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Morning links: Hawthorne still underrated

Post by Eric Williams on June 13, 2011 at 8:38 am with 16 Comments »
June 13, 2011 8:38 am
Seattle Seahawks linebacker David Hawthorne (DOUG PENSINGER/GETTY IMAGES).

ESPN’s John Clayton rated Seattle Seahawks linebacker David Hawthorne as the team’s most underrated player in his league-wide list.

Here’s what Clayton had to say about Hawthorne: “David Hawthorne of the Seahawks was a top special-teams player, but injuries at the Seahawks linebacking corps gave him starts. Hawthorne made the most of them. He’s had 117 and 106 tackles over the past two seasons and continues to get better each year.”

Pete Prisco of CBS Sports gave Brandon Mebane his vote for most underrated player on the Seahawks, and said Mike Williams was the most overrated player for Seattle.

Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll tells ESPN 710 Los Angeles that despite the NCAA taking away the 2004 national title, the USC players still know who won. Carroll also talks a little bit about the upcoming season. The link includes audio from the radio interview.

Clare Farnsworth of strolls down memory lane again, this time taking a look back at the Seahawks 1977 team, lead by the franchise’s first head coach, Jack Patera.

Doug Farrar of Yahoo Sports ranks the worst third-down backs in the league, and Marshawn Lynch makes the list. However, I think this has more to do with Seattle’s offensive line than Lynch’s running ability.

Golden Tate talks about his rookie season for Seattle in this video after accepting the College Football Performance wide receiver award.

Earl Thomas ranks No. 11 in this list of the top safeties in the league by USA Today.

Carroll is hosting a coaching clinic at the VMAC on Friday. Click here for more details.

Peter King of Sports Illustrated writes to don’t expect a resolution imminently in NFL labor talks.

Jack Bechta of the National Football Post does a nice job of breaking down what is at stake in terms of future revenue between the owners and players, making it easier to understand why these negotiations have been contentious and are taking awhile to get resolved.

Matt Bowen of the National Football Post writes about three routes you must stop to win in the NFL, the flat-7 or flag route, the spot and the dagger.

Rob Rang of writes that Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor’s best chance to stick in the league might be as a pass catcher.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    I agree with Clayton that nationally, Hawthorne is terribly underrated. (Although saying he’s unknown may be more accurate. If people knew who he was he might not be underrated at all). But he’s in a bit of an odd spot in Carroll’s scheme; he’s not as capable in coverage as a Will ought to be in this scheme, not really as fast as Carroll might like their either, yet he’s a tackling machine. His best position is probably Mike (especially if his coverage improves) but that’s not happening so long as Lofa’s here, for good or I’ll. It will be interesting to see if they offer him a long term deal. That would indicate, to me at least, they view him as many of us do; Lofa’s replacement. Wright’s going to push him at Will. I’d hate to see it, but he may have to leave to become a 3 down player. Love Heater so I hope they extend him.

  2. williambryan says:

    I like the golden tate clip. I’m expecting him to breakout in a big way this year.

  3. GeorgiaHawk says:

    How could Mike Williams be overrated when he wasn’t expected by most to even make the team last year?

  4. I like the Heater also. Some people see Mike Williams as a number 1 WR when he shouldn’t be anything more than the slot guy.

  5. Yeah. Heater isn’t a 3 down type of guy that we’d ideally like to have at WILL but I’m glad to have him (as everyone is, too). I can’t see Lofa’s knees allowing to play for more than a few more years (at an acceptable level) and it’s nice to have him around to play the middle if he’s needed. I don’t see him as a star, but he’s the good type of player that good/winning teams need.

  6. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Mike Williams wouldn’t be a #1 WR if the Seahawks really had a #1 WR.
    Did that make any sense? That didn’t sound right for some reason.

    I am a Heater fan too! If Lofa keeps regressing I would like to see Hawthorne replace him on first and second down. But I hope Lofa has a rebound year.

  7. If Lofa’s knees cooperate, he’s going to be fine and will have a very good 2011. But it’s nice to have Heater insurance, just in case…

  8. MattandCindy says:

    I’ve loved Lofa since his days at USC. He’s always been a SMART, high motor type player. Not alot of guys can QB the defense the way he does. That being said, it’s almost too much of a gamble having him start. He would surely do a servicable job, but all it would take is a slight tweak in one his knees, and he’s lost for at least a few games. We need continuity on defense.

    He’s obviously lost a little bit with age and injuries, and with every start he takes at the Mike, he takes VALUABLE time away from Hawthorne. Heater is the future at MLB for us, and his talent is almost wasted at Will. I know it sucks that Lofa would then be bumped into a back-up role…or onto another team. It’s just the way things work in the NFL. You have your job as long as you want it, providing no one better comes along.

    I’m in no way saying that Lofa sucks, or we should get rid of Lofa, or anything else in that manner. What I am saying is we have his replacement…and the last thing I want to see is him leave to get a 3-down job somewhere else.

  9. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I agree with MattandCindy post. Perhaps the best way to prolong his career is to limit his plays. With Heater we can do that!
    I cringe every time I see Lofa take on a runner because I believe he is one or two concussions away from retirement.

  10. Dukeshire says:

    MattandCindy – Many of us would like to think he’s the future at MLB but that has little to do with what Carroll / Schneider may have in mind. Heater’s up at season’s end and it’s hard to imagine they would be willing to pay him starting MLB money (3 down, QB of the defense type money) while Lofa is still on the roster collecting his sizable paychecks. 223 tackles in only 27 starts (the past two seasons) will garner attention across the league as a FA. And consider, he’s only 2 years younger than Lofa (albeit with significantly fewer “miles”) so it’s not as if Seattle can afford to lock him up long term with the idea he’ll become a long term starter in two seasons, at age 28 (presuming that’s about what Lofa has left).

    As I said, he’s in an awkward situation here. If he racks up another 100+ tackles as a 2 down LB this year, Seattle will be have a very difficult decision to make. Can they afford to sign him? Can they afford to simply let him walk? Do they force Lofa out (he’ll not become a “backup”. Not here at least.)? Some of these questions will be answered through the course of the season, but difficult decisions lay ahead.

  11. Dukeshire says:

    “will be” have a very…? Just “will have”. Lol

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    It’s going to get crazy when this lockout ends! As boring as it is right now, we will be up to our heads in news once this lockout ends!
    Can Pete Carroll take advantage of this situation? I think he will.

  13. Soggybuc says:

    I highly agree with Claytons assessment of Alex Smith. the poor kid has spent his entire career in an environment of total chaos.
    What scares me is that Harbaugh just might be the kind of coach that gets him to his full potential.

  14. Lofa’s had both knees scoped since the end of last season (Jan 27), and in ’09 before getting IRd because of the torn pectoral he had the hammy that kept him out some. Lofa had thumb surgery before the start of the ’09 season, and in ’08 had chronic knee and groin issues. In ’07 he had hamstring, oblique and rib issues, in ’06 it was his groin, and in ’05 it was his hamstring. It’s the concussions he got in the playoffs of ’05, and again in ’08 in the week 7 game and then again in the playoffs vs NO last season that’s kinda troubling. He shouldn’t get too many of those things. Love Lofa’s heart, but just not sure how many more years he’s got left(?)

  15. Soggybuc says:

    I love Lofa like i love Brats on the BBQ come game day but i fear his best days are behind him. while Heater may only be best suited for a 2 down role he is damn good at it and stuffing the run putting the O in 3rd and long has huge value.
    The only question is finding someone who can range better in coverage and by drafting KJ i think thats the question Snieder/PC are asking themselves as well.

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