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Carroll on Russell Wilson: “He’s in the competition.”

Post by Eric Williams on May 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm with 79 Comments »
May 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll did not mince words when asked about third round quarterback Russell Wilson and his role in this team’s quarterback competition once training camp begins in July.

Carroll said Wilson will be competing for the starting job with incumbent Tarvaris Jackson and Matt Flynn.

“He’s showed us enough,” Carroll said. “He’s in the competition. And that is going to tax us, as you know. It was already going to be taxing with two. But he’s shown us enough that we need to see where he fits in with these guys.”

Carroll said he had an inkling that Wilson was up to the task when Seattle drafted him. And that thought was confirmed after watching Wilson zip the ball all over the field for completion after completion during Seattle’s three-day rookie minicamp.

According to Carroll, Wilson threw over 400 passes and took over 500 snaps this weekend.

“That’s an amazing load that we threw on him, but he handled it like he’s been here,” Carroll said. “And that was a great first sign, just about his willingness to prepare, hold all the information and use it quite well.”

Some tidbits

* Carroll said that defensive end Bruce Irvin is just what Seattle thought when the team drafted him – very fast and instinctive with the ability to make plays all over the field.

“He’s going to be able come in and help us immediately,” Carroll said.

* According to Carroll, veteran offensive tackle Alex Barron showed enough to be considered as a possible addition to Seattle’s 90-man roster.

“He did a nice job,” Carroll said. “He’s more experienced. He’s been around the block and you could tell that. He did enough good things that we could see that he could have a chance.”

* Other players that Carroll said stood out during the rookie minicamp include seventh round draft choice J.R. Sweezy, offensive guard Rishaw Johnson, cornerback Donny Lisowski and.

“The experiment with J.R. it’s obvious we’re on the right track,” Carroll said about Sweezy. “He’s very aggressive, and carried over the defensive mentality that you’d hope he’d have.”

* Carroll said that K.J. Wright will continue to make the calls as the SAM linebacker when Bobby Wagner is in at MIKE to take some of the pressure off of the rookie. Carroll also said that Barrett Ruud and Matt McCoy will get an opportunity to compete for the starting middle linebacker job.

Carroll mentioned McCoy as a guy who did some good things as this team’s middle linebacker in third down nickel situations before he suffered the knee injury last season that ended his year.

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  1. pabuwal says:

    I’m still handicapping this QB Race as –

    40% Jackson
    30% Flynn
    30% Wilson

  2. Wouldn’t surprise me if Jackson wasn’t on the opening day roster, but then again, my man crush on Russel might cloud my judgement, at least we can be somewhat excited for the QB position moving forward, it’s been a while!

  3. Dukeshire says:

    Eric, By Wright “still” making the calls, Inpresume that means he making them in the OTA last week. Was he at Sam or middle, then?

    Pab – I don’t believe those are the same %s you assigned last time. Looks a lot closer now…

  4. pabuwal says:

    Duke – if you do a search, you will find they are identical.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Huh, well, they’re your %s, so perhaps you’re right for a change. ;) For some reason I thought you had Wilson winning the job at one point.

  6. Seahawks2620 says:

    The Wilson news doesn’t surprise me at all.

    1. Carroll LOVES competition as everyone knows.
    2. Pete has shown that he is not afraid to throw a rookie into a key role. (QB is obviously an important position)
    3. Wilson has proven that he is a very quick learner and down right intelligent. As well as being very athletic and possessing a very strong arm.

    I am not so sure that he will win it, not because lack of effort or performance. I just think that Jackson and Flynn offer the years in the league. You never know with Pete though. I am not buying the “height” issue, because as many have alluded to, he played behind one of the tallest offensive lines in all of football in Wisconsin. He also has a very high release point, as well as exceptionally large hands. If he is the starter from day 1 of the season, I will trust that the kid can really play. Besides, it is reassuring knowing that we would potentially have both Flynn and Jackson on the bench.

