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Who will replace Jeremy Bates?

Post by Eric Williams on Jan. 18, 2011 at 12:18 pm with 47 Comments »
January 18, 2011 12:19 pm
Former Denver Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels (AP file photo).

While the firing of offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates was a surprising move made by Pete Carroll this morning, head coaches usually don’t let someone go unless they have someone in mind to replace them.

So I would expect an announcement of a new offensive coordinator by Carroll to come quickly.

Here are a few candidates to keep an eye on.

Darrell Bevell – He served as the Vikings offensive coordinator since 2006, and reportedly interviewed for the vacant quarterbacks coach position with Seattle this week. Maybe Carroll liked him so well he would hire him as the offensive coordinator instead? Bevell also worked as a coach for five years in Green Bay from 2000 to 2005, so general manager John Schneider knows him well.

Jim Zorn – If the Seahawks decide to keep Matt Hasselbeck around, this move makes the most sense. He served as Hasselbeck’s quarterback coach for several years and knows what he does best. He already has a good relationship with running backs coach Sherman Smith from their playing days together, and also from their time in Washington. And he knows the West Coast offense well. Zorn currently serves as the quarterbacks coach for Baltimore, but is rumored to be a candidate for the offensive coordinator position in Cleveland because of his close ties to Mike Holmgren.

Brad Childress – He’s part of the Mike Holmgren coaching tree, having served as offensive coordinator in Philadelphia under Andy Reid before taking the head job at Minnesota. Childress currently is being courted by Miami for the offensive coordinator position there.

Josh McDaniels – He struggled with the weighty duties as a head coach in Denver, but still is considered one of the better offensive minds in the game. McDaniels interviewed for the offensive coordinator position in St. Louis vacated by Pat Shurmur, who is now the head coach in Cleveland. But negotiations reportedly hit a snag there. McDaniels has been rumored to be in talks with Seattle since Monday. But he runs a totally different system than the West Coast offense, so there could be a steep learning curve there.

Sherman Smith – He served as offensive coordinator for Jim Zorn at Washington, has an intimate knowledge of the West Coast offense and will know the team’s personnel well after serving for a year as the running backs coach for Seattle this season.

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  1. Assuming it is McDaniels, what does it mean for the QB position going forward – both Hasselbeck and Whitehurst would seem to be in question?

  2. Wonder if they’ll go after Tebow?

  3. Wow, this was a huge surprise, Pete must have someone really special in mind, because he brought in Bates whom he worked at with USC, meaning he must’ve known what he had.

    McDaniels, I don’t know about him, he did a good job at New England, but look at the talent he had there, I’ve always been a fan, but I just don’t know if he’s the right guy at the right time, but I certainly would be excited if a young exciting coach with a lot of experience came to Seattle. I would love to have Zorn back, he’s a great guy, seems like a good coach and was a great player for this franchise. Really, just about anyone but Brad Childress, can’t stand that guy.

  4. I don’t see Childress being a good fit here.

  5. freedom_X says:

    I think that will be a major question (QB position.) I doubt Carroll is going to let the tail wag the dog – if McDaniels says he absolutely has to have a new QB, then either Carroll is already leaning in that direction, or McDaniels doesn’t get hired.

    No way Carroll is thinking “I like my QB’s, but I’ll get rid of them and lay out $$$/draft picks to get the guy McDaniels wants so he’ll come to Seattle.” If there is a deliberate change at the QB positions, it will be because Carroll was already inclining to do so, IMHO.

  6. GeorgiaHawk says:

    How about firing the defensive coordinator?

  7. I think it’s between Bevell and McDaniels because of their experience and track records. This is too important, so Carroll needs to get it right this time, so I don’t see him taking a chance on an unproven guy like Sherman Smith or even Zorn for that matter.

  8. JazBadAzz says:

    Josh is a wizz offensively, absolutely the best hire, look what he did in the short time in Denver the past two years…obviously we are headed towards a new QB and it better not be a trade for Tebow. Let Whitehurst take the reigns and we let Matt walk… he done well but time to go before its a yr to late :)

  9. rramstad says:

    Yeah, you gotta wonder about the timing.

    Seems to me that it might just point to Zorn.

