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Morning links: NFL closing in on a deal

Post by Eric Williams on July 15, 2011 at 6:18 am with 36 Comments »
July 15, 2011 6:19 am
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, left, and National Football League Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith, center, speak to the media outside of the Ritz-Carlton hotel after addressing players during the NFLPA rookie symposium on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 in Sarasota, Fla. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

Albert Breer of the NFL Network reports that the owners and players had a breakthrough in negotiations on Thursday on the rookie wage scale, and remain on target to reach an overall agreement on a new CBA in time for the owners to ratify a new contract with the players when they meet in Atlanta on Thursday.

Breer: “The parties must work on language to settle the Brady antitrust suit and any plaintiff damages, as well as address the looming decision by Judge David Doty in the television rights fee case. Issues of workers’ compensation and injury guarantees also are still being negotiated. And no deal can be complete until the owners and players address the issue of whether now, and how, the NFL Players Association re-constitutes as a labor union.

“But the major tenets of the deal are in place, and whether it’s completed this weekend or next week, there’s a prevailing sense for both parties that they finally are nearing an agreement.

“The owners and players put several issues to bed Thursday before breaking for the night, according to sources with direct knowledge of the talks. Those issues included re-addressing the commissioner’s power via discipline. A panel of former judges will oversee special master and other decisions, but specifically how commissioner discipline issues are appealed hasn’t yet been resolved, though it’s “trending” toward a decision, sources said.

“Also, salary-cap details became clear — the 2011 projected cap will be roughly $123 million, according to sources, but as a practical matter will “feel” more like $130 million to teams when cap credits and new cap exceptions are factored. And teams will have to spend, in cash, 90 percent to the cap minimum, and league-wide spending will be pegged at 99 percent to the cap.”

This story by ESPN offers even more details on how the parameters of the deal are shaking out.

Elliot Harrison of takes a look at why NFC West teams are interested in Kevin Kolb’s services – they are home to some of the worst passing offenses in the league and struggled to score points last season.

With everyone putting out their top 100 players in the league, Bill Barnwell of attempts the opposite – putting together his top 25 worst players in the league. And of course you couldn’t have a list like this without including a Seahawk, so offensive lineman Tyler Polumbus (unfairly, I think) gets the nod. Former Seahawks T.J. Houshmandzadeh also is on the list.

Clare Farnsworth of takes a look at the 2008 team and Mike Holmgren’s disappointing finish in Seattle.

Wes Bunting of the National Football Post provides a list of the top undrafted free agents available. The list includes Richmond defensive tackle Martin Parker, someone Seattle could be looking at to help fill the team’s void up front defensively.

Parker was the defensive MVP of the East-West Shrine game. Check out the video below.

If you’re looking for inspiration this morning, check out this video of Arizona safety Adrian Wilson pushing up 405 pounds twice on the incline bench. Ridiculous.

Morning links
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  1. Dukeshire says:

    That is great news. Next week at this time we’ll have actual football! Fingers crossed.

    What an idiotic list. Polumbus makes it? He wasn’t even the worst lineman on the team. I’d take him over Andrews or Lock, last year.

    E, you been hitting the gym with AW? Good lord man!

  2. SandpointHawk says:

    It appears Polumbus makes the list for 2009. Or he could be blaming him for all Denver’s problems last year…that’s a strange twist of logic to say the least..

    “He moved onto Seattle after camp and actually was decent as a fill-in lineman, so there is hope.”

    I think he will be a fine backup for us. I’d rather have him than Lock….

  3. SandpointHawk says:

    Always seems a bit odd when Seahawks are targeted by other teams. Since we get no respect from the press, we have no great or even good players, and we can’t draft for crap why would they want Mebane anyway?

  4. An interesting development.
    Players had a secret fund that would pay each roughly $200,000 if there was no football in 2011. Enough to kick start negotiations Wednesday.


  5. I find this to be quite interesting (I think you will too)…

  6. williambryan says:

    He isn’t Gallery or one of the other top options but he would probably be an improvement for this team

  7. SandpointHawk says:

    Re: Carlisle ~ He’s 33 yrs old and plays right guard…seems we have traveled this road several times since Hutch got away…but whatever…

    Re: Secret Fund ~ I’m liking Domonique Foxworth more and more…

  8. I’m not saying that’s what I’d do (sign a 33-year old guard). I’m just stating what I saw and thought I’d pass it along. I admit he’s not part of the long-term solution, but if Cable wants him, I’m pretty sure he’s going to get him.

