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TNT 2012 draft preview: DBs to consider

Post by Eric Williams on April 25, 2012 at 10:17 am with 106 Comments »
April 25, 2012 10:20 am
Alabama safety Mark Barron (4) is considered one of the “elite” players available in the NFL draft and might be hard for the Seahawks to pass up. (AP Photo/Dave Martin)

Seattle Seahawks general manager John Schneider’s isn’t expecting his team to break up the Pro Bowl safety tandem of Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor by drafting a safety in the first round and moving Chancellor to outside linebacker.

“We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions,” quipped Schneider during an interview on 950-AM radio.

Of course, Schneider shouldn’t be interested in moving Chancellor to linebacker after how impressively he played in his first year as a starter.

However, Schneider’s sound reasoning does not rule out the possibility of Seattle selecting safety Alabama’s Mark Barron if he’s the best player on the Seahawks’ draft board when they select at No. 12 on Thursday.

But finding a regular place for Barron to play defensively could be an issue. According to Brian McIntyre of Football Outsiders, the Seahawks defensively were in nickel (five defensive backs) 36 percent of the time, and played 5-plus defensive backs on only 40 percent of the snaps in 2011, so it would be hard to get all three safeties on the field for a majority of the team’s defensive snaps in 2012 if they stayed with a similar scheme.

A more likely scenario for the Seahawks if they are not interested in selecting Barron is they could receive interest from teams looking to move up to select him. Dallas, which has the No. 14 overall pick, is considered a likely landing spot for the Alabama safety unless another team trades up to pick before the Cowboys.

Teams that need an impact defensive back like San Diego, Tennessee, Philadelphia and New England – might be willing to give the Seahawks the draft capital that Seattle would want in order to move down to the second half of the first round.

While the Seahawks might not take a defensive back early, look for them to select a safety and a cornerback later in the draft.

Rob Rang, senior draft analyst withCBSSports.com and NFLDraftScout.com, reviews players the Seattle Seahawks might select in each round of this year’s NFL draft.

First round, 12th pick: Stephon Gilmore, 6-1, 190, South Carolina
Rob’s rationale: An athletic cover corner with the size and physicality to be successful in Seattle’s press scheme, Gilmore’s stock is on the rise as the draft approaches.

Second round, 43rd pick: Alfonzo Dennard, 5-10, 204, Nebraska
Rob’s rationale: Struggled through injury-plagued season after a terrific junior campaign; viewed by some as a natural nickel back. Arrested over the weekend for assaulting a police officer.

Third round, 75th pick: Trumaine Johnson, 6-2, 204, Montana
Rob’s rationale: A dominant performer with the Grizzlies, the only thing that might push Johnson out of the draft’s top two rounds is concern about his off-field decisions.

Fourth round, 106th pick: Brandon Hardin, 6-3, 217, Oregon State
Rob’s rationale: A standout at cornerback in 2010, Hardin missed the entire 2011 season with a shoulder injury. With the size to potentially convert to safety, Hardin is nonetheless highly regarded.

Sixth pick, 181st pick: Sean Richardson, 6-3, 216, Vanderbilt
Rob’s rationale: Possessing an elite combination of size and athleticism, Richardson is intriguing – though frankly he wasn’t the player on the field that his measureables would indicate.

Seventh round, 225th pick: Donnie Fletcher, 6-1, 199, Boston College
Rob’s rationale: Physical and having proven more athletic during his Pro Day than scouts anticipated, Fletcher makes the most sense for clubs using a press scheme – like Seattle.

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  1. Maybe grab a safety in the 7th?

  2. Meeh I do not see the Hawks drafting a Defensive back in the first four rounds. It also seems like Rang knew that as well as this looks like the least thought went into this list. Common Alfonzo Dennard in the second after assaulting a police officer over the weekend, this guy is going to drop faster that Spinks did to Mike Tyson. I would not mind the Hawks selecting a safety late as they are a little thin depth wise.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    Another guy I like in the middle / late rounds is Treumaine Johnson from Montana. Someone to consider.

