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Owners approve settlement to end lockout; Players turn to act

Post by Eric Williams on July 21, 2011 at 4:13 pm with 27 Comments »
July 21, 2011 4:36 pm
Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank talks to reporters in Atlanta at the owners' meeting. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

NFL owners, including Seattle Seahawks owner Paul Allen, overwhelmingly voted to approve a settlement proposal to end the lockout with players in Atlanta on Thursday, considered a precursor to the two sides ultimately agreeing to a new collective bargaining agreement.

The final vote was 31-0, with the Oakland Raiders abstaining.

Now the ball is in the players’ court to recertify as a union and sign off on the agreement that calls for the two sides to divide up an estimated $9.3 billion in gross revenue.

That might be easier said than done.

The players have a meeting scheduled via conference call at 5 p.m. Pacific time.

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has a private conversation with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell as a security guard looks on in the hallway outside the NFL Owners meetings at the Atlanta Airport Gateway Marriott in Atlanta on Thursday. (Curtis Compton/ Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

However, NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith, speaking to reporters at his organization’s headquarters in Washington, D.C., hinted that recertifying the union – a needed step toward an agreement – was not imminent.

“Here in America, every time an employee makes that decision about whether he wants to be a part of a union, it’s something that is serious, significant and should be done in a very sober way,” Smith told reporters in Washington.

According to a NFLPA source that Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network spoke to, the players want to use a system of signed cards and follow certain bylaws in order to recertify, which could take more time and push back the start of free agency and training camps.

Here’s an excerpt from a report on the league’s web site:

“The issue between the parties is mainly one of time, specifically how long it would take to collect approximately 1,900 signatures. Getting those signatures takes time, and the league obviously is looking to open for business as soon as possible. There is the possibility the National Labor Relations Board could help speed things up, even if the recertification process is done by actual signature.

“The parties also could come to a compromise, according to a source, whereby the lockout is lifted before a full global settlement is reached — which would have to include recertification in order to have a full CBA — to allow players to report in the interim.

“That would make it easier to collect signatures and cards of players currently under contract since they would be centrally located at team facilities. If that takes place, in theory, then the signatures needed could be obtained over weekend and allow the league year to begin next week.”

UPDATE: Take a look at the proposed NFL calendar here.

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  1. Hawksince77 says:

    Al Davis. It figures.

  2. Dukeshire says:

    The Raiders abstain from voting? Could the crypt keeper not be bothered to levy a vote?

    I’m curious what the hesitation for the players to re-certify is, presuming they accept the proposal. Does it have to do with the anti-trust suit, the Brady case? Chuck…? Need a little clarification here.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    This is a liquid situation, but it appears the players are not excited about this “agreement”. That is, they appear to feel they are being painted into a corner, from a PR standpoint and they fact they weren’t apart of the negotiations that led to this “agreement”. Remember, the owners offered the players a proposal just prior to the de-certification as well. In many ways this is much the same thing. Hopefully this is a deal that the players are willing to accept but it sure sounds like this “agreement” does not meet MANY of the players requirements.

    As we begin to slow down, this does feel like a power play from the league. If the NFLPA doesn’t vote in favor of the “agreed” CBA, ideally the will counter with another proposal. Something they have inexplicably not done to date.

  4. Hall of Fame game cancelled.

    1ST pre-season games next?

  5. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Wow…roller coaster of emotions as I’d hoped that we were coming to the end of this. Damn.

  6. Soggybuc says:

    Well that sucks very large Balls!

  7. Dukeshire says:

    osbrey – Players haven’t voted yet. At the moment, they’ve rejected nothing.

  8. Demaurise Smith and the entire players executive commitee rejected the owners CBA proposal.

    They did not offer a counter-proposal to the owners.

    So there is nothing for the rank and file to radify.

  9. SeahawkFan12 says:

    osbrey do you have a better source than redzone.org? I’m not seeing it anywhere else so far.

  10. Seahawkfan12,
    At the bottom of the main article above there is an Update.
    Clickon the update and go to Paragraph #5.

    “The NFL announced that players can begin voluntary workouts at club facilities on July 23 if the NFLPA Executive Board approves the settlement terms.”

    The Executive Board rejected the settlement terms.

  11. Dukeshire says:

    osbrey – Lol, the players haven’t voted yet. Despite all the rhetoric, they haven’t rejected it. Yet. They may. But as it stands right now you (or your source) is incorrect.

  12. Dukeshire says:

    “The Executive Board rejected the settlement terms.” This is false.

  13. SeahawkFan12 says:

    C’mon gents. Let’s either report solid facts or stay optimistic. Don’t post BS if it has no weight. Until the players vote–WHICH THEY HAVE NOT–they we are still deadlocked. The ball is in the players’ court.

  14. Ewalters7354 says:

    This damn lockout is getting out of hand!.Giving the fans false hope and all that craziness.Player crying about all this bull but are getting paid millions of dollars.It seems the owners are trying to work out a deal but the bum D Smith is continuing to rebuddle against everything that is offered.I really am not fond of him.

