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Morning links: Ruud awakening

Post by Eric Williams on April 24, 2012 at 7:57 am with 44 Comments »
April 24, 2012 7:57 am
New Seattle Seheahawks linebacker Barrett Ruud. (AP Photo/Frederick Breedon)

My story from today goes into a little bit more detail on Seattle head coach Pete Carroll’s revelation that veteran linebacker Barrett Ruud is still nursing groin, knee and shoulder injuries that landed him on the season-ending injured reserve while still with Tennessee last season.

Although Ruud is still recovering, Carroll believes he will be healthy when training camp starts, and can return to the productivity he showed while with Tampa Bay.

Before an injury-plagued 2011 season, Ruud served as Tampa Bay’s starting middle linebacker, finishing with at least 114 tackles from 2007 to 2010, so he’s been productive when healthy.

With Ruud banged up, middle linebacker seems like an obvious need heading into Thursday’s draft. However, the fact that second-year pro K.J. Wright can also play inside linebacker gives Seattle some options. Although Wright played 15 games at outside linebacker in his rookie season, he served as Hawthorne’s backup at inside linebacker, practicing there during the week while Hawthorne rested a sprained knee.

Wright even started Seattle’s regular-season opener at San Francisco last season at middle linebacker in place of Hawthorne.

Clare Farnsworth of says Seattle will continue to building the foundation they set in the past two seasons.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times discusses how the Seahawks will approach the quarterback situation in the draft.

Art Thiel of believes the Seahawks should pass on Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill if he’s available at No. 12.

John Boyle of the Everett Herald writes that the flexibility of Seattle’s coaching staff in terms of finding roles for players that scouts likes has helped the team in the draft.

Doug Farrar of Yahoo Sports writes that the Seahawks have struck the right balance in draft evaluation.’

Pete Prisco of CBS Sports writes that the tape doesn’t lie – South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram is the best pass rusher in the draft.

Russ Lande of the Sporting News says don’t believe the rumors that Melvin Ingram is sliding, and that he is the top pass rusher in the draft.

Mike Mayock of the NFL Network has some interesting names in his top 100, including Syracuse defensive end Chandler Jones in his top 10.

Pat Kirwan of CBS Sports believes there’s some excellent value to be had in the second round.

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  1. If Ingram is the best pass rusher in the draft, why did he have so many zero sack games last year? Was he double-teamed a lot?

    In contrast, Mercilus registered at least one sack in 11 of his 13 games. That’s pretty impressive.

  2. Dukeshire says:

    Ruud’s going to be 29 next month, so considering the injuries and age, he’s clearly no the future at Mike. I see him as a depth signing and little else (although perhaps a mentor to Kuechly…?). The real question becomes, if they move Wright to Mike until he’s healthy, how do they approach Sam? I would much prefer they address the middle and allow Wright to stay on the strong side, moving to middle only out of necessity. I don’t like the idea of shuffling players around simply because one positions hasn’t been addressed in earnest.

  3. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Kuechly and a pass rusher in the second would be a nice way to start off the draft.

  4. ryanryan says:

    i agree duke

    “I hurt my shoulder early on and unfortunate I had (injuries) that didn’t go away,” Ruud said on Monday (jan 2, 2012). “And that was the frustrating part. But I should be full speed by the time offseason stuff comes along.”

    groin, knee and shoulder injuries last year and had surgery on his shoulder in the middle of January…

    we will be drafting dl, lb, rb, ol and have (as it stands) 6 picks to do it with. hope they don’t miss.

  5. I haven’t been able to post a lot these few months, which is a shame because I always enjoy discussing the draft with you guys. I’m really excited to see where we go on Friday, I’m almost certain it will be defense, but you never know with Carroll and Schneids.

    Sadly, I will be out on Friday when the draft is live over here in Europe, which sucks because rounds 2 and 3 are always the most exciting to me, and this year we should be in great position if someone slips unexpectedly, I’ll try to sneak to the restrooms once or twice during the night to check up on the Hawks, but not being able to see the thing live with Mayock and crew is a shame.

  6. If he’s 100% for training camp, that’s all that matters. I doubt they would have signed him if they didn’t think this. This could also be a ploy (that they said this, not that it isn’t true) so people will think we’re more looking at LB in the first when maybe they aren’t going to take that route. Who knows. It’ll be nice to know for sure in a couple of days!

  7. grizindabox24 says:

    I actually liked what Sando did in the mock yesterday, but doubt that would really happen. If it were possible though, and the Hawks picked at 27, 31, and 43 think of the possibilities.

  8. piperfeltcher says:

    I am hoping for Kuechly or Decastro even though I am not a fan of LB or Guards in the 1st. Those 2 positions are the biggest holes right now and I hate the thought of either Rudd or McQ starting. If Kuechly is as good as advertised picking him might be just what the Hawks need to improve there pass rush as it would allow the D-line to rush the passer knowing there is a LB who can make the tackle on a draw or screen play. It might also make it possable to play the safeties deeper and better coverage leads to more sacks.

