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Personnel Review – NFC WC vs. New Orleans

Post by Eric Williams on Jan. 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm with 24 Comments »
January 10, 2011 12:05 pm

Editor’s note: Brian McIntyre regularly covers the Seattle Seahawks and the rest of the NFL on his own football blog, and has graciously agreed to provide his weekly personnel files on the Seahawks here each week. We welcome him to Seahawks Insider.

Brian McIntyre blogs daily at Mac’s Football Blog. You can follow Brian on Twitter, and if you’d like to e-mail him, you can always do so by clicking here.

Also, check out McIntyre’s personnel breakdown of the first Seahawks-Bears contest right here.

Offensive Personnel Groupings

Excluding penalties, the Seahawks ran 61 offensive plays out of six personnel groupings against the New Orleans Saints on Saturday afternoon.

Group Name Pass Run Total Pass% Run%
0 RB, 5 WR, 0 TE “00” 4 0 4 100.0% 0.0%
1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE “11” 8 3 11 72.7% 27.3%
2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE “21” 4 9 13 30.8% 69.2%
2 RB, 3 WR “20” 7 2 9 77.8% 22.2%
1 RB, 2 WR, 2 TE “12” 11 3 14 78.6% 21.4%
2 RB, 1 WR, 2 TE “22” 2 8 10 20.0% 80.0%
Total 36 25 61 59.0% 41.0%

Seattle opened the game with the 5-WR personnel grouping, a look they hadn’t shown in 2010, but used once per quarter against New Orleans.

Matt Hasselbeck Passing on Saturday (By Personnel Grouping)

Hasselbeck Com Att % Yards LG TD INT Sacks Yds Rating
“00” 3 4 75.0% 23 15 0 0 0 0 88.5
“11” 4 8 50.0% 97 45 2 0 0 0 133.9
“21” 2 4 50.0% 22 12 0 1 0 0 27.1
“20” 4 6 66.7% 49 18 0 0 1 -6 91.2
“12” 7 11 63.6% 63 39 0 0 0 0 78.9
“22” 2 2 100.0% 18 11 2 0 0 0 143.8
Total 22 35 62.9% 272 45 4 1 1 -6 113.0

Seahawks Rushing on Sunday (By Personnel Grouping)

Rushing Att Yds Avg LG TD
“11” 3 17 5.7 7 0
“21” 9 103 11.4 67 1
“20” 2 7 3.5 6 0
“12” 3 8 2.7 4 0
“22” 8 14 1.8 8 0
Totals 25 149 6.0 67 1

All nine runs out of “21” personnel had Marshawn Lynch and Michael Robinson in the backfield in either an I- or Offset-I formation, including the now legendary 67-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter. Five of those nine runs gained six or more yards. It’s worth noting that the first time the Seahawks played the Saints, Michael Robinson was out with a hamstring injury, and John Carlson was used in a fullback-type role.
Snap Counts (Offense)

Player Plays Total %
6-C.Whitehurst 0 61 0.0%
7-J.Losman 0 61 0.0%
8-M.Hasselbeck 61 61 100.0%
15-B.Stokley 24 61 39.3%
17-M.Williams 59 61 96.7%
20-J.Forsett 24 61 39.3%
24-M.Lynch 31 61 50.8%
26-M.Robinson 24 61 39.3%
33-L.Washington 9 61 14.8%
63-C.White 0 61 0.0%
64-M.Gibson 61 61 100.0%
65-C.Spencer 61 61 100.0%
73-W.Robinson 0 61 0.0%
75-S.Locklear 61 61 100.0%
76-R.Okung 61 61 100.0%
77-S.Andrews 0 61 0.0%
78-T.Polumbus 61 61 100.0%
81-G.Tate 5 61 8.2%
82-R.Martin 10 61 16.4%
87-B.Obomanu 46 61 75.4%
88-C.Morrah 24 61 39.3%
89-J.Carlson 48 61 78.7%

– Forsett was the single-back on 10 of the 11 plays run out of “11” personnel, and eight of the nine plays out of “20” personnel.

– Lynch and Robinson were the two backs in “21” personnel.

– Seven of Washington’s nine snaps were in “20” personnel.

– 20 of Stokley’s 24 snaps were in 3+-WR packages.

– Williams played in all but two snaps, both using “22” personnel, on Saturday.

– Tate was in on all four of the 5-WR sets and picked up an additional snap in “21” personnel.

– Eight of Martin’s 10 snaps were in 3+-WR groupings. Martin and Stokley were in the slot on 32 of their 34 combined snaps.

– Obomanu played 40 of his 46 snaps with a dislocated right shoulder.

