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Morning links: Local players look to shine

Post by Eric Williams on May 14, 2012 at 7:28 am with 93 Comments »
May 14, 2012 7:28 am
Lakes High product tight end Kavario Middleton. (Corky Trewin/Seattle Seahawks)

The Seattle Seahawks rookie minicamp over the weekend offered a rare opportunity for local prospects to show what they can do for the team they grew up rooting for as kids.

In my story today, tight end Kavario Middleton and defensive tackle Renard Williams are two players who took advantage of that opportunity.

A Parade All-American and ranked as the No. 2 tight end in high school, Middleton saw his college career take a detour when the University of Washington dismissed him after his sophomore season for team rules violations, which reportedly included a failed drug test.

But Middleton landed on his feet at the University of Montana, where he played two seasons for the Grizzlies, helping them reach the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision playoff semifinals as a senior.

“It was a humbling, humbling development for me,” Middleton said. “But it was fun. I met some cool people over there.

“Being a local city kid from out here, and going out there, it was quite the transition for me. But it helps you grow up quickly and learn from your mistakes.”

Here’s my story on Russell Wilson joining the starting quarterback competition. Seattle head coach Pete Carroll said he managed a three-way quarterback battle in 2009 at USC between Matt Barkley, Aaron Corp and Mitch Mustain, a competition true freshman Barkley ultimately won.

Clare Farnsworth of wraps of up the final practice of the three-day rookie camp with this report. Carroll said that running back Robert Turbin had an excellent camp.

More Farnsworth: Carroll will get his first look at how Wilson looks compared to the other veteran quarterbacks beginning today during Phase II of Seattle’s offseason workout regimen.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times writes the last time a quarterback made a start as a rookie for Seattle was Rick Mirer in 1993. Mirer finished 6-10 that year.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated offers his thoughts on Russell Wilson joining the competition for the starting quarterback job in Seattle.

Doug Farrar of Yahoo Sports writes that Seattle draft picks like Bruce Irvin and Russell Wilson, considered reaches by some in the national media, could make an immediate impact this season.

Pat Kirwan of CBS Sports posts an interesting list of every team’s sack production on third down. The Seahawks are near the bottom of the list.

Matt Maiocco of reports that former Washington State University head coach Paul Wulff has joined the 49ers coaching staff as an senior offensive assistant.

A 55-year-old grandmother tried out but did not make the cut as a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.

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  1. bbnate420 says:

    Turbin will turn out to be a GREAT pick IMO. He has all the tools, he just needs to stay healthy and get a chance.

  2. Kam Chancellor, 2010 fifth round pick, Pro Bowler.
    Richard Sherman, 2011 fifth round pick, Pro Bowler in the making.
    Korey Toomer, 2012 fifth round pick, future Pro Bowler?

    If Schneider keeps hitting on his late-round picks, we might have a dynasty in the making. When was the last time we were this excited about the first six draft picks (Irvin, Wagner, Wilson, Turbin, Howard, Toomer)? I’ll bet at least three out of the six will be impact players.

  3. Soggybuc says:

    My man crush on Turbin began when I watched the RB’s at the combine. his size impressed me and when he put a good 40 time I kept watching during some other drills.
    the more I watched him the more I was impressed. it was only then I looked up some highlight tape and a love affair was born.
    Another local kid from Kamiak high and EWU was at the tryout as a FB. hope he makes the 90.
    Funny how people always talk about So Cal, Texas and Fla. as hot beds of talent but if you look at the league for the last few decades there has been an amazing amount of NW talent. when you think of Olin Kruetz you forget that he’s a South Kitsap kid.(if my memory is wrong on that sorry, to lazy to try and google it)

  4. JMSeaTown says:

    Middleton is 6’5″ 256, not bad for depth.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Yup, Turbin’s been getting a lot of attention on this blog for months now. I’m really excited they drafted him. He and Lynch are going to make such dynamic, powerful combo.

  6. Don’t forget JR Sweezy. The coaches, especially Cable, feel like they hit a grand slam with this one. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he’s our starting left guard next year.