  4. I would not mind if Dallas got spooked by the other teams talking of moving up to Seattle’s spot to pick Barron and we picked up a 5th rounder by dropping to their spot #14 two slots down. Though in actuality it is only moving down one spot as they would select a player you really don’t want and then only the team at 13 might pick someone you might want.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Oops, I see Rang put him in there…

  6. Pete Carroll just tweeted the first in his annual Seahawks draft clue game, always (somewhat) interesting.

    1st of the #SeahawksDraftClues… “Look at all this floor space!” – bunk bed scene from Step Brothers

    I’m thinking O-line or possibly D-line, get the structure right or everything else collapses? I’m still not sure his clues have any relevance, but hey, it’s better than going through mock drafts once again.

  7. HawkfaninMT says:

    Re: Tru Johnson… I dont think he will be there in the mid to late rounds unless you consider the 2nd as “mid.” is off the field issues are nothing to speak of. He has the size and physicality along with the awarness to play CB in any scheme. His stats are down simply because QBs avoided him like the plague with the exception of bubble screens. The only reason he will make it out of the 1st is level of competition. he is better than Jimmy Smith was last year at this time. Probably better than Jimmy Smith is now.

  8. HawkfaninMT says:

    “Look at all this floor space!”

    Maybe looking at all of the players with high floors? Decastro, Upshaw, Cox, Kuechly, Barron

  9. Macabrevity says:

    No DB’s until Saturday please… too many needs elsewhere. Anyway, PC and Schneider-Man have proven they’re at the top of the league in finding gems in the defensive backfield in later rounds and UFA.

  10. I don’t want any DBs or OL (unless it’s that Stanford guy) until Saturday, at the earliest, if at all.

    LT Okung – Love this position.
    LG McQuistan – Don’t like him as a starter (love him as 6th man on OL) but really like him keeping position warm for Carp. – Happy w/this position.
    C Unger – Very happy with him.
    RG Moffitt – I know there are some questions but I’m not too worried about him.
    RT Breno – I like him when he’s run blocking and his temperment, but don’t like his pass protection. Not much depth and that worries me w/Carp at LG (although McQuistan would fill in fine in a pinch after Carp returns in ’13).

    Really, we don’t NEED help here all that badly and that’s why I’m not going to be mad if we pass up on DeCastro (even though that’s who I want and think will be the best player if he’s available).

  11. SandpointHawk says:

    Here is the clip from the Step Brothers. Think of John and Pete when (if) you watch it…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19gIKqUqPxc

  12. Ewalters7354 says:

    I honestly think Kuechly’s ceiling is at it’s peak.Really don’t see him getting past where he is now.I truly believe the hawks are gonna address the DL position in the first round.I would be fine with QC,Nick Perry,Fletcher Cox,or Michael Brokers.All great players with an elite skill set.

  13. HMMMMMM, In the clip the say twice that that all the floor space will give them room for EXTRA activities. I think they have a trade down in place.

  14. New tweet:

    #SeahawksDraftClues: “Did I catch a niner in there?” from Tommy Boy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMqu5HkGRfY&t=0m26s

    Both clues, to me, sort of points towards DeCastro. I would love to know if Pete actually gives us some inside, or just screwing around and trying to drive us crazy, either case wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

  15. Ewalters7354 says:

    I think Ron Brooks (LSU)would be a nice quality pick in the mid to late portion of the draft.Elite speed with great ball skills.I like him strictly in the slot though.

  16. I like how there are “dozens” of players that would fit better with the Bills. LMAO.

    Dear Bills, You suck. You’re not winning jack this year. You still have too many holes and you aren’t going to beat the Pats out for the division anytime soon. Take the best player. No matter what, you’re 2012 season is going to suck so set it up best for the long-term instead of fixing everything now in a season you’re not going to win anyways. Or have fun with your (more probable) bust in a couple of years when you still suck (and drafting busts helped you stay the course of still sucking). LOL!

