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		<title>By: Sarcasticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarcasticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Or a quarterback that can&#039;t throw the ball more than 20 yards downfield.&quot;

This is hyperbole bordering on the stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or a quarterback that can&#8217;t throw the ball more than 20 yards downfield.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is hyperbole bordering on the stupid.
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		<title>By: Dukeshire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dukeshire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are the same guy that complained about play-calling several times throughout the season, no?  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the same guy that complained about play-calling several times throughout the season, no?  <img src='http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: nighthawk2</title>
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		<dc:creator>nighthawk2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why blame Bates for the lack of receivers with good hands?&quot;

Or a quarterback that can&#039;t throw the ball more than 20 yards downfield. 

This sounds a bit like scapegoating to me. That&#039;s what Andy Reid did to his DC Sean McDermott, instead of admitting the Eagles just weren&#039;t really that good and their DL is overrated. But yeah, I&#039;d like to see Gus Bradley get the ax. Said from the get-go that keeping any of Mora&#039;s coaches was a mistake, now Quinn is gone. One down, one to go. Mora is going to be the Broncos DC? Gawd I wish we played them next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why blame Bates for the lack of receivers with good hands?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or a quarterback that can&#8217;t throw the ball more than 20 yards downfield. </p>
<p>This sounds a bit like scapegoating to me. That&#8217;s what Andy Reid did to his DC Sean McDermott, instead of admitting the Eagles just weren&#8217;t really that good and their DL is overrated. But yeah, I&#8217;d like to see Gus Bradley get the ax. Said from the get-go that keeping any of Mora&#8217;s coaches was a mistake, now Quinn is gone. One down, one to go. Mora is going to be the Broncos DC? Gawd I wish we played them next year.
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		<title>By: bronze</title>
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		<dc:creator>bronze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shocker.  YES.  But management makes their decisions on the previous 4 qtrs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shocker.  YES.  But management makes their decisions on the previous 4 qtrs.
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		<title>By: nidhighe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nidhighe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bates wasn&#039;t out there failing at run blocking or dropping passes. His aggressive playcalling against the Saints were part of the reason we won. This is a baffling decision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bates wasn&#8217;t out there failing at run blocking or dropping passes. His aggressive playcalling against the Saints were part of the reason we won. This is a baffling decision.
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		<title>By: Cornutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Master Bates&quot;

Hehehe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Master Bates&#8221;</p>
<p>Hehehe.
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		<title>By: GeorgiaHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgiaHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow the way that the media was talking about Bates after the Saints win made you think that Master Bates was the talk of the town!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow the way that the media was talking about Bates after the Saints win made you think that Master Bates was the talk of the town!
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		<title>By: klm008</title>
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		<dc:creator>klm008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rotoworld sez Hawks OC&#039;s gonna be Josh McDaniels!(?)  How real is that?  That&#039;s not a simple move - from Bates to McDaniels.  

1st thing McDaniels did was end DEN&#039;s ZBing OL (which could be a good thing for SEA (?) - especially at a time when so many OLers are FAs).  Also interesting that John Fox is s&#039;posed to be bringing their OL blocking scheme back to ZBing - trading partner?  By Football Outsiders DVOA stats http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff DEN ranked 15th in overall offense (compared to SEA&#039;s 29th rank.)  DEN&#039;s running ranked 30th in &#039;10 (with Knowshon Moreno, C.Buckhalter, L.Ball &amp; L.Maroney) and 22nd in &#039;09.  SEA&#039;s rushing ranked 28th in &#039;10.  Changing their blocking scheme must have hurt DEN some(?)  Does SEA go back to man-blocking?  SEA can&#039;t get much worse at run blocking as it is.