  9. If they sign any RG in free agentcy it better be Marshal Yanda!

  10. SandpointHawk says:

    Bobby, I’m just saying that as recently as last year we brought a couple well respected guards in who where a bit long in the tooth because they knew the zone, granted Pitts was coming off a major knee injury but how did that work out? Carlisle will be 34 when the season starts.

    I know you were just putting it out there and he does have ties to Cable so it is a good possibility….However I hope they can find someone long term out there, looks like they have a lot of money they need to spend to get up to the cap floor…

  11. Yanda is a 5TH year player and a PREMIER RIGHT GUARD!

  12. Sand – why do you think I was so psycho during the draft about adding Marcus Cannon in the 4th round (even if he wouldn’t be ready until ’12)? It’s because I have been complaining for YEARS that we don’t have enough continuity along the OL and too many teams do crap like have a rookie, next to a 10 year vet, next to a 5 year vet, next to a 12 year vet, next to a 3 year vet. It makes me mad when teams complain about never having consistency up front, yet never do anything about getting a bunch of guys who will play together for a long time. I’m so happy that we can look at Unger and Moffpender and think we’re going to have 3 guys playing side-by-side-by-side for almost a decade together. I agree 100% and if you’ve read the 329,302,884,504 posts the last few years, you’ll remember that we both agree 100% on this issue. If I post a link that says the Seahawks are going to trade for Player X, it doesn’t mean I want player X. I simply thought other people might want to know what I saw.

  13. Yes. We both agree 100% on that (I think my post sounds bad towards you after I reread it… it wasn’t intended that way at all… sorry if it did).

  14. chuck_easton says:

    Um, now for something totally out of left field, since it’s Friday, Stampede Week, and finally sunny and warm here (22c or 77f for your south of the border guys).

    Why all the talk of these RG’s? Isn’t that what Moffett is here for? We need a LG.

    I know any interior lineman can be swapped and you can find anyone off the street to play LG (sorry had a Ruskell flashback there).

  15. fuqutribune says:

    Grantland would be a decent site if someone would control the length of the article…Jeez, I usually fall asleep halfway through most posts. Wait, let me Herm Edwards my comment…What I am saying is that Grantland IS A GOOD SITE BUT THE STORIES ARE TOO LONG!!!

  16. SandpointHawk says:

    Bobby, I agree, go for the long term answer. Hutch proved the value of a world class LG. Pete has shown that he agrees the the O Line is a priority. We need to get out of the Ruskell habit of overpaying for vets who are on their last legs. We need to forge a winning attitude where star free agents want to play for Seattle and not just for one year and not just for the money, but because we are winners each and every year….(an old man can still dream…) Oh I forgot to mention we want Dirt Bags…
    Also…Lord knows I may be the king (or maybe only a squire) of laying a link down for others to read and then going on my merry way so think nothing of it …I fully understand…

  17. Maybe Moffitt stays at LG and continues to play there for us, like he did at Wisconsin, and we sign a RG? Either way, Moffitt plays next to a an extremely young offensive tackle 1st round pick and his center remains the same. I know Cable and comPete have said that Moffitt is their RG, but we all know that plans can and do change. It’s not like Moffpender have been getting work in together and already forming their chemistry. We’ll see (although I still buy into what they said that Moffpender will man the right side).

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Chuck- Cal-Gary (as your brethren call it) Stampede is a hell of a good time. Been a couple of times when I was younger.

    So now we’re into a RG and moving Moff to LG? God, I can’t wait for camp to open and FA to begin so we can start talking about what is rather than conjecture.

  19. Did I say that’s what we’re going to do? No. It’s your favorite thing to do… SPECULATE “what if?” :)

  20. What a great trump card… the $200,000 per player insurance in case of a season long lockout. Good stuff.

    For the record, I don’t care who “wins” in this pissing match. I only care the season starts when it’s supposed to!

  21. Even though we seem to have drafted well for to beef up our OL, we’re still only a couple high ankle sprains away from having gaping holes again, so we need depth at OL.

    I would welcome a couple of Cable guys who could mentor our youngsters and step right in, should somebody go down hurt.

