Comments on: Morning links: Senior Bowl today

By: klm008

klm008 — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:06:00 +0000

Another thing’s got me scratching my head is why PIT took Maurkice? They’re a man-blocking team aren’t they?

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By: klm008

klm008 — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:41:38 +0000

Rang has Mike Pouncey ranked 35th. If JS has him ranked the same as Rang, taking him at 25 would be “reaching” because he’s in that “10 draft slots or more past the pick number” that people start calling a reach. If JS could swap with whomever was willing to give us another later pick (’11 or ’12) and still be reasonably assured of landing Pouncey, that would be best.

Besides being a very good interior OLer, Pouncey played for the Gators – I know, Urban Meyers spread option offense that doesn’t work in the NFL, with the QB most always in shotgun – but their OL is all about zone blocking. Their OLers can ZB in their sleep. Inside zone, outside zone, zone-read, and counters (incl counter-trey) as well as all their option plays. The main thing is Pouncey is at home with the inside zone run game – which are the majority of the Gators runs, and from multiple interior positions. Beautiful fit.

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By: BobbyK

BobbyK — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:44:28 +0000

If GeorgiaHawk would have taken Pouncey last year, who’s to argue with him? Last I looked, out of Pouncey, Okung, and Thomas, only Pouncey made the Pro Bowl as a rookie. Granted, all three of them have the makings of great players for a long time. If I were starting a team, I like Okung best, but I can flip a coin on Pouncey and Thomas and that’s not a dis to either of those. Rather, it’s a compliment. Since I love great offensive line play before anything, I’d probably take Pouncey over Thomas (but there are certainly no losers in that scenario). It’s sure nice, too, having a FS that I believe in moving forward. We’ve sucked there for so long that this is a welcomed thing as well.

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By: Dukeshire

Dukeshire — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:42:42 +0000

That’s an interesting read, thanks for passing it along.

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By: Sarcasticus

Sarcasticus — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:42:58 +0000

“I wanted us to draft his brother last year.” Did you have him rated higher than Thomas or Okung or were you hoping they would somehow manage a 3rd 1st round pick?

This Locker debate is getting silly. Locker is not in anyway Tebow. Simply because they both were known for running the ball makes them in no way alike. Tebow played in an offense that forced opposing defenses to stop him running. I am not talking about containing his running; I am talking about doing whatever they could to force him to be a passer. The only comparable to Tebow this year would be Newton, and Newton has a much better arm to put the ball down the field with touch.

Locker has great intangibles and maybe with enough coaching he can become a good qb, but his accuracy is not at this time NFL ready.

I find this to be an interesting read and good discussion material. http://dberri.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/and-yet-another-look-at-drafting-quarterbacks-in-the-nfl/

What they find here is what many are finding: “Now we did find that completion percentage in the NFL was statistically related to college completion percentage (although the explanatory power was somewhat low). Completion percentage in college, though, did not predict where a quarterback was taken. And the factors that did predict where a quarterback was taken did not predict future performance. ”

In other words, intangibles got qb’s picked (height was surprisingly one of the most important factors), but few of the reasons for the pick actually helped a qb win.

College completion %

Tom Brady – 62.3
Drew Brees – 61.1
Peyton Manning – 62.85
Ben Roethlisberger – 65.5
Aaron Rodgers – 63.8
Kyle Boller – 48
Ryan Leaf – 54
Jim Drunkenmiller – 54
Jake Locker 53.9

There has been this Rule of 26-27-60 tossed around for a bit that I think warrants more discussion as well.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/27/1958737/a-formula-for-drafting-qbs-that-works-rule-of-26-27-60

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By: Dukeshire

Dukeshire — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:44:23 +0000

klm – The draft will take place even if the current CBA is allowed to expire (March 3rd) and a new one is not reached before the draft begins April 28th. The contracts the players sign will have to conform with the new CBA when one is agreed upon, not the expired one.

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By: GeorgiaHawk

GeorgiaHawk — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:14:00 +0000

It’s great to hear that most of you are on the Pouncey bandwagon. I wanted us to draft his brother last year.

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By: Sarcasticus

Sarcasticus — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:02:35 +0000

In the latest ESPN the Magazine, they were asking some random athletes how well they fight on a 1 – 10 scale with 10 being the highest.

Mike Pouncey – “10. I’ve never lost. To me, that deserves a 10.”

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By: klm008

klm008 — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 03:39:41 +0000

BobbyK-
I like your explaination of why Mike Pouncey didn’t play the Sr Bowl better. Maurkice didn’t play in it since he went pro after his jr yr. Maybe Mike wants it to be called the “Turning Pro” Bowl, instead of the Sr Bowl and’s protesting it by staying home? Who knows?

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By: klm008

klm008 — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 03:15:23 +0000

I’m confused about the rookie salary cap and the new CBA. I’d heard the ’11 draft was included as part of the old CBA, even though it’s after the March 4, 2011 deadline. So, even though a rookie salary cap may occur, won’t it apply to the ’12 draft and not the ’11? Or, is it that the draft will occur, but the signings won’t until the new CBA is done?

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