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Hawthorne, Sherman limited

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 29, 2011 at 4:04 pm with 28 Comments »
November 29, 2011 4:04 pm

The Seattle Seahawks practiced outside today without helmets for about two hours.

Receiver Sidney Rice (concussion) and cornerback Byron Maxwell (illness) did not practice.

I forgot to mention in the previous post that Seattle head coach Pete Carroll told us that Maxwell had pneumonia the past couple weeks, but is getting better.

Linebacker David Hawthorne (knee) and cornerback Richard Sherman (calf) were limited participants. And quarterback Tarvaris Jackson (pectoral) and defensive tackle Alan Branch (ankle) were full participants.

Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell talked about Mike Williams not having the same productivity he had last year, and how he can overcome that.

“I think the biggest thing is being able to practice,” Bevell said. “Practice full-speed, practice hard and getting on the same page as the quarterback.

“Then he’s had opportunities in the game. In the last game, he had some pretty good opportunities to make plays, and unfortunately we didn’t make those plays. That’s really what you’re judged on – all of us are. Whatever happens out here at practice, but when you put it on the field and put it on tape, that’s what we’re ultimately judged on.”

For the Eagles, offensive tackle King Dunlap (concussion), linebacker Moise Fokou (ankle), receiver Jeremy Maclin (hamstring/shoulder) and quarterback Michael Vick (ribs) did not practice.

Running back LeSean McCoy (toe), cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (ankle) and cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (knee) were limited. And defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins (thumb) were full participants.

Notes from practice
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  1. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Sounds like Carroll is calling out Mike Williams. Good thing, he needs it! Let’s see now how he responds to it Thursday!

  2. You mean Bevell?

  3. Safe For Now – Pete Carroll, Seahawks

    To say that the Seahawks have had their ups and downs this season does not quite do justice to the inconsistencies this team has had on the field.

    Seattle’s 27th ranked rushing attack has rarely looked the same from week to week, and Tarvaris Jackson (seven touchdowns, 11 interceptions and a 73.1 quarterback rating) is obviously not the long-term solution at quarterback. Injuries have only made things more difficult for Carroll in his second season.

    However, it seems that the Seahawks are finally starting to come together. They followed up last week’s big win over the Ravens with a dominating 24-7 win over NFC West rival St. Louis.

    Seattle will not be catching up to the division-leading 49ers this season and the playoffs are all but out of the question, but it is now beginning to look like Carroll is indeed laying a solid foundation for the future. The Seahawks are well-built along the offensive and defensive lines, and have been getting good production out of a defensive unit that ranks 11th in terms of yardage.

    Expect Carroll to make a move for a true franchise quarterback this offseason, either in free agency or through the draft. A lack of solid quarterback play has been Seattle’s biggest weakness this season, and if they can find an answer under center, the Seahawks could find themselves right back in the playoff discussion in 2012.

  4. bird_spit says:

    RaDEon – no credit given?

  5. I wonder how much Carroll/Schneider will be willing to give up (if anything) to move up and take Barkley in the draft? I’m assuming we’ll pick somewhere from 12-18, and that Barkley goes in the top 3-4 picks.

  6. GeorgiaHawk says:

    RADEoN- My bad! Your right Bevell!

  7. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I say pdway that we give up Two first round picks, C.W., Tate, and a boat load of cash!

  8. The Rams might be drafting at the No. 2 spot. Would you give them the Seahawks’ picks in the first three rounds for a chance to draft Barkley?

  9. Dukeshire says:

    Someone here might, but Schneider won’t and neither will Carroll. This team is still much further away than simply a QB. Granted, that is the most glaring need among the starting players, but there are so many more holes to fill than to spend draft picks like a drunken sailor. They need a QB to build around clearly, but I can’t see them looting this or future drafts to get that prospect, regardless how touted that player might be.

    Eric – Thanks for the Maxwell update. I’ve been meaning to ask about him myself but keep forgeting. I’ve wondered why we haven’t seen more of him.

  10. I’d do it for Luck but nobody else.

  11. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Ablolutely Canfan! A first, second , and third round pick is a no-brainer for a prospect like Barkley!

    Carroll and Schneider would jump at the chance for that to happen! Unfortunately it will take much more than that to get him!

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Basically all we would be giving up is a second and third round pick after swapping first round picks!

    Hell, we almost gave up that much for C.W.!

    Pete Carroll would be creaming his jeans if that offer was presented to him!

    And how much did the Raiders give to the Bengals for Palmer?

    Barkley,(imo), will be better than Palmer!

  13. GeorgiaHawk says:

    And Luck would cost three times that much.Imo.