  15. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith sent an email to the 32 player representives after the owner vote.
    DeMaurice Smith to players: ‘There is no agreement’

    It read as follows:
    “As you know, the owners have ratified their propsal to settle our differences. It is my understanding that they are forwarding it to us.

    As you may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal. Obviously, we have not been a part of those discussions.

    As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open; other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved.

    There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time. I look forward to our call tonight.”

    Doesn’t sound like this will be resolved without further negotiations.

  16. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Thank you, excile.

  17. Stupid owners!! Totally a PR move, no real “agreement” just a power play by the owners.

    IF the players get a few things straightened out I hope it does actually go to a vote it passes and we are good to go.

  18. Like Steve Young said, the owners agreed to their own deal they made. Plus you got a 500+ document the players have to go over, you just can’t do that in a couple of hours. The owners are trying to be scandulous by making it look like they set up an agreement that themselves and the players had a hand shake deal on so when the players take their time to go over it, it looks like they are the bad guys. Also, if what some media folks are speculating is true, the owners threw some language in their about revenue sharing and some other stuff that they never even discussed with the players. The owners are just like every other CEO’s and corperations, think of the Banking Industry, how do you think they got so much money and power, by screwing people over and thats what it sounds like they are trying to do to the players. Hopefully fans see through this garbage and realize that the owners our trying to back the players into a corner and have them rush to agreewithout fully understanding what it is they are signing.

  19. Why can’t folks just be honest and staight foward, I mean really, why can’t they just come up with a reasonable agreement. Why do some people always have to try and squeeze a little more out then they should instead of just being fair. F… greed man, money will always be the root to all evil. I thought that analogy of the guy buying a caddy and him and the dealership arguing about the floor mats, really, if your about to buy a caddy, throw in the floor mats for free mother f….er.

  20. Why can’t folks just be honest and staight forward?

    Because if they are deceitful they’re more likely to “win”. If you’ve got enough money for that Caddy you can certainly afford floor mats.

    /devils advocate
    //literally, the NFL owners are Satan’s minions.

  21. The “July 21 deadline” and FA period that has been floated in the press for a week now appears to be another PR ploy by owners. They still have the players right where they want them, not seeing the fair deal they want, but knowing they have to give in and sign up soon. And now the owners have created more pressure on players to agree by getting the fans pumped up by the idea of FA and camps opening soon. They players union will be forced to eat this deal before players start missing checks.

  22. chuck_easton says:

    The Owners did NOT make any last minute changes to the agreement in anything that effects what the players NEGOTIATED.

    The only real change the owners made was to set up formal revenue sharing between the teams (good for the game, keeps the small market teams happy and functioning.

    The other thing the Owners did was to give the players a deadline. Sign the deal and reform the Union or no deal. A deadline for signing the deal is standard in any formal negotiation I have been in. When you get to the point that everyone has done their give and take and their are parts of the deal that each side likes and parts that each side doesn’t like you set a deadline.

    To not have a hard deadline gives the other side the opportunity to go back and try to re-negotiate what has been done.

    It’s the age old ‘buyer’s remorse’. I’ll put it in terms the vast majority of us have actually dealt with. You go to the car dealer. You talk price. You talk features. You haggle over the sound system. Each side tries to get the other to ‘throw in’ something to benefit the other side. At the end of the day the dealer tells you the deal is on the table until day X or he/she will have to sell the car to someone else. Even if you do sign you go home and have that immediate “what have I gotten myself into’ moment.

    The players are now having ‘buyers remorse’. They negotiated this deal. They gave up alot. They got alot of consessions from the owners. Now it’s time to put pen to paper and they are having second thoughts.

    But in their minds instead of being honest with themselves and saying “I should have gotten the rubber mats and not the cloth ones’ they say the owners took advantage of them and pushed them into a bad deal.

  23. SeahawkFan12 says:

    chuck, great post. Thanks for the explanation.

  24. It’s July 22, now what?

  25. http://www.theredzone.org

    NFLPA to meet monday July 25TH.

  26. Chuck while I have enjoyed your expertise through all of this – I am not sure anyone – other than the players and the owners know if there was different language in it or not.

    I have seen “experts” say there was extra and there wasn’t extra.

    We have heard from both sides that the revenue sharing was put in by the owners and the players had not seen it. Goodel said it himself. We put in a supplemental revenueing sharing plan for the players.

    I am also confident from listening to both sides talk that the owners ratified their proposal not a done deal where everything is done.

    I believe they have agreed to the base of the contract but not necessarily all the specifics. Some of those specifics might be critical to the players. Having been through a number of these types of negotiations (okay ours are talking like $700,000 a year and not 9 billion) both sides try this all the time.

    The more I watch the NFL press conference the more I feel it was all a PR stunt by the owners.

    It’s really odd because I have gone back and forth on who I favor in this whole thing – but right now I feel the players are getting a short stick right now. heck they didn’t even see the agreed deal until 2.5 hours after the press conference. That is just odd to me.

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