  7. montanamike2 says:

    This all is great news!!!
    I don’t know who to be most stoked about.
    “Irvin is who we thought he was”. Wilson is way ahead in the learning curve and Wagner is a fast mean MLB, he’ll be learning the position while Kj makes the calls from the strong side.

  8. Dukeshire: I probably didn’t phrase that well, but Wright will make the calls when Wagner is in at Mike during OTAs and training camp moving forward.

  9. BigBlew says:

    OTA and training camp is one level of competition and game speed is another. Take a seat son and learn to be an NFL quarterback.

  10. pabuwal says:

    I think Wilson does eventually win the job at some point in the next 1-2 seasons but these percentages are for opening day.

    And that I have Wilson and Matt Flynn as equal should show that I think Wilson has an excellent shot at winning the battle for opening day starter – much higher than anyone thought when he was drafted.

  11. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    I’d have to assume that come final cuts Josh Portis will be the odd man out. Even if T.Jack loses his starting job, I just don’t believe that Josh Portis will take his roster spot. As far as Russell Wilson goes, I’ll wait till the preseason to pass judgement on him. No matter what, he’s still a rookie so I don’t believe he’ll beat out Flynn or Jackson for a starting job. All I know is that come week 1 we need to have a clear #1 QB: I hate it when teams play roulette with their starting QB’s.

    It sounds like Wagner is going to be our starting middle line backer. Reports indicate that he’s undersized for the position. I wonder how many years we’ll get out of him before he becomes worn out. Anyway, even though it seems that Pete doesn’t want him making calls just yet, at least he’ll have the benefit of a full training camp and preseason to get up to speed.

    Lastly, I didn’t hear anything about Bruce Irvin on day two. Moreover, it seems like he didn’t get to the QB once during camp, because Alex Barron handled him. Can anyone confirm this? I know it’s still to early to tell, but that’s not a good sign. I know that scheme wise Carrol will figure out ways to employ him which will give him every chance to succeed. Still, it bothers me that Barron was able to handle him, and that nothing was said about his day two efforts.

  12. Seahawks2620 says:

    Displaced- From all of the video and photos that I have seen of Bruce Irvin and Barron, Barron held him on almost every down. He did not “hold him down”. Trust me, Barron did not show much this weekend, other than the fact that he can still hold defensive ends that consistently beat him. That was one of his biggest flaws when he came up with the Rams.

  13. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Seahawks2620, I hope you’re right. It just seems that Barron did such a good job against Irvin that now Barron has a serious shot at making the roster: so far it seems that more positive things were said about Barron than Irvin. Secondly, it seems that if Barron was holding Irvin, as you say, that Cable, or some other coach, would have corrected Barron. Lastly, do you know if Irvin had any sacks during this camp?

  14. As long as T-Jack isn’t the opening day starter, that’s all I care about. If it’s Flynn, great. If Wilson gets the nod, that’s fine too. I hope it’s Flynn/Wilson or Wilson/Flynn with T-Jack standing in the unemployment line.

  15. Sarcasticus says:

    I hope Wilson is starting. I would be ok with Flynn (LSU qb…lol) riding the pine. T-Jack would make for a decent back-up as well, but I would prefer only one of T-Jack/Flynn backing up Wilson with Portis as the 3rd stringer. Turbin sounds like the real deal, and I would like to see more of Bobby Wagner.

  16. orbeavhawk says:

    Man am I PUMPED or WHAT! I always get pumped for each NEW SeaHawk Year….BUT not like this!!! P.C. and J.S. or going to make the “so called EXPERTS” eat CROW or worse! These guys and their staff are going to absolutely SHOCK the NFL very SOON. We are going to get some beautiful turning of da tables in near future. EXCITING to see them putting something VERY Special together.


  17. chuck_easton says:


    Read on the sight that Irvin would definitely had at least one sure sack if hitting the guy in the red jersey was allowed.

    Irvin is the real deal as an edge rusher with speed. My over/under for Irvin this season is 8 sacks.

  18. Seahawks2620 says:

    Displaced- As Chuck said, Irvin would have gotten there on more than one occasion, but you obviously don’t want to lay out your own QB. haha He was in the vicinity of the QB quite often as well. Even if he isn’t racking up a ton of sacks yet, just implementing his stamp on the QB’s conscience will do loads for this team.

