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Morning Links: Draft day

Post by Eric Williams on April 28, 2011 at 7:54 am with 35 Comments »
April 28, 2011 10:50 am
NFL Draft prospects stand atop the Radio City Music Hall marquee Wednesday, April 27, 2011, in New York. (AP Photo/Kathy Kmonicek)

Good morning, folks. Draft day is finally here. As usual, we’ll have a live draft chat this afternoon, along with blow-by-blow coverage from the VMAC, so check in throughout the day.

Dave Boling of The News Tribune takes an interesting trip down memory lane, reviewing the Seattle Seahawks’ success in trading down in recent past, which hasn’t resulted in a lot of success stories for the team.

And here’s my Seattle Seahawks’ advance for today’s draft, which includes a list of players selected at No. 25 this past decade, along with some talented players still left on the board after the pick.

Clare Farnsworth of passes along head coach Pete Carroll’s thoughts on this year’s quarterback class, along with what Seattle is looking for in a quarterback.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times has the Seahawks selecting cornerback Jimmy Smith at No. 25.

Draft Analyst Rob Rang gets some more love. Here he’s profiled by local TV station KING 5’s Chris Daniels in the video below, taking a look at how Rang juggles teaching school and working as a draft analyst during this time of year.

Rang polishes up his big board, ranking the top 100 prospects here.

Don Banks of Sports Illustrated has Seattle taking quarterback Andy Dalton, but also says the more likely scenario will be someone trading up to get a quarterback here.

The New York Daily News checks in with NFL beat reporters around the country and team’s best and worst picks. I selected running back Chris Warren as Seattle’s best pick, and quarterback Dan McGwire as the Seahawks’ worst pick.

Sports law professor Michael McMann, writing for Sports Illustrated, does a nice job of answering all of the pertinent questions regarding the lockout. U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson denied the league’s request to stay the lifting of the lockout, and the NFL is supposed to inform teams how to proceed today. That means there is a possibility that players can be included in trades today.

Seahawks player rep Chester Pitts calls league commissioner Roger Goodell a “fraud” and league executive Jeff Pash a “consistent turd” in this audio interview with ESPN 710 Seattle’s Brock Huard and Mike Salk.

Mike Mayock of the NFL Network has the Seahawks selecting North Carolina defensive tackle Marvin Austin at No. 25.

Joey Kaufman of The Daily Trojan writes that Carroll has maintained his connection to Los Angeles, including his commitment to reducing violent crime in the inner-city.

And yes, My Raiders have renamed Oakland-Alameda County Stadium to the ridiculous name of Coliseum. Give me your best shot!

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  1. How long is the first round usually? You see, when the draft starts it’s 2 AM where I live, and I’m going to watch it no matter what, just like to know if I had time to get any sleep at all, since I have to get up a 6:30 AM.

    Anyway, I’m super excited, especially since I still don’t have any idea about who we’ll pick nor who will go number 1 overall, which makes it more interesting. I really hope will provide a free and stable stream, otherwise I hope I can find a Justin.TV stream or something similar to that.

  2. SandpointHawk says:

    Boy the Michael McCann link just made my day….potential chaos to say the least….

  3. yellaman says:

    The name fits the product on the field doesn’t it.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    Very cool piece on Rang, good dude. Look at him sporting the sweater-vest too…! You help him out with his wardrobe for the local TV spot, Eric?

    I’m obviously no legal expert, but from what I can gather, the league won’t actually begin the new year (trades, signings, roster bonuses) until the 8th circuit hears the league’s appeal of Nelson’s ruling on the stay (which should happen in the next day or so). So it seems unlikely there will be any player trades during the draft.

    JacDG – I think the first round will end just in time for you to grab a shower and head off to work. lol. Hopefully teams won’t take all their time between picks.

  5. HawkfaninMT says:

    Curious how some late developments affect the draft…

    How far will Cannon fall with the revealing of his Lymphoma issue? Was projected as a 2nd rounder in most mocks

    How will the late story (for the Milwaukee Journal) affect Jimmy Smith. Will they succeed and get him to fall all the way to 32? Or just far enough to the Hawks at 25! (Fingers crossed)

  6. Teams have 10 minutes for draft picks in the first round (seven minutes in round 2 and 5 minutes for rounds 3 through 7).

    This means that the #25 pick (Seattle) will be about four hours after the draft has started.

  7. You guys hoping for Jimmy Smith are big time gamblers….. Smith is a million dollar athlete with a ten cent head. He is bound to screw up his good fortunes.

  8. Dukeshire says:

    I think one of the more reveling things about Smith, was that Carroll chose not to recruit him out of high school. He was in his backyard and he and UCLA both passed. If he can just stay out of trouble he ought to be great. Big if though…

  9. Just a few thoughts I have –

    1). I think we all know Colin Kapernick will be going in the first round today, at the latest he lasts into the top 5-10 of the second round.

    2). How is this Andy Dalton a 1st round pick? I’m not saying he can’t be an NFL QB, but if I draft a guy number 1, I want to see a guy who has physical tools who can develop into a stud. Otherwise, I’ll just draft someone without tools later.

