As expected, Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll said offensive guard Robert Gallery and receiver Sidney Rice are unlikely to play on Sunday in his team’s season opener at San Francisco.
Both players are listed as doubtful on the team’s injury report.
“We’ll always leave it as doubtful, because there’s a chance when he wakes up, but most likely he’s not going to make it,” Carroll said about Gallery, who did not practice for a fourth straight day this afternoon.
So Seattle’s likely starting five across the offensive line will be Russell Okung at left tackle, rookie James Carpenter at left guard, Max Unger at center, John Moffitt at right guard and Breno Giacomini at right tackle.
“The way we practiced is the way it’s looking,” Carroll said, when asked about Giacomini starting at right tackle. “I just want to hold out until we get to game time to make sure we use every day possible to figure it out.”
Rice did some route running and individual drills early in practice with trainers to test his shoulder, but Carroll seemed to be leaning on giving his shoulder another week of rest.
“He ran around and caught balls and all that stuff,” Carroll said. “But we need to protect him and take care of him, so likely he won’t go.”
Carroll was then asked if he thought Rice’s shoulder could be more serious than expected, similar to what John Carlson went through in training camp. Carlson eventually needed shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum. But Carroll said he believes Rice’s case is different, and that his shoulder is getting better.
“This doesn’t seem to be the same thing,” Carroll said. “But if we don’t get him out here this week, probably by the end of next week we’ll know if he’s really responding. It feels way better. He’s able to do a lot of things and run full speed.”
Defensive end Chris Clemons did not practice for a second straight day after tweaking his ankle in the team’s walk-through on Thursday, but Carroll said that he expects the Georgia product to play on Sunday. He’s listed as probable.
Carroll said middle linebacker David Hawthorne (knee) is ready to go, after he made it through another practice. However, there’s no guarantee that Hawthorne will start on Sunday, as rooke K.J. Wright has gotten most of the work with the first unit. Hawthorne is listed as probable.
Rookie offensive tackle Jarriel King did not practice because of an ankle injury and is listed on the injury report as out.
Okung is ready to play in his first game after suffering a sprained ankle in Seattle’s first exhibition game against San Diego. Carroll said that Okung had a good week of practice, and he’s looking forward to seeing him back out on the field.
“As far as the mental side of it, he’s ready to go,” Carroll said. “We’ve tried to work him real hard, and give him extra work. He’s worked against the first group a bunch in pass protection and stuff like that, just to make sure he’s up to game speed. So we’ve got him as ready as we can. But he still has to get into the game. He’s going to have to feel his way a little bit, and hopefully he’ll get comfortable quickly.”
It’d be nice if Okung could calm some fears and start 16 games this season.
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I’m still trying to get a mental image of someone getting hurt in a walk-through. Cripes!
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Well, I’m a realest, so this is how it is; T. Joke is not that good of a QB, but he can scrabble and might make it to the bye week. Our OL is also very questionable which may make the QB situation understandable letting T. Joke run around while the OL is tryin’ to figure it out. Once they do, T. Joke will either get injured by then or really beat down, which will lead to the CW experiment. No matter what happens, it’s looking to be a 7 win season at best, but probably worst. This is my opinion based on what I have seen during preseason, our personal, and the injury situation. Please note that before we signed Gallery, I commented how my co-worker wasn’t sold on him (Oak fan) because he was injury prone. On the flip side, Carp may be a beast on the left side w/ Okung (if he can stay on the feild) and may stay there. If it works out, we can find a RT somewhere else down the road. Go Hawks.
P.S. I hope that my observations, thoughts, and gut feeling all come back to haunt me when the Hawks get a playoff birth.
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It is time for Breno Giacomini and Ben Obomanu to step up this weekend and show they are the quality starters I know they can be.
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One last thing, everyone is clownin’ or standin’ up for T.Joke, but what about the OL, that is what will make or break us. The combination of the two is somethin’ of a nightmare. I’m glad Hass is gone, maybe Pete and Schneider saw this coming and did him a favor, then grabbed the sucker that they thought could last the longest until the OL started to get it together. Why would they want the QB of the future getting murdered right away?
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Trublu,to say your a realest what you are saying is a bunch of bull.Pete and JS are trying to win.C’mon dude.If Tjack just has a great game and doesn’t get sacked I would sure like to hear the next statement by the “realest”
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I don’t care one way or another for TJack. He can do great or he can stink. He’s not the long term solution here. Neither is CW. I fully expect by the end of the season they will have both started several games.
If Carp takes off at LG and Ben holds down the fort at RT then we have a solid young line for some time. That is the area I’m focusing on.
Rice scares me. We have too much history with mistakes made at WR (Housh, Branch…). I’m hoping this is just a temporary setback and we aren’t seeing the beginning of a long and painful march to IR in a few weeks.
The Rice situation reminds me of a joke I learned as a kid:
( A guy has a prized cat that he loves more than anything. He leaves his cat with his brother when he has to go out of town on business. A couple of days later he calls home and asks his brother how the cat is. His brother tells him the cat died.
