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Morning links: Hawks starting QB up in the air

Post by Eric Williams on Dec. 30, 2010 at 8:46 am with 38 Comments »
December 30, 2010 8:46 am
Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck and general manager John Schneider talk during Wednesday's practice (Joe Barrentine/TNT).

Dave Boling of The News Tribune wonders if the Seattle Seahawks have a good option at quarterback on Sunday between an inexperienced Charlie Whitehurst or a beat up Matt Hasselbeck.

Boling:

“In 15 games, those two have combined for 13 touchdown passes in 508 attempts (their opponents have 31 TD passes). They have a combined 71.2 passer rating (their opponents’ collective 92.1 rating is higher than the performances that Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan needed to get Pro Bowl berths).

“Whitehurst directed the No. 1 unit in practice Wednesday, but Hasselbeck was on the hoof, in sweats, and throwing the ball around a little bit.

“Carroll keeps stressing that Whitehurst is the starter this week but continues to leave the door ajar for Hasselbeck, making it sound as if Carroll will have to drive a stake through Hasselbeck’s heart to keep him on the sideline.”

Rookie offensive tackle Russell Okung has hobbled his way through is rookie year, and won’t heal from two, high-ankle sprains until the offseason.

Brock Huard of ESPN 710 Seattle offers a closer look at a third quarter play against Tampa Bay where a green Whitehurst shows his inexperience.

St. Louis Rams defensive end Chris Long talks about the Crowd noise at Qwest Field and getting flexed into the Sunday night game in this video link.

Doug Farrar of Sportpressnw.com writes that Sam Bradford might be the best of a new breed of quarterback entering the league.

Tim Booth of the Associated Press writes about Seattle’s comeback duo, Mike Williams and Leon Washington.

Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says this game is worthy of prime time.

NFL Playbook takes a closer look at the St. Louis Rams in this video link.

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  1. SeahawkFan12 says:

    “Carroll keeps stressing that Whitehurst is the starter this week but continues to leave the door ajar for Hasselbeck, making it sound as if Carroll will have to drive a stake through Hasselbeck’s heart to keep him on the sideline.”

    Hasselbeck has always been a warrior and a leader, there is no question about that. Part of me wonders if this is more a smokescreen to confuse the game-planning of the Rams than it is an actual “controversy’.

  2. Dukeshire says:

    Huard sure takes the longest route possible to make his point that CW is rushing his reads. Just spit it out Brock. He makes a good point though and hopefully CW will be quick without hurrying on Sunday.

  3. I just don’t see how we can win this game. Offensively and defensively, we have nothing to be excited about. The only hope is that it’s at Qwest.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    That could be part of it, but I think CW’s preparation is legit. While I do think there is a pretty good chance Matt will go on Sunday, CW needs to be ready to play in the very likely event Matt can’t play the whole game (in the event he does start). And of course if Matt can’t go, he needs to have spent the week preparing as though he was the starter.

    Either way, I’m looking forward to seeing him play under these circumstances, with the pressure of a playoff spot on the line.

  5. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Duke, I agree. We’ll see what CW is made of Sunday night. I’m hoping Matt can play and play well, though.

  6. How can we really judge CW when he plays in a game here and there. He needs 3-6 games to get a better understanding if he can really play. Do I think Hass gives us the better chance yes because of his experience, is CW the better qb overall yes. I hope CW starts I want him to play in a game that actually means something. If CW starts it will be good experience in a playoff spot on the line. If Hass starts I will be fine ad well. I think it is a win win situation for us we win we go to the playoffs If we lose we get a 10-15 pick in the draft. I hope we win the game though, it would be good experience for the team.

  7. seahawklovertoo says:

    Next draft is not nearly as deep as last years (2010) as far as the talent goes. I believe Caroll wants USC’ QB Barkley who might not come out that early (but, who knows).So, who ever wins this comming NFCW Championship game will really lose on the long run. Falling seven or, more spots on “thin” draft is to much to give away for a game that only has bragging rights value. ( Myself, I am bragger/sore loser type and I like to win at all regardless of cost . I wish we schtump the Lambs but, it wont break my heart if we lose and we draft a good QB or, Alabamas’ RB Engram )
    Whatever happens this Sunday— we can’t lose.
    GO HAWKS !

  8. hawkfan777 says:

    seahawklovertoo,

    I understand your thought process but a win is very important. This team needs to learn to win again. I would much rather have a lower pick and win the division. If the Rams win I could honestly see them win the division the next several years. A win by the Seahawks could kill the Rams momentum.

  9. David Garrard and MJD will be out for the Jaguars against the Texans on Sunday. It is very possible the Seahawks end up with the number 7 draft pick if they lose vs number 21 if they win.

    If this were the 1986, 1990 or the 2001 teams I would say go for the win and make some noise in the playoffs, especially since I have been calling for the first 7-9 division title in NFL history since Week 2.

    But this isn’t any of those teams, its a team on the verge of allowing either the most points or second most points in franchise history with a mess of a QB situation.