  7. Soggybuc says:

    Yea will be fun to see Sweezy develope. It seems like they snagged him sherrly because he has the nasty factor. think the above mentioned Kreutz or Dobler. nasty nasty men who earned the Ire of those they lined up against and will go down in history as great O lineman.

  8. Soggybuc says:

    LOL, and I dare you to call him Sherrly!

  9. HawkfaninMT says:

    With regards to Toomer…

    If he is as much of a dynamo at Sam as is being touted, I wonder if the starting 3 could be:

    Sam: Toomer
    Mike: Wright
    Will: Wagner

    Maybe Ruud and Hill kept as back ups to mentor and push the young new trio?

  10. montanamike2 says:

    This is so much different than our previous Fo, look at all the talent they pull out of the draft. In the past we had 2-3 players stick and some practice fodder each draft. I’m not used to this at all, but i could definitely get used to it.

  11. tchristensen says:

    No kidding montatamike2. I still can;t believe the Holgren/Ruskell draft machine drafted a kicker and a long snapper in the same draft! Like they didn’t any any other holes to fill?
    The new FO is incredible.

  12. chuck_easton says:

    But that kicker (Coutu) just got signed by the Jags to be camp fodder until the team’s franchised kicker signs his tender.

    So, even though he’s never made a kick in any meaningful NFL game ever, surely that shows what great talent evaluators we had here prevously.

    (Oh, and for those that might not have guessed Sarcasm setting is now deactivated.)

  13. Hill is going to start.

  14. chuck_easton says:

    Why yes, TruBlu, Hill is going to start. Until he doesn’t. Just like TJack is going to start at QB, until he doesn’t.

    Do I see anybody ahead of Hill on the depth chart today? Nope. But my crystal ball is in the shop so we have to wait until opening day to see which 22 guys take the field for our starting O and D.

    Oh, and a of today TruBlu, I do agree with you. Wright, Wagner, Hill are the starters until shown otherwise. I’m just in a mood today with all the ‘Player X is better than Player Y’ talk before we even get the whole team on the field at the same time.

  15. Dukeshire says:

    I was going to say Chuck, that’s a pretty edgy post, for you. lol. Calm down…

  16. Imagine how well Wilson will be able to sell the play-action in the NFL after Marshawn’s already broken off a few tough runs. Linebackers will have a hard time seeing him as he ducks down to fake the hand-off, meaning his height is an advantage in that situation. What I love about this coaching staff is their ability to maximize talent and game plan to their strengths. Russell Wilson gives them a ton to work with in that regard.

    Yesterday I put the odds like this:

    Flynn 65%
    Wilson 20%
    Jackson 15%

    But today, the more I think about it lol, I’d have it like this:

    Flynn 58%
    Wilson 41%
    Jackson 1%


  17. chuck_easton says:

    Yeah, it was edgy. And entirely not an attack on TruBlu.

    It’s more my feeling about all the debate right now.

    I have my personal favorites at each position that I’m rooting for. QB included. But I am just looking forward to seeing what the younguns can do when they go up against the older and wiser vets.

    As I learned long ago, Old age and tretchery wins out over youth and enthusiasm almost every time.

  18. surelyyoujest says:

    Frankly, I’m not invested at all in who wins the QB competition. I’m assuming whoever emerges has had a great camp and has shone brightly through the pre-season. I think we’ll be in great shape during the season as well if the starter goes down. I couldn’t be happier about the QB situation. If I was handicapping it though, TJ would have pretty long odds.

    I think the LB situation is going to be package dependant. If Leroy starts, I think you could see him come off the field on 2nd and or 3rd down. I think Pete will have enough variety in packages that you’ll see 5 or 6 different LB’s on the field during the course of the game…..depending on how Toomer, Wagner, and/or Smith pan out this summer. They’ll also be staples to on special teams.

  19. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Surelyyoujest, in the back of mind I had the same questions regarding our LB situation. Hill is a beast against the run. I haven’t heard too much about him in zone coverages though. I guess K.J. Wright is good on both passing and running downs. Wagner, however, despite all his speed, I question how he’ll fare against Gore and Wells. Not to mention, Carolina’s running backs. After all, he is undersized like Lofa is/was. I just don’t think we’ll get more than 2-3 seasons out of him because of all the abuse his relatively undersized body will be subjected too. That’s why I kind of wanted Dont’a Hightower. Hightower might not be as fast as Wagner, but I guarantee he’ll be in the league longer.