With Kyle Orton as their starting QB and with Tim Tebow starting when Orton got hurt vs Jay Cutler, and with 6-0/194 Brandon Lloyd in lieu of 6-4/230 Brandon Marshall, DEN&#039;s passing ranked 9th (C.Weiss-type offense, sim to Pats).  SEA&#039;s passing ranked 29th.  DEN&#039;s better passing wasn&#039;t due to better OL pass-pro either, SEA&#039;s OL allowed 35 sacks, DEN&#039;s OL allowed 40.  DEN did it with scheme.  Maybe SEA&#039;s passing game will improve with the WRs we already have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rotoworld sez Hawks OC&#8217;s gonna be Josh McDaniels!(?)  How real is that?  That&#8217;s not a simple move &#8211; from Bates to McDaniels.  </p>
<p>1st thing McDaniels did was end DEN&#8217;s ZBing OL (which could be a good thing for SEA (?) &#8211; especially at a time when so many OLers are FAs).  Also interesting that John Fox is s&#8217;posed to be bringing their OL blocking scheme back to ZBing &#8211; trading partner?  By Football Outsiders DVOA stats <a href="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff"  rel="nofollow" class="comment-link">http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff</a> DEN ranked 15th in overall offense (compared to SEA&#8217;s 29th rank.)  DEN&#8217;s running ranked 30th in &#8217;10 (with Knowshon Moreno, C.Buckhalter, L.Ball &amp; L.Maroney) and 22nd in &#8217;09.  SEA&#8217;s rushing ranked 28th in &#8217;10.  Changing their blocking scheme must have hurt DEN some(?)  Does SEA go back to man-blocking?  SEA can&#8217;t get much worse at run blocking as it is.</p>
<p>With Kyle Orton as their starting QB and with Tim Tebow starting when Orton got hurt vs Jay Cutler, and with 6-0/194 Brandon Lloyd in lieu of 6-4/230 Brandon Marshall, DEN&#8217;s passing ranked 9th (C.Weiss-type offense, sim to Pats).  SEA&#8217;s passing ranked 29th.  DEN&#8217;s better passing wasn&#8217;t due to better OL pass-pro either, SEA&#8217;s OL allowed 35 sacks, DEN&#8217;s OL allowed 40.  DEN did it with scheme.  Maybe SEA&#8217;s passing game will improve with the WRs we already have?
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		<title>By: mattersnot1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why blame Bates for the lack of receivers with good hands?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why blame Bates for the lack of receivers with good hands?
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		<title>By: freedom_X</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can it be that McDaniels preferred to come to Seattle (which would explain why the St. Louis talks blew up?) Or is it the other way around (Seattle is McDaniels&#039; rebound from the St. Louis breakdown?)

If two completely independent coaches have confidence in Bradley, I&#039;d say there&#039;s something positive about the guy. I think he is viewed as a bright, capable person who still needs seasoning. That&#039;s why two primarly defensive oriented head coaches have brought him on as coordinator. The defenses still primarily are the product of Carroll&#039;s philosophies, with Bradley implementing them and doing most of the hands-on work. It&#039;s the same deal as Holmgren bringing on Pat Shurmur in Cleveland. Shurmur probably is not quite experienced enough to be a head coach for most situations, but with Holmgren to guide and assist, he can learn on the job and grow into the role. 

Clearly Carroll and Mora independently thought Bradley has that growth potential, and I don&#039;t think Carroll brings in a highly experienced D-coordinator that doesn&#039;t mesh with his own defensive philosophies, the same way Holmgren searched for someone that aligned with his offensive philosophies.

Where there&#039;s smoke though there&#039;s fire - is there more of a story behind the high assistant turnover rate? Especially from a 7-9 team?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can it be that McDaniels preferred to come to Seattle (which would explain why the St. Louis talks blew up?) Or is it the other way around (Seattle is McDaniels&#8217; rebound from the St. Louis breakdown?)</p>
<p>If two completely independent coaches have confidence in Bradley, I&#8217;d say there&#8217;s something positive about the guy. I think he is viewed as a bright, capable person who still needs seasoning. That&#8217;s why two primarly defensive oriented head coaches have brought him on as coordinator. The defenses still primarily are the product of Carroll&#8217;s philosophies, with Bradley implementing them and doing most of the hands-on work. It&#8217;s the same deal as Holmgren bringing on Pat Shurmur in Cleveland. Shurmur probably is not quite experienced enough to be a head coach for most situations, but with Holmgren to guide and assist, he can learn on the job and grow into the role. </p>
<p>Clearly Carroll and Mora independently thought Bradley has that growth potential, and I don&#8217;t think Carroll brings in a highly experienced D-coordinator that doesn&#8217;t mesh with his own defensive philosophies, the same way Holmgren searched for someone that aligned with his offensive philosophies.</p>
<p>Where there&#8217;s smoke though there&#8217;s fire &#8211; is there more of a story behind the high assistant turnover rate? Especially from a 7-9 team?
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