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Morning links: Hawks for sale?

Post by Eric Williams on May 16, 2012 at 7:56 am with 72 Comments »
May 16, 2012 7:58 am
Paul Allen, left, the owner of the Seattle Seahawks and the Portland Trail Blazers, sits with Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll before an NBA basketball game between the Blazers and the Utah Jazz Wednesday, April 18, 2012, in Portland, Ore. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

Dwight Jaynes of CSNNW.com, a veteran reporter in the Portland area for decades, writes that according to people he’s talked to Paul Allen might be willing to part ways with both the Portland Trail Blazers and the Seattle Seahawks as a package deal, and has had preliminary discussions about potentially selling both teams.

Here’s the paragraph you’ll want to read.

Jaynes:There is a persistent rumor that all of Allen’s sports properties are available, in one giant buy or individually. I was told by two separate sources that the total asking price for the Trail Blazers, the Rose Garden and his NFL Seahawks would be $2 billion — which is too high, particularly now with the values of NFL teams in something of a turmoil due to pending lawsuits from concussed former players.”

Allen denied the report that the Trail Blazers were for sale via twitter.

It’s an interesting report. I’ll make some calls this morning to see if it has any teeth to it. There’s been some thought around the league that Allen might be willing to sell because of his recent health issues, but I’ve heard nothing substantive to confirm that thought.

And really, if Allen hadn’t stepped up when he did the Seahawks likely would not be here. And if there was a good time to step away, right now might be it, with the franchise enjoying a record number of sellouts and fan interest. And it also could be fueling Allen’s desire to win a Super Bowl.

KJR’s Ian Furness talks with Jaynes about his report in this audio link. Fast forward to the 22-minute mark. Jaynes says he stands by his report during the interview.

Here’s my story from today on Alex Barron. He gives Seattle 15 offensive linemen on the 90-man roster.

Clare Farnsworth of Seahawks.com details linebacker Kory Toomer’s winding road to the NFL.

Brian McIntyre of NFL.com reports that former Seattle fullback Owen Schmitt has signed with Oakland.

ESPN’s Mike Sando writes that quarterback Tarvaris Jackson is on the hot seat in Seattle.

More Sando: He gives former Seahawks linebacker George Koonce a forum to talk about how he’s transitioned out of the NFL and dealt with life after football.

Elliott Harrison of NFL.com runs down all the QB competition around the league. Here’s what he has to say about Tarvaris Jackson vs. Matt Flynn. Harrison: “You don’t guarantee a guy $10 million and sit him for a player of Tarvaris Jackson’s ilk.”

Clifton Brown of the Sporting News gives Flynn the advantage as well.

Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports writes that Pete Carroll giving Russell Wilson a shot at the starting QB job demonstrates his lack of commitment to the position.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    I remember first hearing these rumors last season and hate the idea of anyone else owning the ‘Hawks. I want so badly, for this franchise to win a Super Bowl for Mr. Allen; he deserves a ring. As Eric said, without him, there would no longer be any Seattle Seahawks. He absolutely saved this franchise for this city. Whoever does step in to buy this team, whenever that is, I hope they have deep roots to the NW and the community at large.

  2. gonefishin69690 says:

    Agree Duke, let’s just hope it’s not Nintendo.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    BTW, I love how Allen calls out John Canzano. He’s a local (Portland) sports radio host and columnist and is a complete tool. He always takes the easiest positions possible while framing it as though he’s taking a real risk. On a local level, they don’t come much worse.

  4. dacmike says:

    Canzano is a complete tool I agree, ha ha. Love how Allen called him out on twitter.

  5. NWPoseidon says:

    All of our franchises need to be weary of selling to anyone that is not NW at heart. Plus after the sonic disaster I seriously doubt Mr Allen to sell to anyone that might take the team away

  6. Nooooooooo!

    I too would like to see the Hawks win a Superbowl for Paul Allen AND all the fans that have supported them for 35 years!

    IF however he were to sell, would Chris Hansen be a possible candidate? King 5 is reporting an arena deal is going to be announced today. Although I’d prefer to recreate the rivalry between the Blazers and Sonics, if it meant having one or the other, I’d prefer to have a team here obviously.