  10. I think Matt will play or at least start the game.I as a 12th man do not like this talk of if we lose a better draft pick will be nice.I really hope the FANS bring it full force,it seems many have accepted the defeat already.I am worried the crowd won’t be into it as much as they normally would be.This is for a playoff game! come on! GO HAWKS

  11. “If this were the 1986, 1990 or the 2001 teams I would say go for the win and make some noise in the playoffs, especially since I have been calling for the first 7-9 division title in NFL history since Week 2.

    But this isn’t any of those teams, its a team on the verge of allowing either the most points or second most points in franchise history with a mess of a QB situation.”

    You make a fair point there. Since we all know that they are going to try and win it; I’m just going to look at this as a win-win; either we make the playoffs and get that experience under the belts of a lot of our guys, and take it as some momentum in a rebuild year, or we lose, and get the higher pick.

    There was a good piece by the St. Louis newspaper writer, basically saying that of the four teams in the NFC West, only the Niners were in a non-rebuild mode this year, and they just blew it (I agree w/that). And that it just happened that the rest of the teams are all rebuilding at the same time, it happens, and the division has nothing to apologize for in getting their winner into the playoffs.

  12. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Amen, cerjam, amen…

  13. bigmike04 says:

    To all people who keep talking about draft, Eric Williams say it best that we will talk about the draft later.

    Geesh you guys need to take a break and just leave, so tired of reading about draft, their is not good QB in college that can start in NFL right now period. The sooner you guys realize that the sooner you can put it to rest…

    I am for one want to go playoff, who cares about draft pick half of them don’t make it in NFL…

  14. Maybe it will be fine to miss the playoffs, right about know I’m thinking it will be better to get our possible stars for next season (Tatupu, Okung especially) healthy, they have been sort of injured all season long, and we know that they are/can be very important for us, I don’t know the seriousness of their injuries or what they might develop into, but want to risk their future health with a playoff game, that we in all honesty probably isn’t going to win no matter what happens.

  15. Dukeshire says:

    The Lions, Raiders, Bills, Browns, Redskins among others, would probably not agree that picking inside the top 10 in consecutive years (or more) is a good strategy for building a winner.

    Again, it comes down to who you take, not where you draft that is far and away more important.

  16. Duke – you are listing some of the most poorly run organizations of the decade. If that’s where Carroll is taking us, none of this matters anyway.

  17. Most Quarterbacks in the NFL would suck with this level of talent around them. Routes that Bobby or D jack would have run are light years beyond Bmw, Obo, Butler,etc,etc,etc. The Ol and Dl are mere shadows for the elite in the game. Yet here we are playing for a division title. Go gett’m Hawks. I want the Defence to show up and crush the Rams. befuddle Bradford, And expose them for all that they believe they are.

  18. SeahawkFan12 says:

    “Again, it comes down to who you take, not where you draft that is far and away more important.”

    Exactly. Seriously, stop focusing on a top 10 pick. It does not guarantee success, or even better production. It does guarantee a higher salary.

    Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, etc were all drafted in later rounds. It matters WHO you take and HOW you develop them. And so far, PC and Schneider have shown that they can get good players and make things happen on draft day/free agency.

    Patience, my friends…patience.

    And a victory Sunday night! ;)

  19. Dukeshire says:

    pabuwal – As badly as you’ve run down the Hawks and Paul Allen I would have thought you would appreciate that sample size. There are similarities between them and the ‘Hawks of the past 3 seasons. Not the least of which is the same ownership and multiple coaching staffs.

    For the record, I do believe Carroll and Schneider are taking this franchise in the right direction, if even tangible results have not yet been realized. I’ve just never seen an example illustrating where playing for draft position leads to success in the NFL. NBA? Different story.

  20. Dukeshire says:

    Come on pabs, you know you want to wear those khakis on Monday…

    Eric, Has anyone around VMAC referred to Schneider as Frodo yet? He’s so wee. Lol.

  21. Duke – I said Paul Allen forced the State of Washington to pay $300 million towards an investment that appreciated $800 million for him. And because of this, he didn’t need anyone’s gratitude for buying the team. I actually didn’t criticize him in the manner you are implying.

  22. Any Seahawk win from here on will require “Wear Khakis Forever Monday.”

    For the Falcons game, I wore khakis and the typical hoodie Carroll wears on game day but on that day he switched it up and wore a different hoodie.

  23. Dukeshire says:

    pabuwal – I thought I remembered you criticizing his business endeavors and his general ownership of the ‘Hawks. If not, I apologize.

    “Any Seahawk win from here on will require “Wear Khakis Forever Monday.””

    I actually have more khakis than jeans, but have intentionally not worn them on Monday since we came up with this. lol.

  24. GeorgiaHawk says:

    pabuwal

    And if that is not where Carrol is taking us then it doe’s not matter the draft position!
    I got an idea. Why don’t you just get into the here and now and support your team?
    Win or lose!

  25. MattandCindy says:

    bigmike04 says:
    December 30, 2010 at 11:55 am
    To all people who keep talking about draft, Eric Williams say it best that we will talk about the draft later.