  17. Mike Maylock who some on this message board think is the best NFL Draft Analyst out there has DeCastro ranked very low on his draft board- number 24.

    That’s a major disconnect with him and everyone on this message board.

  18. chuck_easton says:

    Georgia,

    That last post sums up my feelings on drafting DeCastro. In a vacuum he’s a great pick. If the team was one potential all pro guard away from the Superbowl I’d hijack the draft proceedings to make the pick myself.

    Problem is drafting DeCastro is like getting the 24 ” gold rims to put on your Ford Fiesta. Get the better car before you buy the fancy accessories.

  19. “Problem is drafting DeCastro is like getting the 24 ” gold rims to put on your Ford Fiesta.”

    I would bet this is the first time anyone has compared DeCastro (or guards for that matter) to something pretty.

  20. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Chuck- I have to try and think like you,( mostly rational ), to find any flaws with DeCastro, however I never thought of DeCastro as being a fancy accessory? More like a solid foundation.

    Ok Chuck or anyone else who sides against drafting DeCastro over some other players. If Decastro is there at 12, and Cox, Ingram, Kuechly, and Coples are gone, and we can’t find a trading partner to trade down with, who do we pick?
    This could very well be the position we are in on Thursday! Wow! just one day away.

  21. pabs – Mayock had Curry #1 overall a few years ago. Too strong for some and too fast for others. He’s a good/smart guy that I like, but everyone screws up. All of us.

  22. Maylock had Curry at number 7, Monroe at number 1 and Sanchez over Stafford in 2009. Everyone struck out in the 2009 draft and at the time everyone knew how great the 2010 draft would be with all the underclassmen looking for the last great draft payday.

  23. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Pabs- 24. That’s about the lowest I have seen DeCastro from any so-called expert.
    I’ve seen him as high as eight, but mostly between 11-18, so 12 really is not out of his range at all.

    The most likely position, ( other than qb, imo ), that teams will take chances on is DE/pass rusher. If we take one at 12 I want him to be one of the top two or three in the draft. Not a reach! And DeCastro is not a reach.
    This is considered a weak draft by some so-called experts.

    And BTW where was everyone last year at this time,( that is now saying we must draft a pass rusher ), when the draft was loaded with D-Line talent?

    I just don’t think that force feeding a pick on a pass rusher with our 1st this year is the best way to go if the best ones in a weak draft are already gone.

    Didn’t we do that last year with our first pick?

  24. ryanryan says:

    does anyone remember what the clues were last year? can we try to match them up with the picks as individuals or as a philosophy? i can’t remember what i did last night, let alone what he tweeted last year FFS.

  25. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Ok chuck, now I understand! I just didn’t know that DeCastro had these other talents. Lol.

    http://www.daviddecastro.com/

  26. I brought this up the other day, but DeCastro said on Sirius NFL radio that he would prefer to continue playing RIGHT guard in the NFL, since he has never played left guard.

    He did go on to say that he would be open to experimenting, but that right guard is his comfort zone and where he thinks he’ll do best.

    The cool thing about him at Stanford was watching him swing all the way around the left tackle from the right guard spot and open huge holes on that side. So athletic. But again, he’s a right guard. Hard to see a right guard going in the first 11 picks, so I think he’ll be there when we pick at 12. Prepare to have your hearts broken if that’s the guy you’re locked in on.

    I see us trading back in the first, picking up a 3rd and a 5th at some point, taking Chandler Jones or Shea McClellin in the first.

  27. http://seattle.sbnation.com/seattle-seahawks/2011/4/27/2137518/pete-carroll-2011-nfl-draft-clues-rumors

    For last years clues, I can’t seem to figure out a system but I suck at those things, besides John Moffit might look like Kenny Loggin, in some way shape or form.

  28. chrisj122 says:

    I don’t buy the arguement that drafting DeCastro at 12 is like picking up a flash accessory because he’s an OG. This is what we were told from a few members of the media when we lost Hutch, that OG is the least noticable of position on the OL. After feeling the impact of not having Hutch on the OL I will never again buy that arguement.