  19. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK- Good to see you are coming around with regards to Wilson. Now it’s time for Dukeshire to admit that Eric was right about Wilson being a good qb prospect for us moving forward!

    There is still time for you to get on the Wilson Bandwagon Dukeshire. Lol.

  20. I have never been against Wilson. I didn’t want him b/c of having Flynn, but I have never been against him. Once we drafted him, I drank some kool aid. I wasn’t mad we took him. I love the fact that he’s articulate, smart, a good guy, etc. He’s the type of guy you want for the face of your franchise. He’s no Rapistburger and I’m proud of that.

    My only problem was w/some people a few months ago talking about how he would be so much better than Seneca. Well, duh, of course he has a chance to be better than Seneca because his career is basically over and he never was an overly good player. That’s like saying (overexaggerating, of course) some rookie late round pick or free agent has a chance to be better than Audrey Bruce, a former #1 overall pick, b/c one career is over and he sucked and one career still has chapters to write (whether they are good chapters or not).

    Whoever starts our season, whether it’s Flynn or Wilson, I’m going to be 100% in their corner and happy about it!

  21. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Pabs- I see it as-

    40%- Flynn
    40%- Wilson
    20%- Jackson

    Wilson, imo has the it factor! just like Baldwin, Luck, DeCastro, so on.

  22. 50.1% – Flynn
    35.2% – Wilson
    14.7% – Jackson

  23. Dukeshire says:

    But yes, he’s off to a hell of a start by every report.

  24. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK- I know you are not against Wilson! And I know that Dukeshire is not against players that can help this team win.

    I’m just playing around a little, however I do feel that Wilson has the it factor, (for what it’s worth), just like baldwin has it, and Luck, and DeCastro!

    Dam Stealers! Lol.

  25. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- Can’t keep this blog rolling if we agree on everthing. You lucky microbrew man!

  26. Dukeshire says:

    I hope you’re right, because I thing Flynn has that “it” too. May the best man win the job, and lead the ‘Hawks to The championship.

  27. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Everything! OK, three beers and I am out for the day.

  28. Dukeshire says:

    Georgia – Haha, true indeed, and cheers.

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    This is why I can’t win a debate sometimes on this blog! My beer time starts three hours ahead of Dukeshire time! Lol.

  30. Dukeshire says:

    Lol. Sadly, I often start earlier than I care to admit. We may not be so far off, actually.

  31. montanamike2 says:

    I’m super happy to have a tandem of Flynn/Wilson, tell me that’s not wayyy better than Jackson/Whitehurst. I expect Wilson to take a little time. PC is trying to cook up the pressure at qb so Flynn/Jackson don’t get too comfortable.

  32. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Lol. You probably could win most debates with me drunk if we were to debate Xs and Os. However I have beeradvantage on you when it comes down to wags and swags! Lol.

  33. Yes. I feel Flynn has “it” too. And I like it! But, again, I hope Wilson never has to play a meaningful down in a Seahawks uniform, as I want Flynn to take it, stay healthy, and lead this team to a Super Bowl win or two (or be the first team to ever win three in a row!).

  34. Singularitarian says:

    Not to brag, but just a few days ago I posted that Wilson would be too good to be out of the question to start, and Jackson would get cut, and Wilson would start the year as starter. After said statement, everybody tried to make a dick out of me. Carroll’s comments today definitely hinted on Jackson being cut…

  35. Plenty people have suggested that Jackson may get cut (I would have cut him about 9 months ago). But, yeah, good call on Wilson being in the mix.

  36. Wow – if Wilson actually starts at some point this season – either Flynn has faltered, or we’ve gotten huge value out of a 3rd round pick. He’s a more and more intriguing pick – when you watch his highlights, and listen to him in interviews, he does give off that winner/leader confident vibe.

    And to me, whether we take that step forward this year, or not, is all about the Quarterback. If we get above-average QB play, I think we win 10 games.

