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Morning links: O-line stability a key

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 12, 2010 at 6:33 am with 26 Comments »
November 12, 2010 6:33 am

Seattle Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck returned to practice today after missing lat week with lingering concussion symptoms. But now the veteran quarterback is back, can the Seahawks protect him. Hasselbeck already has been sacked 22 times, tied for second most in the league.

Seahawks offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates says his team has to get back to the point where they are running out the same starting five each week.

“We need to find five and stay with it because of communication and just the relationship that you form with the guy next to you and in the wars that you battle,” Bates said. “We need to find five guys and guys have to get healthy. We just have to keep growing and getting better.”

TNT’s Dave Boling, Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times join KJR’s Mitch Levy and Hugh Millen on the Seahawks roundtable in this audio link.

John Boyle of the Everett Herald writes the Seahawks are seeing a frustrated Larry Fitzgerald.

Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic predicts a 24-17 win for the Cardinals.

Darren Urban of azcardinals.com writes about LaRod Stephens-Howling, who has emerged into one of the best returners in the game.

Steve Wyche of the NFL Network runs down the squad leaders for the NFC West, and they include Matt Hasselbeck and Lawyer Milloy for the Seahawks.

Former NFL scout Greg Gabriel runs down his all-rookie team at the midpoint, and it includes Earl Thomas an Russell Okung.

According to Brian Burke of Advanced NFL Stats the Seahawks have a 43 percent win chance against the Cardinals.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Bates is right of course, but it’s season 3 of the revolving door up front. At least it feels closer to stability now than before. And as John Vincenza liked to say on those classic NFL Films, you’ve got to “control the combat zone on the line of scrimmage”. Seattle’s not doing that on either side right now, but as they start to get bodies back…

  2. I look at this game as THE game to determine if the Seahawks have any playoff chances this year. Win this game and they can capture that long awaited 7-9 or 8-8 division title.

    Losing this game puts them at 4-5 with a road trip to the Saints. Losing this game also means the only real winnable game left on the schedule is the home Carolina game which gets the team to another 5-11 finish.

  3. CaliSeahawker says:

    Could not agree more with the previous post. If we lose, we might as well look towards next season. Wishing we had traded for Marshall, or even signed T.O.! Hindsight is always 20/20. Our offense is atrocious.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    Few things would make pabuwal happier than success while mired in mediocrity.

  5. CaliSeahawker says:

    Hilarious Duke!

    But seriously, the Seahawks need to rid themselves of negative momentum. Stating the obvious here, but they need to prevent Arizona from scoring defensive or ST touchdowns, as they have scored quite a few of those this year. If we win, regardless of whether or not we have Okung – we can take the positive momentum into NO and in my opinion, have a better chance winning that game.

    Another reason we need to win this game is because if we do, we gain a game on 2/3 division opponents which will be crucial considering we face NO next. I need a Pepcid.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    Yeah, in all seriousness, if this team is serious about the playoffs, this is a must win. No getting around it.

  7. Duke – I figure if the Seahawks are going to win a division title in one of the worst divisions ever, let’s at least make history doing it. And maybe even win a few playoff games to really set some history. Wouldn’t it be great to look back and say, “yeah those 2010 Seahawks really set the NFL establishment upside down”? We know this team is weak, so why dress it up to more than it is?

    The 2006 team was my last hope at a weak Seahawks team making history, but that Bears loss in OT killed it. No #1 NFC team lost its first playoff game since the current playoff format was established in 1990 and the Seahawks were double digit underdogs who were lucky to even be there.

  8. The first NFC #1 seed teams to lose their first playoff game occurred when the Giants beat the Cowboys in 2007 and then the Eagles beat the Giants in 2008 for two in a row.

