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Morning links: O-line a work in progress

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 31, 2011 at 7:49 am with 28 Comments »
August 31, 2011 7:49 am
Seattle Seahawks offensive line coach Tom Cable. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

Seattle Seahawks offensive line coach Tom Cable discusses the state of his offensive line in my story today.

Cable makes no excuses for his unit’s poor play. He says one rookie, offensive guard John Moffitt, is playing well. And he will try to get his other rookie, offensive tackle James Carpenter, up to speed by the team’s regular-season opener against San Francisco in 11 days.

But if that doesn’t happen, Cable is not shy about using other options, including reserve tackle Breno Giacomini.

“By the time we get ready to go for San Francisco we’ll do what’s best for us to win that football game,” he said. “If that means he’s (Carpenter) is able to come along in the next few weeks to get himself right – and I can get him right – then that’s what we’ll do. If not, then we’ll find someone who can, or we’ll double-team it or triple-team it. Who knows? But we’ll do what it takes to win the football game.”

John Boyle of the Everett Herald has a nice feature on Cable and his return to the Pacific Northwest. Cable’s a 1982 Snohomish High grad.

ESPN 710 Seattle’s Brock Huard says chemistry along the offensive line doesn’t come together overnight in this video.

Clare Farnsworth of offers more from Tuesday’s practice in this practice report.

Steve Kelly of the Seattle Times quotes Cable saying it is “ultimatum week” for his offensive line.

ESPN’s Mike Sando discusses the reasons for keeping Golden Tate on the final roster – along with reasons for letting him go.

Brady Henderson of ESPN 710 Seattle writes that his colleague John Clayton believes Seattle could cut Golden Tate.

Two former Seahawks – defensive tackle Frank Okam and Michael Bennett – should continue to see a lot of playing time for Tampa Bay this season.

Matt Bowen of the National Football Post challenges you to come with your “Gotta Have It” play in a crucial third down or red zone situation.

Pete Prisco of CBS Sports takes on the stat geek in his weekly power rankings – scroll down to the bottom, that’s where you’ll find the Seahawks.

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  1. I hope Carpenter is not a Re-Incarnation of Andre Hines!

  2. GriffinNW says:

    Cut Tate, interesting.

  3. Ewalters7354 says:

    Tom Cable is nothing to play with!I’m so glad he’s our oline coach.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    Projected regular season power-rankings… So they’re going to guess where they’re going to meaninglessly rank teams. Congratulations Pete Prisco of CBS Sports. You’ve discovered yet another degree of separation you can employ to distance yourself from relevance, of any kind.

  5. Soggybuc says:

    Reminds me of that onion article you linked yesterday Duke.

  6. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    I will be furious if they cut Tate. We are only a couple injuries away from having a scary WR situation.

  7. boucherm says:

    Talking about cutting Tate is F-ing crazy. I know he looks useless/bad right now, but one thing we always hear is that it takes rookie WRs a year to get acclimated to the NFL. He seems like a guy that would take a little longer than others–he didn’t just play WR in college, seems like he relied on his physical skills pretty heavily, he looked lost as a rookie and admitted he didn’t play much because he didn’t know his assignments–and this guy then misses the offseason that is supposed to teach him to be an NFL WR.

    I think there are very few players in the league more hurt by the lockout than Golden Tate. We spent a high pick on him and he’s loaded with potential. He needs a real offseason and a second year in the same ofense before any decision against him is made.

  8. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    In my opinion Tate as the potential to be Anquan Boldin Lite or a supercharged Deion Branch. Don’t be down on him because of a pick-6 of an inaccurate Tarvaris Crapson pass. Yes that play was Tate’s fault mostly but let’s not pretend we have Drew Brees throwing laser precision passes from the pocket.

  9. Well, someone is going to get cut. Maybe they should cut Baldwin instead?!

  10. chuck_easton says:

    I would be simpathetic to all the Tate arguments about his not picking up the routes, and his getting acclimated to the NFL and all that if he weren’t obviously being outplayed by an undrafted rookie right now.

    Baldwin is a keeper. Tate better hope that the team keeps 6 WR’s or he better hope that the team sees more in his play than they’ve seen from Durham.

    If it’s 5 WR’s either Tate or Durham goes. Durham has PS eligibility but I don’t know if he’d get there before he was picked up by some other WR hungry team.

    I guess we will know on Saturday, but this is one of those must watch areas.

