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Williams, Obomanu return to practice

Post by Eric Williams on Dec. 15, 2010 at 2:29 pm with 32 Comments »
December 15, 2010 5:33 pm

The Seattle Seahawks had their starting receiving tandem back at practice today, with Mike Williams and Ben Obomanu fully participating in a workout outside at the VMAC that lasted about an hour and a half.

Williams appeared to move well during individual and team drills. And Ben Obomanu, with his pinkie and ring fingers taped back to protect a gash in between his fingers, showed no ill affects from the injury, several times stretching out to make tough catches on the day.

“That’s my mindset, to go out and not think about it,” Obomanu said about the injury. “That’s the way it’s going to be Sunday, too. You have to just go out and play. And the biggest thing for the receiver is to stick your hands out and catch the ball, and then deal with it later. If it starts hurting or something after you catch it and run for five or 10 yards, then you’ll think about the pain. But the biggest thing is just trying to get as many catches as a I can to get over the sting factor.”

Offensive lineman Chester Pitts also practiced for the first time in three weeks and seemed to make it through okay.

As Carroll stated during his press conference, Brandon Stokely (hamstring), Walter Thurmond (hamstring) and Roy Lewis (knee) were limited or did not participate in practice at all today.

Also sitting out were defensive end Chris Clemons and center Chris Spencer.

Seahawks safety Lawyer Milloy talked about facing his former team the Atlanta Falcons, and all of the young, talented players on the roster.

“Former team or not, this is one of the best teams in the NFL right now,” Milloy said. “And given the situation were in, it’s a playoff game. There’s a lot of implications for both teams.

“In the position they’re in, they have a chance to really solidify home-field advantage for the playoffs. And we’re trying to figure it out to get in. Because we’re in the same conference, potentially this is a tone setter game for later on, too. But for us personally this is something to where let’s see if we can rise to the challenge, knowing that they’re pretty much setting the standard for our conference by the way they’re doing things right now.”

Milloy also talked about the way he left Atlanta. His contract ended at the end of the 2008 season and the Falcons did not seek to sign him to a new deal. Milloy said he played injured during that season, still starting in 15 games, including the Falcons’ playoff loss in Arizona.

“My contract was up, period, point blank,” Milloy said. “Obviously before the season I knew that they wanted to try to get younger. I gave that city my all. There’s nothing nobody can say about that, to the point where I went out in the Arizona game with a broken back – transverse fractures I found out afterward – but it was all for the sake of that team, and the players that really believed in it. We went through a tough year, especially with the Michael Vick thing, and I knew that they deserved more. And that’s how I tried to lead.”

Here’s the full injury report:

Seattle: Olindo Mare (left hamstring), Brandon Stokley (hamstring), Walter Thurmond (hamstring), Roy Lewis (knee) and Chris Clemons (ankle) did not practice.

Chris Spencer (shoulder) was limited. And Matt Hasselbeck (left wrist), Ben Obomanu (hand) and Mike Williams were full participants.

Atlanta: DE John Abraham (groin), Lb Curtis Lofton (knee) and WR Roddy White (knee) did not practice.

DT Jonathan Babineaux (shoulder), OT Tyson Clabo (ankle), LB Stephen Nicholas (knee), RB Jason Snelling (hamstring) and LB Coy Wire (head) were limited participants.

Notes from practice
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  1. With Big Play Ben back in the fold, Hasselbeck should at least play like an average QB with a QB rating over 85 instead of his usual 60.

  2. CaliSeahawker says:

    Atlanta still wins by 37

  3. mickmack22 says:

    Despite being a home game, we’ve seen good teams come in to Qwest and show that a home team doesn’t really amount to much this year (NY. Giants). Atlanta isn’t just a “good” team. They are a great playoff bound team and the Seahawks get no rest with Tampa afterwards and an upstart St. Louis team. It would be optimistic to envision even one more win for the year. Personally I’d rest all my starters and run this as an immediate loss..but I doubt the ticketholders would appreciate that.. Still, as the injuries continue to pile up, the St. Louis game may be the most important and who’ll be left when Atlanta and Tampa Bay get through with this team?