    Back to the Hawks, Jason Cole is a blow hard. He says PC is non-committal to the QB position. Really? How many franchise QB’s are out there and how many have we had in our entire existence?

    I’ve been a staunch supporter of Tjack thinking he hasn’t really got a fair shake here in his one year of shortened off season, decimated WR corp and shattered offensive line HOWEVER I can’t deny that Russell Wilson is really growing on me. Flynn could but there just isn’t as much info on him that I’ve found to be available on-line.

    Wilson reminds me of Mighty Mouse and I love the underdog mentality. I still trust PC that he’ll make the right decision, but I can honestly say this off season is shaping up to be the most intriguing off season for the Hawks I can ever remember.

    Is it September yet?

    GO HAWKS!

  7. dacmike says:

    If and when Paul Allen does sell the team in the foreseeable future, (thank god he bought the team when he did or there would be no Seahawks to talk about) I would like an owner with Jerry Jones’/Mark Cuban passion of the game only.

  8. Yikes, did someone mention Jerry Jones? lol. I love a passionate owner, yes, but the last thing I’d want is a meddlesome knowitall like Jones.

    Dukeshire, you make a strong point up top. Allen has given a lot to Seattle and he really does deserve to hold up that Vince Lombardi trophy as much as any owner in the league deserves it. Where would we be without him. Selling huge assets like he has can take awhile. I hope Pete and the Schneid get this team fully built and into the superbowl while Mr Allen is still owner and can still enjoy it.

    Its getting so close I think we can all taste it.

  9. dacmike says:

    Stevos, ha ha like I said Jerry Jones’ passion only and no meddleing agreed.

  10. Not sure where Mr. Cole is coming from. I have no special insight into PC’s thoughts, but it looks to me like he’s in a search mode regarding QB, and isn’t going to make a loose decision. The turnstile will stop once he has his own confidence developed in one guy as a long term solution. I don’t know the details behind how coach Landry did it that Cole refers to, but PC has, to this point, picked a guy each season and stayed with him as much as possible throughout, outside the injury factor.

    It does seem like he may have decided not to experience a repeat of last off-season, in which he passed on Dalton and was left thin on options for long term potential. Now he seems to have multiple long term options to consider, and a better opportunity for finding one he wants to stick with.

  11. beavercleaver says:

    I heard Clay Bennett is interested in buying them and he promises to keep them in Seattle. ;-)

  12. Crap on a stick! Notice how Allen only denied wanting to sell the Blazers, not one word about the Hawks.

    I hate the idea of the Hawks being sold, its been great having an owner who butts out but opens the checkbook freely.

    I certainly dont want another Behring/Smulyan/Nintendo/Shulz clueless bumbling tool owner, thats for sure.

    Now would be a good time to dump the Hawks though, what with the concussion lawsuit hanging over the game like an ominous black cloud. Grr! Not what I wanna hear!

  13. JazBadAzz says:

    Sell the hawks to Mark Cuban and move them to L.A.

    lol

  14. torinaga says:

    For $2 Billion he had better take the deal because he has found a rare thing, a person with the luck to become ultra rich and the drive to squander it away. Mr. Allen certainly didn’t make and keep his money that way.

    Based on the value of those two teams at the beginning of last year according to Forbes (997M for the hawks and 356M for the Blazers) that would value the Rose Garden at 650 Million. To give you an idea of how excessive that is the construction costs for the Clink were 430M according to the Wiki.

    This is a bunch of hooey.

  15. chuck_easton says:

    I only hope Mr. Allan holds on to the team at least until some other franchise has been relocated to LA.

    I can’t take a repeat of the Behring era.

    I love the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS with all my heart. I would refuse to root for the L.A. SEAHAWKS or the L.A. %@$ ( artists formely known as Seahawks).

  16. NYHawkFan says:

    STTBM – Funny, I haven’t heard that expression for years. My mom used to say “Crap on a crutch!” fairly often. Must be a PNW expression, because I’ve traveled all over the country and never heard it anywhere else but Washington. LOL

  17. bird_spit says:

    joreb – “I’ve been a staunch supporter of Tjack thinking he hasn’t really got a fair shake here in his one year of shortened off season”

    Dude borderline pornographic..

