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Morning links: Tate likely will stick around

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 2, 2011 at 7:57 am with 38 Comments »
September 2, 2011 7:57 am
Seattle Seahawks receiver Golden Tate. (Joe Barrentine/TNT)

Heading into the Seattle Seahawks final preseason game tonight against the Oakland Raiders, some believe receiver Golden Tate could be on the bubble when the team cuts down to 53 players by Saturday, which my story addresses today.

Although Tate has struggled, including two costly drops – one that turned into an interception return for a touchdown against Minnesota – I do not believe Pete Carroll is ready to give up on the second-round draft choice.

“Our expectations are still high,” Carroll said. “We haven’t lost that at all. He continues to do good things. He’s going to get a lot of play time in this game. This is an important game for him, he’ll get a lot of air time here.

“He’s just a good competitor, a tough guy who makes good catches and can run with the ball. We just need to keep getting it together.”

Carroll also has some financial obligations to consider. Tate agreed to a four-year, $3.261 million deal last year as a rookie, which included a $1 million signing bonus and a total of $1.471 million in guaranteed money, so the team will likely want some sort of return on its investment.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that this is the last time undrafted free agents like receiver Doug Baldwin and safety Jeron Johnson can show they belong on the roster.

Christian Caple of offers five things to look for in tonight’s game.

Pat Kirwan of previews the NFC West, giving us three reasons he expects the mediocre football for a second straight season.

More Kirwan: He doesn’t expect the Seahawks to get back to the playoffs this season.

Michael Lombardi of ranks the NFC West as the worst division in the NFL.

None of ESPN’s stable of writers picks the Seahawks to win the NFC West.

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer reports that Carson Palmer and Bengals’ owner Mike Brown met in late July, perhaps paving the way for the possible return of the disgruntled quarterback to Cincinnati before the regular season begins.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated takes a closer look at the controlled chaos defenses are created to keep offense guessing a the line of scrimmage.

Morning links
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  1. IBGoofy says:

    With all the rec’rs they keep bringing back & looking at, ya gotta feel Tate’s Seahawk career is on the line in this game…. If he plays dumb, he’s probably gone…. regardless what is said before hand…. IMOHA, He needs at least a decent game tonight…..

  2. GriffinNW says:

    Though he hasn’t done a lot, and has had his share of mess ups, I hope he stays. He’s still got too much potential to just dump and let some other team grab him.
    Here’s to hoping for an impressive game from him, and everyone else.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    I don’t see them cutting Tate yet. If they are considering it, I can’t imagine it would be before Butler comes off the PUP list. And 6 weeks into the season, who knows what the injury situation will be at receiver. But unless he really turns a corner, I can’t see him coming back next year.

  4. So Tate will likely stick around, have more trouble with his routes, fail to be where the QB expects him to be, and show alligator-arms when he should be stretching to catch the ball? I think he had his chance. Reminds me a little of Jeremy Stevens wasting years teasing us with his talent when some other player should have been getting his reps instead. Let’s hope Carroll decides to keep 6 WRs so that both Baldwin and Durham make the team. They’re both ready to contribute and not just tease.

  5. I don’t much care for Pat Kirwan’s NFC West preview, but PFF posted some pretty good previews of teams yesterday:

  6. HawksKD says:

    Not only do we have more invested in Tate (than this years 4th round pick Durham) but Tate has also proven more than Durham. In fact Ricardo Lockette has proven more than Durham which I think makes Durham more expendable than Tate….

  7. HawksKD says:

    The real contest in tonights game is who makes the 6th receiver. Durham or Lockette

  8. Ewalters7354 says:

    Golden Tate has to have a good game tonight.I believe he will be the most targeted reciever in this game.He has to show up because if he has a 3 catch 21 yard game I don’t see him making the team.Reminds me of Courtney Taylor,had so much potential and caught every in practice but come game time he is nowhere to be found.

  9. I expect Durham to make the team and not be on the active roster on Sundays. If Carlson were heatlhy, then I think maybe they would have only kept 5 WRs, but now I fully expect us to keep 6 WRs.

  10. (as we would have seen even more 2-TE sets)

  11. HawksKD says:

    I believe so also Bobby. Carlson getting hurt actually will allow us to keep 5 at RB. I’m really hoping Clayton sticks. I think we have a diamond in the rough there.

  12. Soggybuc says:

    The difference between Baldwin and Tate is that Baldwin, while less talented per se had to work at his craft and benefited from having a very good coach who stressed that. slackers and free ballers would not have cut it for Harbaugh.

    Tate on the other hand had coaches who were more worried about thier jobs than teaching so tolerated the pitch and catch mentality that propelled both Tate and Clausen to the next level.

  13. I’m actually much less concerned about losing Carlson than I could have imagined. McCoy, Byrd, and Morrah will all get chances to step up and we can still run lots of 2-TE sets. (which, sadly, we will need simply to keep an extra blocker on the line)

    is Okung expected to play tonight? I’m not too worried about him but it would be good to see him back. I’m especially looking forward to watching the other O linemen start to come together. I have to see Gallery start to step and look like he’s ready to get serious about football this year. Carpenter, Moffitt and Unger all really need to show they belong out there as starters.

    Tough preseason to watch, so far, but tonights game should be a lot more interesting than a preseason game 4 usually is.

  14. Here’s a nice catch by Tate (from CW) in last year’s preseason game against the Raiders:

    Hope to see more of that tonight. Tate seems to have too much talent not to be on an NFL roster. Whether he’s a No. 3 or No. 6 guy remains to be seen.

  15. Nothing gets me more psyched for the season than watching BMW highlights from last year:

    I sure hope he can keep it up. I won’t be surprised if he has more catches than Sydney Rice.