  29. The clues are pointless, because the fact of the matter is that Pete Carrol doesn’t even know who they will draft at this point.

  30. “That last post sums up my feelings on drafting DeCastro. In a vacuum he’s a great pick. If the team was one potential all pro guard away from the Superbowl I’d hijack the draft proceedings to make the pick myself.”

    I agree – we’ve spent a ton of draft capital the last few years on the O-line, and we’ve got a high-level guy coaching the group. Time to spend the highest picks on other areas. D-lineman/LB in round 1, skill position in round 2.

  31. chrisj122 says:

    I like to follow the philosophy of drafting the best player available regardless of position. I know it’s not always possible to do this, especially if the best player available is a position that is locked down.
    If I had to name the number one position we need to address it would obviously be D.E. a pass rusher but any pass rusher at 12 is gonna be to big of a risk IMO.

    The OL is still an area of concern if we can get DeCastro at 12 we may have an OL core that can be together for many years.

    I believe the Hawks will be a much better team next year and years to come, that means all of their future picks will be in the 20’s at best (without trading up). Which means this will be the last time we get to draft a player who is a probowl caliber type player straight out of college.

  32. GeorgiaHawk says:

    chrisj122- You make sense when you say ” feeling the impact of not having Hutch”!

    And I think there’s still this big void or wound that just hasn’t healed for some of us since losing Hutch.

    When we lost Hutch, we didn’t just lose a great player, we lost our toughness! Just like that! Gone! And I want that back!

    That’s why, ( at least for me ), when I see someone that is being compared to him, and perhaps within our reach to choose him I’m all for healing that wound and filling that void. Especially if it means choosing between filling that void and reaching for someone who mayyyyyy be the answer to our pass rushing problems.

    So yes, I get a little over the top with this, but I will never forget the blow to the gut that day when this franchise lost their toughest player!

  33. Dukeshire says:

    Let’s not get to revisionist. Seattle wasn’t regarded “tough” league wide when Hutch was here. We may have known what Seattle had. But don’t kid yourself, there were a lot of people who though Seattle was soft, as much as I hate to say it.

    BTW – ESPN is unwatchable today. More BS than pasture in Texas, as a friend likes to say.

  34. Dukeshire says:

    *thought*

  35. Thanks for the link, Sandpoint. I remember the movie and laughed again. Can’t figure out what it means except maybe they’re not going to draft someone who has to ask permission of his parents.

  36. SandpointHawk says:

    True Duke, we were thought of as a finesse teamin 05. However we were also acknowledged for having a tough O Line. Blow in the gut when Hutch left, to say the least. As for tomorrow, I have no idea at this point, this FO is very good at smoke and mirrors (and that is a good thing) But they are my Seahawks, they will be the best team in the NFL every year from now until I pass and that’s just the way I roll…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

  37. SandpointHawk says:

    *team in*… I fixed that damn it

  38. chrisj122 says:

    “That last post sums up my feelings on drafting DeCastro. In a vacuum he’s a great pick. If the team was one potential all pro guard away from the Superbowl I’d hijack the draft proceedings to make the pick myself.”

    To me that statement is a no brainer. In that situation I could even see reaching for player to fill that need if that was all that was needed.
    But if you have an opportunity to get a guy who is a probowl caliber guy straight out of college and a guy who could go to multiple probowls year after year and if this guy fills an area of concern. I say take him instead of over reaching just for the sake of trying to fill a need. Even if that other player fills an area of deeper concern.

  39. chrisj122 says:

    In 05′ Alexander could run to left all day and pick up 5yac, because of two guys.
    Duke as much as I respect what you say I have to disagree some what. Our team was considered a finesse team because we were a pass first offense. We used the pass to set up the run but once we got the lead it was pound the ball to left all day. Some of the media did consider us a soft team but anyone who new our OL it always about two guys and know one could call them soft.
    Here is a game plan a came across from the 05 season.