  9. Dukeshire says:

    If Ruud is healthy by the time the season starts, that’s great. My question though, is for how long, at his age? And what’s plan B? I just don’t see him as a player that improves the LB corp, but rather a stop gap. Typically, that’s not a Carroll / Schneider move, without following it up with something more “permanent”.

  10. In my perfect world I wish we could trade back a little and pick up an extra 2nd – I know wishful thinking but I think if we could get 3 guys in the first 55 or so picks this would be a great thing for us right now.

    We are more than just 1 or 2 guys away for this season – so if we could pick up a DL, LB and and BPA with those 3 picks it would be a great day for us.

    OR – move back up into picks 30-35 with 2 2nd rounders

    I know probably not possible but I am just wishing here.

    If you could get Mercilus and Curry – and ???? with the first 3 I think everyone would be giddy. since you had a late 2nd, and an early 3rd to go – WOOT

  11. grizindabox24 says:

    I am not sold on Mercilus or Coples.

  12. piperfeltcher says:

    I really like Coaples but is a DE to rotate with Clem and Red more needed then a MLB or Guard right now is the question.

  13. RDPoulsbo says:

    I think the Sando move down in their mock is a possibility the Pats are in bad need of upgrading their secondary and Barron would do just that. It’s probably more realistic that the Chargers could make an offer though for the same guy. There’s going to be a run on defensive players in this range and he’s the only safety in the draft that would be considered safe.

    I’m not convinced Kuechly will be the best value on the board at #12, not that he won’t be a good player. I’m starting to feel Rudd will be the starter. Wright is already the backup at Mike, so I’m not sure why they’d go out and get him just to be a backup when they’re more pressed for depth on the outside. Rudd will be a step down, but probably not as big a dropoff that makes a Kuechly pick worthwhile vs. picking one of the other guys being suggested.

  14. grizindabox24 says:

    Kuechly and DeCastro do not meet the Hawks biggest need, which is someone that can rush the QB. If Clem goes down, the Hawks will be in real bad shape. They must address that with at least one of their first two picks.

  15. piperfeltcher says:

    I think Kuechly would improve the pass rush as it would allow the D-line to worry less about the run and would allow the Hawks to blitz a LB more as they know Kuechly is there to back up the play and would allow the Hawks to play there safeties back which would improve coverage which leads to more sacks. There are lots of ways to improve pass rush other then drafting a DE.

  16. If they don’t get DeCastro, I don’t think they need to take a guard at all. Let Carp compete at LG when he gets healthy and roll with Moffitt on the other side. That’s a pretty solid duo moving forward. I’m not in favor of a #1 pick being used on anything other than a pass rusher (if not named DeCastro). I think they can get a LB in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th that’s a better long term solution than the current short term fix (Ruud). If they could trade down and still get one of the pass rushers like Mercilus, Perry, or even Curry well down the order, I’d be happy there, too.

  17. Seattle really sits in a good position at 12 overall. Once the clock starts and nerves go raw somebody will want to move up for their guy. Be it Barron, Keuchly, Coples, Tannehill, De Castro, Ingram, or Floyd/Blackmon. Schneider seems to be completely at peace with letting the draft come to them. They’ll look at their board to see if somebody jumps out at them, they’ll pounce. But, if the gaps between that player and the next line (same position) on Seattle’s board isn’t that big but the projected draft slot is fairly wide, I see Seattle securing additional 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th round picks. Draft day can’t come soon enough!

  18. Dukeshire says:

    “Rudd will be a step down, but probably not as big a dropoff that makes a Kuechly pick worthwhile vs. picking one of the other guys being suggested.” – Perhaps, and it’s hard to argue against that, as much as I like Kuechly.

  19. piperfeltcher says:

    I am not sold on Moffitt he struggled the 1st 4 games which is expected as a rookie with the line struggling, then he got hurt and while hurt got a 4 game suspension for drugs. Nothing about that says solid to me. I think he could be a good player but not sure I want to go into a season with him starting and no real backup.

  20. Random question if anyone can help, does anyone know where I can get a custom seahawks uni (Reebok) before I get stuck with only the Nike option. I’m looking for a Ladies Baldwin (15) jersey and a white Men’s fan (12) jersey. Doesn’t have to be authentic, but just want to get some sort of legit site that will actually send me something. Thanks in advance.

  21. grizindabox24 says:

    piper, currently the Hawks have Moffitt, Lutui, McQuistan, and Jeanpierre. I just do not see the need at OG anywhere close to the need for a guy that can get pressure on the opposing QB.