  9. It’s interesting how some fans say “we” when referring to the Seahawks and others say “they.” I used to say “we” a lot, but I try to avoid doing so these days. I think if you identify too closely with the team, you take the losses harder. Yes, you probably enjoy the wins more, but I prefer to stay on an even keel. I have no control over what happens to the Seahawks, so I shouldn’t feel too depressed on Monday mornings after a thumping from, say, the Giants. (Back when I was in college, a Seahawks loss used to spoil almost my entire week!) I’m still a die-hard fan, I just don’t get too high or too low. I do notice, however, that after a win, I’m eager to watch every highlight show and read every article. So I’m actually more productive on Mondays after a loss than after a win!

  10. “I look at this game as THE game to determine if the Seahawks have any playoff chances this year. Win this game and they can capture that long awaited 7-9 or 8-8 division title.”

    Yeah, I agree. It is THE key game of the year, with the other one hopefully being the week 16 vs. the Rams.

    Win this one, and we’ve got a very legit shot at the division – and however lousy our record is, I’ll still take a playoff slot – it’s been a long while, and let’s face it, basically the worst 3-4 year period in Seattle sports history (curse you again Schultz/Bennett) – we could use a silver lining . . .

  11. chuck_easton says:

    It’s a rebuilding year….
    It’s a rebuilding year…
    It’s a rebuilding year..

    OOHHHMMMMM, OOHHHMMMM

    go to my happy place…

    There now I can come back in off the ledge and put away the tub of Rocky Road ice cream.

  12. “I do notice, however, that after a win, I’m eager to watch every highlight show and read every article.”

    So true. I basically avoided the football press this Monday. Didn’t need any recaps and analysis of that drubbing . . .

  13. SandpointHawk says:

    @Canfan: The numbness we give ourselves from multiple losing seasons. Helps our sanity…

    @pdway: Oakland avoided press until Wednesday…thought we had a chance on that one…Giants…took Monday off…I had expected to lose and the shock after Oakland was less…numbness sets in…

    @ chuck_easton….helps doesn’t it …
    It’s a rebuilding year….
    It’s a rebuilding year…
    It’s a rebuilding year..

  14. Dukeshire says:

    pabuwal – I’m just giving you a hard time. I’ll say this; if I knew they would win at least one game in the playoffs, I’d prefer to have them win it at 7-9. Something about this division’s futility (at the moment. Both the Rams and ‘Hawks are on the right track) and winning it with a losing record is… appealing in a perverse way.

    Canfan – I’ve always been a ‘they’ guy. But it doesn’t have anything to do with trying to stay on an even keel, or anything. I take it all a little more personally than perhaps I should. (As my family and friends can attest.) But until I’m on the ‘Hawks payroll, I just can’t bring myself to say ‘we’. I think I’m as connect to the team as I can be, but I have so much respect for all the work organizations put in, I’ve just always felt more comfortable saying ‘they’. Probably because my dad was a ‘they’ guy too. Anyway, it is interesting. I’ve always wondered about that as well.

  15. Palerydr says:

    Mistake free football(turnovers/penalties/def penalties on 3rd down) will get us a win this week anything less and we just aren’t good enough to win on the road. Huge game as it is considered winnable.
    Kenny Easly was my fav all time Hawk found this clip on you tube it’s a bittersweet memory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quxbCQ4m8Ww

  16. Dukeshire says:

    Hadn’t seen that piece in a while. Honestly, is there a better player who’s eligible, that’s not in the Hall of Fame? 5 pro bowl, 3x first team all-pro, 32 picks at SS, ’84 defensive player of the year, ave 11.6 per on 26 career punt returns. All in just 7 seasons. Ask anyone who he played with or against and they’ll say he should be a HOFer, one of the best who’s ever played.

  17. How about Cortez Kennedy?

  18. I’m all about trying to stay on an even keel too. But let’s face it, this is Darnell Dockett’s team we are talking about. This time, it’s personal.

  19. Palerydr says:

    I’m a fan of Tez as well defensive player of the year for a 2-14 team. There has been discussion of putting Easly in the HOF and it came from Ronnie Lott who said Kenny was as good or better than himself. High praise indeed.