    TJack had all 2011 season to take/seize the starting job in 2012. With the obvious frustration of every receiver open to his left, he would fire that cannon of an arm to the right, into traffic. It is definitely time for a QB change. I think TJACK has shown his true passion for the position by playing through the pain. It is almost like he felt every game would be his last as a starter…well let’s hope PC makes those feelings a reality.

    I think Paul Allen wont sell the hawks with all of the excitement that is the Pete Carroll era. And rules dont allow him to move the Blazers to Seattle. So, get ready a glimpse at the “what that never was..” with all of these Paul Allen rumors.

  18. Glassett says:

    STTBM — Don’t worry too much about that Tweet. I live in the Portland Metro area and the Dwight Jaynes v. Paul Allen back-and-forth (this time–constant!) started back in March when only the idea of the Blazers selling was mentioned until just the other day.

    Seattleites, be happy you have good radio! I have to listen to most of this crap 24/7. That’s why I podcast Brock & Salk and all interviews from 710 and KJR a day late instead…

  19. jchawks08 says:

    Oh Lord, don’t bring up Radio Sports talk personalities on this blog, you foolish man/woman!!
    Get ready for more expert analysis for why Brock and Salk suck and Mitch in the morning is better than Groz and Callabro is better than Gas.. Ugh.

  20. chrisj122 says:

    I’m sticking with my opinion that Salk is a typical Eastcost short, hairy, loudmouth.

  21. chrisj122 says:

    “Eastcoast” Lol….

  22. footballscaa says:

    Hmm… No mention of not selling the Seahawks in that tweet. It is now evident that Mr Allen intends on selling the team. He’s turned on us. He’s abandoning the Puget Sound area. He wants to sell our team to Arabs! Let’s all start hating on him.

  23. jchawks08 says:

    Yea, personally I just listen to whoever is on until commercial break, then flip to the other until commercial break, then flip back. One vicious cycle. Unless the topic is Soccer or WNBA. Then I just stay away entirely. Sorry I’m not sorry.

  24. Glassett says:

    Yeah, I guess I’m used to all coasts… Everyone’s moving to Portland right now so I don’t notice his “Eastcoast-ness” as much. But, like whoever you like!
    Sorry, jchawks08, I forget that people care so much about other people’s opinions. Naivety is my best friend!

  25. I wish all the fans could buy a piece of the team: Paul Allen could sell 20 million shares for $50 each. Then, like the Packers’ fans, we’d never have to worry about our team moving. (I’ve never lived in Seattle or anywhere close, but I would never root for the L.A. Seahawks or any other version of the Seahawks. If the team moved, it would be a good time for me to become less obsessed with football, like my wife has always wanted me to.)

  26. chuck_easton says:

    footballscaa,

    We can’t hate Mr. Allen. He saved football in Seattle. He is our hero. Well, until he does sell the team some day. Then, of course, he will be hated, reviled, burned in effigy.

    Just like we LOVE our players. They can do no wrong. They are heros and gods. Until they sign with another team. Then they are worthless scum who shouldn’t be allowed to grace the field.

    It’s the way of the 12th man. Embrace the hypocricy.

  27. mocarob says:

    Maybe that’s why Nike is now on the jersey sleeve.
    At least the base would stay in the NW..

    Good thing Magic just bought the Dodgers, I’m sure he’s too busy with them to be interested in the Hawks..

  28. Tjack went 7-7 as a starter, playing a lot of the season with a torn pec. I saw some things that were good, others that were not so good. Didn’t come have any 4th quarter comebacks wasn’t ideal, but again he was playing hurt, makeshift line with an undrafted FA WR as his #1 option.

    I think he could surprise a few folks on this blog, but as I stated earlier, I’m pretty excited about Russell Wilson. Flynn could be the guy as well, but the ranting by a certain individual here has almost ruined it for me.

