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Hawks trade for TE Kellen Winslow Jr.

Post by Eric Williams on May 21, 2012 at 8:56 pm with 57 Comments »
May 21, 2012 9:14 pm
Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. (80) pushes away New Orleans Saints safety Roman Harper on an 18-yard touchdown catch in the third quarter of an NFL football game Sunday, Sept. 10, 2006, in Cleveland. The Saints spoiled the Browns' home opener, winning 19-14. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

The Seattle Seahawks confirmed this evening that the team has consummated a trade for Tampa Bay tight end Kellen Winslow Jr.

According to the team, Seattle gave up a conditional draft pick in 2013 to obtain Winslow.

UPDATE: ESPN’s Mike Sando reports Seattle gave up a seventh rounder that could be upgraded to a sixth rounder.

Winslow was asked by the Buccaneers not attend Organized Team Activities in Tampa Bay this week as the team worked to move him in a trade.

Winslow has three years remaining on his current contract and is due to make $3.3 million in base salary 2012.

The Seahawks had been looking to add a veteran tight end to the mix, and had Jacob Tamme and Visanthe Shiancoe in for visits during the first few weeks of free agency.

Tamme ended up signing with Denver, while Shiancoe still remains on the market.

Winslow is the pass-catching tight end Seattle had been looking to add to the mix after John Carlson signed with Minnesota in free agency.

Winslow has averaged 73 receptions a season for the past three years in Tampa Bay. And the Seahawks got a up-close look at his production two years ago in Tampa, when he caught seven passes for 98 yards and two touchdowns in a 38-15 win over the Seahawks on Dec. 26, 2010.

At 6-foot-4 and 240-pounds, Winslow was a first-round selection by Cleveland in 2004. He finished with 219 passes in four seasons with the Browns, including a career-high 89 in 2006.

He was voted to the Pro Bowl in 2007. Winslow turns 29 on July 21.

For his career, Winslow has 437 receptions for 4,836 yards and 23 touchdowns. He caught 75 passes for Tampa Bay last season, leading the team in receptions.

Seattle now has seven tight ends on the 90-man roster.

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  1. pabuwal says:

    He’ll be better than Miller even if his knees are worse than they were last season.

  2. VNHLNFAN says:

    how old is this guy?

  3. OregonHawk says:

    If they let Miller out to run a pattern, he will be better than last year! This makes the team better.

  4. OregonHawk says:

    Height: 6-4 Weight: 240 Age: 28

    Born: 7/21/1983 San Diego , CA

    College: Miami (Fla.)

    Experience: 8th season

  5. kurtthekraut says:

    This is a nice pick-up. Averaged 73 catches last 3 seasons with Tampa Bay. This move was worth the risk.

  6. 75 catches last year for a 7th round pick (maybe 6th)? That’s a good deal. Best athlete we’ve had at the position since, when? Ever?

  7. shoehawks says:

    Sando says it is a seventh rounder that could upgrade to a sixth. A super deal.

  8. banosser says:

    Schwing.. !

  9. I don’t dislike the trade or Winslow – but I still don’t get why they won’t let the best pass catchering TE’s they have had the last 2 years even get out into a pattern.

    2 years ago it was Carlson, and last year Miller – there are IMO WAY better than they guys they would let out into the routes over the last 2 years.

  10. Ewalters7354 says:

    I love this signing but what’s gonna happen at the tight end position.Pete said he was pleased with the TE position but obviously they weren’t explosive enough.Good signing that can pay dividends come regular season.

    All we need is solid,smart play at QB like Matt offered and this team will be legit.Hope Flynn is another Matt Schaub(just a healthy version) and the Hawks can be in for a deep playoff run.Let’s go!

  11. grizindabox24 says:

    low risk/high reward move

  12. Wow. At first blush, I’m a little bittersweet about it. I still remember when he burned the UW Huskies b/c we didn’t have the ‘right’ TE coach. If healthy, he’s a tremendous talent but has been known for having a little too much attitude. Hopefully he’s matured and for such a low round risk, seems like a potential great opportunity.

    Beats the heck out of hands of stone McCoy.


  13. JazBadAzz says:

    Kellen signed and Shancoe not means this offense is not going to be as similar as we have been having. With a healthy line and letting the TE’s work could open things up for everybody!

  14. hawkdawg says:

    Would take Miller over him as an overall tight end any day of the week. But at this price well worth the shot, at least for a year.

  15. Wow this one kind of surprises me.This good be very interesting

  16. Strategicdust says:

    Interesting move. John and Pete must feel comfortable enough with the locker toom leadership to take on the risk of his behavior. His production has been terrific and the cost is certainly low enough. It’s also a great hedge against another Miller injury. Yet another reason it’s good to have salary cap room.