  4. Guestimated (Week 15) Season Results & Draft Pick:
    CAR 1-12; vAZ-L, @PIT-L, @ATL-L; 1-15; draft #1: QB A.Luck
    CIN 2-11; vCLE-L, vSD-L, @BAL-L; 2-14; draft #2: WR A.J.Green
    BUF 3-10; @MIA-L, vNE-L, @NYJ-L; 3-13; draft #3: DT N.Fairley
    DET 3-10; @TB-L, @MIA-L, vMIN-L; 3-13; draft #4: CB P.Peterson
    DEN 3-10; @OAK-L, vHOU-L, vSD-L; 3-13; draft #5: CB P.Amukamara
    AZ 4-9; @CAR-W, vDAL-L, @SF-L; 5-11; draft #6-7: QB C.Newton
    DC 5-8; @DAL-L, @JAX-L, vNYG-L; 5-11; draft #6-7: DT M.Darius
    DAL 4-9; vDC-W, @AZ-W, @PHI-L; 6-10; draft #8-13: DE D.Bowers
    CLE 5-8; @CIN-W, vBAL-L, vPIT-L; 6-10; draft #8-13: OLB A.Ayers
    TEN 5-8; vHOU-W, @KC-L, @IND-L; 6-10; draft #8-13: QB R.Mallett
    MIN 5-8; vCHI-L, @PHI-L, @DET-W; 6-10; draft #8-13: DE J.Watt
    SF 5-8; @SD-L, @STL-L, vAZ-W; 6-10; draft #8-13: DE R.Quinn
    SEA 6-7; vATL-L, @TB-L, vSTL-L; 6-10; draft #8-13: OT G.Carimi
    HOU 5-8; @TEN-L, @DEN-W, vJAX-W; 7-9; draft #14-15: OLB V.Miller
    OAK 6-7; vDEN-W, vIND-L, @KC-L; 7-9; draft #14-15 (to NE): DE A.Clayborn
    MIA 7-6; vBUF-W, vDET-W, @NE-L; 9-7; draft #16-19: WR J.Blackmon
    SD 7-6; vSF-W, @CIN-W, @DEN-W; 9-7; draft #16-19: OT A.Costanzo
    JAX 8-5; @IND-L, vDC-W, @HOU-L; 9-7; draft #16-19: CB B.Harris
    GB 8-5; @NE-L, vNYG-L, vCHI-W; 9-7; draft #16-19: DE C.Jordan
    TB 8-5; vDET-W, vSEA-W, @NO-L; 10-6; draft #20: DE C.Heyward
    STL 6-7; vKC-L, vSF-W, @SEA-W; 8-8; NFCW draft #21 WR R.Broyles
    IND 7-6; vJAX-W, @OAK-W, vTEN-W; 10-6; AFCS draft #22: RB M.Ingram
    CHI 9-4; @MIN-W, vNYJ-L, @GB-L; 10-6; NFCN draft #23: OT N.Soldier
    NYJ 9-4; @PIT-L, @CHI-W, vBUF-W; 11-5; AFC-WC draft #24: DT P.Taylor
    PHI 9-4; @NYG-L, vMIN-W, vDAL-W; 11-5; NFC-WC draft #25: CB J.Smith
    NO 10-3; @BAL-L, @ATL-L, vTB-W; 11-5; NFC-WC draft #26: OT D.Sherrod
    KC 8-5; @STL-W, vTEN-W, vOAK-W; 11-5; AFCW draft #27: DE R.Kerrigan
    BAL 9-4; vNO-W, @CLE-W, vCIN-W; 12-4; AFC-WC draft #28: DE A.Bailey
    NYG 9-4; vPHI-W, @GB-W, @DC-W; 12-4; NFCE draft #29: OT D.Love
    PIT 10-3; vNYJ-W, vCAR-W, @CLE-W; 13-3; AFCN draft #30: OT T.Smith
    ATL 11-2; @SEA-W, vNO-W, vCAR-W; 14-2; NFCS draft #31: CB J.Jenkins
    NE 11-2; vGB-W, @BUF-W, vMIA-W; 14-2; AFCE draft #32: WR J.Jones

    Although the draft is a kind of ‘Wheel of Fortune’, it is still the main means of improving the team. Since Luck & Newton are likely gone before SEA picks, I’d re-sign Matt, get an OT in the 1st, and maybe an OG in the 2nd if Locker is gone, to help the OL’s run-blocking. Once the OL can both run-block and pass-protect, then it wouldn’t matter if Matt or CW played. Become a run-team. Keep LW for outside zone runs and run Beast-Force inside. Maybe we’ll win 7 games next year against a tougher schedule? Keep pushing that run-game.