    Again, I hope the best guy wins the QB job. Heck, I hope the best guy wins every position and I’m sure PC will get it right. For it being our 3rd year, I personally have never been more excited.

    Tjack is a good dude. He might not win the job and yet I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he did. He has the most experience, has a good arm, is mobile and is respected by his teammates and coaching staff. Before Wilson, I was definitely pulling for him, but with Wilson I see the pendulum shifting. There is something about him or the IT factor. Time will tell, but the way the PC and JS have been gushing about him, I think come September he’ll be our Opening Day starter.

    GO HAWKS!

  29. Dukeshire says:

    I can’t imagine a scenario, any more, where Seattle would be allowed by the league, to relocate. The NFL wouldn’t allow this entire part of the country to go untapped, as popular as the league is now. Remember, the closest NFL teams are SF / Oak and Denver. No, this isn’t 20 years ago, thank god.

  30. RDPoulsbo says:

    There’s still 16 years left on the lease at the stadium, so it’s unlikely any new owner would be able to move them, not that I believe the story anyway.

  31. Hammajamma says:

    I can’t imagine that scenario either, but what do you think the league would’ve done if they couldn’t get a stadium deal done for the Vikings?

  32. chrisj122 says:

    I agree Duke, Seattle is by itself has good market size but when you include all of the NW (Oregon, Idago, Montana, Alaska ect.) it can’t be ignored. Some of these states don’t have the market size to support a franchise but are located close enough for football fans in these areas to adopt the Seahawks as their team. The Seahawks is considered to be the team of the N.W.
    Although it still hard believe that L.A. doesn’t have an NFL franchise considering its market size. There are a few teams however that are in danger of being relocated to L.A. (can you say Jacksonville Jaguars).

  33. MikePDX says:

    Jason Cole of Yahoo sports is full of crap.

    I think it is fair to say that in the first 2 years there has been a lack of commitment to the QB position. But this year they are putting resources into the QB position and appear to be trying much harder than before to fix that gaping need. Jason just pulled this BS out of his pie hole.

  34. kurtthekraut says:

    First of all, I dont believe the story. At least not at this point. Second,…even if Paul was to sell the Seattle Seahawks,..I am absolutely positive that there is no way he would sell to an ownership group that had any intentions whatsoever of moving the team out of Seattle. I hope he never sells and I hope the team can bring him a championship.

  35. Dukeshire says:

    L.A.’s already had the Raiders and Rams (Anaheim). How many more teams are they going to be allowed to poach, only to not support them?

  36. SandpointHawk says:

    Uh Dukeshire the Rams were Cleveland from 1936 to 1945
    In LA from 1946 to 1980.
    In Anaheim from 1980 to 1994.
    In ST Louis from 1995 to present…

    The only reason the Rams are in St Louis is Carroll Rosenbloom married a Vegas stripper who had him offed and then moved the team to her home town of St Louis.

    LA happens to be a great football town and the #2 TV market in America…

    We can Rock and Roll on this subject I was in the press booth for some of those years…

  37. SandpointHawk says:

    Just so you know Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum was seating 102 thousand when the Rams moved to Anaheim. They were only filling up 93 thousand seats and the NFL was blacking out local broadcasts…. Not much support at all. The Raiders downed the seating into the high 80′s by blocking off the end zones but never got close filling them because the natives never accepted them. USC vs UCLA is the only game that fills the Coliseum which was built in 1921….

  38. RDPoulsbo says:

    Over the past few years, I’ve heard rumors of at least 10 different teams being moved to LA and nope, it hasn’t happened yet. First and foremost LA doesn’t have a suitable stadium and given the budget environment, the city and state would have just as much problems building a new stadium as any other place, if not more.

    Personally, I have no problem with publicly funded sports arenas/stadiums. I see it as no different than buildings like the Seattle Center House for the arts.

  39. Dukeshire says:

    SandpointHawk – TV market is not in question. A great football town? Not for the NFL. They have no stadium and no team.

  40. raymaines says:

    Chuck Says: It’s the way of the 12th man. Embrace the hypocricy.

    Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Come On Man.

    We cheer for the laundry. There’s no hypocrisy in that.