  16. Nice clip, Canfan, but he was lined up at SE on that play and Rice or BMW will be making that play this year. Tate is supposed to be a slot WR this year, so needs to show he can fight for the ball in the middle of the field while under pressure.

    I don’t mean to sound like I’m not rooting for the guy, I am, but what I’ve seen from him this summer so far makes me tired and ready to watch someone else step up.

  17. Talk was Okung starts @ SF.

  18. chuck_easton says:


    Morrah is likely going to start the season on PUP so we can’t expect anything from him until the 7th game of the season at the earliest.

  19. Tate is heralded in practice for making spectacular catches but hasn’t made a single one come game time. The same has been said of Rice but with the state of the offense, nothing. Jackson has sustained one drive that stalled on the one yard line. In reality it should have ended in an INT. From the 25 Jackson severely over threw Rice but the Viking safety let the ball go through his hands. Jackson then hit Williams at the one but after four attempts by Forsett Hawks failed to punch it in.

    Good luck evaluating skill position. To bad we didn’t catch the Bronco this week. They sat (Von Miller) they’re projected starters.

    Know Your Enemy

  20. footballscaa says:

    See ya’ll at the game tonight. Of course I’ll be tired from parking 20 blocks away due to not paying 50$ for parking………

  21. footballscaa, I know the feeling. But I always enjoy parking 10 blocks away for free and wandering through SODO visiting all the tailgating parties! Its football time!

  22. Dream of the week…… Lance Briggs wants out of Chicago. How about we figure out a way to get Briggs and dump Curry? I know, it will never happen. What sort of draft choice would a Lance Briggs trade command?;_ylt=AmAICF_4JeH6gNqfCS2PO8dDubYF?slug=ap-bears-briggs

  23. chuck_easton says:

    Well since there’s no Seahawk news I wanted to give a shout out to my 14 year old son, Tyler.

    He’s a starting defensive tackle on his bantom football team (13 and 14 year olds). Two games into the season and he already has 11 tackles. 6 in one game and 5 in the second. Helps that he’s 6 feet tall and weighed in at 225 lbs as a 14 year old.

    I’m taking him to his first Seahawks game October 30th vs the Bengals. I want him to experience the 12 th man live. Don’t let me down guys. Trying to convince him he might have a chance to play college ball in the States.

  24. Dukeshire says:

    Chuck, that’s awesome! 6′ 225LBS? If Clem goes down we’re bring him in at Leo.

  25. yellaman says:

    While I’m not a big fan of Tate right now, I do agree he does need another offseason to see if he gets it. Right now he is a below average WR and he needs to work on his route running and catching ability. He can’t expect to just run fade or go routes all the time and make it in the NFL. Also, if he is going to be a slot WR he needs to improve his knowledge of the position and become a better student of the game. I.E. Bobby Engram was’t the most talented of WR’s ( later in his career) and he was hass’s go to guy b/c he knew Bobby would be where he needed to be for hass to deliver the ball.

  26. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    Honestly,, I don’t think Tate is cut out as a slot receiver. He doesn’t have the disciplined route running ability or consistent hands to flourish. To me he’s strictly an outside #1 or #2 who should be running deep routes, like DeSean Jackson.

  27. blocis – that’s an irresistable trade idea. But Briggs is 30 and valued by Chi so it is a huge longshot. That said, Ruskell is Chicago’s GM and he drafted Curry at #4, so Schneider should be offering Curry straight-up for Briggs and daring Ruskell to take the deal.

  28. I went to a wedding last weekend in St Paul. Of course I had my new Rice jersey on. :) As I was heading into the hotel this lady was standing out front smoking a cigarette and looking at me with a crooked, somewhat ceepy smile.

    As I past her she muttered under her breath. It took me a few minutes to realize what she had said.

    “Enjoy your new quarterback dude.”


  29. Cornutt, are you sure that ‘lady’ in St Paul wasn’t BobbyK in drag?

  30. Cornutt says:

    LOL! I suppose I should have asked, uh?

  31. just kiddin, Bobby! I know you don’t live in St Paul.

  32. nighthawk2 says:

    I’ll be both surprised and disappointed if Tate makes the squad over Doug Baldwin. Tate has shown nothing and Baldwin has played very well. I’d like to see Rice, Williams, Butler, Durham and Baldwin be the receivers, if they only keep 5. Tate’s never lived up to billign and it doesn’t seem all that much dough to keep him around over a guy who’s outplayed him. But they’re starting Jackson over a guy who’s outplayed him, so I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised at anythign Carroll does.

  33. No offense taken! I like funny stuff (just glad it’s not true).

    Me, the drag lady, and thousands of others in this state know what a joke Jackson is. I’m not looking forward to it.

    chuck – does your kids look like the milk man? I only ask that b/c you said on here before that you’re not the biggest guy in the world. Congrats on the kid playing so well!

    Tate needs more reps. People forget that while others were practicing route running and things like that that he was playing baseball.

  34. raymaines says:

    So far at least, PC & JS don’t have a very good track record with QB’s.

    My worst nightmare is that the ‘Hawks would go 2-14, get the first pick and then pass on Luck to get some doofis from the Big 12 because he’s 6’9″.

  35. IBGoofy says:

    Nighthawk2…. totally agree on the rec’rs…. mostly dissapointed…. Tate has a lot of skill possibilities, but if ya look back on last yr, he was odd man out a lot… methinks the guy has physical talent, but a head that isn’t on correctly… I’ll take a Baldwin…
    As for QB, not sure many QB’s in the league could have survived the pressure Jackson has had. Not making excuses, but he also hasn’t had the first string rec’rs out there all the time either… most analyst’s have said this (except of course, for BobbyK) …. ;-)

  36. Jackson had a great supporting cast in MN. What’s the excuse there?

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