Seahawks Insider

Morning links: More jumbo sets in store for Hawks?

Post by Eric Williams on June 27, 2011 at 10:52 am with 21 Comments »
June 27, 2011 10:53 am
Russell Okung and Tyler Polumbus watch practice last year. (Joe Barrentine/TNT)

Aaron Schatz of Football Outsiders provides some interesting analysis on NFL teams and their use of six offensive linemen sets – or jumbo packages where an offensive tackle replaces a tight end up front.

Teams traditionally use jumbo packages in short yardage or goal line situations to get an extra push up front in the run game. What’s interesting is Oakland – under head coach Tom Cable – used the most jumbo sets in the league last year, a little over 12 percent of the time, averaging a league-best 6.2 yards per play in that formation.

Predictably, the Seahawks, with pass-happy Jeremy Bates and no run game were toward the end of the list, using jumbo set .8 percent of the time.

So, will Seattle use more jumbo sets with Cable now the team’s offensive line coach? It’s possible, depending on how well the new offensive line comes together with rookies James Carpenter and John Moffitt up front, along with the Seahawks’ ability to play from ahead so they can focus on running the ball more.

Greg Gabriel of the National Football Post picks Seattle cornerback Walter Thurmond as one of his second-year impact players for the upcoming season.

Gabriel: “Early in the 2009 college season, Thurmond looked like a sure first-round pick. He showed great cover skills to go along with excellent return skills. Then he tore up his knee near the end of the season and had to go through a long rehab. When he was drafted by Seattle he was not 100 percent and though he played the whole season he never looked like the athlete we saw at Oregon. With another offseason to rehab he should be back to top form. He has the tools to eventually be a No. 1 corner in the league.”

ESPN’s John Clayton writes that if – once a CBA is agreed to with an estimated salary cap of around $120 – the Seahawks would be $39 million under the cap with a payroll of about $83 million, giving them plenty of room to bring back Matt Hasselbeck and make free agent plays on players like Oakland offensive guard Robert Gallery.

Adam Rank of includes Seattle quarterback Matt Hasselbeck on his top six list of signal callers who deserve a Super Bowl ring.

Scout Inc.’s Matt Williamson takes a closer look at Seattle linebacker Aaron Curry, and wonders if he’ll ever justify his selection as a No. 4 overall pick.

With St. Louis and Chicago – the participants in this year’s Hall of Fame game – set to open camp three weeks from this Friday, Albert Breer of the NFL Network says this is a huge week for NFL labor negotiations.

Andrew Brandt of the National Football Post writes that the lockout has cut into the offseason “Me Time” of contract negotiations, and will create a condensed, frenzied month of activity before training camp begins.

Baltimore Ravens cornerback Dominque Foxworth ably fills in for Sports Illustrated’s Peter King in this week’s Monday Morning Quarterback report. Foxworth says owners and players must work harder to get a deal done.

Len Pasquarelli of the Sports Xchange has a wealth of interesting tidbits in this week’s tip sheet.

Morning links
Leave a comment Comments → 21
  1. HawkfaninMT says:

    Speaking to the info above about the Hawks being 39M or so below the Salary cap, there is also discussions about a salary floor. In contrast to the cap, the floor is the minimum a team can spend and I read it was discussed to be in the 90-95M range.

    So not only are the Haws 39M under the cap, they could concievably be 10M or so under the floor in essence requiring them to go out and spend money.

    Go get some young good FAs!!

  2. HawkfaninMT says:

    Note to self: Click on link, read, then Comment! I guess I just regurgetated basically what Clayton just said above…


  3. Dukeshire says:

    That’s interesting about the jumbo sets. League wide, I’ve noticed more and more jumbo and unbalanced lines on Sundays than in recent past. And with Cable here and Carroll’s commitment to running it, I see no reason Seattle won’t rank among league leaders in ’11 (injuries not withstanding.)

  4. GeorgiaHawk says:

    This is why I think we have a chance to do even better this year while we continue to build for the future.
    This is going to get fun real fast around here!

    ” Seattle Seahawks: General manager John Schneider and coach Pete Carroll could go on a spending spree. They have $39 million of cap room and a payroll of $83 million. To meet the NFL payroll floor, the Seahawks would have to spend $37 million. They need a veteran left guard, so that leaves plenty of room to go for Raiders left guard Robert Gallery. They offered Matt Hasselbeck $7 million in a one-year deal. They could easily afford to bring him back and then make deals at other positions to upgrade their roster.”

  5. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Eric- Are there any recent updates on Okungs ankles?

    HawkfaninMT- Nothing wrong with regurgetating words that are music to my ears!

    Dukeshire- Could we be on the path to possibly having the greatest O-line in Seahawk history? Not greatest left side of course.

  6. SeahawkFan12 says:

    GeorgiaHawk, I’m cool with building the greatest O-line in franchise history, especially since we have money to spend. This is awesome. The o-line is like the engine in a car (especially if you are committed to running the ball as Pete says he is). Spend big money on the engine and upgrade the rims and paint job as you go. At this rate, we might have a pretty mean hot rod once September rolls around!

  7. OT
    Puyallup’s Ryan Moore earned $528,000.00 Yesterday at the Travelers Golf Tournament !

  8. In defense of Bates and the jumbo sets… we could have put every offensive linemen we had on the LOS last year and we still would have lost yards in the run game (not that he probably would have if he had the tools though). It wouldn’t have mattered. The linemen were simply that bad and have been that bad for a long time. It’s going to be so nice to see a healthy Okung, Unger (healthy and at center), and Moffpender, to go with a free agent left guard (probably Gallery). It’s giving me warm fuzzies just thinking about it.

  9. BobbyK
    If Pitts passes his physical, He is the Starting Left Guard!

  10. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – I’ll say this, the invesent is there; 2 firsts a second and a third, plus what they do moving forward. So many variables, but there’s every reason to think they are building a dominant line for many years to come.

    Osprey – if that’s the case I hope he doesn’t pass it.

  11. I expect them to address the areas not addressed in the Draft. Qb,DL, FB with the floor dollars. Perhaps also securing longer and bigger contracts on current keepers.

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Listen up NFL players and perhaps you will have more leverage next time you go into negotiations with the owners!

  13. Dukeshire says:

    Wasn’t the rookie symposium cancelled back in May? Is this something different that an independent group is putting on? Why is Fox calling it that? Confused…

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Seahawkfan12- If that pretty mean hot rod is anything close to the Hogs in the Eighties or the great Cowboys line of the Nineties then I will most certainly be a happy camper!

    “Wasn’t the rookie symposium cancelled back in May? Is this something different that an independent group is putting on? Why is Fox calling it that? Confused…”

    Don’t know? Good question Dukeshire. However it is, it is very clear for anyone to see who is the better collectively with money management between the Owners and the players.

  15. Nfl symposium was cancelled and the nflpa is hosting one, iirc.

  16. KCthehawk says:

    This rookie symposium is being put on by the players union reps.

  17. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Thanks KCthehawk- Perhaps the rookies will learn something! It appears like the veterans havent.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Thanks for the clarification RADEoN / KC.

We welcome comments. Please keep them civil, short and to the point. ALL CAPS, spam, obscene, profane, abusive and off topic comments will be deleted. Repeat offenders will be blocked. Thanks for taking part and abiding by these simple rules.

JavaScript is required to post comments.

Follow the comments on this post with RSS 2.0