  20. PixelDummy says:

    Whats brilliant about the Turbin pick is that it will keep Lynch motivated (after getting his big contract i think its human nature to become a bit comfortable)…he will not want to be outshined by this youngster with such a similar skillset.

  21. wabubba67 says:

    Even if you’re right DisplacedSeahawkFan, the way this front office values LBs (no long term money) combined with their proven ability to find talent in the mid rounds, I am comfortable with 2-3 seasons of Wagner/Wright/Toomer/Smith. Pete wants speed…and speed doesn’t typically hold up over the long term.

  22. Dukeshire says:

    I wouldn’t call Wagner undersized. He’s basically Hawthorne’s size with more leverage (longer arms) as well as being gifted athletically. I know Lofa was listed a 6’0″ but he had a far compact frame than Wagner, and got so thick for that frame, he lost much of his flexibility and began suffering as many muscle pulls (hamstring primarily) as any other injury, as a result. I really don’t see Wagner as a Lofa clone, in this regard, at all.

  23. chrisj122 says:

    The only QB competition is at the backup position. The F.O. didn’t go get Flynn to sit on the bench. This is Flynn’s job to lose and he will have to totally suck to lose it. They drafted Wilson to be the backup until he can prove he’s more than that, which won’t happen this year and probably not next year either. Maybe in his 3rd year he can make a push for the starting QB job but not now. No way, now how.

    Flynn is going to be the starter this season, the only question is who will be the backup QB and if T-jack is on the roster come opening day.

  24. chuck_easton says:


    What in Flynn’s contract screams out automatic starter? His contract is more of a “prove it” deal. It’s only guaranteed for 10 million.

    TJack (and Whitehurst as well)got 8 million for 2 years.

    TJack is going into camp as the starter. So it isn’t Flynn’s job to lose, it’s Flynn’s job to take the starting job from TJack and to hold off the push from Wilson.

  25. chrisj122 says:

    They brought Flynn in to be the starter. The F.O. didn’t see T-Jack taking this team to the next level, so they went and signed Flynn. I really don’t think they signed Flynn to sit behind T-Jack, they brought him to be the starter.

    I know everyone right now is high Wilson, which is great but don’t get it twisted and think he’s going to start in his first season in the NFL. Not to many QB’s enter the NFL in their first season and start let alone start and be successfull. The F.O. drafted wilson to ensure we have good backup QB for the next few years and if he can turn into more than that, great but it will take time if at all.

  26. Dukeshire says:

    Jackson was only guaranteed $2 million.

  27. chuck_easton says:

    My money is on Flynn eventually winning the job, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying he’s the starter already. In fact, last time the vets got together TJack got the starters reps.

    Flynn has to win the job. It won’t be handed to him.

    I think he can do it, but don’t for one minute think that the job is already his to lose.

  28. SandpointHawk says:

    Chuck…you’re very talkative today, which is not a bad thing… But I need to ask is this the Partner workload kicking in?

  29. Soggybuc says:

    Part of the logic in using a smaller faster LB is that our line is huge and capable of stuffing the run and at worst preventing the tailback from getting a head of steam. in that aspect you dont need a big Mike. Wagner is more than capable of tackling a Gore who’s at half speed.

  30. chuck_easton says:

    Problem with being a Partner is it’s 24/7 so I take breaks when I can.

  31. I think there will be two very exciting QB competitions to watch. The first is this summer as Flynn battles TJack for the opening day starter job. That should be settled by late August. In 2013, the battle should be between Flynn and Wilson for who becomes the real future QB of this team. To me, I like all these guys a lot – all high character, hard working players. Its going to be a very fun couple of years to watch this play out.

  32. Dukeshire says:

    Seattle’s not using “smaller, faster LB”. They *are* using faster ‘backers, but there’s nothing small about any of them. This is becoming an odd narrative (on this and several other threads, on this blog).

  33. Chuck, you actually want to watch the players “play” before you speculate on who is better? lol! Where’s the fun in that?