    Game Plan: get lead, then pound ball to the left all day baby!!!!!lol….

  40. SandpointHawk says:

    This link is for klm008… I know you still read the blog because you show up at the live chats…feel free to stop by anytime, as an analyst I like your stats….

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/47157103/ns/nfl//

  41. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “When we lost Hutch, we didn’t just lose a great player, we lost our toughness!”

    If I thought the whole team was tough or perceived by others to be tough I would have said that.
    I said nothing about Seattle being tough as a whole.

    Do you really think for one minute that I thought the Seahawks were a tough overall team back in 2005?, or that anyone else thought we were tough?
    Just by me saying that when we lost Hutch we lost our toughness should answer that!
    Kinda missleading don’t you think?

  42. Dukeshire says:

    chrisj122 – Understood. But my comment was on the perception around the league. As I said, we knew what Seattle had. And would it surprise you to know that Alexander had more yards rushing off the right in ’05, than left? True. Of course, defenses staked the weak side against them, in those days. but interesting, none-the-less.

  43. HawkfaninMT says:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d8285b8ab/Draft-Journey-Upshaw-returns-to-Alabama

    I know the sentiment here is Edge Rusher or Decastro. But something about Upshaw is really intriguing to me. Great video about a solid guy that seems to be a beast on the field and a stand up guy off of it. Michael Oher of a defense maybe?

  44. I would be happy with the following trio of players –

    Ingram
    DeCastro
    McClellin

    I’d like to draft any one of them between picks 15-21.

  45. How come no one here talks about Chandler Jones, DE from Syracuse?

  46. Anyone else here want to throw their iPhone out the window when trying to comment through the TNT app?

  47. I like Chandler Jones also, but it always worries me when I don’t hear much about a guy until a month before the draft and there isn’t a lot of college production. Apparently Jones has been on NFL teams’ radars for a while, but based on production (10 sacks in 3 years) it has been more of a projection than a known quantity, not that such a thing exists in the draft.

  48. Dukeshire says:

    Did anyone hear John Schneider on SiriusXM today? Cool interview, but of course you have to deal with Adam Schein.

    http://siriusxmsports.posterous.com/john-schneider-seahawks-gm-joined-adam-schein-74360

  49. pabs – I don’t know much about him. That’s why I don’t talk about him. I haven’t watched any You Tube stuff either. That’s the bad part of being a fan, we can’t do this stuff all day for our job like they can. And it baffles me how my (and most of our) 1st round picks would have turned out so much better than that of Ruskell!

  50. Dukeshire says:

    Carson – YES

  51. GeorgiaHawk says:

    HawkfaninMT- That was a great video of Upshaw! Who I really liked a few months back as our #1 pick.

  52. I listened to the interview live. He’s a likable guy and it’s no wonder he is so connected throughout the league. I liked the part about moving around in the draft, and Schein certainly liked the “drool” comment. I like Adam Schein, personally. I’ve been listening to the show forever, and he always has good things to say about the Hawks.

  53. From a measurables point of view, Jones reminds me a lot of Jason Pierre-Paul who also was not dominant in college but had just 1 year at the Division 1 level vs 3 for Jones.

    With DEs, I like to see players who have a high ceiling and can continue to develop into their body type. Sometimes these players are projects in their first year and don’t really dominate until their second year. And also the bust factor is high because the player has to be extremely motivated with a high motor.

    Fortunately for the Giants, Pierre-Paul was that type of player.

  54. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i talked about jones earlier today watched some tape actually think he will be good in a year or two, great against the run not so great pass rush skill. prisco has us taking him at 12 what a joke.

  55. Dukeshire says:

    pabuwal – Brockers is a guy that I see who will continue to develop into his body, as well. From the interior, I think he’s a guy that will just get better and better. (Not advocating for him at 12, only commenting…)

  56. Its better to take the player who will be great in a year or 2 than the player who is good now and will never be great.

