Kipers reaction is expected when you deviate from that which he makes his living.
Seattle didn’t stick to the players on the board. Carpenter over Carimi. Moffitt-eh. And others came completely outta left field, K.J. Wright, Kris Durham.

Hasselbeck = Holmgren and his intermediate WCO short passing game.

Palmer = Carroll and stretch the field.

I’ll give up a second all day every day for Carlson Palmer.

Second = Moffitt, Tate, Unger, Tapp, Wilson .. John Carlson required a second and third.. Doesn’t count =)

Prisco gave an over all B

Kipper is just upset that Seattle didn’t take a QB and every time Seattle was on the clock he was sure that Seattle would take a QB. The team made him look bad.

Why?

Surrounding talent.

I don’t believe that it will be “status quo” with Matt. If we sign Gallery and actually improve every o-line position from last year to this upcoming year (Okung/Gallery/Unger/Moffitt/Carpenter) we are going to have a QB situation set up to actually be successful. Matt has not had a good offensive situation since the Super Bowl year (although pass blocking was good in ’07, when he had to carry the team, and did). Basically, we all watch the games and know that our overall offense has sucked for almost a half decade. The talent isn’t what it is on most good offenses.

I’m sorry if Matt isn’t Tom Brady or Phillip Rivers. I wish he was, too. But he’s not Tavaris Jackson, Trent Edwards, Brian Brohm, or Alex Smith either. He’s above average (all things being equal), but won’t perform like it if his surrounding cast is a top 5 worst offense in the NFL. If I played baseball and I hit 8th in the NL (in front of the pitcher) or hit 2nd in front of Albert Pujols, which would I be better in (Me? I’d suck regardless, but I’d suck less in front of Pujols… lol)? I’m not saying Matt sucks, but I firmly believe (b/c we have watched all the games) that he’s been put in a position to fail b/c of the overall “talent” level on his side of the ball. Same with Charlie against the Giants last year — that poor guy had no chance that day (and all he was asked to do against the Rams was “don’t lose” and we all know he *probably* wouldn’t have MADE the plays against the Saints that led to the win or put the passes on the money against the Bears (that the damn WRs dropped like crazy) that would have given the team a chance.

If you give Matt a superior supporting cast, he’s going to be very good (where others still won’t), especially with his experience/knowledge. If you give him a crappy supporting cast, he’s not going to be great (but still better given the situation than a crappy QB). If you give a guy like T-Jax a superior supporting cast, he’s going to suck, regardless. If Matt had that team (’09 Vikings), they could have won it all (and almost did the year after w/Favre… different circumstances, though).

I simply believe that Matt deserves and should be our QB in ’11.

I respect the fact that you think Charlie should be it next year, too (you’re right, he’s not going to improve as much as he should until he gets his game reps).

We agree to disagree, but we both agree that whoever is QB in ’11 is set up better than any Seahawks QB with surrounding talent in a half decade, right?

He basically said that the Niners knew definitively that they got him one pick before he was going to be taken (we’ll pass on how convenient it is for the Niners F.O. to have such certai knowledge). Who picked after them? The Browns.

Holmy intrigued by the kid from Nevada, and not sold on McCoy? Interesting,

As far as Hass and Dilfer gossip, I understood that they were on the outs a while back, but had had a rapprochement. For what it’s worth, Matt posted something to Twitter last week in memory of the anniversary of Trevin Dilfer passing away, so to me – putting on my forensic hat – that’s reasonable circumstantial evidence that the two were in contact cast week.

Finally, To be honest, none of this “Hasselbeck is gone!” talk making the rounds of the NFL rumors echo chambers worries me too awfully much (I am very much in favor of bringing Matt back – want to see him retire as a Seahawk), even if the origin is a series of conversations Dilfer legitimately had with him.

My take on the Matt negotiations was always that Schneider had a number and number of years in his mind, Matt and David Dunn (as you would expect, given the leverage the playoff performances gave him) wanted more, and that they left it at, “go see what the market will bear, and let’s talk after you put some tangible numbers offered by other teams to that ‘leverage’”. And they were going to end up paying more, giving him more years, or something along those lines – but not by volunteering it.

All this stuff being put out in terms of a definitive statement that Matt is not coming back seems perfectly in keeping with the above dance, to me, because it’s posturing for more leverage.

I mean, why would the outcome of this draft – no QB, OL-heavy – in any way cause Matt to change his mind about coming back? Is the inference that standing pat on the O-line and making sexier skill position picks was what he wanted?

THAT makes no sense, when you think about it,

Now please, please, please, can we get the league year started before June?