  17. Our locker room is filled with a lot of strong personalities. Strong in a good way. Also Marshawn gives us definite street cred as lame as that is for me to type. He’ll be okay if he can play ball.

  18. Soggybuc says:

    Could be a very nice dynamic in the 22 or 12 sets. with Miller and Winslow both on the field opponents will have to respect the play action and leave the box uncluttered.

  19. wabubba67 says:

    I don’t like bringing Winslow and his attitude into Seattle at all…he seems like Jeremy Stevens 2.0 to me. Would have preferred a signing of Clark (apparently TB did too) or Shiancoe over this…and neither one would have cost us a draft pick. Even though it is a 6th or 7th rounder, I have a lot of confidence in this front office to find young, healthy, team-oriented talent in those rounds (Winslow doesn’t have any of those traits).

  20. wabubba67 says:

    That said…I hope that I am wrong and Winslow becomes an All-Pro.

  21. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Although I like the acquisition, I have to wonder why he’d want to sign here? Seattle ruins Tight Ends–what I mean by that is we always keep them in to block, because our O-line usually can’t block without a TE. So TE’s barely get a chance to run routes and catch balls. The amount of catches he gets will probably get drastically reduced, like it did for Miller, and Carlson (excluding the one year when Carlson was our leading receiver).

    O.k., I have another question. I read an article that listed every teams’ leaders, but Seattle didn’t have one. We barely have any veterans on the roster–i.e., everyone good is only in their 2-3 season. Do we have a leader? I mean, the 49rs have Patrick Willis, The Ravens have Ray Lewis, I could go on. Who does Seattle have?

  22. Singularitarian says:

    Jeremy Stevens 2.0?
    Jeremy Stevens career high receptions in a season was 45, but he averaged about 20-25. The 2 are not even comparable

  23. Singularitarian says:

    I would say Earl Thomas is a leader, and Beast Mode. Ohh and Red Bryant

  24. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Earl Thomas and Beast Mode, at least so far, are more the lead by example types. Red Bryant maybe a leader, but if he is I don’t know it. I’m talking about someone who is vocal and inspires the team. It used to be Matt Hasselebeck, then it was Lofa, but now that they’re both gone I don’t know that Seattle has a visible, vocal, leader.

  25. VicHawk says:

    WOW! Next to the Pats we now have the best TE combo in the league! And we all saw what the Pats did with their 2 TE sets. (copy cat league?)

    Put 9 guys in the box to stop Beast Mode and then try to stop Winslow streatchin the field with a LB!

  26. SeattleBlue says:

    We traded for winslow, he was not a free agent so he didn’t choose to come here

  27. jawpeace says:

    I think that this helps the Hawks adds depth to the position and gives the Hawks a great #2 TE.
    I was surprised to read that he is still in his twenties as he will be 29 in July. It seemed like he has been around for a long time.
    Also I think Mccoy better really step it up as I think he is the most likely to be cut. Out of the big four on the team.
    I wonder how Winslow will respond to the up tempo practice speed? Carrol cut White fast and I believe he was higher than a seventh rounder. And TJ though had a high contract was loafing back to the huddle ignoring the coaches prompt to hurry got him a ticket out of Seattle. Point is Carrol will cut his butt fast if he does not perform.
    Last thought I was going to write the short Jr. for his name but could not do it for their will only be one Jr. in Seattle!

  28. HawksKD says:

    Red Bryant is the vocal leader of our defense…..easily.

    Hard to see on tv but that’s the man everyone crowds around before game time..

    Another reason his signing was huge.

  29. papasan says:

    pdway.. Best Tight end since… EVER????
    Ever hear of a big, strong, pass-blocking, butt-kicking guy named MIKE TICE???


  30. mquinn73 says:

    Nice move by the front office. High reward, relatively low risk (in terms of giving up a 6th or 7th round pick next year).

    BUT…. regardless of the talent at the position, we need to scheme better in order to get Winslow and Miller into opposition backfields.

    OregonHawk, xcman and others made the point (which I agree with) that we already had talent at TE over the last couple of seasons but didn’t utilise it…. whether we wouldn’t or couldn’t, I don’t know but I hope this move is a sign that Carroll intends to get more production from TE this season.

  31. piperfeltcher says:

    I root for whoever is a Hawk but this will be a test as I hate Winslow.

  32. vichawkfan says:

    Very positive signing. Adding a pro bowl talent for Fylnn at a 6-7th round price tag is crazy good.

  33. bbnate420 says:

    DisplacedSeahawksFan, the fact that you do not know that Red IS A VOCAL leader shows that you haven’t been paying attention, not that he isn’t a leader! Have you seen him fire up the troops before the game?
    Also, as Seattle Blue stated, we TRADED for him. He did not choose to come here. That’s probably a big reason that they did trade for him instead of trying to lure him here after the Bucs released him.

