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Morning links: Cruising the mock drafts

Post by Eric Williams on April 9, 2012 at 10:40 am with 36 Comments »
April 9, 2012 10:40 am
North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples. (AP Photo/Gerry Broome)

With a little over two weeks until this year’s draft, we take a quick spin around some of the mock drafts around the country to see who they have the Seattle Seahawks selecting in the first round.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper has Seattle selecting North Carolina DE Quinton Coples in the first round at No. 12, and Oklahoma linebacker Ronnell Lewis at No. 43 in the second round. You must be an ESPN insider to view this.

Russ Lande of the Sporting News also has Seattle selecting Coples.

Everyone listed here from the NFL Network has Seattle selecting Luke Kuechly at No. 12 – except for Charlie Davis, who has the Seahawks selecting Memphis DT Dontari Poe.

Scouting service Ourlads.com has Seattle selecting Clemson edge rusher Andre Branch.

Evan Silva of ProFootballTalk.com has Seattle selecting South Carolina cornerback Stephon Gilmore.

Matt Bowen of the National Football Post breaks down Stanford TE Coby Fleener working as the Tiger in a two tight end formation, which is likely the way Seattle would use Fleener if they drafted him.

Mike Sando of ESPN takes a closer look at what teams in the NFC West would be interested in Fleener, and where they sit in terms of draft position to get him.

Steve Kelly of the Seattle Times writes about former Seahawks Joe Tafoya and Kerry Carter, who have created mobile apps for athletes to interact easier with fans.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times travels to Montana to get an up-close look at the latest mishaps of ex-NFL player Ryan Leaf.

Rob Rang of CBS Sports takes a look at some big names returning to Indianapolis for medical re-checks, including Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill, Stanford tight end Coby Fleener and Alabama running back Trent Richardson.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell upheld the suspension on the Saints’ Bounty scandal despite head coach Sean Payton’s appeal.

Mike Silver of Yahoo Sports writes that filmmaker Sean Pamphilon says he did not violate a legal agreement with former New Orleans football player Steve Gleason by releasing an audio tape of former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ pregame locker room speech.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated says he’s conflicted on Pamphillin releasing the audio from Gregg Williams’ pre-game locker room speech, but ultimately believes he had a moral obligation to respect Gleason’s wishes and not release the audio tape.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/04/08/mmqb/1.html

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  1. Most years I have a player or two that I really want (last year was Locker or Carmimi or a couple of years ago where it was Oher or Moreno over Curry), but this year it’s pretty indifferent. I know I want a pass rusher first and foremost, but I’m not sold on any of them. At this point, I’m hoping for Mercilus, but mainly hope whoever we draft is good (which makes DeCastro so appealing, even though we don’t need him with respect to what we have there now vs. what we have/need at other positions).

  2. BObbyK–Im not hung up on any one player this year either. With plenty of good LB’s available in the second round (among other reasons), Im not excited about drafting Kuechly. I just desperately want us to get an impact player.

    Now, whether thats Coples, Ingram, Mercilus, Still, Poe, Floyd, DeCastro, Brockers, or anyone else; as long as they kick butt for us, I dont care who they take.

    I think a case could easily be made for all those guys. And if Seattle is so in love with Hightower, they can trade down for more than just a bag of chips like last year, since several really fine prospects will be available there.

    I think Floyd would be the most “fun” pick, and DeCastro would make the biggest initial impact. Over four years, hopefully all those players will be impact players for whoever is lucky enough to draft them.

    Plus, Coples, Floyd, Poe, Ingram, and DeCastro all have a good chance of going in the top 10, though I think Poe and DeCatro will fall at least a little outside the top 10.

  3. The Seahawks are on the clock till 6 PM PT.

    I just voted for David Decastro OG with the 12TH pick.

    http://www.gbnreport.com

  4. What about Fletcher Cox? I havent seen him play, but he’s beginning to look like he has a good shot of being the first DT taken, maybe even top 10, according to some draftniks (for what thats worth).

  5. HawkfaninMT says:

    I am with Bobby in that I am relatively indifferent to whom we select in the 1st. i could see an argument for: Floyd, Upshaw, Ingram, Decastro, Mercilus, Hightower, Fleener, Perry, Coples, Poe, Cox, Kuelchy…

    The 2 picks that I am really hoping to see is Bruce Irvin in the 3rd and Edwin Baker in the 7th.

