without another true X, it limits what they can do with Rice and other versatile receivers. One of my biggest hopes this summer is that someone will fill that role capably this camp, freeing them up to let Williams go.

  20. Dukeshire says:

    *only*… That’s not quite right. He does seem to make an effort to work with the young players, which I like. But as far as an on field contributor, that’s a different story

  21. jboard1 says:

    canfan, looks like he did. I saw thsoe tweets last night, just went back to look and they are not there.

  22. chuck_easton says:

    Another tweet from Williams that he as since deleted:

    “The only weight issues I have is when I leave my wallet in my jacket…so all you bullsh*t journalists and haters can’have a nice weekend’

    I was in his corner in 2010 , but the more I read his comments the more I want to see him fall flat.

  23. I can see why Williams would be upset about everyone talking about his physical condition — but he can’t respond like that. Better to use that to motivate himself and prove everyone wrong. I still hope he does. I think the Mike Williams of 2010 would earn a spot on this team, even with the young receivers challenging him. The Mike Williams of 2011 would not. Let’s wait and see what we get.

  24. jboard1 says:

    ^ agreed. I still like and have hope BMW the player, aside from his tweets. There is fierce competition, however, so may the best man win.

  25. Hammajamma says:

    What does BMW actually do well? He’s big, and has been able to use that advantage when he doesn’t get seperation. But Hass could throw to those small windows and TJ could not. He may have to work harder this year to make the team than he did in ’10. If he’s got something left and leaves his wads of cash on the sidelines, he could still have a role posting up 10 yards down field. PC still likes unique physical qualities.

  26. Macabrevity says:

    The question we should be asking ourselves is “who’s our #1 out wide when Rice goes down? What will the WR sets look like without Rice?”

    It’s pretty much a given.

  27. Palerydr says:

    To all my fellow Veterans out there THX.

  28. Agree 100% with Macabrevity –

    When (not IF) Rice goes down for a 3-4 game stretch, who is the #1 WR? Tate? Obo? BMW? Durham? Suddenly the WR position is in dire need of BMW having a bounce back year or Durham becoming a whole lot more that a “project”. PC needs to light a fire in BMW’s ass because as much as he might annoy people with his antics and stupid comments on Twitter, we probably need him to play a key role for the team.

  29. To be fair to Kris Durham we have no idea where he’ll be in his development come training camp, otherwise I agree.

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