    If Jim had been out to Cleveland and they were hammering out a deal, and some of the guys in the organization were interested in getting Jim back in the building, they might have been pressed for time. Jim certainly has done enough in the league to deserve something better than a QB coach position, but obviously isn’t ready to be a head coach, either.

    I definitely had issues with the play calling this year. It was an improvement over years past — less predictable, and with an emphasis on getting players vertical in the passing game — but the running game was terrible, and I think the lack of consistency in the passing game made it hard to even complete short passes.

  10. Sando presents options here— Interestingly he wonders if McDaniels is playing the Rams against the Seahawks for a better deal with the Rams. Coaching Bradford may be the key.

  11. rramstad says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see the defensive coordinator go, too. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to hit everyone all at once, though, you’d want to have an idea of what direction you were going before axing the existing DC. IMHO it’s probable that something was heating up with one of the better OC candidates which forced our hand… conversely, we might be looking at defensive staff from one of the teams in the conference championships, and we can’t even talk to them right now without it being a major distraction, so we sit tight on the DC front.

  12. HawkfaninMT says:

    @ rramstad…

    If thats the case don’t you think the Hawks would have made a run at McDermott?

  13. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Please! No Zorn!

  14. BobbyAyala says:

    Honestly, there’s only one man to lead this offense.


    Call me, Pete.

  15. Schefter says the Seahawks are trying to get Jed Fisch back from the U to serve as OC.

  16. hawkfan777 says:

    McDaniels must be the o-coordinator of the Seahawks future. Why else would talks stall with the Rams and the Seahawks fire Bates within a two hour period. I would be shocked if Fisch was hired to be OC.

    I also heard a rumor that the Hawks are talking to Cable. I wonder if that is true? It wouldnt be for OC but two former head coaches. Interesting….

  17. HawkfaninMT says:

    What would Cable do? We already have 2 OL coaches that haven’t been fired…. Did Cable even call the plays? I feel like Al didn’t let him. Maybe DL coach if he has any knowledge there I suppose?

    His hiring may help bring in Aso though!

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Great day in the morning! I find myself… Giddy! Does this mean no more 3rd and short fade routes?

    I can’t see Childress either. His personality is awfully combative. Both in Philly and as HC in Minn. I wouldn’t mind McDaniels off that list. Granted he had both Brady and Moss in NE to work with, but he put together one hell of an offense there. I imagine he’d have no problem with “10-12 play drives” that Bates admitted were difficult.

  19. Cable as in Tom Cable of the Raiders? You gotta be kidding!

  20. I like Tom Cable, I think he did a good job when in Oakland all things considered (the continued growing insanity of Al Davis being one) I like Cable’s mentality as well, but don’t think he’s going here.

    Hopefully something interesting will happen during the night (i.e during the day in the States) would love to have something to read in the morning, who knows, maybe Carroll surprises everyone and some crazy name will be the new OC.

  21. How about getting Sark to be SEA’s OC? That way when we land Locker at #25 he’ll hae had a few year’s experience already in the system?

  22. Please no crazy names or surprises.

    Another miscue at OC would be a very bad thing and a big setback for Carroll and the Seahawks.

    Remember the emphasis on building a staff to work well together? That’s why Childress and Cable are out. Zorn skipped being an OC, so he doesn’t have enough experience in that role. Neither does Sherman Smith or Jedd Fisch.

    Think McDaniels and Bevell have to be the two most likely candidates at this point.

  23. Man. McDaniels is an ass. I can’t stand that dude. Or is it just spurned by my irrational hatred of the Broncos?

    BUT…if he really is the genius people say he is, I don’t really care if he’s an ass or not. Think carroll could get the best out of him?

  24. Btw, if anything about this has anything to do with Tebow in a ‘Hawks uniform I will stick my effing finger in my throat.

  25. Would Zorn be a good QB coach for our next QB? We gotta get the new ‘franchise’ QB this upcoming season.

  26. McDaniels asst videoed SF practice in London. $50K fine.

  27. OT: Are SF’s HC Jim Harbaugh and BAL’s HC John Harbaugh related?

  28. They’re brothers.

  29. GriffinNW says:

    Klm- yes.