  5. Lynch, in my view, is just an average back, but is getting far more slack than fans were willing to give SA. Lynch gets two yards and everyone’s praising his effort. But he just doesn’t have the speed or vision to be an elite back. Yes, he’s capable of getting 1,000 yards, but not approaching 2,000 like SA, even with a stud OL.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    Eric, I presume Lofa participated in his first Wednesday practice in months?

    I love the knowing that they (Milloy in any case) is approaching this as a playoff game. Whether that effects the outcome remains to be seen, but I like the fact the intensity will be as high as they can manufacture it. They’ll need it.

  7. Dukeshire says:

    Can – SA didn’t get outwardly crushed until after he signed his big deal after the ’05 season. There were rumblings about how soft he was long before, of course but his numbers drowned out the dissenters.

    As for giving Lynch slack now vs hating on a post ’05 SA, simple; Lynch busts his ass for every yard, as few as they may be, on every carry for a total rebuild, if not poor team. SA was tanking and potato-bugging for a team fresh off a Super Bowl appearance and who made the playoffs each of the next two seasons.

  8. Dukeshire says:

    Eric – Another question; Milloy has really been a vocal presence in the media and a front and center leader for this defense and team, this year. Who do you see stepping into that role, or who’s makeup will put himself there, after he’s retired?

  9. williambryan says:

    wow. how soon some forget… Its nice to make broadsweeping claims about Shaun Alexanders softness, Dukeshire, but you and every other ungreatful “seahawks fan” have no backbone to your position that Alexander was soft. Maybe he wasn’t Earl Campbell but he was the BEST back in the league from 2001 to 2005 and he was pretty darn good in 06 and 07 considering the circumstances. Walter Jones, the greatest seahawks ever, was on this team, and blocking better than anyone ever has, before SA was on the team and after SA was gone from the team, however the only time the team had success was when Alexander was the starting running back.

  10. Shaun Alexander had one of the great all-time individual efforts in Seahawks history against the Bears in January 2007. Even average QB play that day would have allowed the Seahawks to pull off one of the greatest upsets in NFC playoff history.

    It always amazes me how so many Seahawks fans pillage one of the great players in franchise history while fully supporting a QB that is on pace for just 4 seasons with a winning record out of 10 as a starter. Out East, they have a name for a QB like that and its called “Kerry Collins.”

  11. IdahoHawk says:

    Come on comparing S.A. to Lynch. To totally different running styles for good reason. S.A. had an eye for the game Lynch does not. Lynch has to make up for that with full on power running. Mix the two and what do you get Earl C., Barry S., BO J. Ext….
    I Guess at least where not having the Hass/Whitehurst argument.
    Has anyone notice “Arroncurryisabust” is no where to be seen for the last five or six games?

  12. Here’s an updated header for the blog that saw on twitter; kind of funny.

  13. Dukeshire says:

    Where to start? Let’s pick williambryan; First off, how am I ungrateful? His 5 year run was statically epic. But to unequivocally call him the best denies LT and Larry Johnson’s run during that period. But as I said, his was undeniably great.

    Second – I specifically specified that the criticisms were most notable after ’05. This cannot be denied. After the contract, and by mid ’06 you were living under a rock if you weren’t aware of the negativity directed toward SA.

    Lastly; are you saying that he wasn’t soft? Are you going to make a case that he gave maximum effort always? And as for my “backbone”, if you were here after the ’05 season, you’ll remember that I was a loud critic of his contract and the seeming priority placed on him over Hutch. Dig through he archives because it’s all there.

    Pab – SA had a nice game vs the Bears but to call it “one of the great all-time individual efforts in Seahawks history” is simply another attempt to take a backhanded shot at Hass. You want to blame someone for that game? Then start questioning Holmgren’s clock management at the end of regulation.

  14. Dukeshire says:

    “specifically specified” lol. specifically *noted*

  15. Here’s the box score for that playoff game:

    Hass got outplayed by Rex Grossman, which, in hindsight, is embarrassing. And the immortal Pete Hunter helped Seattle almost pull off a big upset.