    Tim Ruskell taught us this one.

  57. raymaines says:

    OK, I admit it. I’m pretty well maxed out with this. Let me change the subject.

    Who will be the first BUST selected on Thursday night?

    I’m voting for Trent Richardson. He and his family will cry and be grateful in New York and we’ll never hear from him again. He’ll play for five years on three different teams, then buy a new car dealership in a small town somewhere in the south.

  58. HawkfaninMT says:

    Since this thread is supposed to be about DBs… What about “the other” Alabama CB, DaQuan Menzie. I would think our target at CB would be a Nickle back to cover the slot. So the hieght requisite that PC has tended to use could be more moot. He ran a slowish 40, and that may push his stock down to the 6th if we are lucky. Although he may not even be an upgrade to Lewis and Tru, so maybe it’s not even a consideration. Just another name to throw out for discussion as I kill another 23 hours!

  59. Hammajamma says:

    Got to say how much more interesting draft day is with Schneider and Carrol. No disrespect to Holmgren as a coach(no such disclaimer for Ruskell), but he bored me and his drafts had more misses than hits. These guys are just creatively refreshing and manage to give good interviews while keeping cards hidden. Who do you think is managing the Cleveland board? The Browns are a mess.

  60. HawkfaninMT says:

    1st Bust of the draft? I think it will be Morris Claiborne. People aren’t even proclaiming him a better prospect than Peterson. The comparison there should be all over the draft world. Similar size, Same position, Same College, Same pre-draft hype, Same expected draft positioning, etc… But you hear none of that. To add insult to injury, peterson wasn’t even that good as CB last year. The only reason any of us heard his name was because he ran kicks and punts back extremely well! Does Claiborne even do that? I really hope he is the pick for Stl at 6

  61. The Browns are a mess? They have great pieces on their OL and DL and have 6 picks in the first 4 rounds. They have hit home runs in the 1st round in the two years Holmgren has been there and they also haven’t “panicked” like Mr. Happy and the Duke Boy at the QB position (as there hasn’t been anyone they thought has been worth panicking for). The Browns aren’t going to win their division this year, but they are in so much better shape moving forward than they were before Holmgren and Company took over.

  62. GeorgiaHawk says:

    The Browns really need to draft well this year, imo, because the Browns are still just the Browns until they can start winning games. I do agree that they are a mess at qb! Worse than what we had last year.

    The first bust will be a d-lineman. Hopefully not one that we pick.

  63. pabs – Watch Jones at the 4:05 mark. That’s impressive. LOL!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftx60vRJyYg

  64. Hammajamma says:

    BK, yes, I do think the Browns are still a mess, at least offensively. I’ll agree that Phil Taylor is not the second coming of Lamar King, but he was outplayed by another rookie, Sheard, who looks like a player in waiting. I wouldn’t call that a home run by any stretch. I like their young defense, but Seattle got better, quicker, IMO, on that side of the ball and the Seahawks aren’t nearly as conventional.

  65. We’ll agree to disagree. A young stud Center and a relatively young franchise LT are good building blocks up front (not brought in by them) and having all those picks this year will make them better. In what I saw/heard, I thought Taylor was fine. Just b/c a later pick outplayed him doesn’t make him a bust. At that spot you want a good player (early 20s) and that’s what they got. That would be like if had drafted Carimi last year (and he did good for us) but was outplayed by Richard Sherman so we complained about all the picks in front of Sherman.

  66. BobbyK – Red Bryant would be pleased with that INT and run.

    But I have to think that Carroll is enamored with Coples’ size at the end of the day.

  67. I can’t wait to know for sure! It’s funny how we’re all so jacked for the #12, but what happens on Friday will be more important, IMO.

  68. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Agree! BobbyK.

