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Carlson disappointed, awaits shoulder surgery

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 31, 2011 at 4:27 pm with 17 Comments »
August 31, 2011 7:12 pm

We had a chance to talk to Seattle Seahawks tight end John Carlson about his shoulder injury this afternoon.

Carlson said he injured the shoulder during Saturday’s practice after Seattle’s first preseason game against San Diego.

“I dove for the ball on one-on-ones, and I think the initial injury was there,” he said. “And I think later in practice I aggravated it blocking.”

Carlson said initially team trainers thought he could avoid surgery by rehabbing and strengthening his shoulder. But when the injury did not get better, he ultimately had to make the choice to have surgery.

“The decision was kind of made by my shoulder,” Carlson said. “It kind of resolved itself by not coming along as far as we wanted it to. Obviously I’m very disappointed. But that’s where my shoulder is, and I need to get it fixed and start the rehab process.”

Carlson said the decision was made tougher by the fact that he felt like he was in top shape heading into the season.

“I’m disappointed obviously,” he said. “I felt like I had a great offseason of training. And so our offseasons are normally devoted to OTAs and training camps, and those things are great for developing offenses, but the individual training is sometimes lacking, and I felt like I had a great offseason in that respect.

“So I’m really disappointed to have to miss this year, and we have some great weapons offensively. But that’s the way it is, and that’s where I’m at right now.”

The reason the Seahawks brought back receivers Patrick Williams and Chris Carter is because the team’s top three receivers did not practice today due to injuries. Sidney Rice (shoulder), Ben Obomanu (shoulder) and Mike Williams (toe) watched from the sidelines during practice.

With those guys out, along with Isaiah Stanback (hamstring), Kris Durham and Golden Tate were Seattle’s starting receivers with the first unit.

And those two, along with Ricardo Lockette, made some plays today.

But Lockette deserves mention because of a spectacular, circus-catch he made on a deep ball against double coverage. With Brandon Browner and Earl Thomas closing in, Lockette went up high and somehow snatched a ball out of the air that was first deflected by Thomas, trapping it on Thomas’ shoulder as he fell to the ground.

Of course, a few plays later Lockette dropped an easy pass over the middle on an in route. His inconsistent play is one of the reasons he has not moved further up the depth chart.

Cornerback Walther Thurmond had a nice interception against Tate during one-on-one in the end zone on a fade route.

And cornerback Richard Sherman had an interception against Lockett during team drills.

Breno Giacomini had another strong day sharing reps with James Carpenter at right tackle, while the rookie continues to struggle in pass protection against veterans like Raheem Brook.

Along with Rice, Williams, Stanback and Obomanu, others sitting out today include running back Marshawn Lynch (ankle), safety Josh Pinkard (knee), linebacker David Hawthorne (knee) and Pierre Allen (hamstring).

Safety Kam Chancellor (foot), defensive end Dexter Davis (hip) and linebacker Aaron Curry (knee) returned to practice. And offensive tackle Russell Okung (ankle) worked through some team drills today, and appears to be progressing with his rehabilitation.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Obo, Lynch, Rice and BMW don’t sound too serious, thankfully. I’d expect them to be ready for the opener. And glad to hear Okung coming along. (Seems like I’ve written that before…)

  2. Could they move Carpener to the inside to guard ?Let him get some work at guard then move him back out to tackle.i

  3. Dukeshire says:

    IMO, they drafted him to be a tackle and should only move him to another position after he proves incapable of playing there at an acceptable level. We’re not anywhere near that point yet. Besides, in order to move him, either a rookie who’s playing relatively well (Moffitt) has his learning curve put on hold or a relatively high priced FA veteran hits the bench (Gallery). Neither of those is terribly attractive. I just don’t see them “hiding” Carpenter, so to speak. I believe he’ll be the opening day RT.

  4. Carlsonkid says:

    Dukeshire , on Crap-enter : “I believe he’ll be the opening day RT.”

    And I believe we’ll get the living crap blitzed out of us all day long on the right side . I wonder how long they expect Jackson to survive while Patrick Willis pounds the bejeezus out of him ? Any bets .. ?

    I got the over / under at a quarter and a half .

  5. Duke – I am willing to bet that Breno Giacomini is the starting RT on opening day, unless he gets hurt before then.

  6. “Carlson disappointed, awaits shoulder injury”??? Umm Eric, not to be picky but isn’t he awaiting surgery? Pretty sure he already has the injury. ;)

  7. I wonder if Zach Miller is going to regret signing here after he spends all of his time, like Carlson before him, babysitting for inept OL play and not being able to catch passes like he’s used to?

  8. williambryan says:

    whoa, whoa, whoa. What exactly has Giacomini done? He has performed better than Carpenter I guess, but he is going against back ups. And lets not forget that Whitehursts pocket has not been the cleanest either. I’m all for competition (and wish Carroll would let there be a competition at QB…) But I’m with Duke. No way Carpenter doesn’t start ahead of Giacomini. Carroll wants to run and Carpenter seems to be a pretty darn good run blocker. As long as Okung is in the game, they can scheme to help Carpenter “make it” in pass protection.

  9. Dukeshire says:

    pab – Done.

  10. Duke, when you wrote “glad to hear Okung is coming along”, I actually thought for a second “He says that a lot”

    Then I thought “wow, Okung is really picking up where Jones left off.. I.E constantly hurt. Although WJ71 was about 154 years older than Okung when his plague set in.