    Pabuwal, I think Hass has produced five winning seasons, unless I’m missing something.

  16. Maybe Hasselbeck could have hit a wide open Bobby Engram to set up the Seahawks for a game winning FG attempt in that Bears game? I must have watched a replay of that play 50 times and I couldn’t figure out why he stared in that direction but did not release the ball. Even Holmgren called him out for that.

  17. Çanfan – I was referring to his record in games he started. The team had winning records in 2001 and 2004 but he did not. Trent Dilfer won the remaining games.

  18. variable575 says:

    haven’t got on here in a while but true to form, Dukeshire gets handled by Williambryan and has to sling out subtle insults to get his point across–what a boner.

    Couldn’t agree with Williambryan more, bet never question the (quasi) god of the blog or expect for a painful yet subtle “i’m the best here” attitude from Dukiepoo.

  19. vari- kinda harsh on Duke? Whafor? He merely said one common perception of what fans were sayin bout SA post SB. I think SA was probably the best RB Hawks ever had, but he purposely went down rather than suffer a hit. I thought maybe his coaches had instructed him to do that. Even so, after ’05, the broken foot, losing Hutch, etc., was the end of the career of one of the Hawks best past players as well as one heck of a great community member. I expect his name to be included in the ring of honor someday, but his time did come to an end after that SB.

    Also, Watters, Warner, Warren, Green, etc. have all been fine RBs for the Hawks, and a case could be made that had they played behind the quality of OL that SA got to play behind, they might have had similar numbers. The only player that had that chance (with reduced carries) was MoMo. He never got to the same average as SA up to the SB, but surpassed him after. SAs best running quality was his ability to hit the right cutback lane. He said he knew which way to go mostly from the sound of the collision of Strong vs whomever he was sposed to block.

    If Hawks can get the needed FB & OL talent, run-blocking skills, consistency and health, their current committee of RBs could become the force that drives SEA into a win-forever franchise.

  20. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Shaun he stabbed me in the back Alexander! The most undeserving MVP in nfl history!
    Hutch was great! Jone’s was Better! SA was just good with a self serving attitude!
    If it were possible to bring back time, I would think that the seahawks management would have given SA’s big contract to Hutch and let his sorry You no what go, so then we all would know what this guy really was!
    Oh, that’s right we did find out what he was about. Just ask the redskins fans!

    Dukeshire your right on!

  21. GeorgiaHawk says:


    Back East they got a name for Shaun Alexander.


  22. Alexander was a great back from ’01 to ’05 – great vision, and the best knack around the goal line of any back in the game during that time.

    He went downhill not necessarily b/c he was soft (I don’t know that any RB w/that many touchdowns is soft), but b/c he started to get hurt, and then he pretty clearly lost a step – and he didn’t have a step to lose.

    His contract was pretty unavoidable imo, coming off a super bowl appearance and a league MVP season, what are you gonna do – but it definitely serves as a warning to signing any running back as he hits 30 years of age – you assume that most declines are going to be gradual, but they can be steep too – and that’s what happened to him. With a few games of exceptions – he wasn’t anywhere near the back he used to be after the ’05 season.

  23. GeorgiaHawk says:

    His contract was pretty unavoidable? And a big contract to Hutch was more avoidable?
    I think most of us would know how this scenario would have played out if the seahawk’s management were on par with the better management’s of the league at that time.
    Never hold a running back’s value to the team over a pro bowl QB and or top five lineman in NFL history!!!

    I think maybe there has been a time or two but I cannot recall a super bowl champion that has had the league’s leading rusher on it!

    Perhap’s Davis of the Bronco’s is one, however it is very rare!

  24. There is no denying that SA was soft. Would I draft him again – YES, YES, YES!!!!!

    He was great inside the 20. One of the best ever, and quite frankly inside the 5 I think there are only 2. SA and Marcus Allen. They knew how to get into the endzone. PERIOD!!.

    Just the same as we have been complaining how the hawks give up 3rd and long – WAY TOO OFTEN. Not being to convert 3rd and 1 started during the SA good years. they only time he could get it was inside the 20. But again. I knew his limitations and was willing to deal with some of them – but that doesn’t mean I liked them.