  34. SandpointHawk says:

    Sometimes you wonder where everyone has been for the last 8 years….

  35. SandpointHawk says:

    That post was in answer to Dukes comment….

  36. Dukeshire says:

    Sand – It’s been interesting to see the popularity of this blog over the years ebb and recede with the success and struggles of the franchise. Clearly they’re on an up-swing, if you use the amount of “new” posters as a measure.

  37. chrisj122 says:

    I think the F.O. signed Flynn to be the starter, they can say there is open competition but they see him as the starter. I also think the F.O. drafted Wilson to be the backup because T-Jack is in the last season of his contract and will not be here past that, if even that long.

    Like I already said maybe Wilson can push for starting job in his 3rd year but I don’t see it any sooner than that. I still think Wilson is to short to be a successfull starting QB in the NFL. Yes, I know he has big hands and his O.L. in college were on avg. 6′.6″ but I still just don’t see it. Yes, I know the Drew Breeze comparison but Breeze is really probably 2″ taller than Wilson not 1″.
    Regardless I think he will be a every good back up QB and that was the reason for drafting him, to ensure we have a quality back up QB.

  38. “Seahawks Insider”
    “Where there is no offseason for random speculation”

  39. Palerydr says:

    That was pretty damn funny Stevos.

    Near as I can figure I’ve been posting for about 4 years now anybody else?

  40. Dukeshire says:

    This will be 9th or 10th season here, for me. Before that I spent some time at the Seattle Time’s blog until I couldn’t talk Danny O’Neil and all the trolls that were on there. Finding Sando was amazing.

  41. Palerydr says:

    I’ve read the Times blog a few times as well as Sando’s NFC West blog man there are a ton of angry people out there.

  42. SandpointHawk says:

    Chrisj122…look into some dude named Fran Tarkenton….

  43. chuck_easton says:

    I’m from the Sando days as well. Eric is blog host # 3 for me.

    And chris. Brees is 6′ exactly (as listed by his team). Wilson is 5′ 10 3/4″ so he’s actually 1 1/4 inches shorter than Brees. Just to be concise.

  44. SandpointHawk says:

    I met Sando when he was in Spokane and have been following (lurking some might say) around ever since…

  45. SandpointHawk says:

    Really need an edit function…*following him around*

  46. Dukeshire says:

    Chuck – What? You can’t bring yourself to mention Frank Hughes? lol.

  47. raymaines says:

    I’m invested in the starting QB in a negative sort of way.

    T-Jack is pretty much max’ed out and isn’t going to get any better, if Flynn can’t beat him out it means another year of very average QB play. I don’t know if Flynn is any better, but I really hope he isn’t worse.

    It’s going to be super interesting to see how this melodrama plays itself out three of four months.

  48. chuck_easton says:

    Duke, go to your room! You know you can’t use language like that on here.

  49. bird_spit says:

    found the blog in 2006…one dude I miss after Sando quit doing all of the spreadsheets, is that commenter that did all of the data analysis..what happened to you? I miss all of the raw numbers..

  50. Soggybuc says:

    LOL, too true Duke. the NFL is the only place a 6’2″ 240# guy who can bench press 300#’s is called small.
    I think I started on the blog around the time that “F” guy took over. but i did lurk for about a year before jumping in.
    Honestly i don’t think Frank was a bad guy, he just didn’t have the passion for football that Sando and E have. he was a Sonics guy that got shoved here as a way of not firing him after Schultz the traitor stabbed Seattle in the back!

  51. Soggybuc says:

    Bird I think you are refering to Kim008. I really dug his number crunching too even if I did poke some fun at him for it. he was the kind of guy that should have worked for leagues stats dept.

  52. GeorgiaHawk says:

    bird_spit- Are you talking about klm008?

  53. SandpointHawk says:

    Klm008 still comes around, he just doesn’t post on the blogs. How do I know he comes around? He shows up at the live chats and game chats, even the random ones. Come on back KlmM008 we still want your input….

  54. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire chased him out!

    Just kidding Dukeshire. I use to like seeing you and klm008 go back and forth. His numbers and stats were his way of expressing his thoughts.

    He’s been on some of the live chats of late I think, so he may still be reading this blog.