  6. HawkfaninMT says:

    Personally I would like to see:
    1st- Michael Floyd
    2nd- Lavonte David
    3rd- Bruce Irvin
    4th- Marvin Jones
    6th- Sergio Kilemente
    7th- Edwin Baker

    I am sure it will be different tomorrow

  7. Macabrevity says:

    Evan Silva… a CB? Really? I’ve been preaching BPA as much as the next guy, but in doing so it doesn’t completely throw team needs out the window. And Gilmore doesn’t look like the BPA at #12 to me anyway. That said, stockpiling CB’s is a good idea, but not with the #12 pick, when we’re pretty solid at that position. I really think that guy has no clue about the Hawks roster whatsoever.

    I don’t like the Branch pick at #12, and don’t like Poe either. You guys talking about Cox, there’s a guy who is a force inside, and has the game productivity to prove it. We don’t need Poe unless we’re going to compete in strongman contests in the off-season.

    Not sold on Floyd either.

    If we go need, then I don’t see how we can pass on Mercilus if he’s there at #12, although from everything you guys here have been saying about Coples, I’m willing to stomach that pick. I wouldn’t mind Ingram, despite his alligator arms, he’s shown he can dominate against future NFL lineman.

    If we go BPA, then DeCastro seems to be the pick if available. Most seem to agree he’s a once-in-a-decade type player at his position, and only the fact that he’s a lowly guard makes him slip out of the top ten.

    Although I do really like Kuechly, LB seems to be a position that will be around in later rounds, so I’m starting to cool on the idea of drafting him at 12, although will be happy with the pick if we do.

    Funny thing about Rob Rang’s chat here, he gave convincing arguments as to why we won’t draft Kuechly, but has us taking him in his mock draft. He also said we don’t need to draft a guard when we have the best O-line coach in the league… not sure I follow that logic.

  8. Is there anyway for the Seahawks to draft Nick Reed with their first round pick?

    You can never give up enough for a player of Nick Reed’s caliber.

  9. “He also said we don’t need to draft a guard when we have the best O-line coach in the league… not sure I follow that logic.”

    I think Rang was referring to Cable’s ability to coach up lesser talent.

    There may be some complaining if we do take De Castro, initially…until we see him in action on the field.

  10. Dukeshire says:

    I just don’t see Seattle’s o line as a need worthy of a first round pick, again this season. Moreover pabuwal’s point about guards, of all positions on the line, being taken as early as Seattle is selecting, is well said. DeCastro just doesn’t make any sense to me.

  11. Fletcher Cox is the best interior pass rusher available. If he is available at 12, I would not be surprised if the Seahawks take him.

    Like Bobby, my preference is for Mercilus. Unfortunately, I have this feeling that he won’t be seen as good value at 12 and so they will let someone else get him abit lower in the first round.

    I think if we select at 12 we get Kuelchy or DeCastro, maybe Floyd. I think they are terrific players, but would prefer a pass rusher like Mercilus.

  12. And I hope we pass on Coples, Ingram and Upshaw.

  13. HawkfaninMT says:

    I would understand the Decastro pick… I wouldn’t love it, but I wouldn’t hate it it either. There is an argument to be made for and against just about any player available to the hawks @ 12

  14. HawkfaninMT says:

    @blocis: One of the only things I can almost guarantee you is that PC/JS will not pass on mercilus just because outiders will percieve it as a reach. They are like the honeybadger. They don’t give a ….

  15. And last…… I wish we would sign a FA linebacker or two (Leroy Hill, and/or EJ Henderson) before the draft. We can cut them after the draft if we like, but I hate going into the draft with such a glaring need.

  16. JazBadAzz says:

    Fletcher Cox is an excellent pick.
    I like Coples, Ingram, Upshaw, Hightower, and Richardson! The hell with the rest at 12. It’ll be hard to mess this pick up with the depth and our needs.

    Evan Silva got a point, that kid is the real deal!

    Doug Baldwin is having a blast with T.Jack and Flying Flynn, they’re are somewhere working out. I would qoute the tweet but can’t from my mobil. Both looks good!

  17. @HawkfaninMT……. you may be right. I remember last years draft, every pick was a WTF moment. After every pick I would have to scour the internet to find out who the hell we just picked, because I had never heard of them before.

  18. JazBadAzz says:

    I watched every game Illinois played for the last 10+ yrs. Mercilus benefited greatly from the scheme and not his natural ability. 12 is too high. He is good but not 12 good! They ran some pretty damn good blitzes and stunts. All I’m saying is becareful what you guys wish for!

  19. SaigonSun says:

    My vote is for Decastro @ #12 if he’s there. If no Decastro,then I hope to slide down and get more picks. That is it .The rest of the picks can be defensive players if must.
    PS I just saw something on ESPN about Matt Barkley from USC. Very,very impressive player.