  25. It’s easy to say that now – but as i said, he was coming off literally one of the best seasons ever by a running back in the NFL (setting the all-time rushing TD record), and in doing so, led his team to its first Super Bowl appearance. So, yeah, in hindsight, it’s pretty clear what should have happened – but at the time there was a ton of pressure to re-sign the reigning MVP.

    The Hutch thing? Well, feels like that ground has been pretty well covered around here.

  26. Didn’t most of us take away from the SA thing, that you don’t re-up an RB, but rather pick a good one in the draft? When the rookie RB contract is up, you let them go in FA (for big money) & re-load.

  27. I loved watching Shaun in 2001, when he was in his second year. He was magical. He gashed the Raiders for 266 yards.

    The Seahawks have been luckier in the RB department than in the QB department. Warner, Watters and Alexander were all elite backs, and Warren wasn’t far behind. Unfortunately Lynch and Forsett (as much as I love the latter) are far from elite.

  28. Sarcasticus says:

    “I think maybe there has been a time or two but I cannot recall a super bowl champion that has had the league’s leading rusher on it!

    Perhap’s Davis of the Bronco’s is one, however it is very rare!”

    Davis was one and Emmitt Smith 3 times

    As far as greatest Seahawks running back, I will go with John L. Williams. His yards from scrimmage from 88 to 91 while paving the way for Warner and Fenner were awesome. I loved watching him play. Was there ever a running back with softer hands?

    As far as Shaun Alexander goes, I loved watching him run. I am a die-hard Tide fan and loved watching him go from my favorite college team to my favorite pro team (If only lightning could strike twice and Richardson ends up in Seattle). I couldn’t wait for Watters to get out of the way so SA could play.

    The offensive line was perfect for Alexander. He had tremendous vision and cut-back ability. That is why he was used on kick-off returns in college (and returned one for a td). Dubose, the coach at the time, said of Alexander, “He has the best open-field running skills of any back I’ve ever seen.” Opposing defensive players said he was “elusive” and “moved around a lot”.

    Unfortunately, the holes in pro football are not always there. As we saw, when the great Seahawks line deteriorated, so did the holes. No one can question Alexander’s ability in the open field, but he was not a “3-yards in a cloud of dust” running back. Even in the open field, he took what he could get then got down or out of bounds. In the eyes of many, that definitely looks “soft”. I think SA would argue that it kept the wear and tear down on the body. If he just reeled off a 30 yard run, why drop the shoulders to try for two more when you can get out of bounds and make it back to the huddle to try for 30 more? Which would the coaches prefer?

    So, I think when discussing Alexander, you have to be able to recognize what both sides are saying. Alexander did not make a living running over defenses. He made a living avoiding them. Your personal preference on what makes a great back will determine whether or not that fits your criteria. What cannot be disputed are the results. He was very productive.

  29. I always thought MoMo never got a fair chance, kinda like Forsett now and last year, and to some extent L. Washington this year. I’m not at the practices or see as much of them as the coaches do obviously, but I always question why it seems like some RBs don’t get the chance like others do with the Hawks.

  30. yakimahawk says:

    Alexander ran behind Mack Strong, Steve Hutchinson, and Walater Jones..All of them were pro-bowlers..And didn’t Tobeck go to the Pro-Bowl that year..Who or what is Lynch is running behind is crazy, with no fullback?? I am not saying which one is better they are completely different runners..To compare Lynch to what Alexander had to rum behind is idiocy!!

  31. yakimahawk says:

    Sorry about my horrible spelling…But I am in a huge rush..

  32. GeorgiaHawk says:


    You are dead on about John L. William’s!
    He also had a nasty stiff arm that would drive a defender to the ground.

    The thing that I have a problem with,( When this Shaun Alexander being one of the greatest back’s talk come’s up is this).

    1- He was a good back. Not great!

    2-He had great vision and was a great open field runner, despite his lack of great speed. See Franco harris.

    3-Very rarely did he over power a defender and he had decent size for a running back. not like Marcus Allen,Walter Peyton, Jim brown, Emmitt Smith,ect….

    4-He had perhaps the greatest left side offensive line in NFL history! Wow how do you think some of these other backs could have done with that line?

    5- He coudn’t get to the hole fast.Well we all saw how great he was when the line went from great to good to average.

    6-Poor receiving skill’s.His hand’s sure were not soft.

    Great running backs in my opinion have to do well in all phases to be considered great! Or at least most of them!

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