  41. Soggybuc says:

    I would love for the Rams to relocated to LA, that just seems a natural fit but expecting to fill 102,000 seats every week is a bit much. build one that is 72 to 80 thousand and it will work.
    49′ers just broke ground on new digs about a week ago so Californias budget problems are not an obstackul.

  42. Dukeshire says:

    “… he said we won’t get the treasure we seek, on account of our obstackuls…”

  43. RDPoulsbo says:

    Jacksonville seems to be the team most likely to go to LA. The owner is constantly complaining about the hardships of his team being in a small market. The Bills are also often mentioned, but they’re more likely to move to Toronto and still keep the name.

    SF is a different situation than LA. There’s a lot of money there from Silicon Valley. LA is still, well, LA…though the league has 1 less hurdle now that Al Davis isn’t trying to sue the city and claiming it as his media market.

  44. “I can’t imagine a scenario, any more, where Seattle would be allowed by the league, to relocate.”

    I agree. Moving an entire city would be hard. The league shouldn’t allow that.

  45. Soggybuc says:

    HAHA, 100 pts to Duke for getting the reference.

  46. raymaines says:

    Stevos: That was seriously funny. I didn’t want to go there, but I’m so glad you did.

  47. raymaines says:

    not that my opinion counts for diddly poop, but if I were King Of The NFL World I would give Minnesota a new stadium, move the Rams to LA, move the Cardinals to St. Louis, and the Buffalo Bills to Phoenix.

    Re-align the divisions so that the NFC West would be Seattle, SF, LA, and AZ., and then let the other guys figure things out for themselves.

    I like being in the NFC, I’m not remotely interested in whatever Denver, SD, KC, and Oakland might have going on. I’m much more interested in the NYG, Packers, and Bears than NE, Indy, or the Jets.

  48. RDPoulsbo says:

    Duke is right about the NFL not likely wanting to leave the Seattle market. It may be mocked as South Alaska or the outpost in the NW, but the reality is Seattle brings a presence that’s a huge footprint in the region. Not only does it bring Seattle, but significant viewership in the Portland and Vancouver, BC media markets. The real money is made in the TV deals and that’s a huge loss if the Seahawks were to leave town. It’s no secret that the NFL badly wants to increase revenues from outside the US. Think about it, there’s no other rationale for teams giving up a home game to play outside the country. Canada is the easiest market to get those dollars. NE has Montreal and Halifax, Buffalo has Toronto, Detroit has Windsor, Minny has Winnipeg, and Seattle has Vancouver. Outside of Edmonton, they have a pretty good lock on the largest Canadian markets. There’s no way in hell the NFL would want to exit the 3rd largest media market in Canada when there are other teams that are better candidates to move.

  49. RDPoulsbo says:

    raymaines: Speak for yourself. I’d rather the Hawks be in the AFC. 20 years of rivalry with the Broncos, Chargers and Raiders doesn’t get thrown away that easily. I still don’t like any of those teams. Even now, I think there were better rivalries with those teams than any that have since happened in the NFCW. The Rams had potential, but then they turned into doormats. Everyone talked up the 49ers as a major rivalry at the time of realignment but even now that they’ve gotten better, I don’t feel it like when they’d take down the Raiders and get to hear Tom Flores whining about the Seahawks playing high school football in Seattle.

    …ah Flores, the only Seahawk HC I’ve ever rooted against.

  50. Dukeshire says:

    Stevo – Touché…

    Soggy(bottom boys…?) lol. I love that movie.

  51. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Wow! The natives are getting restless! I wonder how Allens health factor into these rumors?

  52. Dukeshire says:

    RD – I couldn’t agree more. I sorely miss those AFC West rivalries. The Broncos, Raiders, and Chiefs I hate to this day. (Especially the Raiders.) The Chargers always seemed harmless to me. Flores coaching the Seahawks was as ugly and unpalletable as it gets. There’s nothing in the NFC West that compares. The 9ers have potential now that Harbaugh is there. But still, it will take years of sustained bitterness to amount to anything that compares to Demver and Oakland.