    I’m still assuming it’s Flynn’s job to lose, for this year at least. We’ll see.

  37. nbk35zw says:

    Now that, Duke, is a beautiful statement. Cheers!

  38. Still believe Flynn is the day 1 starter. The better that Wilson is, the more likely that T-Jack gets cut. That scenario seems more likely by the day. Being that the coaches know what they have in T-Jack, it would make sense (and give a good cover) to get Flynn and Wilson a majority of the reps as time goes on while appearing not to violate the sacred open qb competition.

  39. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    I honestly think it’s more like

    flynn 70%

    wilson 25%

    Jackson 5%

    jackson is done as a stater unless flynn flops and wilson sucks. the coaches have seen enough of jackson to know he is not who they want….. next! Like bobbyk i couldnt be happier, it was painful to watch jackson strugle with basic reads and check downs. i really think flynn starts for 2 years and proves he can lead them to a superbowl or he is gone.

  40. The only edge Flynn has comes in form of his experience in the NFL and it will be interesting to see how PC values that if Wilson dominates the competition. Athletically, Russell Wilson is superior in some very important areas – football IQ (mastery of 2 pro style offenses), foot speed, and throwing arm. If Flynn and Wilson are equally skilled with making reads, accuracy, and general mastery of the offense there’s no way PC goes with Flynn. I get the feeling he really wants Wilson to win this competition. He can barely keep a straight face when discussing him. Love is in the air.

    Step one – make it clear that Wilson is in the running for the job. Check.
    Step two – during OTAs they’ll alternate reps between Flynn/Wilson/TJAX until it’s clear TJAX is the odd man out (2-3 practices?). Then it becomes Flynn v. Wilson until about Week 2 of the preseason. After that time they’ll need a #1 set in place.

    Can’t wait to see how this plays itself out.

  41. montanamike2 says:

    I’m still not sure where Portis is in the mix, Tjak might be a plan c for extra vet insurance or they might cut him to start fresh and give others some reps. I really don’t know yet.

  42. Singularitarian says:

    65% Wilson
    34% Flynn
    0% Jackson 30% to make the team
    1% Portis 70% to make the team
    Just my take

  43. I don’t think Wilson has an edge over Flynn is football IQ. I think this may be a stength of both of them.

    T-Jack won’t go anywhere anytime soon. What if Wilson or Flynn get hurt (assuming it plays out the way many of us expect) he’ll be needed insurance.

    I have read several comments about Flynn having played at LSU and they never produce NFL QBs. Can those people who bash Flynn for the LSU stuff (but are on the Wilson wagon) please tell me who the great Wisconsin QBs are that have paved the way for Wilson to be great (since his college produced to many great QBs)? I like both QBs, so don’t paint me in a corner of having to choose sides, I’d just like a legit explanation of why one is going to be great, even though the college he went to doesn’t produce NFL QBs, and the other won’t pan out because nobody else in the last 20-30 years have been good in the NFL from that school. I don’t get it and would like a logical explanation.

  44. Singularitarian says:

    when Carroll says it’s gonna be “very taxing with 3″ to me that means Jackson is out

  45. Singularitarian says:

    Doesn’t matter what college they went to, the kid can just ball, and he gets it. to me it’s eay to see (not saying I will definitely be right) but when I watch film of the guy, he just has it. Flynn could be great too. WHat a position to be in, making the call between 2 quarterbacks who have real potentioal to be something special and lead s to the superbowl. Been awhile since we could say that about a qb comp

  46. Darrell Bevell, John Stocco, Scott Tolzien, Tyler Donovan — If Bevell weren’t our offensive coordinator, I doubt that most Seahawk fans would know any of those players. They are about the best Wisconsin QBs of all time.

    At least LSU can claim to have had Bert Jones. Heck, even David Woodley “led” a team to a Super Bowl, something no Wisconsin QB has ever done.

    So, really, I’m sick and tired of the idiotic Flynn/LSU and Wilson “comparisons.” May the best man win regardless of where they went to school. And, technically, if you look at the history of how QBs from their respective schools have fared in the NFL, then Flynn is like a former Miami Hurrican QB in comparison to what Wisconsin has produced.

