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It’s official: Manning, Colts say goodbye

Post by Eric Williams on March 7, 2012 at 9:52 am with 31 Comments »
March 7, 2012 9:52 am
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay, right, announces that the NFL football team will release quarterback Peyton Manning, left, during a news conference in Indianapolis, Wednesday, March 7, 2012. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

In a joint press conference this afternoon attended by Peyton Manning and Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay, the Colts announced the termination of their star quarterback’s contract, making Manning a free agent with the ability to sign with any team.

“It’s an incredible blessing,” Irsay said. “As difficult as this day is, it’s made difficult because of the greatness and the things Peyton has done for our city, for our state, for our franchise. There will be no other Peyton Manning.”

Irsay said that Manning’s No. 18 jersey will be retired.

“Our circumstances make it best for us to take this next step,” Manning said. “It certainly has not been easy for me.”

The Colts are releasing Manning after 14 years because he was due a $28 million roster bonus after missing the entire 2011 season due to season-ending neck surgery a week before the beginning of the regular season.

With the No. 1 overall pick in this year’s draft, the Colts are expected to draft Manning’s successor, Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.

Manning said he will not retire, but does not know what the next step will be for him.

“I am confident,” Manning said about his recovery. “I’m throwing it pretty well. I’ve still got some work to do, I’ve got some progress to make, but I’ve come a long way.

“I’ve really worked hard. I can’t tell you the hours and the time I’ve put into working hard. I really enjoy being back out there.”

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  1. maddog12 says:

    Eric- Have you heard if the Hawks are interested in Manning? Is PC around the VMAC or has he and the plane suddenly disappeared? Manning has to have a process he has in mind and criteria he is looking at. An almost there team, a dome, coach that will let him be who he is play wise.

    Personally I’d like to know whether to spend brain cells dreaming about Manning to Hawks or let it go? I’d definitely want him over Flynn.

  2. Dukeshire says:

    “I’m throwing it pretty well. I’ve still got some work to do, I’ve got some progress to make, but I’ve come a long way.”

    Not exactly a ringing self-endorsement. There is definitely a leap of faith regarding his health, for any team that signs him.

  3. If winning the Super Bowl is Manning’s #1 priority for the upcoming season then the team that stands out based on last year’s performance is….

    San Francisco. Good OL, good running game, awesome TE, decent receivers, great defense, mild weather, BUT very piss poor fans (nowhere near our level)!!!

    Assuming he is healthy this would be a nightmare scenario. Based on the fact that A. Smith has yet to be re-signed even though he is “Harbaugh’s guy” might lead one to believe that the SF brass is leaving their options open and holding their cards tight. San Fran has a similar cap situation to us. Possibility #476 for P. Manning.

  4. maddog12 says:

    Agree you’d have to have the physical issues reviewed.

  5. I forgot to mention that I don’t believe he will be healthy for a full season and have always rooted against him. So there!

  6. RDPoulsbo says:

    I’m still dubious about his health, but I keep harping on scheme because even the media are completely disregarding it’s importance. Whenever you hear a coach talking about bringing players with the right fit, it almost always has to do with the scheme they run.

    Manning has run primarily a Coryell offense. That’s what he’ll be most comfortable with and the most likely system that will allow him to continue to succeed. If anything, offensive control will probably be the most important factor for him and that will need to be done with a smooth adjustment with the coaching staff.

    Flynn is a WCO guy. I’d like Seattle to get him, but I’m in no way going to pretend he’s not a system guy. Both Flynn and Manning play in different types of systems, which is why I don’t see much overlap in teams looking at these QBs.

  7. “I’m throwing it pretty well.”

    “Pretty well” coming from Peyton Manning sounds encouraging to me.

  8. maddog12 says:

    San Fran supposedly has an offer on the table to Alex Smith. If I was him I would hurry up and sign it if it is close to my price.

  9. Can teams now sign Manning, or do they have to wait until next week?

  10. Dukeshire says:

    RDPoulsbo – I too have hit on the scheme issue several times, but people seriously underestimate just how significant an issue that is. Not that he cannot adapt to Bevell’s, or Bevell allow Manning to essentially take over, but there will be a major adaptation from one end. And that adjustment will take a lot of work and time to take hold.

  11. piperfeltcher says:

    I do not think the scheme will be a issue with Manning at all. If he is healthy he can make all the throws and has proven to be a master at reading defences and making calls at the line so I see no reason why he could not run a west coast offence. The key thing with a westcoast offence is making the read at the line and getting the ball out quickly and I have seen Manning throw a lot of quick slants over the years so I view the scheme as a nonissue.Also it sounds as if his neck injury has healed and he would be able to take a hit it is just a matter of building up his arm strength.

  12. Dukeshire says:

    piperfeltcher – Well, there’s far more to it than that. He’s coming from an offense that used 3 personnel groupings in their base offense. Think of that. All the plays they ran basically came from those 3 sets. Seattle uses a different personnel grouping for nearly every down and distance, so there is the matter of learning those formations and the concepts behind all those sets. That is a huge adjustment, one that will take time regardless how much of a student of the game he is. In addition, we’re also talking about the major difference in the route and passing concepts Seattle’s WCO employs vs. Manning’s Colts.