    Since this thread started out about DBs, what do you think of Atlanta trading a 7 for Samuel?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7853300/atlanta-falcons-acquire-asante-samuel-philadelphia-eagles

  69. DreadHawks says:

    Mayock has the Hawks taking Coples. I got a bad feeling abpot Coples and can’t put my finger on it. For me it’s trade down or DeCastro.Although I’have somewhat warmed up to Upshaw. I like what little I’ve seen of him. Won’t be long now!

  70. Seahawks2620 says:

    Coples is going to be a monster in this league.

  71. Seahawks2620 says:

    Coples may not have gotten a ton of sacks this past season, but beat the left tackle on almost every down. He consistently got pressure on the QB, a weak secondary enabled the opposing QB to release the ball very quickly. I am genuinely not concerned with the “motivation” or “lack of effort” factor in the equation. I really do think that the fact that there are so many young studs on the Seahawks defense, will motivate Coples into wanting to be a part of what is looking like a transformation into a top 5 defense. Carroll pumping up everyone, instilling loads of confidence into his younger players, helps as well.

    I understand that not everyone will agree, just my opinion. I think he will be a very dominant DE.

  72. I may not be on the Coples bandwagon right now, but I will be if they take him.

  73. Pete Carroll has now tweeted four clues on twitter #SeahawksDraftClues
    1) “Look at all this Floor Space”
    2) “Did I catch a Niner in there?”
    3) “In the face!”
    4) “no one knows what it means, but its provocative”

    What is he saying? I think its obvious:

    “I love offensive lineman, we will sack Alex Smith next year, and if you are paying attention to my twitter feed, then I’m just going to mess with you.”

  74. JazBadAzz says:

    Coples will be a beast seahawk2620… my question is everyone saying he will be a bust but only points to a little of a down year after a turmoiled filled offseason for the tarheels. He didn’t get his nose dirty and kept trying to help the team with an overhaul in the coaching department. I liked that he stuck with the program and tried to make the best out of a crappy situation. (He could have easily went to the sup draft, if possible…not sure on the critiria).

    Who has predicted a player was going to be a bust, and got it right? I normally hear the player is clean and can’t miss then the player busts! The crap people think they know about the future amazes me…if they can predict someones life then they are in the wrong business. And that goes for the ones that say a player will be all pro or hof too…pfft!

  75. Dukeshire says:

    I think Coples is a real possibility at 12. The concern with him is the addage; if you can’t trust him without money, how do you trust him with it. That is, the first six weeks of last season he was tanking. He turned it on, of course. But that aside, Seattle could do a hell of a lot worse.

  76. JazBadAzz says:

    Pete tweets- he obviously is watching tv and qouting songs from the radio…he always does that!

  77. The nice thing about the new rookie wage scale is that the second contract is much bigger than the first. Hopefully, that’s enough for Coples to be motivated.

    Its so rare to find that size and that speed. UNC has really put out some good NFL talent the past few years.

  78. Seahawks2620 says:

    Not only was Coples double teamed on almost every down, but he was triple teamed as well! The amazing thing is, he still got to the quarterback more times than not. I am really high on the kid. My only knock on him, would be that he is sometimes overly aggressive and misses the play. I would argue that having an overly aggressive demeanor on the field, would not come from a player who gives up “frequently”. Just sayin. haha

  79. Dukeshire says:

    Coples has that great length Carroll covets, in seemingly every player on defense. Physically, he fits the profile, that’s for sure.

    Thankfully, we’re inside 24 hours.

  80. Seahawks2620 says:

    Dukeshire- Agreed. Risky, but it could be huge for this defense if he pans out like I think he will. I would love 15 sacks a season, however I would be just as ecstatic with all of the pressure that he will consistently bring.

  81. Seahawks2620 says:

    Dukeshire- Seriously, I am burnt out on speculation. I just want for us to pick someone, so I can go hit up youtube for an hour or so. haha

  82. Palerydr says:

    I disagree with your assessment of Coples as I watched quite a bit of youtube footage on him. He didn’t beat the double teams, he rarely beat the singles, He showed no effort in chasing the play that went away from him. That’s not gonna get it done when he’s gettin paid.