  30. So, maybe Zorn might have some idea of how Jim Harbaugh coaches?

  31. HarbachHawk says:

    Guys I gotta hunch on this. Hawks are gunna hire McDaniels, McDaniels pushes to bring in Kyle Orton who is no longer wanted in Denver……writing is on the wall for my boy Matthew. Id love to see Matt resigned, but I just got this hunch……But as usual, I got nothin to go on besides a hunch.

  32. please Joe say it ain’t so. Not a Guy named Josh Mcdaniels. We might as well see if Jim Mora will come back as Defensive Coordinator

  33. How abput Bret Favre as an Offensive Coordinator?

  34. Dukeshire says:

    “So, maybe Zorn might have some idea of how Jim Harbaugh coaches?”

    Because Zorn has been the QB coach for John Harbaugh’s Ravens (for 1 season), he has insight into his brother’s coaching philosophy? With due respect, he would be able to offer nothing in that regard simply by being a subordinate of Jim’s brother. Carroll knows plenty about about Jim from 2 seasons at Stanford while Carroll was at USC.

  35. Mort says: “McDaniels to Rams as offensive coordinator is now a done deal”

    I think the OC is going to be the old QB coach, Fisch, who was supposed to go to University of Miami as the OC.

  36. Darrell Bevell would be a good choice. I’d be okay with Jim Zorn too. But my first choice is Bevell.

    Crybaby Josh? Please, no.

    Jed Fisch was a worthless pile of dung when he was the Gophers offensive coordinator in ’09. I saw him belittle, in person, some of his players on the sidelines like an immature fool at the Gophers-Illinois game (and not like an intense motivator… a 3-year old tantrum). I never really knew anything about him until that moment and that moment defined himself into my memory as a douche. One good thing about him coaching the Seahawks offense and having coached the Gophers offense — the talent he has to work with mostly would suck (Eric Decker got hurt last year and that really hurt him too).

  37. Dukeshire says:

    Here’s a link that seems to confirm that McDaniels is now a Ram.

  38. I would be disappointed with we hired Jedd Fisch instead of McDaniels or another top tier OC.

  39. Anyone else sick of different offensive coordinators every year?

    Build an offensive line so the offense wouldn’t suck so bad!!!

    I could give a crap less who the offensive coordinator is… give them an offensive line that can go more than two games with decent run blocking and you might be onto something (instead of having a different OC every damn year). Get someone who can drive block someone forward so we can actually call a run play with some confidence in short yardage situations. *Although its credit, the pass blocking was more than I expected this past season.

  40. A bad hire at OC could really handicap this team and potentially help lead to Carroll’s demise.

    Be worried, very worried.

    We need a PROVEN OC who can take charge and hit the ground running. I’m strongly against hiring a guy like Fisch who has a sketchy track record and very little experience coaching at a high level.

    I would be concerned to a lesser extent if we hired Zorn.

    Let’s keep our fingers crossed that we bring in Bevell or someone of his background and experience.

  41. Dukeshire says:

    “Anyone else sick of different offensive coordinators every year?”

    Perhaps but both Knapp and Bates were both terrible (albeit in different ways). There is no question a consistent o line is important, but you can’t tell me that despite the failing of the o line, the past two season Seattle fielded an offense that was consistently prepared and had consistently sound playcalling.

  42. Bevell? Why so?

  43. Hmm…if it’s Zorn do you think we might see a pass or two from Mare, just for nostalgia’s sake? ;)

  44. SteelBlueLime says:

    “Let’s hope we bring in Bevell or someonewith his background and experience.” – Agreed!

  45. nighthawk2 says:

    Looks like McDaniels is signing with the Rams and used other teams as leverage to get the money he wanted. If Zorn is going to Cleveland then I’d say either Bevell or Sherm Smith. Carroll is really considering going to the WCO? I’d love to have Zorn here as both QB coach and OC. Smith would be going to back to the old Seahawk roots, I’m old enough to remember well seeing him play here. I see we play the NFC North next year (presuming there is a season). Zorn with the Browns (maybe) and Holmy in a suite, playing the Seahawks (and maybe Sherman Smith as OC), that would really be something special. Not to mention the former Rams OC as the Browns new head coach. Old home week.

  46. With Bradford & a good oc, the Rams are going to be good soon, as are SF if they get a QB. I see AZ as divisional doormat for a couple years.

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