  53. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Speaking of Seattle losing another team, perhaps we are on our way to getting one back!

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7938287/arena-plan-moves-ahead-seattle-lures-nba

  54. raymaines says:

    Seriously guys, if the Seahawks would have EVER beaten the Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, or Raiders we might have something to talk about. The Seahawks were the annual doormat. I’m glad for the new start.

    and for what it’s worth — probably nothing:

    I don’t think that “What The NFL Wants” is a valid point. It’s what any one of the current 32 owners wants that matters.

    More to the point, it’s what Ralph Wilson in Buffalo or Zigy Wilf in Minnesota, or whoever owns the Rams or Jaguars wants that matters. The second biggest TV market in the US is too big to be ignored. Somebody is going to move to LA. Please God, don’t let it be the Seahawks.

  55. RDPoulsbo says:

    I heard about that on 710 today Georgia. If they can land the Kings, whatever. I’ve checked out of the NBA long ago. I’m excited about the idea they could land the Coyotes though. It’s criminal that they’re in the playoffs almost every year recently, but be dead last in ticket sales in the NHL. I’ve been a Canucks fan for a while, but I’d love to see a rivalry with a team that’s disappointed me about as much as the Hawks. If bringing in the NBA is what’s needed to bring in the NHL, then make it happen. Still, I’d love to see hockey is Seattle.

    Duke: I forgot to mention the Chiefs in my previous post, but Okoye and Word were guys I hated more than any other player I can think of in the NFCW. The same goes with Fouts and Means. I know they could beat the Chargers most often, but there was just something about those guys I could never like. Gore is probably the closest to that of any player now, but it still doesn’t compare.

  56. RDPoulsbo says:

    raymaines: Just remember that the league has to ratify ownership changes. Seattle is a huge presence that goes beyond just the primary media market. To me, LA seems to have made the league more money than even they could imagine to date. If a team wants a new stadium, trot out the move threat and the stadium gets built. Meanwhile in LA, they’ve been raking in TV revenue by having the 2 best games of each week without blackout restrictions. The Raiders and Rams ran into those problems when they were there, but now they can have their cake and eat it too.

  57. Dukeshire says:

    raymaines – I would suggest you revisit the Knox years. Doormats? Far from it. If one became a fan during the dark ages of the 90s, then I understand. But that’s a selective history.

  58. JRocket says:

    I like the idea that we would have the SuperSonics back. I hated when they took that off the name. From our AFC West days I still can’t stand the Broncos, especially since Mr. Ed is still in the picture over there.

  59. If you hate on Paul Allen… you’re an idiot. If you care about the Seahawks, you care about him, too.

    Even though I have NO ties to the PA NW, I grew up rooting for the SEATTLE Seahawks.

    You can’t hate on a guy who saved the team for that city.

    And for the idiots who don’t think that one penny should be used for stadiums… I did a little research and it turns out that Ndamukong Suh will pay about as much in taxes to the state of Minnesota as the average Minnesotan makes in total income each year. And that’s for one day of work in the state even though he’s a Detroit Lion. That’s over $40,000 that he singlehandedly pays to the state coffers in which the money is used for things like education, health care, and “crap” like that. You take the Vikings out of Minnesota and you take that money with it. I hate fools who are too stupid to understand this. And yet these are the same idiots who work for company “X” in a community and that company pays basically nothing in taxes due to a “tax incentive” to keep the company there so they can collect the taxes of the workers who work for that company.

    Just venting… that felt good!

    And, yes, the Vikings deserved to kick in about half of the stadium costs, too. I would have been against it if the state would have had to pay all or most of it.

  60. Macabrevity says:

    Seattle always took care of business at home in the AFC West, and we always OWNED the Chargers for some reason. Going to Denver or K.C. was always tough, but we had San Diego’s number.

  61. P.A. may very well be the best owner in the NFL. Certainly in the top 5. Say it ain’t so, Paul!

  62. Dukeshire says:

    Denver and KC are as hard of road games as it gets, league wide, to this day. In KC, that sea of red is right on top of your ass. The team may be good or may be bad, but the Chief faithful give no quarter. And Denver’s altitude alone is an amazing advantage. Not to mention the old Mile High was made basically of wood, and rocked and swayed, very uncomfortably, when that place got loud.