  11. I couldn’t wait!!!

    Number kept last season: Three
    Currently on roster: Three
    Average number kept since 2008: Three
    Lock: Tarvaris Jackson
    Looking good: Charlie Whitehurst,
    Longer odds: Josh Portis

    I say all 3 make the team – Portis would get picked up if they tried to PS him

    Running back
    Number kept last season: Four
    Currently on roster: Six
    Average number kept since 2008: Five
    Locks: Justin Forsett, Marshawn Lynch, Leon Washington
    Looking good: Michael Robinson
    Longer odds: Dorson Boyce, Chase Reynolds

    Boyce Reynolds gone – add Clayton to the list. I don’t like Robinson at all but he will make the team.

    Wide receiver
    Number kept last season: Six
    Currently on roster: 12
    Average number kept since 2008: 5.7
    Locks: Sidney Rice, Mike Williams, Ben Obomanu, Golden Tate.
    In the hunt: Kris Durham, Doug Baldwin, Deon Butler, Richardo Lockette, Isaiah Stanback.

    Rice, Williams, Obo, Baldwin, Tate,
    try to get Durham on PS Lockette gone or PS. Stanback done.
    Butler PUP or cut when returns

    Tight end
    Number kept last season: Four
    Currently on roster: Six
    Average number kept since 2008: 3.3
    Locks: Zach Miller
    Looking good: John Carlson
    In the hunt: Anthony McCoy, Cameron Morrah, Dominique Byrd
    Longer odds: Ryan Travis

    Miller, McCoy, Byrd – Carlson IR and Morrah I believe will replace Byrd when he returns from PUP

    Offensive line
    Number kept last season: 11
    Currently on roster: 15
    Average number kept since 2008: 10
    Locks: Russell Okung, Robert Gallery, Max Unger, John Moffitt, James Carpenter, Mike Gibson, Tyler Polumbus.
    In the hunt: Paul McQuistan, Breno Giacomini, William Robinson, Paul Fanaika,
    Longer odds: Caz Piurowski, Lemuel Jeanpierre, Zach Hurd, Brent Osborne.

    Okung, Gallery,Unger,Moffit, Carpenter, Polumbus, Giacomini, Fanaika Gibson all in.

    Would not be surprised to see a waiver pick up to fill other 2 spots if not Jeanpierre and Hurd make it

    Defensive line
    Number kept last season: Nine
    Currently on roster: 16
    Average number kept since 2008: Nine
    Locks:Chris Clemons, Red Bryant, Alan Branch, Brandon Mebane, Raheem Brock.
    In the hunt: Colin Cole, Junior Siavii, Jimmy Wilkerson, Ryan Sims, Dexter Davis, Pep Levingston, Kentwan Balmer.
    Longer odds: Jameson Konz, A.J. Schable, Jay Alford, Pierre Allen, Jarrett Crittenton.

    Clemons, Bryant, Branch, Mebane, Brock, Cole, Wilkerson,

    I don’t have a clear opinion after those guys

    Number kept last season: Six
    Currently on roster: Nine
    Average number kept since 2008: Six
    Locks: Aaron Curry, David Hawthorne, K.J. Wright
    In the hunt: Leroy Hill, Matt McCoy, Mike Morgan, Malcolm Smith
    Longer odds: Michael Johnson, Neal Howey

    Hawthorne,Curry (sorry it happens) Hill, Wright, McCoy, Smith

    this is the group.

    Number kept last season: Six
    Currently on roster: 13
    Average number kept since 2002: 4.7
    Locks: None
    Looking good:Marcus Trufant, Kelly Jennings, Richard Sherman, Brandon Browner, Walter Thurmond.
    On the bubble: Roy Lewis, Byron Maxwell, Marcus Brown, Josh Pinkard, Kennard Cox.
    Longer odds: Jesse Hoffman, Ron Parker, Brett Johnson

    Tru, Thurmond, Browner, Sherman. then if they keep 6 I think Pinkard and Maxwell, possibly Lewis

    Number kept last season: Four
    Currently on roster: Five
    Average number kept since 2008: Four
    Locks:Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, Mark LeGree
    In the hunt: Jeron Johnson,
    Longer odds: Rickey Thenarse

    Thomas, Chancellor, Johnson, Bigby – I think LeGree to PS

    Then the 3 specialist, Kick, punt, LSnapper

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I am so happy to not have to see all those dropped balls by Carlson this Year! He is not even the fourth best TE on this team!

    And as for Carpenter, He should be benched for being so fat and out of shape!
    Or dumb it down and move him to left guard where he belongs! It will take too long for him to lose enough lard to be an effective right tackle this year.

  13. He isn’t even in the top 24 in the NFC for that stat

  14. seahawk44 says:

    You forgot Vobora at LB. I think he makes the team.

  15. Somewhat lost in this miserable preseason has been the blessing of almost no serious injuries on our team. What a pleasant surprise after the lockout and fears of extra injuries in camp.

    TE is the ONE position on this team where we are deep enough to lose a guy like Carlson.

    We need all the luck we can get this year.

  16. Careful Stevos, dont Jinx anything

    We have Obo, Rice, Williams again with his toe and Lynch with his ankle sitting out. They are having a look at Clinton Portis too, maybe just due diligence in case maybe more to the Lynch anke injury…..

    Also it looks like a lot more starters are going to play longer into the 4th pre season game than normal, so lets hope come Saturday we have escaped without major injury

  17. Dukeshire says:

    Carlsonkid – Whether Carpenter is a all-pro his rookie season or plays in only 3 games, defenses are going to blitz this offense far more than we’d ordinarily see, simply because they are so young across the line in total. Defenses blitz young o-lines. It’s a given. Individually, Carpenter’s play to this point has nothing to do with it.

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