  11. Ewalters7354 says:

    I can’t believe you guys are saying Golden Tate is a keeper.What has he actually done??Doug Baldwin is a rookie with no offseason and is still outperforming Tate.If injuries do happen Golden Tate won’t do us any good anyway.I wouldn’t be mad if we cut him.C’mon people.

  12. I think they will keep Tate and Durham (and keep 6 WRs).

  13. Tate has done nothing in a year to improve is route running. NOTHING I think he is in a competition for the 5th spot. I tend to think that he is ahead of Durham but,IMO, clearly behind Baldwin.

    I think he makes the team and if they keep 6 then it’s Durham

  14. My prediction….. they keep six WRs. Rice, Williams, Obomanu, Durham, Baldwin and Tate. Butler is on PUP or IR.

    The big question is, what happens when Butler has to come off of PUP?

  15. I think it’s really time for roster predictions :)

  16. Luckily those kids should be big and athletic enough to beat the hell outta anyone who teases them about their crazy-ass names.

  17. If Carpenter is in shape, then it doesn’t look like he fits at RT very well in the NFL. He’ll get better, but he just doesn’t look like a good fit there. Why not swap Carpenter to LG and Gallery to RT? I believe Gallery should be able to play the RT position better than he played at LT, and Carpenter would be another Pete Kendall or Steve Hutchinson at LG. I’d love to see Okung and Carpenter working together on the left side for another dozen years.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Let’s pump the brakes on two things, if I may; comparing Carpenter to Hutch. And moving him altogether from RT after only 3 preseason games.

  19. Tate must be on the bubble given all those opportunities with such little production. Read that he spent the off season finishing his degree but couldn’t find anything on him polishing his WR skills. Athletic ability alone isn’t going to carry him at this level.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Tate were cut loose.

  20. Looks like point could be moot. Rice & Obo both hurt today–Chris Carter & Patrick Williams re-signed. John Gold & Ron Parker cut.

  21. Dukeshire says:

    Rice hurt? As in new injury or they kept him out with his shoulder?

  22. Carpenter = not a bust, but reason for worry based on early results.

    Carpenter and Hutch comparisons can begin/end with the fact that both were 1st round picks of the Seahawks.

    If Carpenter is struggling like this in December, he should potentially be tried at LG after Gallery has his yearly out-for-the-season injury since he turned 29.

    Still, we can back in from the ledge a little bit. I remember when Marino missed the season before with an achilles injury and there was great worry from the organization that he looked like crap in the entire preseason and then, boom, he had way over 300 yards passing in the opener and outdueled Bledsoe and was his usual, great self. It’s way too early to get too bent out of shape.

  23. I don’t understand how someone could complain about Aaron Curry (an overpaid average football player who could start for most teams), and then defend Golden Tate? (an overpaid football player who has never made a play in the NFL and would be cut by most teams).

    We will have to see what Tate, Baldwin, and Durham do in this final week, but if the Seahawks keep 5 WRs, I think it will be Tate and Durham on the bubble. The only thing saving Tate is that Durham is practice squad-eligible.

    My guess:
    PS: Durham
    PUP: Butler

    Durham could probably pass waivers and make it to practice squad, and if Tate continues the same crap we’ve seen, then Durham could take his roster spot by mid-season.

  24. Carpenter looks slow right now, but most rookie OTs get beat by speed rushers. Every rookie needs a year to learn to play at NFL speed.

    I do like that idea of Carpenter moving to LG and Gallery to RT. i doubt Cable would mess around with his rookies like that in 2011. But it may be an interesting possibility for 2012 if Carpenter doesn’t develop.

  25. LuckyCharms says:

    RE: keeping 6 WRs.

    Don’t be surprised if initially they keep 6 WRs after cut down day on Saturday, and then work a trade with Tate to a team that needs help at that position. Ultimately, I think they’ll play the season with 5 WRs and use that extra spot for help on defense or O-line.

    There’s always more roster shuffling after cut down day after teams have had the chance to see who is available from other teams.

  26. akmac63 says:

    Gallery’s history suggests possibilities for Carpenter. That still leaves a need at RT though. Let’s see how things progress the next few weeks. Definitely not panic time yet.

  27. LuckyCharms says:

    @ akmac63 said:

    “Definitely not panic time yet. ”

    Easy for you to say. I doubt Tarvaris shares your opinion. : )

  28. akmac63 says:

    At WR would like to see the following:
    with Tate optional.
    As good as BMW is, he seems a little fragile so keeping Durham would be important. If Baldwin is for real, he can free up Leon from ST’s and let him concentrate on being a RB. Tate looks like Baldwin’s backup.

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