– Even with Chris Baker on IR, Seattle still used two tight ends on 39.3% of the offensive snaps on Saturday. One change was Morrah and Carlson were kept in-line, with Morrah flexed off the line of scrimmage or split wide on six of his 24 snaps.
Defensive Personnel Groupings

Excluding penalties, the Seahawks defense was on the field for a staggering 83 plays on Saturday.

Package Pass Run Total Pass% Run%
Base 19 17 36 52.8% 47.2%
Nickel 21 5 26 80.8% 19.2%
Bandit 20 0 20 100.0% 0.0%
5*3*3 1 0 1 100.0% 0.0%
Total 61 22 83 73.5% 26.5%

Against Seattle’s “Bandit” package, Drew Brees completed 12-of-19 pass attempts for 193 yards and a touchdown. The Seahawks’ one quarterback sack on Sunday came out of 3-man rush out of “Bandit” personnel. Brees was 13-of-21 for 97 yards against Seattle’s nickel packages, 13-of-19 for 113 yards against the Seahawks’ base defense, and 1-for-1 with a 1-yard touchdown on a bootleg against Seattle’s short-yardage defense.

The Saints exploited the Seahawks nickel package on the ground, gaining 26 yards on 5 carries, each gaining between 4 and 6 yards. Julius Jones’ first touchdown came when the Seahawks were in nickel on a 3rd-and-4 play from the Seahawks 5-yard line. Against Seattle’s base defense, the Saints had 17 carries for 59 yards and a touchdown. 11 of those carries gained 3 yards of less.
Defensive Player Snap Count

Player Plays Total %
21-K.Jennings 82 83 98.8%
23-M.Trufant 79 83 95.2%
27-J.Babineaux 48 83 57.8%
28-W.Thurmond 22 83 26.5%
29-E.Thomas 83 83 100.0%
31-K.Chancellor 20 83 24.1%
36-L.Milloy 83 83 100.0%
39-K.Cox 0 83 0.0%
51-L.Tatupu 71 83 85.5%
52-M.McCoy 0 83 0.0%
54-W.Herring 28 83 33.7%
57-D.Hawthorne 47 83 56.6%
58-D.Davis 4 83 4.8%
59-A.Curry 62 83 74.7%
90-C.Cole 40 83 48.2%
91-C.Clemons 73 83 88.0%
92-B.Mebane 57 83 68.7%
93-C.Terrill 25 83 30.1%
94-J.Siavii 0 83 0.0%
95-K.Balmer 20 83 24.1%
98-R.Brock 65 83 78.3%
99-J.Richardson 4 83 4.8%

– Jennings only came off the field for the one short-yardage play in the 1st quarter.

– Trufant was not on the field for the short-yardage play, and missed three more snaps in the third quarter.

– Babineaux was in for all nickel and “Bandit” plays, as well as the short-yardage play and a snap in a heavy base defense look on the 4th-and-1 stop in the 3rd quarter.

– Thurmond worked the slot in “Bandit” and replaced Trufant for a few snaps in nickel defense in the third quarter.

– Chancellor’s snaps were as a safety in “Bandit”.

– Thomas and Milloy logged 100% of the snaps on Saturday.

– Tatupu missed the last 12 snaps with a concussion.

– Herring’s snaps included all 26 nickel plays and two in base defense.

– Hawthorne played 37 snaps in base and short-yardage, 1 snap in nickel, and 9 snaps as the middle linebacker in “Bandit” in the fourth quarter.

– Davis spelled Brock and Clemons in nickel and “Bandit” packages.

– Curry logged 37 snaps at linebacker, and 25 as an inside rusher in nickel and “Bandit”.

– Cole played the nose in 32 of the 36 base defense snaps.

– Mebane (24) and Terrill (12) played the “3” technique in base defense, and split snaps inside in nickel (Mebane 18, Terrill 8) packages.

– Balmer was the “5” technique on 19 snaps, with Richardson’s four snaps all coming as the “5” technique in base defense.

– Clemons (16) and Brock (7) split the “Leo” duties, and were paired together on 13 of 36 base defense snaps, the first of which was Brock’s forced fumble on Jones at the Saints’ 19-yard line.

Brian McIntyre blogs daily about the NFL over at Mac’s Football Blog. You can follow Brian on Twitter, and if you’d like to e-mail him, you can always do so by clicking here.
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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Terrill plays in the sunglass package, apparently. lol

    They did a nice job of mixing up base and nickel. I’d expect them to feature nickel primarily against the Bears, much like week 6.

    It’s no accident, BTW, that this defense is playing much better with more snaps from Brock than Balmer, even in base sets.

  2. What I want to know is how they collect all this data?!

  3. BrianHawk says:

    @Audible I believe they sit there and take notes themselves, I know some reporters do this with printouts that make it easier to fill in for each snap (so they can fill in the columns without writing out “bandit” or whatever).