    Yes, reading defenses will not change. But understanding audibles and protection adjustments based on what he sees, in an entirely new offense and with more personnel groupings than he has ever used, is not simple. It’s very complex.

  13. RDPoulsbo says:

    While Indy’s scheme was primarily Coryell, it also borrows from the last remnants of the Run and Shoot. As in, if the CB lines up close, run a deep route, if he shades in, you’re running an out route etc. The entire scheme is built around read and react. To get the most favorable matchup. The WCO couldn’t be anymore different. The philosophy is it doesn’t matter how the defense lines up, the offense is going to beat it through timing, precision and accuracy. Given Manning’s nerve issues with his throwing hand, that precision and accuracy part is a big concern. Coryell allows him some leeway with accuracy in favor of matchup and that’s why he’d be far better off going to a team that has the personnel for that system.

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    So complex Dukeshire that you would rather have Jackson running the system this year than Peyton Manning learning it on the fly?

    If the Seahawks do sign him ( and I doubt if they can), then get the hell out of his way( that means you Bevell ), and let him do his thing!

  15. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – No where have I ever said nor implied that. I was simply helping clarify the notion that all Manning has to do is regain his arm strength, and the rest takes care of it’s self.

    RD – That’s exactly right, and just what I was referring to by the differences in passing and route concepts.

  16. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dukeshire- I didn’t say or imply that you did, however you have been clear up to this point ( regardless of Mannings injury ), that he would or may not be a good fit for this team.

    I think he would be a great fit for this team.
    It’s Just a difference of opinion between us.

  17. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – The question itself implies I’d prefer Jackson over Manning. But more to the point, what I have been clear about is that Manning would not be a natural fit for this offense. If Seattle did not adjust it’s scheme, and maintained it’s WC principles, the adjustment would be significant. If we’re talking about just dropping a QB into this offense, Flynn is the better fit. Perhaps not the better player, over time. But from concepts, verbage, and personnel groupings, Flynn, right now, is FAR mor familiar.

  18. Soggybuc says:

    If they kick the tires around ad have in for a visit i’m sure of that will involve Pete, Bevell and Peyton sitting in a room going over schemes concepts etc. if those 3 very smart football think it’ll work I’ll not question it.

  19. shut it tards

  20. My last comment was in error!

  21. Not meant to send! Please forgive!

  22. I’d have to imagine any team that signs Manning will have agreed to change the offense to the system he wants to run. Not that Manning isn’t capable of changing, but why would he in the twilight of his career?

  23. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Seems to me that a QB and leader of Manning’s caliber could learn/adapt to almost any offensive scheme. And if he is a good fit overall, I find it hard to believe that Bevell/Carrol would be unyielding to a player of Manning’s capabilities. I seriously hope The FO takes a long hard look at Manning and invites to the headquarters, as opposed to the “kick the tires” approach. I actually believe Seattle is a better fit than the “experts” in the media say. The world may be shocked, but I will not be when Manning signs with Seattle.

  24. piperfeltcher says:

    Yes he would need to learn the playbook and formations but that goes for any QB comming into a new team. I think a great QB can play in any system. I watched Warren Moon go from the CFL with 12 players on the field to the NFL running a run and shoot offence and he did not miss a beat.I doubt Manning would struggle with learning personal groupings or protection schemes.

  25. piperfeltcher says:

    I find it hard to believe that Manning would have to much trouble adapting to running more personal packages. I watched Warren Moon go from the CFL with 12 men on the field to running a run and shoot offence. I think great players can play in any system and if healthy Manning is a great player. The throws are the same in any system if you can throw a acurate slant or deep ball in one offence you can throw it in any offence. Plus I am sure the Hawks would adapt there offence to suit what Manning does well.

  26. piperfeltcher says:

    Sorry about double post was having trouble getting it to post so retyped it.

  27. RDPoulsbo says:

    piperfeltcher, are you suggesting that Manning change everything that has made him a future HoFer? That’s much easier said than done.

    I refer to this as the Madden Mentality among a fans. In a video game, you can trade guys and they play as expected with no adjustment necessary. Not so much in real life. If he had more than a couple years left in him, sure, I could him coming in and eventually playing at a high level, but not at this stage of his career.

  28. Dukeshire says:

    And that leads to another issue: he’d be a glorified “rental” again. At his stage of his career, he doesn’t provide any long term stability at the position.

  29. piperfeltcher says:

    Yes he is a rental but the kind of rental that can come in and give a team that is close a shot at the SB and at this point I do not care if it is a 12 year old girl that leads us to a SB I just want to see Seattle win one in my lifetime.
    I think a good QB can play in any system and do not think that is a madden mentality. Kurt Warner went from the arena league to winning the SB in 1 year in a completly diferent system. He released the ball quickly and was accurate so they adapted the system to fit his strengths same as Seattle would do with Manning.

  30. The best things for the future of the Seahawks would be for Manning to flunk his physical or go to a team like Miami.

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