    So come back stat man! Were all tired of doing the leg work around here! It’s your job klm008!

  55. I started posting here in 2004/2005, under a different screen name. I also used to haunt the Seahawkaddicts blog incessantly, and I really miss discussing (arguing!) with a bunch of the commenters there. Duke and BobbyK and a few others were there too during the Ruskell Dark Ages, but gave up when the blog began its decline into utter irrelevancy.

    So yeah, I been annoying the crap out of non-linear thinkers and blind optimists and trolls for 8 years…scary.

    I used to stand up for Mr. F until he began deleting all comments that were critical of him…he even deleted several of mine that stood up for him just because I dared state he wasnt Blog Leader of the year. That did it, and I bailed.

    Eric is so awesome I dont even miss Sando. Sando is no fun any more now that he’s disowned the Hawks. He tries too hard to fit in with the East Coast Douche’s..he never will. He’ll always be the outsider. Only now he’s lost his cred, at least with me. I get that hes trying to be nuetral, but hes taken it too far and is just boring now. And he now has an apparent ego.

    So thank God for the Trib and Eric. Nice job, folks. Much appreciated.
    Chuck–Old age and treachery usually do win out, but with Carrol, its a youth movement do or die.

  56. TomlPDX says:

    Yep, I’m a newbie here, only been lurking for a few years and finally decided to say something. Been a hawk fan since day 1 though.

  57. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Welcome aboard TomIPDX!

  58. TomlPDX says:

    Thanks GeorgiaHawk. This is a good group and glad I finally decided to join in. Didn’t have much to say (that I would want printed) about the previous regime but I was a Holmgren fan. These guys are fun to watch because you never know what’s next…keeps it interesting.

  59. I also liked reading klmoo8! I like numbers too!

  60. I am new to the blog. I don’t like the Seahawks, but I like following other teams.

  61. Paleryder–Oh yes, the Sando Blog has a TON of utter Trolls–most of them Whiner Fans. I dont like all the personal attacks and mindless sniping that goes on there, so I never comment. Those guys all seem to think thier weiner size increases/decreases relative to how the team they root for performs…as if they have anything to do with the outcome. Pathetic!

    At least here the sniping is usually fact-based at its core, and usually isnt personal. And people actually stick up for each other once in awhile, unlike on other blogs.

    And I like that folks here are pretty tolerant, for the most part. Ive crossed the line into Trollville more than once, and since Im big enough to admit it when I screw up, they havent booted me yet! Thats always a good thing…

  62. HawkfaninMT says:

    Been here since the end of the Sando era…

    I think the craptastic way ESPN changed their boards brought a few posters here as well. I remember the TNT Blog being linked to pretty frequently there.

  63. NWPoseidon says:

    Ive been lurking for a few years too and occasionally check out Danny’s blog over on the times but most of those posters drive me crazy. This is my first year posting anything too but I love the banter. Go hawks!

  64. Been around for about 4 years – give or take.

    Read alot – post sometimes more than others!

    Try to make game chats when I am not at the games

  65. montanamike2 says:

    I was a die hard Sonics fan since’94. I always read the tnt sports (and movies at one time). In 2003 i died from an injection from the VA and was flown to SLC on a helicopter from Helena, during a procedure to bring me back i had a double stroke from the embolisms. I returned home from the hospital but was unable to communicate without a cerebelum. I started reading from all you guys but didn’t log in for the last 15 years or so, my situation was to weird to explain. I don’t want to spook you guys, i read all the way back when Bobby K, STTBM, Duke even Chuck and many many trolls were posting.I know you guys really good but you don’t know me, Sorry to lay all that on you. I,m going to Helena next month and i can verify this with MontanaHawk.
    I’m pretty Bad Ass though and am a mystery to science i’ve recovered to astonish and baffle all the doctors.

  66. Dukeshire says:

    Georgia – Man, I hope that’s not true. I did give him a hard time for not putting all his stats into context. But like you said, that’s how he expressed himself. And he (or someone) has commented under his name during some live chats, so hopefully he’s around and will begin posting again.

    He disappeared as quickly as he arrived…

    One guy who is interesting to me is Elkhorn. He rarely, if ever, comments on the blog, but is one of th most active live-game-chat guys around.