    If Darnell Dockett leaves the field on a stretcher you’ll probably receive a report of an earthquake magnitude 2.3 originating in the South Sound region. :)

  20. Dukeshire says:

    Of course ‘Tez is deserving and if he played east of the Rockies, he’d likely be in by now. But as good as he was, I put Easley ahead of him in terms of dominance at their respective positions.

  21. freedom_X says:

    Easley’s best season was a bit more unique and hard to match than Cortez’s best season. And Easley was a unmatchable talent – I don’t know that any player before or since has the physical ability Easley had, on top of which Easley had excellent instincts and a good head for the game too.

    But, Easley’s career wasn’t as long lived as Kennedy’s. Cortez excelled for a much longer period than Easley’s injury plagued career. Kennedy probably could have been a starter for an NFL team for at least another year after he retired.

    Kind of like comparing Gale Sayers to Walter Payton.

  22. SandpointHawk says:

    Gotta say Sandpoint’s own Jerry Kramer…

    I loved Kenny and Tez. Another who has stats better than current HOF members is Ricky Watters.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d80999c60/Top-Ten-Not-in-HOF-Jerry-Kramer

  23. The problem with “This is a rebuilding year” is that they’re no closer to solving the long-term question at QB, and most of the moves they’ve been making on the OL have been to bring in aging veterans and other teams’ castoffs. I’ve yet to see anything that convinces me those veterans and castoffs will still be around in two or three years, or if they are, that they’ll be the nucleus of a top-rated line.

    Contrast that with the way the Niners, for example, have drafted a young OL that should anchor their team for many years to come. (The Niners’ problem is coaching, not a lack of talented players.)

    Drafting Okung was a good start, and long overdue, but there’s still a long way to go. If this is a rebuilding year, it’s going as a slowly as a government project — and I predict lots of cost overruns.

  24. Oh how I cannot wait for Sunday’s game. I so badly want to see Dockett get his up-and-comins’. AND For god sakes OC Bates, I know the O-line is lame right now and probably can’t block for a screen pass to save their lives BUT please just try it with Forsett. He is slippery enough perhaps he can make something happen and get a couple 15-25 yard plays and then we can keep them guessing since they will have to account for the screen pass. Just toss it out to him and RUN FORSETT RUNNNN!!!!
    If that does not work. toss it to Leon. get frickin creative. I mean we can’t look any worse than last week. heck, have Lynch play FB and Forsett in there at HB and split out Leon wide. confuse the hell out of AZ. Have Lynch and Forsett jump out to either side and whoever is open toss them the ball. if it doesn’t work, oh well, no worse for the wear. time to get a little tricky.

    These stupid desert dirt-head, dirt-birds take first place in my hatred for our division opponents. 49ers are just a mess so I don’t even count them. I almost feel sorry for the players having to deal with Lunatic Mike as their coach…almost…and the Rams? well they been terrible for so long my disgust for them has subsided for the time being. it will return, however, I am still angry about the come from behind win back in what was it,? ’03, ’04? at Qwest? that game ruined my day…

  25. They been terrible? wow…i need to slow down. that makes me sound like a Cardinals fan….I meant they HAVE been terrible…geez.

  26. Yes, the team is rebuilding. The F O has done a good job of creating some depth that did not exist before. Star players are not to be found in the supermarket, so enough with the “cast-offs” stuff. The team is suffering from the previous denial that Big Walt was human, thus the failure to build the O-line over several years. When Zac R. was claimed by Detroit, the team lost a lot of potential at QB. The D-line is much better and will be in the future when Red recovers next year. The secondary is improving, too. Josh W. got himself knocked down on the winning touchdown yesterday, there is good reason why he is gone. The WR’s need more time with the QB and some coaching up to learn their trade.
    I would be pleased if the team is a good spoiler the rest of the season, playoffs or not.

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