  20. Macabrevity says:

    Yeah, I get that – coaching up lesser talent makes sense, but the possibility of having a dominant right side, reminiscent of the 2005 Hawks, versus having a serviceable-to-good O-line makes me just giddy.

    I don’t really care about the history of guards in terms of where they’re picked and if that translated into playoff wins or not. Decastro is valued where he’s valued, and if we want him, it’ll take the 12th pick to get him. In my mind he gives us more of an edge than some of the other names mentioned. I also would love to see Marshawn get some handoffs without having tacklers draped all over him… and I can’t emphasize enough what a dominant LG will do for Okung.

  21. See? Thats what I am talking about – someone in the Seahawk draft room will say that 12 is too high for Mercilus. If its my pick, thats where it would go.

    Hey JazBadAzz…… your not suggesting Hightower at 12? He makes more sense at 43?

  22. SaigonSun says:

    I understan Cable is so great as a coach ,that he can make me to be an offensive lineman; but, who is going to guarantee Cable will be with ‘Hawks in two-or more years from now. That is mostly why I want Decastro.

  23. JazBadAzz says:

    Not exactly blocis, I don’t see him as good now than he will be in 2yrs. Unfortunatley some people don’t give players time to develope into studs, and I think he will be two yrs from now.

    Its a shame what I read about James Carpenter sometime.

    My personal pick would be Coples or Ingram at 12. They will produce from day one. But if not used correctly they will become targets for the people that didn’t like them and label them bust.

  24. What’s wrong with Decastro at #12 and Shea McClellin or Zach Brown at #43?

  25. JazBadAzz says:

    Osbrey- Decastro would be fine if I wasn’t screaming at the top of my lungs for a little bit of pressure on thrid and long! In the meantime Clemens is being double and triple team and no one else gets close! 10 seconds later the defense gives up a 15 yard pass for a first down!

    Zach Brown would be ok if he doesn’t have to play every down, he avoids a lot of contact, but he has excellent spd. I think he would be injured often.

    I don’t know much about Shea, but I do love Acho from Texas, great all around backer with some special pass rushing/blitzing ability. Really good in coverage aswell.

  26. It’s going to be the LB,or the DE/LB from Alaba at 12.Then at 22 they are going to trade up to get that TE from stanford Cody Fleece (not sure on the spelling)

  27. Sirius NFL radio just said Trufant signed with the Seahawks.

  28. I hope Hill is next!

  29. The funny thing about last years draft was everyone was SOOOOO excited about picking Legree – and he didn’t even make the team

  30. GeorgiaHawk says:

    xcman- I Legree with that!

  31. Over all draft question for people –

    1. Will Cleveland and Miami pass on Tannehill in the first round?

    2. If they do – will he fall all the way out of the first or will someone trade up to get him?

  32. HawkfaninMT says:

    @Xcman: I would say IF both pass in the top 10, and he is still around at 22, Cleveland will take him there

  33. One thing I know for sure PC and JS have their own ideas of who they want and who they are going to draft. I think they have proven that and most likely they will draft someone most of us have not even mentioned. I do hope they trade down so we can have more picks but again I’m not sure if that will even happen.

  34. grottowes says:

    trade down and then draft Fleener

  35. Hawkfan – I think I tend to agree with that – forgot about the 22 pick.

    I am curious to see who throws the pick for Weden – I think he can play, but age will be a concern – but I don’t think he will last that long on day 2.

  36. Nighthawk3 says:

    Using a different computer and forgot what my password was and what email addresss I used. So had to re-register. Bummer.

    I think any pick other than DeCastro or Kuechley is a total waste of this pick. We need a left guard, we need a middle linebacker. They are the best at those positions. DE is not a high priority need, it can wait until the 2nd round.

    Bobby, I don’t know how you can say that about DeCastro. Our guards suck. Other than MLB now that Hawthorne went to New Orleans, there is no bigger need.

    In my view, Ingram is not a 4-3 defensive end, he’s a rush linebacker in a 3-4. I also don’t think Coples or Perry are rush linebackers in a 3-4, they are an end in a 4-3. Goodman? In the 1st round? Someone’s on crack. Poe is the most overrated player in this draft. He should not be taken before the bottom third of the 1st round, if then. Stpehon Gilmore at 12? He’s on the same crack the guy who said Goodman is smoking. Ronnell Lewis is going to be a better 3-4 rush linebacker than a 4-3 outside linebacker in the NFL.

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