    Very good move in my opinion. Didn’t give up much. He is owed 3.3 mil next year and 4.5 in 2013, none of which is guaranteed. He has produced up to the level of Miller’s best year receiving the last 3 years! He is not nearly the blocker that Miller is but, I doubt he will be doing a lot of it here. I believe that he can be a good weapon for us for 2-3 years. Lastly, with all the talk about his knees, he has played in all 48 games the last 3 years. He is slowing down but, still has some gas in the tank!

  34. tribfan1 says:

    This was not a signing. This was a trade. Doh!

  35. chuck_easton says:

    Not sure where I fall on this trade I like the production. I don’t like the person or the attitude.

  36. Macabrevity says:

    KWII gets tagged with the attitude label a lot, but I think public perception on this is wayyyy off. What did he do wrong exactly? He referred to football as a ‘war’ when we had troops in the middle East – whoops! He went public when Cleveland tried to cover up a potentially life-threatening staph infection he got in the Browns medical facility – whoops! He plays at an intense level, and doesn’t understand the politics of the press…. that doesn’t translate into an ‘attitude problem’. PC/JS recognized they were getting a player whose only downside is his multiple knee surgeries. I think it’s hilarious the way the media label a guy and it sticks, like when they fabricated that whole “Shaun Alexander unhappy about getting pulled at the goalline” fight between him and Holmie, which never happened. The coaching decision happened of course, but not the fight.

    I don’t have any personal insight into KWII’s character, but I’m not going to buy into the stigma he somehow got stuck with for simply saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. I’ve played football, but never served in the military. The game sure felt like a war to me at times. Sorry if that’s somehow disrespectful to people out there risking their lives on a daily basis, but it’s just a linguistic device to help explain how somebody thinks or feels. I think the public is smart enough to realize the difference.

  37. JazBadAzz says:

    He’ll be fine, I believe Flynn needed that guy like Finley in GB. I honestly think our passing game will reflect some things GB did. If everyone is healthy I don’t see no way in the world they can play 8 men in the box on us. Rice and Doug alone would change that but this is another dynamic “play maker” (remember hearing PC saying he wanted one) for us to toy with! Hope he can get into OTA’s by tomorrow!

    Welcome to the fam KWII, get ready to have a blast with a great group of guys enroute to a championship really soon!

  38. JazBadAzz says:

    Btw- that motorcycle accident cause atleast a couple of knee operation. That was a dumb move but he hasn’t been on one since so that’s good. He is past his problems so let’s show the guy some love!

  39. RDPoulsbo says:

    It’s a pretty bold move. Last I heard, it was more likely he’d be cut than traded because of his salary. That’s why it’s only a conditional 7th that could be a 6th. Seattle is still way below the salary cap, so it’s not going to be as much of an issue. I don’t think it was a necessary move, but overall does improve the team.

    I don’t really get the character issues people are criticizing him for either. The only questionable thing I can think of was getting injured trying to do tricks on his bike as a rookie even when his contract specifically forbid riding motorcycles (Seattle has the same clause in their contracts). Even so, he owned up to it.

  40. JazBadAzz says:

    If you read about Big Red you would know he is a leader! There was a ton of articles about it this off season. I’m sort of in the same boat your in logistically but I make it a point to know my team and who are the core members. Ijs

  41. bird_spit says:

    Here is one article that makes me hesitant to want his attitude in our camp…hope to be proven wrong.

  42. bbnate420 says:

    Macabrevity, I completely agree with you. Some people in the media manufacture a controversy to drum up interest and it sticks with a player for life. People just parrot the same garbage over and over because they don’t take the time to really look into the player. People like to hold these players to a standard WAY higher than the one they hold themselves to for some reason.

    DisplacedSeahawksFan, it’s a shame but, your mom has already put everyone out of business in that arena!
    I will not respond further to your nonsense because, I don’t want to be blocked from commenting. You should hope you’re not. I won’t report you as I believe that anyone should be able to say anything they want on here but, the TNT runs the page and doesn’t feel the same way. I don’t know why you had to attack me like a 2 year old anyways? I guess you’re too insecure to take constructive criticism and handle dissenting views. Maybe some day you’ll be all growed up! I was just pointing out that Red is a vocal leader on the team and that you don’t exactly have to be PC to see that. Lastly, what’s your excuse for not being able to decipher that Winslow was traded here instead of signing? I guess the coverage you saw, i.e. this page, didn’t mention that. Oh wait, it did!