  83. KelsoHawk says:

    When does the “Inside” selections begin?

  84. KelsoHawk says:

    In English, when do the “Insiders” selections begin?

  85. Seahawks2620 says:

    Watch the Missouri and Miami game. Those two alone presented many many times when he would chase the play after it has gotten past him, as well as fighting through double teams. Not saying he is going to be the greatest player at DE in the history of the league, just that he will be a force. There is absolutely nothing from watching him all last season, that would make me think that he gave up on “many” plays. If you watch tape of any team in the NFL, you will see many players not chasing after the play once they have gotten beat. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they aren’t giving a full out effort on every down. Not arguing that you are wrong about him, it’s just how I see it.

    As for DeCastro, beat me up if you must guys, but I don’t want him. We don’t need a OG, regardless of how good he is, in the first when Cable has proven his ability to make below average OG’s into serviceable players. If we weren’t concerned about the pass rush and the LB position, I would have no qualms about selecting David.

  86. JazBadAzz says:

    We did the insider mock draft last Saturday if that’s what you mean Kelsohawk.

  87. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    2620, cable wont be here forever and i am sorry this line is not serviceable when a TE or RB or both have to stay in on pass pro

  88. JazBadAzz says:

    I’m with you seahawk2620…You are right about he will be a force, I would elaborate but this dead horse has been beating severely. I agree with the other guys, just can’t wait to get our guy tomorrow and thursday.

    BTW- Don’t listen to people that make their judgments off “youtube” videos!!!

  89. KelsoHawk says:

    The 7 round Hawk selections that was supposed to start this afternoon according to Eric , JazBadAzz.

  90. Dukeshire says:

    2620 – burned out on it all, you and me both. Lol

  91. Soggybuc says:

    Does ATL. even have a draft pic this year? I would agree projecting a guy as a bust is rather a stupid thing. unless it’s someone like Vontaze Burfict. That’s a no brainer.

  92. jawpeace says:

    Fans and media always put a very heavy focus on the first two rounds of the draft. But in actuality it is like fantasy football(that is a dichotomy)championships are won by how well your late round additions and free agents turn out. The Hawks need to find another Baldwin at a different position and continue the strong drafting in the later rounds. Go Hawks less than 24 hours to the draft.

  93. EyeAmBaldman says:

    Every year it seems like the “experts” know exactly who we will get, and since JS and PC have come on board I seem to get it wrong every year.

  94. JazBadAzz says:

    One thing I don’t like that people are catching on around the media is, Pete Carrol likes “this type of guy for his system”, I forgot the word they always use but, they are pushing the guys that normally slip in the draft…back up the draft board! they need to leave Pete’s guys alone and let us build this ship y’all just take the pictures!

  95. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I still think that the Seahawks will draft Coples. If anyone can light a fire under his behind it will be Carroll!

    Not who I want, but big deal! Like BobbyK says, what happens in day two will be more important.

  96. I have season tickets for Northwestern football games next year!

  97. Whoever we draft, I hope he’s good!

  98. EyeAmBaldman says:

    I don’t want Coples either, but I’ll go with whomever is picked and be cool with it. I think they will end up drafting a couple linebackers FWIW

  99. Are we going to do the Insider Challenge this year where we pick who we think are going to be picked by the ‘Hawks? You know, the contest where you’re lucky to get 1 right and are pretty much guaranteed a win by getting 2 correct. LOL.

  100. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Over 100 posts! I predict over 300 on Thursday!

  101. EyeAmBaldman says:

    Bobby, I thought Eric said it was going to start this afternoon, but….we’re still waiting. Which I guess is good so I can continue to over think who I think the Hawks will take. LOL

  102. chrisj122 says:

    I’ve already said my peace, (DECASTRO) but I too will be glad when this speculation garbage is over.

    I try to avoid mock drafts, just a waste of time. Nobody ever can accurately predict who teams will draft, although this year should be a little easier to predict without Al the no longer living corpse.

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