  22. Good FA LGs (29 & younger):
    NE’s Logan Mankins 6-4/307, 29 yo (FT’d)
    NO’s Carl Nicks 6-5/343, 26 yo (’11 will be 4th yr, was tendered high)
    *ATL’s Justin Blaylock, 6-3/320, 27 yo (’11 will be 5th yr, he was tendered-???)
    SF’s David Baas, 6-4/319, 27 yo (played C last season).
    CIN’s Evan Mathis, 6-5/304, 29 yo (CIN & CAR – injury prone)
    *GB’s Daryn Colledge, 6-4/300, 29 yo

    It’d sure be nice to have two OLs, one a set of 5 healthy pro-bowlers who give SEA home-town discounts and behind them another group of 5 healthy youngsters who work together every day and seriously push the 1st string for playing time. Trouble is, the 1st string would probably cost $40M/yr to keep and the 2nd string another $30M/yr (unless 1st & 2nd rd rookie contracts come down alot). If these backups could be acquired from the same college teams where they’d already played together 3-4 years in the same ZBS, that shouldn’t hurt either, assuming they’re very, very good.

  23. Apparently Seahawks might have interest in ATL’s RT Tyson Clabo (?)

    Apparently, 1st-rd picks will sign 4 yr contracts, with options for a 5th yr. Money will be reduced by 40 – 50% from last year’s, and veterans will receive the difference.

  25. Dukeshire says:

    “It’d sure be nice to have two OLs, one a set of 5 healthy pro-bowlers who give SEA home-town discounts and behind them another group of 5 healthy youngsters who work together every day and seriously push the 1st string for playing time.”

    Lol! Yes, that would be nice. It would also be nice if Santa Claus was real. I’d settle for a “set” of 2 pro bowl o-linemen with 3 capable players filling out the unit.

    Bobby – I wasn’t singling you out, there were three of you signing a RG (you did instigate it though.). But come on. An aging lineman who’s a favorite of the new o-line coach… I thought we already went through the Ben Hamilton experiment.

  26. Dukeshire says:

    Thanks klm, reading some of those Schefter tweets confirms what I have always known about him; he’s a moron. What does this mean? “Sides seeking to improve the culture of football.” Idiot. Or this “If and when the two sides finalize a deal, the new CBA will be 7 to 10 years. Good. Don’t want to hear about this again until at least 2018.” Right, because the owners didn’t opt out of the last CBA years early… Why anyone pays any attention to anything he has to say is beyond me. (klm – I really don’t mean that as a knock on you. Simply a general statement.)

  27. Dukeshire says:

    For what it’s worth, the ticker on ESPN just now, noted that another aspect agreed upon for the new CBA, is that the Franchise Tag. One per team, no restrictions on position.

  28. I don’t want Ben Hamilton II… only relayed what was speculated. The next time I come across something I don’t necessarily agree with… I simply won’t share it with anyone if it’s going to get this f-ing stupid around here.

  29. Dukeshire says:

    What are you talking about? You hit happy hour tonight? Relax…

  30. Remember… messenger

    I was stumbling through some of the KLM links – which by the way didn’t have any info on Clabo – anyhow found some tweets from a Washington Post reporter. If this guy is credible it sounds like an agreement has nearly been reached.
    Mark Maske Tweets

  31. chuck_easton says:


    Please don’t stop with the what ifs. It’s one of those things getting us through right now. It’s fun to be arguing actual football.

    If we agreed with you all the time and we couldn’t good naturedely challenge each other I’d have to go jump off a bridge. Since the only bridges are a couple of meters above two rivets that are only a meter or so deep I’d just end up wet.

    Much more fun to have at each other in friendly debate.

  32. Soggybuc says:

    Please relax a bit Bobby, i didnt see anything that was a hardcore attack on ya. hell go read a political blog for a bit now thats some testiness. this all rainbows, puppies and unicorns by comparison.

  33. Both Gallery and Carlisle were linked to Seattle by the Raiders beat reporter as soon as Tom Cable was hired by the Seahawks. I don’t think it means much, other than an idle prediction that Cable might bring in some guys he already knows. No one should be too surprised if either one is signed. Cable needs some veteran leaders, and he’ll only have 3 days to find them.

  34. Suppose Unger starts at C, Moffit at RG, and C at RT, Okung at LT, and Gibson at LG (although Gibson seems a little doubtful as a starter, he might be the best we have currently).

    The average age of that offensive line is 23.8 years old!

    The total number of games started by all five players (in those positions) is 23 total NFL starts!

    The Seahawks play at San Francisco and at Pittsburgh their first two games this season. Do you think maybe the 49ers and Steelers D linemen are going to be salivating at the chance for an early season tune-up beating up on these kids?

  35. williambryan says:

    stevos, maybe the d linemen that won’t be going up against Okung will be salivating.

  36. williambryan, yes! That should be a big load off of everyone’s minds! especially the QB!

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