  47. My God, that’s exactly the point I’m trying to make! I could care less where they have gone to school, too. It doesn’t matter. I like Flynn and Wilson.

  48. tchristensen says:

    And when Flynn dominates the mini-camp in June, you’ll all jump on the Flynn bandwagon.

  49. NWPoseidon says:

    I cannot wait to never see t jack throw it away on fourth down again! I seriously have never been more excited about the QB position. I think it’s

    Flynn 85%
    Wilson 14%
    Jackson 1%

    For this year but next year I see 50% Flynn 50% Wilson

  50. montanamike2 says:

    I think our whole team is built that way. If PC and JS like someones “unique” qualities then it doesn’t matter what school they came from or where they were projected in the draft. If they fit then plug them in. I’m pretty sure Flynn wins this year but Wilson will shine later, if i’m wrong then i’m pleasantly surprised.

  51. pabuwal says:

    Jackson has no shot at the starting job yet he is currently the number 1 QB? Doesn’t anyone listen to Carroll? He has told the truth the entire offseason.

  52. HawksKD says:

    Every single one of you fools calling for Jackson to be cut at this point in the process needs to take a sip of your little decaf coffee and settle down…

    There have been so many absurd posts in this thread that I feel the need to actually post this from my honeymoon in costa rica.

    “Pete carrol is suggesting that Jackson gets cut with his comments”
    “Pete carrol is suggesting that russel Wilson will easily win the starting role”

    Obviously some exaggeration but my god.. Take these interview quotes for what they are instead of making your own assumption as fact. He has said NOTHING about Jackson ALL OF THE SUDDEN being thrown at the bottom of the pile. He has said NOTHING other than RW was impressive at f*cking ROOKIE CAMP… ROOKIE CAMP… the camp that is filled with a bunch of castaways and UDFA…

    Don’t get me wrong I’m excited about RW coming in and man handling an NFL load but I’m not soiling myself with expectations…

    You all are going to be very surprised (I imagine cliff jumping) when you find out how much T Jack is pushing for the starting job…

    I am no T Jack apologist but realize experience trumps talent in many areas of the NFL.

  53. montanamike2 says:

    Jackson is one of the main reasons that our players are injured a lot of time when he leads recievers the wrong way, also we have a lot of targets that he doesn’t seem to get the ball to. TJ has heart and arm strength but accurate he is not. Flynn has much more of a touch and Wilson has it all.

  54. montanamike2 says:

    Also did you guys know that Turbin has signed! That 10/10 wow.

  55. HawksKD says:

    Sooooo who exactly did TJ injure?…

    This should be fun….

    I really hope your not talking about fragile Sidney rice or Mike Williams ..

  56. NWPoseidon says:

    Have you guys seen the Doug Farrar observations on Wilson from the vmac this weekend? Field gulls touches on it. The most impressive thing is that everyone is now raving about Wilson even those that were pretty critical

  57. NWPoseidon says:

    Have you guys seen the Doug Farrar observations on Wilson from the vmac this weekend? Field gulls touches on it. The most impressive thing is that everyone is now raving about Wilson even those that were pretty critical Pre-draft.

    Another thing to keep in mind for those that argue that this is rookie camp and below average defenders is that he is also playing with below average receivers and blockers too. I can only imagine his accuracy with rice or Baldwin. Just something to keep in mind.

    Either way this will be an exciting offseason for QB competition

  58. bbnate420 says:




    And let’s remember guys that this is ROOKIE camp and that the coaches aren’t going to say anything bad about any of these guys. I have liked how the guys have looked in the limited video I have seen but, let’s not start sucking each other off quite yet folks!

  59. montanamike2 says:

    This was a way better move then drafting Tannehill at #12.

  60. montanamike2 says:

    Even if he was still there i mean.

  61. slicktoxic says:

    I don’t know about percentages, but this is what I think their records will be IF they are the starter…

    T-Jack 7-9
    Wilson 10-6
    Flynn 11-5

    we are going to run the ball a LOT, and we are going to force a lot of turnovers…..INT’s specifically.