  10. Dukeshire says:

    I do not know that and would be willing to put a sizable bet down that he will not go in the first. lol

  11. HawkfaninMT says:

    I am not sure how much credence I would put to the story about USC and UCLA not looking at Smith for college. Discounting the coincidence that it came from a newspaper who has an interest in this guy falling to the local team.

    First off if both colleges were not looking at him, it is not simply Pete Carrol choice, it was a broad view of him as a person. I could see if there was a bunch of schools fighting for him, and Pete stated he wanted nothing to do with him. But there was several schools that did not want him.

    Secondly, Pete was looking for different players, with different skill sets and lifestyles when working for USC. College is a very different game than NFL, and some character concerns are weighted differently.

    Lastly, even with these “new” concerns they are from his first couple of years in school. This kid seems like he has grown and matured and is worth the risk IMO. The story paints a picture to me of a kid that grew up in a tough neighborhood that made mistakes. He got a change of scenery by moving to CO, and he brought his lifestyle with him to an extent. He made a couple mistakes but began growing and adjusting and has left that lifestyle behind.


  12. I would be telling a fib if I wasn’t willing to admit that I’m intrigued by Colin Kaepernick. I wouldn’t be intrigued enough to spend a 1st round pick on him though. I can’t wait for tonight.

  13. HawkfaninMT says:

    Yeah I will take some of that action… I dont think he goes in the 1st

  14. Lawrence Phillips.

    I don’t buy that a leopard can change his spots most of the time.

  15. Pete posted two more clues, said they go together.

    Never Say Never by @TheFray
    good Life” by @OneRepublic

    I really hope I remember to go back after the draft, and see if some of the picks matches up.

  16. Dukeshire says:

    HawkfaninMT – I would say that when a blue chip recruit in So Cal is not pursued by either USC or UCLA there is reason for some concern. And in the case of someone like Carroll who prides himself on putting people in supportive environments that allow them to succeed, it’s even more telling to me. Whatever those reason are, I don’t know. The feeling may have been that he needed to get away from home and that environment. Perhaps is was something else.

    In any case, I too talked the other day about how all of Smith’s troubles (and they were / are extensive. More that just a “couple”) happened within his first two years at Colorado. And that he may have in fact matured since then.

    Look, I’m not trying to run the guy down, only raising some points. I’ve been a proponent of Seattle looking at him for a while now because his talent is off the charts. But whoever takes him must proceed with caution, to be sure.

  17. Dukeshire says:

    Here is some very good news. The NFL will allow coaches and teams to hand out playbooks, conduct OTAs and minicamps and open workout facilities and make training staffs available beginning tomorrow morning. Now we’re getting somewhere.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Here is the official NFL statement. They will lay out rules to govern trades, signings etc… tomorrow.

  19. Duke – ok here is what I propose on Colin Kaepernick. If he goes in the first round, I win 2:1. If he goes in the second round I win straight up. If he goes in the third round you win straight up. If he goes in the fourth round, you win 4:1, fifth round 5:1, 6th round 6:1 and 7th round 7:1.

    How does that sound?

  20. Dukeshire says:

    Let me give that some thought. Not too sure I’m excited about waiting until the 4th to get odds, but let me think about it. What are we betting?

  21. Lacanfora was just on NFLN saying Dalton will be a surprise very early 1st rounder. That I found interesting…many of the talking heads are saying that they think there will be a run on qbs early. Thats going to let a gem fall to 25 if we pick there or make the pick more valuable in a trade. IMO

  22. Duke – we’ll keep it small at $10. This one is more for pride.

    I’ll give you 2:1 for third round if you give me 1.5:1 for the second round. Up to you which offer you like better.

  23. Dukeshire says:

    $10 it is. 5:1 for second?! No, no, no. lol. We’ll keep it they way you laid it out originally. 2:1 first. E for second. E to me third. 2:1 me fourth and so on…


  24. Duke, my second offer said 1.5 to 1 (One Point Five to One) for the second round. Do you want the first offer or the second one?

  25. Dukeshire says:

    Oh, I miss read that. No, we’ll keep it simple. The first one, if that’s good by you.

  26. I’m betting a dollar that pabs will win this bet straight up. lol

  27. Dukeshire says:

    I’ll remember that!

  28. ok so the first post I wrote it is. Only 5 hours left!

  29. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    God that piece by Boling on trading down really highlights what an embarrassing draft history we have.

  30. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Kaepernick is not a 1st round talent. Sorry pabs. He’s not better that Dalton ,and Dalton is a stretch for a first round pick (some ‘experts’ even have him in the top 10). I can hardly believe Kaepernick is considered a 2nd rounder. That is a HUGE price to pay for a kid that needs at least–AT LEAST–2 years to learn and develop. Aside form the fact that he’s never played in a pro-style offense he as a screwy throwing motion that is blood in the water for pass rushers to strip the ball from. No thanks on Kaepernick. At least until the 3rd or 4th round.

  31. If Jimmy Smith drops to us at #25 , I think Oakland would trade their Picks #48,#81,#113, and #148 for Smith.

  32. OAK says they want to trade up into the 1st round to get CB J.Smith.

  33. Not sure they’d give all that much though. I’m guessing a dozen draft slot trades. I’d thought PIT would trade with DET to go up and get Pouncey, then DET would trade with SEA to go up and get CB Smith. If JS can get a bidding war it could be a bonanza.

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