  14. I suppose it will all be determined by how/where we finish. Right now, only Indy, Minn, StL, Carolina and Miami have worse records. I assume Minnesota, Carolina and StL, don’t want QB’s that high.

    We know that Miami and Washington (same record as us now) both want QB’s as much as we do, so if records end up similar, it may come down to who is willing to give up more to move up.

  15. “This team is still much further away than simply a QB.”

    Is it? Yes, we need help at DE, and more help on the O-line, but when I look around I see a solid secondary, solid LB’s and D-line (we do need a pass rusher), an O-line on which we’ve expended a lot of picks who need time to develop and cohere, and really a decent set of skill players with Lynch, Miller, Rice, Baldwin. Seems to me that a high level QB is what is missing to get us back to playoff contention.

  16. Soggybuc says:

    Rams might be more willing to deal than ya think, they are farther away from a top 5 pick than the hawks are and after Spags is fired the new staff might be very open to grabbing a ton of extra picks over the next few years. ( think Jimmy Johnson and the Herchele trade though not that lopsided).
    Maybe swap firsts and a third this year with the right mix of midround picks for 2 years could get it done, that and Golden as trade fluffing. Baldwin has made his importance a minor issue at this point and the Rams receivers are very lack lack luster.

  17. Soggybuc says:

    I meant top 5 pick from being a solid contender.

  18. Yeah, the Rams would probably be willing to deal, but they might prefer to get Washington’s first round pick. Let’s hope Shanahan isn’t sold on Barkley.

    Funny thing is, just a week ago, I thought the Seahawks didn’t need to trade up to get a QB. But the way TJ played in the fourth quarter really changed things for me. Perhaps I should re-watch the Ravens game, in which he made a couple of great throws. I hope he surprises me again on Thursday.

  19. The problem with Jackson now is that he is so limited that he just won’t be able to do anything to help this team win games. Jackson needed to win enough games that the team could not take a franchise quarterback because of draft position.

    If they are in position to take a franchise guy they will. Jackson is in the unfortunate position that he only had this one chance to be a starter and there are no second chances for him. It was fortunate he got hurt when he did or things could have turned out differently.

  20. That should say that it was UNfortunate that he got hurt when he did.

  21. Dukeshire says:

    pdway – I think so. You mention two obvious needs at starter but also depth at RB, interior d-line and LB. And that’s the bare minimum. But to be more specific, that sentence was in context of giving their picks in each of the first 3 rounds of the upcoming draft for a shot at Barkley. That’s not going to happen so long as Schneider is here. It would be a complete reversal of his entire philosophy, as I see it.

    Jackson appears to be getting healthier (as evidence his ability to practice more throughout the week, these past weeks) so I’m curious why he’s viewed as more of a liability now than say, a month ago?

  22. Jackson only appears he can make a handful of really high end throws a game at this point. I had zero faith in the offenses ability to pick up even one first down on the final 2 drives of the game.

  23. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Our luck with injuries on the o-line the past few years is beyond belief! Imo.
    Apparently we may have to draft one or two every year just to keep up with this injury plague!

  24. Dukeshire says:

    In fairness, o line is a position teams always seems to draft regardles of specific situation, so there’s a good chance that will happen anyway. And fortunately theirb situation there is so much better than it was back in ’07 / ’08, thank god.

    pab – Perhaps. Although what % of faith did you have in Jackson’s ability to pick up a first or make really “high end throws” prior to his injury…?

  25. confucious says:

    Jackson was a mystery coming in to the season as he had never held the position for a full season before. It is difficult to judge a body of work with a negligible rushing proficiency and green offensive line. That said, consistency and field vision seem to be problems for Jackson in games where the oline and running game are working. At the start of the season I was one who wanted to fairly evaluate Jacksons performance as a potential franchise Qb. It seems obvious to me now that this team needs to look in a different direction. This will be a good year to do so considering the deep quarterback class.

  26. There is a very small sample size before Jackson’s injury, but during the second half of the Falcons and Giants game, I felt the Seahawks offense was unstoppable. They also moved well between the 20s in his next few games back after the injury but the Rams and Redskins games were just anemic. His velocity looks like Hasselbeck at this point and he has nowhere near Hasselbeck’s read and recognition abilities to compensate.

    I’m starting him in FF this week so either he is lost for the season or he looks great.

  27. Dukeshire says:

    “Unstoppable”? Lol. Wow. It’s always interesting to me how two people can see the same game so differently. I haven’t felt Seattle’s offense was unstoppable for the better part of 7 seasons.

  28. Pabs is smoking something weird if he thinks we were “unstoppable.” I’ve never seen an unstoppable offense that had a bad QB and no run game. LMFAO.

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