    Geesh you guys need to take a break and just leave, so tired of reading about draft, their is not good QB in college that can start in NFL right now period. The sooner you guys realize that the sooner you can put it to rest…

    I am for one want to go playoff, who cares about draft pick half of them don’t make it in NFL…

    Does anyone else read this and wonder what happened to our “edumakational systems?” ( j/k….even if i’m confused.)

  26. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I think we are talking about pro football here.Overall what has good education to do with football?

  27. chuck_easton says:

    You mean all those scholar athletes don’t use their football talent to come out of university with a degree and education? Who knew?

  28. Last years #7 overall pick got 5 year contract for $50 million dollars.

    How many people want to pay a rookie at any position over $26 million in guaranteed money at an average of about $10 million per season for 5 years?

    Nobody wants to trade up into the top 10 because of those stupid rookie contracts so we’ll pretty much be forced to stand pat at #7 and make a pick (if that’s where we end up picking).

    Personally, I’d rather win the division and pay the #21 pick a much more reasonable salary so there will be more free agent dollars available to improve the overall talent on our team (and/or resign some guys like Mebane and Leon). The #21 pick last year received 5 year contract worth “only” (in comparison) $15.8 million.

    I don’t agree with those who think we “win” by losing because of draft position.

    I don’t know why anyone in their right mind would rather pay an untested rookie $10 million per season AND see their “favorite” team lose a football game.

    Personally, I like to watch my favorite team win and not be handcuffed another $10 million dollar salary so some of that money could go to get a guy like Logan Mankins on the open market.

  29. bigmike04 says:

    I have to agree with deadspin article 12th man in Seattle are Traitor period, their also fair weather fans also, What is everyone already hoping off band waggon if that the case than don’t get back on…

  30. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I said overall! And I said the NFL!
    Who knew the NFL was so full of scholar athletes?

  31. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Let ‘em hop off the bandwagon. Good riddance. Fair weather fans will always be here, but for those of us who love our team, we’ll cheer in good times and bad. And the good times are on their way; remember, we are in a rebuilding year yet staring at the division championship and the playoffs. Unbelievable.

    Here is the post of the day in my mind:
    “Nobody wants to trade up into the top 10 because of those stupid rookie contracts so we’ll pretty much be forced to stand pat at #7 and make a pick (if that’s where we end up picking).

    Personally, I’d rather win the division and pay the #21 pick a much more reasonable salary so there will be more free agent dollars available to improve the overall talent on our team (and/or resign some guys like Mebane and Leon). The #21 pick last year received 5 year contract worth “only” (in comparison) $15.8 million.

    I don’t agree with those who think we “win” by losing because of draft position.

    I don’t know why anyone in their right mind would rather pay an untested rookie $10 million per season AND see their “favorite” team lose a football game.

    Personally, I like to watch my favorite team win and not be handcuffed another $10 million dollar salary so some of that money could go to get a guy like Logan Mankins on the open market.”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself…

  32. SandpointHawk says:

    First off I want the Hawks to win on Sunday….

    But we fans have been forced to grab whatever ‘Rose Colored Glasses’ we can find for the last 3 years…

    If we do loose we will gain (aprox + /-) 11 places in the draft…that’s over 77 players available to the FO (whomever is making the final call) through the seven rounds…

    So through each of the 7 rounds 11 (or so) more players will be on the board each round.

    I don’t really think any of us want the Hawks to not win any week of the season….
    We are merely looking for a life raft at this point….

  33. Your theory insinuates that we actually have our own pick in each of the 7 rounds. Actually, we are without our 3rd, 4th, and I think another later pick or two (one goes to Detroit in the Polumbus trade and another to the Eagles in the Andrews trade, and/or a late pick going to the 49ers in the Balmer deal?).

    What we do on Sunday has nothing to do with our 4th round picks from the Broncos and Ravens. I’m not saying you said they do, because you didn’t, but just bringing up that point as well. I think we’ve also got a late pick coming back from Detroit in the Lawrence Jackson trade.

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I like so many have gotten caught up in the draft every year. It drive’s me crazy because rarely ever do they draft the player’s that I want anyway’s!

    I just hope that we can draft or pickup more Trench player’s! That offensive lineman from Florida who’s rookie brother just made the pro bowl comes to mind.

  35. SandpointHawk says:

    BobbyK…I do know that but didn’t want to do all the math….You can call me lazy but not stupid….Still drinking Kool Aid no matter the outcome Sunday

  36. GriffinNW says:

    Like someone said earlier and I have said in other threads, this is a win-win. The team is going to try and win, rooting against them is both pointless and just evidence you are not a true fan. No one roots against their team in situations like this.
    The more comments I read, the more I just want out of the top 10 all together. Like someone brought up, those top 10 contracts are really expensive, and can often times hurt teams more than it can help them. You dump all your money into a top pick, you have less to spend elsewhere.
    Its who you draft and how you train and evaluate! Not how high up you can pick.

    Ill be rooting our boys on come Sunday.
    F*ck the fans for jumping off the bandwagon.

    GO SEAHAWKS!

  37. Sandpoint – Never said you were “stupid,” I merely pointed out that we’re without more than a few of our own picks. If anyone is stupid, it’s me for not knowing which/each round we’re actually without a pick. I should have kept better track of it.

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