    And I do think that Wilson will eventually win the starting job…maybe as soon as 2013…..and we’ll be winning 11+ games for the foreseeable future.

  62. Dukeshire says:

    Below average defenders? There are two and possibly three rookies that will have significant roles for this defense, this year. I would caution against being too critical there. That said, is was shirts and shells, not as though anyone was facing live bullets out there. That helps an offense look good.

    Can’t wait for next week’s OTA.

  63. yellaman says:

    While I know PC is saying competition is his belief but come on man not at the QB position. Its to important to be saying competition. I do want the right guy starting at QB but not if we’re talking a rookie starting. Russell should be seeing limited reps when OTA’s and training camp start. Flynn and TJack should be getting the lions share and not a rookie, with potential, QB. I want to see Flynn get every opportunity to be the guy because we all saw what TJack is going to be after last years performance so PC let’s be realistic at the QB position. and let Flynn win or lose the position

  64. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    yellaman, I couldn’t disagree with you more. I’m not a T.Jack fan, but come on: I don’t think that last season was a good measure of what T.Jack can do. I mean, because of the lockout, there was barely a training camp. Then there were the issues at O-line through the first half of the season. When the O-line finally played together enough to get some cohesion T.Jack got hurt. Moreover, Sidney Rice and Mike Williams (his #1 and #2 receivers) were hurt near the end of the season. I’m not saying that T.Jack should automatically get the nod as our starting quarterback, I’m just saying that last year wasn’t a definitive barometer of what T.Jack can do. Flynn and T.Jack should have it out during training camp, and preseason, then, the best QB should get the job. The same goes for Russel Wilson.

  65. Macabrevity says:

    Just my two cents… I don’t think Wilson could start this season without a couple of other things happening first; Flynn sucking or getting hurt, and T-Jax getting traded, cut or hurt. I honestly don’t think him doing everything right in camp will ‘earn’ him a starting job this season. Ultimately I believe it’s Flynn’s job to lose, and backing up Flynn will be the proven T-Jax if he’s still on the team. We have the luxury of taking our time with Wilson.

  66. I’ll put my numbers at:

    65% Flynn
    20% Wilson
    15% Jackson

    I also put Jackson’s odds of getting cut at 85%. I don’t see a scenario where he isn’t named the starter and is still on the roster.

  67. bbnate420 says:

    This is and SHOULD be Flynn’s job to lose. I like TJack a lot more than a lot of people on here but, I think he is only going to give us around an 85-88 passer rating at best. He as at 79 last year with a partially torn pec and unfamiliarity with the majority of his receivers. That said, his lack of pocket presence and situational awareness are going to limit him IMO. I am hoping that Flynn can do better than that, at least eventually. I think it’s probably not realistic to EXPECT more than a 90 passer rating from Flynn in his first year. But hopefully he can become a 6-12 rated QB in this league with time. I like RW but, unless he somehow takes the starting job this year, he may hurt this club for a year while he acclimates to starting in the NFL while the rest of the roster is ready to really compete. I have more faith in Flynn playing well this year than RW.

  68. bbnate420 says:

    Also, TJack getting cut or not if he loses the starting job will be solely based on whether or not the Hawks want to risk putting Portis on the practice squad IMO. His 4 mil salary doesn’t hurt us this year and he provides a veteran presence as a backup. If Wilson wins the 2nd or 1st string job then it will depend how good/much improved Portis looks this offseason. They may not want to risk losing him!

  69. Wow, nice to see everyone fired up about the qb situation. I think its great we have three guys in the hunt for starting qb. Before FA began, we had Clipboard Jesus on his way out, with the door hitting him in the butt, T-Jack, and Portis. Not exactly NFL-Caliber.

    Now we have Flynn and Jackson trying to fend off Wilson. I cant imagine anything working out better, unless Manning would have signed. And I detest Manning, though I have to admit I was excited at the thought of him playing here. So its nice to have three qb’s competing, especially since they all seem to be good guys, leaders, and worthy of respect as players and humans.