    Then there’s Oldslow. He was established when I first started posting, but only occasionally posts now. The oldest old-timer here, I can think of.

  67. Dukeshire says:

    “… unable to communicate without a cerebellum.” LOL! Well, that hasn’t stopped a lot of people here.

  68. montanamike2 says:

    Thanks Duke i don’t want to scare people off.

  69. montanamike2 says:

    I’d prefer to be thought of as a grateful ex soldier who was helped greatly by reading the posts of others on my teams football blog then to be thought of as some weird stalker dude.

  70. montanamike2 says:

    Ok this is awkward, too much personel info. I’m outa here i didn’t mean to kill the post.

  71. TomlPDX says:

    I haven’t made a live game blog yet…too busy pulling my hair out and throwing my computer through windows these past few years as I watch the games…have to try it out this year. I imagine the live blog can get pretty lively at times

  72. OregonHawk says:

    I have been reading since Sando, I too remember Seahawk addicts

    Don’t often comment, but love love my Seahawks since inception! Favorite Hawks are Zorn, Herrera, Kreig, Largent, Green, Tez, Porter & anyone wearing a Hawk uniform

    Sad to say, but before the Hawks I followed the Steelers. Loved to watch Stalworth and Swann… But since the superbowl, I root for any team playing against the Steelers, Raiders, and Cowboys

  73. dvaldez says:

    Really Dukeshire, I have been reading this blog at least 5 years- I don’t have to comment daily like yourself to call myself a fan. Just because people don’t post alot has more to do with the regulars attitude with anyone new that happens to post. Listen I respect opinions that you, Bobby K and STTBM among others post- but really you need to not take yourself so serious.

  74. Pete should sign Donovan McNabb and Vince Young, so we can have a five-way QB competition. I’m not being serious, of course, but I can’t believe no team has signed these guys. They’d make good backups, if not starters.

    If McNabb had retired a few years ago, he would be remembered as a very good QB and borderline HOFer. Instead, he’s even alienated many Eagles fans.

  75. Strategicdust says:

    I’ve been a long time reader but just started posting about a month ago. This is simply the best Seahawks blog out there which is a testament to not only Eric but the regulars (Duke and BobbyK to just name two) whose opinions and humor have kept me reading and now, posting.

  76. slicktoxic says:

    Vince Young has signed a one-year $2million deal with the Bills

  77. raymaines says:

    Canfan: I kind of agree. What does it matter if you have two, three or five guys competing for a starting spot if they all suck? I posted on another thread that I don’t exactly care who wins the starting QB spot, but if it’s TJ the ‘Hawks are doomed. If one of the other guys isn’t better, the season is basically over.

  78. raymaines says:

    Totally Off Subject:

    I’m 66 years old, short, fat, broke down, beat up, and generally worthless, but I’ve got this jersey……

    Way back in the ’60s I rode motocross and earned an official number plate number, and I wore a jersey with that number on it. Now my 37 year old son sometimes wears that jersey when he does yard work or washes his own motorcycle. He’s proud of me and I’m crazy happy that he is.

    And my point is….

    Even the last guy that gets a Seahawks jersey with his name on the back will have a story to tell for the rest of his life. How dog gone cool is that!!

  79. Dukeshire says:

    Right on…

    dvaldez – What did I do?

  80. raymaines, that’s cool. In this day and age it’s dangerous to get a jersey with a player’s name on it. Best served to go custom with your own name & number. By the way do you or your son know who Travis Pastrana is? I only ask because I know he rode motorcross and may have got booted but yesterday I was shown a video of him jumping out of a plane without a parachute. There are daredevils and then there is this guy.

    montanamike2, you’re not scaring anyone. Try spending more than 15 minutes up here in the Fairbanks Walmart. That’s scary!

    I was here in the Sando days also, code name: ALASKAN. When unbiased officiating left the NFL, Hutchinson left and Sando left the blog I had to re-evalute how important it was for me to stay pissed off all the time. After cooling off for several years and only monitoring the blog I tried to re-enter but couldn’t figure out my password. Thus: “Galena”, not a Seagal like GeorgiaHawk was hoping for but named after an Alaskan village on the Yukon River.