    Bobby – I love it!

  63. As far as my all time hatred of any sports franchise goes, Denver takes the cake. The Raiders were in the neighborhood but Elway seals the deal. Usually holding an opponent to 3rd and long would leave you feeling good about that down. Johnny boy thrived on those downs and more often than not pulled something out of his ass that had me pulling out my hair. We had some great battles.

    Got to watch a video(yes an actual video tape) of the @DEN game during Kurt Warner’s rookie year. Boy was seriously bad ass in them days.

    K.C. and Diego never reached the same hatred level for me even though we lost plenty of games at Arrowhead.

  64. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK- The Barney Fife of this blog! Lol. Btw- who is hating on PA?
    Like I said the Barney Fife of the blog!
    We do need a drama queen though! Little substance but lots of laughs!

    Idiot stupid, idiot stupid, Idiot stupid! My God Dukeshire, tell your pet to put a lid on it! Lol.

  65. LouieLouie says:

    L.A. has no NFL franchise because they are one of the smartest cities in the USA. They gave the one-finger-salute to the temperamental tycoons who were trying to extort money from the tax-payers for a big expensive stadium. When the Rams and the Raiders threatened to leave town, the taxpayers said “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.” Neither team is very happy in their current digs.

    If more cities handled the NFL owners like LA, the owners would have to build their own freaking stadiums and there wouldn’t be so many movements of franchises. The Dallas Cowboys built their own stadium with private money.

    At least here in Washington, the taxpayers got to vote on the deal before it was done. Even though I was regularly going to games, I thought for almost a billion dollars of taxpayer money (counting road work et al.), the LA Seahawks didn’t sound too bad. I voted against the initiative.

  66. bird_spit says:

    The wife and I split that vote..no income tax here, so no money flowing from the players for home games. I dont care, cause I’ve been through the loss of a franchise or two. Prior to the Sonics, I was a Cleveland Brown homer…that move to become the Raven’s…I hate the Ravens, and never felt good about the new brownies.

  67. bbnate420 says:

    Everyone just TAKE A DEEP BREATH! Just a story by a couple of idiots. Could come to fruition but, NOTHING substantive yet!

    I’m ok with public funds being PARTIALLY used to fund arenas but, they should come from sales taxes on tickets and on services in the areas that are benefited from the stadium and team. Also, the team should have to sign an agreement that the team cannot be relocated for the LIFE OF THE STADIUM, not just the LEASE!

  68. ryanryan says:

    the departure of the sonics was the first time i’ve had to go through a ‘break up’ with a team that i loved.

    it makes me angry that a deal is being done for a new arena only 3 years after they’ve gone. not enough time has passed for me to adopt the ‘new’ sonics easily, it’d be a rebound (pardon the pun) relationship that wouldn’t carry the luster of the old one. i think the only way for me to be able to embrace this soon (assuming it happened quickly) would be to put the sonics in the same division as the thunder so there could be an instant rivalry to fuel the fire.

    i don’t follow the nba like i used to, i’m sickened by whole freaking debacle. while publicly i have denounced the thunder, in all honesty i find it difficult NOT to root for them, wearing my payton jersey.

    and can anyone tell me why the utah jazz have adopted the sonic color scheme…WTF?

    paul allen has done his part, if he wants to sell the team i just hope he doesn’t pull a shultz and get bamboozled along witht he rest of seattle.

  69. As long as we are referencing movies,,,,,,,

    ,,,,”in Philadelphia it’s worth 50 bucks” it=Seattle :)

  70. RDPoulsbo says:

    Breno is a lot better than people give him credit for. He’s known throughout the league as a failed Packer, but he really did well toward the end of the year. I have no problem with him starting this year.

  71. Dukeshire says:

    Breno’s come a long way. He did struggle, in very limited time, in GB, and didn’t look worth a damn when he first got here. But, he’s clearly busted his ass and improved quite a bit. Give Schneider credit for seeing that in him, and getting him over here.

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