  22. HawkfaninMT says:

    @trublu: You may be able to get some off the Reebok website, and they would probably be clearanced and cheap. But I doubt if they have a ladies baldwin. you would probably need that custom made and I don’t know if they are allowed to do that since the Nike deal has officially taken over. Other than that, i would check Ebay

  23. Dukeshire says:

    I would argue Moffitt (along with Okung)was their most consistent lineman, until his injury. He played well.

  24. For SD to move up with us it would take something like – they get 12 and our third and we get 18 – their 2nd and their 3rd. Still isn’t quite right but close.

    For NE to move up to 12 it would take their 31 AND next years #1 to get all the way up to 12. Not sure I want to go all the back to 31 this year.

  25. RDPoulsbo says:

    I’m more sold on Coples and Mercilus. When it comes to Coples, it just might be how you look at it. I see it as a potential gift of a top 5 player falling to #12 than a continued worry that he’s falling and he should be pushed down further. In general, I’m very nervous about late risers, but love late fallers. The only thing that’s happened between the bowl games and now are the workout warriors get to show what they do off the field. Mercilus has been a consistent playmaker. Usually a sack and a forced fumble a game. How can you not like that on your team?

    Ingram is one of those late risers I mention, but I can see why he’s highly regarded though. Of the film I’ve watched, he’d be a natural replacement for Clemons, but they’re not looking to replace Clemons this year. He’s a pure speed rusher but is incredibly predictable with his moves. He’s either going to try to run past you on the outside or spin move back inside. He has short arms, which limits some of the moves he can make. I don’t see him playing anything other than Leo in Seattle where he can make use of space to his advantage. For that reason, I’d put him below the Coples and Mercilus. Really though, you’re splitting hairs with these guys. There’s a reason why they will be 1st round picks. Each one is completely different from the other.

  26. “If Ingram is the best pass rusher in the draft, why did he have so many zero sack games last year?”

    From what I’ve seen, South Carolina relied on Ingram to do a little bit of everything, including some DT, and didn’t use him primarily as an edge rusher, but he was disruptive everywhere he played. I think his high value is due to NFL coaches looking at what they can make of him.

    I like Mercilus too, but he is in a little bit different category. He was super productive rushing the passer last year, but that’s the role that was set up for him, and I think there are still questions whether he can be effective as an every-down DE.

    If they can’t get Ingram at 12, Mercilus would make sense as a target to trade down for, but I’d rather see them draft a more complete player like Dont’a Hightower who can make plays on 3 downs.

  27. Macabrevity says:

    JacDG – do you have ESPNAmerica out where you are? Round 1 starts at 2am in the morning Friday in my time zone. I’ll be watching!!!

    RDPoulsbo – Well said!

    BobbyK – I’m with you 100% on that. Pass Rusher above all… unless DeCastro slips, simply because he’s the type of dominant talent that can really tip the scales for us in the NFC West. Imagine running the ball right into the strength of the 49ers defense and making them eat dirt? Who doesn’t want to see that?!?

  28. tchristensen says:

    Can anyone tell me how I can find Mike Sando’s mock draft from yesterday? Sounds very interesting. Thanks!

  29. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    Griz, you could argue moffit is good not great but good. the others we have are a ok back up a guy that cant keep his weight down and a career back up that gives me great confidence in our ability to protect flynn. decastro is the best and safest pick in this draft.
    that said if we can trade back and pick up an extra 2 and 4 we should be able to get a good gaurd and meet the needs for a pass rusher. and if we can trade with chargers there is still a chance decastro is there and we get extra picks. love that !

    RDP ingram has been in top 10 forever he may be sliding to us but not much farther

  30. piperfeltcher says:

    I do not see a lot of probowls comming from those 4 guards. I thought Unger and Okung were the most consistant O-linemen last year. I thought Moffitt and Carp really struggled with pass protection and the right side of the line actually improved once they went out.

  31. grizindabox24 says:

    piper and hawk, I am not saying that the group of guards the Hawks have are Pro-bowl players or that DeCastro would not be a great guy to have on a team…what I am saying is that Hawks have a glaring weakness rushing the passer that is a much bigger need.

  32. piperfeltcher says:

    The defence was in the top half of the league and was young and returns all its key players so even if they do not draft anyone on D it will still be a strength. The offence last year was what held the team back and the biggest weakness was pass blocking so I think Decastro is as big a need as any other. I would hate to see McQ whiff on a block during week 2 and Flynn get hurt as regardless of how good the D played the season would be lost.

  33. This is why I would love to get another 2nd round pick: (from Kirwan- but he is not the only one that has written about these things)

    “The first round will take most of the quality pass rushers. But mark my words: Vinnie Curry, Jared Crick and Bruce Irvin will go in the second round and get after quarterbacks like first-rounders.

    Figure at least two full time starting offensive linemen in the second round from the group that includes Bobbie Massie, Amini Silatolu, Kevin Zeitler, and Peter Konz. If Mike Adams drops to the second round, then it’s a lock that round will produce two starters.