    Eric’s done a great job here with the blog and the posters are fun. Aside from occasional flirtings with “trollville” as STTBM calls it there is only one true troll that regularly posts here and it’s obvious who that is….


  81. Oldslow began as Old But Slow on the Seattle PI boards in the 2000-2001 range. I don’t think I’d refer to him as much of a regular over here based on the amount he would post at the PI. I think once the PI broke up, he started checking this place out occasionally but has never really called it home.

    When Seahawks Addicts started it was pretty cool. Michael Steffes blogged a lot, and it was something new (Brian McIntyre was running but it was a paid site and only the Seattle PI and TNT offered a real way to communicate with other fans for free but with lots of rules). Field Gulls came out around the same time but it had a totally different feel back then with John Morgan writing almost exclusively x’s and o’s). Mike Sando had this blog rolling, as readers we all knew it wouldn’t last. He was too good and destined for more. Along with Boling, the Tribune was definitely the Gold Standard at the time. I’d say it still is.

    One of my favorite posters to read was from back in the early Sando (blogging) era. He called himself BD, short for Big Daddy. That guy was hilarious. Also a guy named Pabst and another called Seehawkswin, or “swin” for short. Duke I remember coming around in the height of the Sando era, right around 2006 or so. BobbyK came after that. I remember a long debate around Kris Dielman. Anyway, there is a lot of useless crap crawling around my brain.

  82. Soggybuc says:

    Galena is also a mineral. good for Lisowski. one of you Montana boy’s had that called for sure. GJ.

  83. Macabrevity says:

    I used to be a reg on the about forum, I thought the forum host did a decent job, not the same level as Eric with an abundance of articles but good, plus it was generic NFL – but there was a really good Seahawks following there for a while, some really knowledgeable posters who would’ve given the cream of the crop here a run for their money – then they all just disappeared. No idea what happened. It’s been dead there (at least for Hawks posts) for two seasons now, and no signs of life visible.

    As for interest in the Hawks picking up, mine hasn’t waned since I started watching in ’84, but I know Seattle fans, pretty much as band-wagony as you can get. A good buddy went to a Hawks game the year after Favre got his ring, and the ‘Dome was packed with GB green and gold!!! My buddy had a Bears jersey on, just as random weekend clothing, and another fan told him “you better watch what you wear around here”… To make it more ridiculous, we weren’t even playing GB!

  84. JRocket says:

    Read the blog a lot, don’t post much. Been here since the Sando days. I still check in on him at ESPN, the stream of trolls on the comments there make it great to come back here.

    T Jack is going to play his heart out for the starting job, but he can’t suddenly learn vision or pocket awareness. Flynn will be Matt from GB part 2, which is fine by me with better surrounding talent. RW will be pushing them both, so I see some great comPetition and better QB play this year.

  85. It stinks like sex in here.

    I wandered over here when 12 Seahawk Street defected to SeahawkBlue and trolling those d-bags became more work than it was worth, and when the Times got real bad. That is where Nighthawk comes from IIRC, man that guy is a great troll.

  86. Thanks for the link to the Real Rob Report, SandpointHawk. Very enjoyable. I love hearing the locker room talk.

  87. Macabrevity says:

    I actually get a kick out of the NH posts just they’re so over the top as to be not taken seriously at all. It’s worse when a serious poster strikes a low blow against someone, although sometimes you do it unintentionally, or not even realizing it. I had to go back and re-read a comment I made about a Chuck post, and it didn’t occur to me when writing it, but after I re-read it I winced and could only imagine what I might call a guy who posted that ;)

  88. Jusjamn says:

    1976 fan, but still haven’t hit 50! Found you guys year before last, but enjoy reading more than posting. Unfortunately the reading is really difficult (small) on the iPhone because I’m told the Tribune programmers can’t figure out what Ems are. “Ems” (em): The “em” is a scalable unit that is used in web document media.
    So just a part timer. Most sites have it figured out so that you turn the iPhone sideways, double tap the text and it’s a readable size (see profootball

  89. NWPoseidon says:


    That’s exactly how it works on my iPhone so I am
    Not sure why it does not work on you’rs. Very readable text

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