Obviously upset the man tells his brother that you don’t just come out and say that when you know how much he loved his cat. His brother asks what was he supposed to say? The man says “well the first time I call you say the cat is on the roof. The next day you tell me that the fire department came and tried to help get the cat down but the cat jumped out of the firefighter’s hands and fell. The next day you say that the vets did everything they could but the cat couldn’t be saved…” His brother responds “Ok, I get it now…”
After a pause the man asks “So, how’s mom doing? To which his brother replies “Mom’s on the roof…” )
Let’s hope that Rice isn’t “On the roof…” from a season standpoint.
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Wow. Just wow. Not that this game is important, but oh wait….it is. So in turn, we hold out Rice and from the sounds of it, Hawthorne. Makes so much sense. Basically Carroll told us that Rice could go, but instead of increasing our chances of winning, we will hold him out so he can play against the Steelers and get worked! Tons of sense with this front office.
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2012
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Carroll’s words kinda seam like he is tempering expectations for the first game (not sounding confident in there chances to win?)
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If Heater’s healthy there is no chance Wright starts ahead of him on Sunday.
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Man I hope Mike Williams can step it up and be a true #1 receiver on Sunday…
Really excited to see this line play, though.
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Seahawks2620 and williambryan,
I dont think Pete is concerned about this game in particular. I think he is being careful with Rice because waiting an extra week or two will give Rice the ability to be fully healed. If he goes out and plays this week he may be knocked out for the season. Hawthorne will probably play some but he wont be up to speed us much as KJ Wright when it comes to the game plan etc.
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Hi, Its Pete and John. We love looking for weird players that nobody else wants to draft and injury prone athletes
Sidney Rice
Robert Gallery
Hankerson( guy from New Orleans who had like 100 surgeries before we signed him)
Pinkard(thank god after 3 ACLs they cut this bum)
Thurmond( either another ACL or ankle by week 3)
Tate( I’m better than Colt McCoy, right)
Carpenter( I’m a little smarter than Tarvaris, we both from south)
Okung( I need new ankles)
Legree( I’m the new Ryan Clark, wrong,…what a horrible whiff)
And over 200 moves to keep finding the right guys. Here is some advice, draft good, solid, for sure players, and pick up savvy vets like Clemons and Brock. The youth movement is cute but your on thin ice Pete. You better not do worse than last year. Your top 5 amongst coaches pay. Chill out on the college theme crap too. Turn into a profressional head coach. This roster is disgusting.
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I really wonder about all these supposed Tarvaris Jackson EXPERTS expounding on how unbelievably historically terrible Jackson supposedly is. Are you guys NFL scouts watching coaches film every day? LOL!!! No, you’re not.
Funny thing is, the actual professionals who DO watch coaches film every day decided to pay Tarvaris $4M a year. Do you think just MAYBE they know some things you don’t know after watching a few games through your TV?
Look back at Tarvaris Jackson’s first three years. Now think back to Matt Hasselbeck through his first three years. Tavaris was better. Hands-down better. More athletic, more accurate than Hasselbeck, more poise in the pocket. Hass threw more INTs than TDs in his third year (his first as a starter), meanwhile, Tarvaris threw 9 TDs and 2 INTs in his third year. A big difference is that Hass, even though he was struggling, was allowed to keep starting until he developed. Tavaris rotted on a bench for two years.
Coach Holmgren saw something in Hasselbeck that fans could not see. Fans told Holmy he was wrong. It took a few more years, but Holmgren was right about Hasselbeck being worth his time to develop.
Coach Carroll sees something in Tarvaris Jackson. Say he’s wrong all you want, go ahead and say you know more about QBs than Pete Carroll does, but until Carroll has a year or so to develop this player, you’re just talking.
Coach Carroll sees something worth developing in Tarvaris Jackson. That’s all I need to know to stay interested in watching to see what happens. After all, waiting a while for Hass to develop was well worth the wait.
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Anyone have any predictions for Sunday? (Other than T-jack ending up on the roof with his buddy Rice.)
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My prediction would be that the only thing harder to predict next Sunday than the Seahawks performance would be trying to predict the 49ers performance.
I’ll say both teams will have some difficulties with every unit on the field, except for the 49ers front-7, who should be pretty solid. That might be enough to give the 9ers a big advantage.
I would feel better about our defense with Heater in. Without him, I’m concerned that both KJ Wright and Alan Branch could be exposed and Frank Gore might get a lot of first downs.
Obviously Tavaris, the O line, and the WRs are not going to look ready to go yet. We could end up with more FGs than TDs.
49ers 20 – Seahawks 16
Scratch that. Give me just one monster Marshawn Lynch TD run, and make it
49ers 20 – Seahawks 23
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Stevos, as posted today on http://www.startcharlie.com. You’ll enjoy this.