    As for linebackers, Luke Kuechly deservedly is the first-round headliner, but the second round should see Donta Hightower, LaVonte David, Mykal Kendricks and Zach Brown come off the board and at least one guy from that group will record 100 tackles next season.”

    If we came away with any 2 of these guys in the 2nd round – I would extremely excited!!

  34. piper, losing Hawthorne was a big loss of a key player for the D.

    That said, I’m sort of hoping they don’t draft Kuechly to replace Hawthorne. Not because I don’t like Kuechy, I’d totally love watching him play, and he can do things in coverage that Hawthorne could never do, but I just don’t like to see a team lose a key player and then spend a first round pick to replace him. Feels like treading water instead of moving forward. For the first round, I’m hoping we gets more of an impact playmaker than Kuechly seems to be.

  35. grizindabox24 says:

    piper, if Clemons goes down, who do you believe on the Hawks can get pressure on the QB? How good could the Hawk defense be with another guy that can get pressure on the QB? I am not saying that the Hawks should not look to upgrade every position if possible, but another pass rusher would have a larger impact than a Guard. I would also say that DE, LB, and RB all have more need than the Guard position. I personally think that the #12 spot is not a good spot for the Hawks in terms of what guy will be available that fits their need, but it could be very good to match with another team to make a deal.

  36. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    Griz, i have been making this opoint for a month or more if ingram and cox are gone the rest of the DE are a crap shoot where as decastro is a plug and play impact player. and although the D-line has a hard time getting pressure overall its a top ten D where as the O other than the run game blows, the pass pro is horrendous. so the question is this is a pass rusher who may be a situational at best better than clem and move clem to the role of situational or do you want a guy that you can plug in and play 4 down guy from the go. easy one for me.

  37. piperfeltcher says:

    I like Hawthorne but he played hurt most of last season and his play had slipped because of it. I think if Rudd is healthy he can fill the MLB spot without a huge dropoff but Rudd is nothing more then adaquate. I see Clem and Red playing the majority of snaps at DE and think a situational pass rusher can be found in the 3-4th round in this draft. I like Coaples and Perry and think both will be stars but if the Hawks draft them they will not play a lot this year and I am hoping Clem is resigned. Decastro would come in and start and give the Hawks a point of strength with there left side of the Oline which is a big thing for a young QB to not have to worry about his blind side.

  38. grizindabox24 says:

    hawkfan, I just see the Hawks moving the pick before they would take DeCastro. I am really not excited about many of the options match up to needs for the Hawks at #12.

  39. When I wonder what Schneider and Carroll will do in this draft, the first thing I think of is K.J. Wright. Schneider traded down to add more mid-round picks and they took Wright at the top of the 4th round. Wright wasn’t on any sportswriter’s mock draft and wasn’t even invited to the combine. But there he was starting last year. Lots of surprises coming this weekend.

  40. RDPoulsbo says:

    I think there would have to be some trades in the 5-11 spots for Ingram or Cox to fall to Seattle. With the massive D-Line needs in St. Louis, Jacksonville, Carolina, and Buffalo, neither will fall to Seattle.

    As for the o-line, remember that Week 1, they fielded the least experienced one in 16 years. There’s a lot of development still left to do. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t draft DeCastro, but you shouldn’t give up on anyone either.

    JS is right that they’ll have a lot more freedom this year since there aren’t the gaping holes, as in the last couple years, but the pass rush is easily the most pressing one that needs to be addressed. I’d rather they take a risk on one of these DEs at #12 because the choices become very thin in the 2nd round.

  41. Macabrevity says:

    Mayock really has man-wood for Chandler Jones….. what’s up with that? And he has DeCastro as his 24th ranked player… hmmm.

  42. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    wow 24th thats funny everyone else has him in the 6-8 range. several
    have him as the best O-Line prospect in the draft. i am not suggesting we give up on anyone but we dont have a left guard period

  43. HeinieHunter says:

    The first few gams last season our OL was a disaster! Even as the season unfolded our TE stayed in to help block. I think OL is a big need and if DeCastro is available take him (BPA). If not DE LB is fine with me.

  44. Strategicdust says:

    Considering just how often offensive lineman (particularly ours)get injured during the course of a year and the current injury status of our lineman, Decastro would be a solid pick. Yes, we’ve gotten better depth on our line but I’d argue it’s not necessarily above average starting quality. Not yet, at least. You’ve invested a good sum of money in keeping our running back and finding a new QB, upgrading and solidifying your O line seems like a smart investment.
    I have no problem drafting pass rushers but don’t you want your 1st rounder to be the best man at their position? I don’t get a sense of that with any of the proposed pass rushers. I do get that from Decastro or Kuechly which is why I’m more comfortable picking them first.

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