    Anything can happen. Portis sounds like he’s gone, but who knows? Jackson could shock us all and win the starting job, or he could end up cut. I personally think Flynn will get the nod, with Wilson as backup and Portis staying. But it all depends on what Jackson does in training camp and preseason.

    Sad thing about Jackson is he played better with a torn pec than he did late in the season when he got healthy. Thats what really disappointed me. He also seems to play better when we throw the ball regularly, rather than running a lot from the start; and that isnt the kind of football Carrol and Cable intend to run. Perhaps Jackson is like Hass and needs a steady rhythm.

  70. Hammajamma says:

    I think PC’s comments were more about acknowledging RW’s great camp than picturing him as the starter. Even if he lights it up in preseason, I have a hard time seeing him under center from the start. I also don’t see a reason he pushes TJ off the roster like some are hoping. Great depth at your most important position is not a minus. Flynn starts. Get’s pushed from the bench. Has a very good debut campaign.

  71. Palerydr says:

    IF Wilson wins the starting job, which I seriously doubt he will, then I don’t expect us to make the playoffs as rookie QB’s starting from day 1 in the NFL have a poor track record of accomplishing that feat.

    It’s much more likely that Flynn beats out Jackson for the starters job. For me it’s nothing but speculation for anyone to really definitively say who the starter and back ups will be until EVERYONE i.e. the veterans and rookies have all practiced together for more than a couple of days.

  72. bbnate420 says:

    Very true Paleryd but, we have to have SOMETHING to discuss right now so it takes the cake.

  73. Most rookie QBs don’t get the keys to a team as talented as Wilson would either. Even though Luck is a better prospect, Wilson will be in much better position to win a bunch more games in 2012. It doesn’t mean Wilson is better than Luck, it means his team is better.

  74. Palerydr says:

    bbnate Lol yea I spose we do

    Yes Bobby I agree we have a better team and I could do the research but just too lazy this morning.

  75. MikePDX says:

    Wow, some of you have a lot more faith in Tjack’s abilities than I do. I said after the draft that Wilson has a good shot to be the backup to Flynn if he can pick the system up fast enough. Many people here said there was zero % chance of that. He has picked up the system obviously a lot faster than anyone imagined. I hope we have Flynn as the starter to see what he has, Wilson as the backup, Portis third, and Tjack released. We know what Tjack’s ceiling is and it is not high enough IMO. Great person no doubt though.

    Re: comparison to luck etc. Wilson exceeded Luck and RGIII in some areas. If you didn’t know what height he was, he’d be ranked similarly to Luck and RGIII. In a west coast system where accuracy is paramount, he shines. The leadership etc. that is missing from Tjack’s game is there in Wilson IMO. Here are the stats again:



  76. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- I agree with your post. Especially the last part about Jackson playing better after he got injured and perhaps needing to get into a steady rhythm like Hass did. I think that’s why the FO went with the hurry up some.

    I’m not counting Jackson out. I just don’t think he has the best chance.

    But what do I know! I never would have predicted Irvin as our first pick! Lol.

    Can’t wait to see how this all plays out before the games that count begins!

  77. HeinieHunter says:

    Wilson may have a real shot as Pete wants to be a running team, with the QB making smart accurate reads and throws. The system will present passing opportunities and we just need a QB that can make the proper pass and keep the chains moving and the defense honest. Our defense and running game should do the rest.
    I think turnovers will be the major factor in who ends up starting. Fumbles and picks will put them on the bench.

  78. ruminator1 says:

    i think TJ was better than i expected and worse than i hoped last year. my biggest complaints were he held on to the ball too long and he telegraphed where he was intending to throw. he also did not pay enough attention to other options. that being said, there were a few significant other factors involved that were not his fault. he rarely had good protection and had to throw under extreme pressure. recievers dropped balls, sometimes routes were not followed and key recievers were injured. and he did show a fighting spirit, threw hard passes. his performance was uneven, not horrible.
    flynn and wilson will have to beat him; he is not gone from this team. yet.

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