  4. Dukeshire says:

    That’s exactly right, not unlike keeping score in baseball. And of course, got to re-watch the game and take notes. It’s a bit tedious but great info.

  5. They do that for 16 games each week…wow, talk about dedication!

  6. GeorgiaHawk says:

    The defense is playing much better primarily because Cole and Mebane are getting healthy!

  7. Do these guys sell this information to teams? I’m wondering what the market is for that kind of information because it’s pretty expensive to compile.

    Do the odds makers get into that much detail when analyzing match-ups?

    We know most of the bobble-head sportscasters don’t spend a lot of time…half the time, they’re doing good if they can just pronounce the names on a roster.

  8. Dukeshire says:

    Audible – I don’t know that McIntyre does this for the rest of the league. He may, although I don’t believe so. But yes, these personnel breakdowns are available out there for all the teams.

    Bookmakers have some crazy complex algorithms they use to determine lines, spreads, odds, etc… that are not necessarily personnel related, as far as Xs and Os go. Their information and strategies are mathematically driven, for the most part. But they too have every piece of information one could imagine or ever want regarding teams and their histories and tendencies.

    But remember, bookmakers and coaches have very different objectives. Coaches acquire info in an attempt to beat their opponent. The oddsmakers are simply trying to get as much money out of the betting public they possibly can. Nothing more.

    A good friend of mine is very close to a “consultant” for Billy Walters down in Vegas. Walters is one of the biggest sports betters in the world. The things he knows about teams (especially college basketball) and their tendencies is freakish. It makes this “cute” little chart above so very quaint. lol.

  9. Dukeshire says:

    While we’re on the subject; Hawks -10 and +400 on the money line. Although their odds to win the Super Bowl has come down to 60:1.

  10. I remember reading an interview with Bill Belichick a long time ago, talking about how he started his career in football as a young man. He was the guy who stayed up all night after the game charting the formations off the coaches film, then breaking down the film (yes, they used actual film) into separate canisters for each of the assistant coaches to have it ready for them by morning. They say he earned a reputation as being obsessive about his work from day one.

    A little easier these days with DVRs :-) but they did all this stuff with film at one time. I think we take today’s technology for granted sometimes… as I sit here reviewing plays on nfl game rewind. :-)

  11. Thanks for the info, guys!

  12. Dukeshire says:

    Stevos – I’ve read about that too. He was living with his grandmother because he wasn’t making enough to get a place of his own, working for the Baltimore Colts. I believe he was making like $30 a week.

  13. GeorgiaHawk says:

    These personnel grouping stats are interesting however wouldn’t they be more useful if we knew what the other teams personnel groupings are?

    And why would the team need an outside source for this information?
    I am sure they have plenty of game tape and the staff to figure this out.

  14. Charlie,Charlie, Charlie, I mean ummmm……..
    All the Hawk haters can suck our D…..Ks.
    Damn, that ish was crazy on Saturday, wish I was there, wow.
    I think Chi town is in trouble. Beast Mode baby, finally, that run was too sic. Go Hass. We go as far as he takes us. On the idea of resigning of him though, I have my reservations, but for now, we need to ride his ass.
    Go Hawks.

  15. yakimahawk says:

    Anybody watch PC’s presser today? I am wondering about Obu’s injury and what is his outlook for the CHI game?

  16. Duke – to answer your question, it was BetonUSA. The going rate was 100:1 but they were offering 150:1.

  17. freedom_X says:

    Lofa will still need to pass the concussion medical tests though. Since Carroll is optimistic on Obomanu’s injury, I’d feel more confident about him playing.

    I hope Okung’s ankles are ready to go – Peppers is looking for the rematch and I’m sure Peppers has read plenty about how Okung “handled’ him. He should’t lack motivation.

    If Seattle’s D can patch up a few of those blown coverages, I will feel really good about their chances.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    GeorgiaHawk – Perhaps. But to the casual fan, I think this gives a very nice frame to the game stats. Analysis can always be taken to more detail but we can learn a lot about how the Seahawks approach opposing teams.

  19. Dukeshire says:

    pabuwal – 150:1 was the going line in Vegas as well. Offshore lines are usually a bit different. The Hilton and Caesars are +10 Hawks but you can get 11 at a few offshore spots. I use BetUS.

    That’s good to hear Carroll is optimistic about Obo.

  20. I wonder if those stats analyzed over the course of several games, would make it easier for opponents to predict play called during live games.

    For instance, “00” and “12” seem to telegraph pass, while “22” is usually a run. It would be fun to see a graph over the 1st 17 games (Eric!) that shows the trends. C’mon man, Sando would do it! lol

  21. Dukeshire says:

    Well, here’s the mid-season breakdown. I’m certain McIntyre will have the season in it’s entirety soon.

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