  43. montanamike2 says:

    Winslow is a huge upgrade but i don’t think he’s better than Miller, almost as good though and our leaders will keep him in line.
    We wanted another TE because they’re the new untouchables. Although their seems to be some risk it will make our offense complete. Our FO made yet another great steal. This guy doesn’t have buttery hands and a giant mouth like Stevens did. We now have the firepower to run the 2 TE sets, We will be a nightmare to cover with options everywhere. This year is a huge upgrade in talent and we’re way ahead in our rebuild.
    The Seahawks are getting quite scary to play, especially at home!

  44. bbnate420 says:

    bird_spit, I read that article and, I cannot see what has you worried about him. I didn’t have a problem with ANY of it. Players take part in a long and physically demanding/damaging season. They have the right to go home in the OFF-SEASON! He’s a veteran. You cannot argue with his results. He has a bad right knee and, maybe it’s better for him to stay home and rest/treat it there. It’s his body. These OTA’s are VOLUNTARY! Some people seem to forget that.

  45. montanamike2 says:

    If your worried about his attitude throw him a snickers bar when he takes the field.

  46. Hammajamma says:

    This move plays to Flynn’s strengths: quick, intermediate routes in the middle of the field.

  47. This guy compares to Mike Williams, size wise; 6-4 vs. 6-5 and 240 vs. 235. I’m sure Kellen’s hands are as good or better and we know he has to be faster. I see this guy spending a lot of time outside and Mr. Williams spending a lot more time on his couch.

  48. bird_spit says:

    Hey, I said hesitant, not against. I hope he comes in with an attitude on game day, and Pete and the trainers get him physically up to his own standards. He also didn’t volunteer to come to the NW. Sorry, but I have been here long enough to know that if you don’t volunteer to be in the rain 9 mos of the year, then this place can eat at you. We send more CA natives home every year than arrive. Hoping it’s all good for the hawks..

  49. This has the feel of something the Patriots would do.

    The Pats trade a 4th round pick for Randy Moss and he explodes.

    The Pats sign Albert Haynesworth and he proves he’s a worthless pile of crap.

    I don’t expect the soldier to be as good or bad as either scenario above, but the risk is definitely worth the reward.

    This offense has a chance to be special if Flynn can play well and Rice can stay healthy. KII is still a really good talent. He’s better than anyone I thought they could get at this stage of the game and, actually, better than the starter for a majority of teams. Heck, he’s better than our starter (he’s just not a longer term answer like Miller is at his age).

  50. “This has the feel of something the Patriots would do.
    The Pats trade a 4th round pick for Randy Moss and he explodes.
    The Pats sign Albert Haynesworth and he proves he’s a worthless pile of crap.
    I don’t expect the soldier to be as good or bad as either scenario above, but the risk is definitely worth the reward.”

    Yeah, I agree with that. And the fact that it’s such a low-round pick makes this an easy call. I was hoping they might draft a TE – but getting a guy who had 75 catches in a lousy offense last year could really be a nice piece for this offense.

  51. ohiohawkfan says:

    DisplacedSeahawkFan – There are few of us Seahawk fans around these parts. What part of OH do you hail from?

  52. Soggybuc says:

    What makes this nice is both KW and Miller can attack the seam from a 2 TE set. defenses will have to account 2 guys for that as there are not many Mikes that can cover ground fast enough to read first and catch up to these guys. you try to zone these 2 and they will catch balls all day.
    I seem to remember Marshawn’s big knock in Buffalo was bad attitude and that seems to work out well.

  53. @ Macabrevity, “I think the public is smart enough to realize the difference.”

    You don’t get out much, do you? lol

    I like the trade, he is a hell of an athlete, the price is low enough to account for potential injury issues, and am not really worried about any perceived or real attitude. Hell, this guy is a souljah!


  54. Macabrevity says:

    @JoSCh …. good point, you got me there :P

  55. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Ohiohawkfan, although I spent most of my life in Tacoma, I’m in Columbus, Ohio now.

    BBnate420 you are quibbling over a very asinine point–i.e., sign/traded. Secondly, I don’t like your tone. You should learn how to express a difference of opinion without sounding like what your mother has in her mouth right now.

  56. bbnate420 says:

    DisplacedSeahawksFan, you are the one who couldn’t handle a dissenting view without resorting to personal attacks like a 5 year old! Pot, meet kettle. Maybe you should look in the mirror buddy. You might not like what you see.

    And it wasn’t an “asinine” point! Someone else mentioned it as well. You said “I have to wonder why he’d want to sign here?” The point is that HE DIDN”T sign here! Don’t lash out at me to compensate for your illiteracy.

  57. raymaines says:

    This morning on the Mitch in the morning show, Mitch Levy had a guy from Tampa Bay on who had nothing good to say about KW2. Later, on one of the afternoon shows ESPN-710 had a different Tampa Bay guy on the air who he had nothing but good things to say about about KW2. Go figure.

    I hope it works. Time will tell I guess.

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