Top 10 reasons Charlie should start:
1. Tarvaris Jackson designed Maryland’s new football uniforms.
2. When Whitehurst goes to Bangkok hookers pay him for sex.
3. Charlie Whitehurst is so accurate he turned down the sniper gig for SEAL Team 6
4. God’s personal cologne is made from Whitehurst’s tears.
5. Charlie punts a tighter spiral than Tarvaris throws.
6. North Vietnamese fighters were so lethal they named them after Charlie.
7. Tarvaris sounds a little too close to tortoise.
8. Tarvaris Jackson told Lebron that Cleveland was “Gay”.
9. Tarvaris Jackson has incriminating pictures of O.C. Darell Bevell with a goat.
10. Isn’t a Tarvaris a car? Who wants a QB named after a lousy Ford sedan.
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I see some wisdom in holding rice and heater out. if this was late in the season and we are fighting for a playoff spot they both would go. but it’s game one versus a team when can beat with out them and give those 2 another week to heal.
Obo and BMW can do fine against this secondary. against Pittsburgh we will need Rice.
SF offense is shakey at this point and KJ can get valuable game time that will help if he needs to play later in the year so bring heater back in game 2 when we face a formidable offense.
KJ saw some game time during the pre season sure but if you think even first offenses are going true full speed your delusional. so he gets to VD at full game speed this week and that will be an eye opener for him.
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LOL, number 1 and 5 were the best.
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Thanks HawkyHann! Now I understand!
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“Carpenter( I’m a little smarter than Tarvaris, we both from south)”
That’s really an Intelligent thing to post HawkyHann. I’m sure that Carroll will want to steer clear of signing players from the south from here on out now that you have made this known. I mean why would Carroll even think of looking in the south for football players? Wouldn’t it be a travesty if he signed another Walter Jones or Peyton Manning?
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I predict that the seahawks will win this game because the 49ers will be less prepared for this game. New coach/lockout will effect them early on, so it’s a good time for the Seahawks to take advantage of it.
I also predict that Carp will be more comfortable at LG, and this will be the beginning of what will be a very good left side for many years. And that will make alot of fans happy! Especially BobbyK.
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Stevos – you realize that football experts who are smarter than the average fan have done things like draft busts and made bad free agent signings, right? Or is Aaron Curry a superstar because someone who got paid to make the pick is the one who made it? If you want to say Ruskell got fired, then let me ask about Bill Belichik drafting Lawrence Maroney with a 1st round pick? That must have been a good pick, right, b/c a person who got paid to make the pick made it? And you do realize that Tarvaris had those supposedly great stats with superior surrounding talent? Or does surrounding talent have no effect on anything? You’re also saying that Rick Spielman is stupid, correct (he’s the guy who is paid by the Vikings to make their personnel decisions) and that everything Pete Carroll does gets a free pass but a guy like Spielman must be stoopid?
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Another foolish reason to compare Matt/Tarvaris’ stats is that Jackson basically faced defenses who always had 8 in the box but when you want stats to lie it’s easy to conveniently not take those things into account.
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Agree 100% BobbyK! Not that I don’t want Jackson to do well, however until he consistently leads this team he will deservedly so be open to criticism.
And just signing him for 4 mil shows to me that the so called experts have less confidence in him than they did Hasselbeck who they offered 3 mil more to play this year.
With that being said Jackson should get a pass for at least half way through the year because of having the least experienced OL in the NFL in front of him, unless he just totally sucks, which I doubt that will happen.
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I read somewhere today that Ron Wolf one of the best GM’s of all time stated if he could hit .333 on all of his draft picks over all he would very happy. so really both Bobby and Stevo are right. despite the fact NFL pro personell people know way more than we do, it’s always a crap shoot. and sometimes the turds float to the top.
If you havent seen this before some very cool stuff from the beast mode.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/09000d5d82217331/Films-Presents-Beast-mode
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Some of the anti-fans are getting tiresome. Can’t say if you are right or wrong until the team actually plays a few games. Lighten up and enjoy the game.
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“Anyone have any predictions for Sunday?”
Judging from the pre-season, I’m expecting our offense to basically be terrible. The Niners defense is solid. I think our defense will be solid to start, but eventually worn down by too much time on the field.
I do think Okung is really a linchpin for us – so maybe his return will give the O a boost. I didn’t see the last pre-season game, so haven’t seen what Jackson looks like w/any time to throw, but I don’t doubt that his best plays on Sunday will be with his feet.
I’m accepting that it’s going to be a tough year. Keep your expectations low, and you can only be pleasantly surprised.
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Looks like we just signed DE Anthony Hargrove. Had a few decent years.
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“Here is some advice, draft good, solid, for sure players, and pick up savvy vets like Clemons and Brock”
….LMAO, is this guy bring serious? That ridiculously terrible method of roster construction is how Tim Ruskell assembled our 2008-2009 disaster. I bet you just loved that Aaron Curry pick.
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Anthony Hargrove a Seahawk.Good signing
http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/112336331023204352
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Hargrove also tweeted and said that he is already in Seattle and has been told he will be playing Sunday. Could turn out to be a solid signing. Great size.
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