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Morning links: Hawks overachieving at midpoint of season

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 9, 2010 at 8:42 am with 17 Comments »
November 9, 2010 8:42 am

Dave Boling of The News Tribune says few expected the Seattle Seahawks to be at 4-4 at the midpoint of the season. And even though the Seahawk have been hammered two straight and are dealing with several injuries, fans should embrace the fact that they are atop the NFC West in the playoff hunt.

Boling:

Ignore for a moment the concussed quarterback, the limping linemen and the schedule looming ahead.

Instead, go back a few months, picture your response if someone had told you that the Seahawks would be 4-4 at the midpoint of this season and sharing the lead in the NFC West Division.

Most fans would have taken that in a heartbeat, right? That’s as many wins as they had in the entire 2008 season, and just one shy of the ’09 season total.

Few would have believed it possible at this point, especially if they had known the Hawks would have the 30th-rated offense, the 27th-ranked defense, and were last in the league in first downs.

The Seahawks look to get Matt Hasselbeck, Russell Okung and Brandon Mebane back this week. If Okung does return and start, it would be the six different starting offensive line combination for Seattle this season.

Art Thiel of Seattlepi.com writes that although the Seahawks are 4-4, in the context of being the world’s tallest midget that accomplishment means nothing.

John Boyle of the Everett Herald writes that head coach Pete Carroll is proud of the way his team is handling adversity.

ESPN’s John Clayton says that after watching Charlie Whitehurst’s performance that the Seahawks must draft a quarterback.

KJR’s Ian Furness and Hugh Millen discuss the Seahawks latest loss in this audio link.

Looks like ex-Seahawk Josh Wilson is being promoted ahead of Fabian Washington at cornerback, which should help the Seahawks draft position next year. The Seahawks received a conditional draft pick from the Ravens for Wilson that could be as high as a fifth depending on playing time.

Bob McManaman of the Arizona Republic writes that Kenny Iwebema could be lost for the rest of the season with a right knee injury.

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  1. I believed they would be 10-6 or, at worst, 9-7 this season so they are actually underperforming in my world. However, with the rash of injuries, it’s going to be a challenge the rest of the way. I don’t know of too many people who think we will beat the Saints in two weeks so the Arizona game this week is going to be huge. I just wish every other team on our schedule had our same injury situation so we could legitimately get to that 10-6 record. That’s about the only realistic way we’re going to get there now. I know they are part of the game, but it’s frustrating when it seems you get the short end of the stick year after year with respect to the injury situation. Dang!

  2. Dukeshire says:

    Well what do you know, Pistol fighting his way into the starting lineup. Again. I’m happy for him.

    My expectations heading into the season weren’t record related, but it is fun to see them battling for the division, regardless. I’m more concerned with the lack of discernible improvement from Curry, a near complete implosion at RT with Lock and the continued struggles of the secondary. (Trufant and Jennings specifically.) But as they start to get healthy again, I expect them to start playing better everywhere. And starting this Sunday in Arizona.

  3. Audible says:

    “especially if they had known the Hawks would have the 30th-rated offense, the 27th-ranked defense, and were last in the league in first downs.”

    Is Dave trying to encourage us or make us feel worse?

  4. I think that John Clayton piece is crap.

    How can he possibly arrive at that conclusion about Whitehurst after only one game, and especially given the circumstances.

    And, it was really only one interception that was on him because Mike Williams had the TD in his hands and allowed it to get bobbled and intercepted.

    Just using the 2 interceptions stat as part of his argument undermines his conclusion.

    This brings up another topic that I think the NFL should look at: Why do QBs take the blame for interceptions that are clearly the WRs fault.

    I think there should be a stat an allowed interceptions stat for WRs, so they take the blame.

  5. “This brings up another topic that I think the NFL should look at: Why do QBs take the blame for interceptions that are clearly the WRs fault.

    I think there should be a stat an allowed interceptions stat for WRs, so they take the blame.”

    That’s part of the reason why I think that there’s an over-reliance on the QB rating stat – which is useful, but not dispositive.

    Agree with you on Whitehurst too – way too small a sample, and too tough of a scenario in which he played, to close the book on him. He may not be the guy, but you can’t say that yet based on the one game.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    What about tipped balls that receivers come up with or diving one-handed circus catches? Should those completions be credited to the receiver rather than the QB?

    Stats and numbers only represent part of a game’s story.

    And you may disagree with Clayton but that doesn’t mean he’s a “piece of crap”. He’s a well respected journalist that has covered the Seahawks and the NFL brilliantly for decades. His conclusions may be premature but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s wrong.

  7. Everything else aside, We will need to draft a QB next year…. Hopefully a quality pick to carry us for several years……

  8. I think that John Clayton piece is crap != John Clayton is a piece of crap. Reading, it’s FUNdamental. Or maybe you’re just grumpy.

  9. What about QBs who fumble a lot, like Dave Krieg? Shouldn’t the QB rating take that into consideration?

    And why don’t we have a RB rating that takes fumbles and yards after first contact into consideration?

  10. Dukeshire says:

    Oh my god, I completely misread that. Apologies Audible.

    JoSCh – Thanks. Need to slow down. Reading may be FUNdamental but dyslexia is a bitch.

  11. Trading Josh Wilson was a mistake. Nate Ness made Heyward-Bey look like an All-Pro.

    I’m fine with all the other moves that the front office made, though we may have gone too thin at WR.

  12. “Trading Josh Wilson was a mistake. Nate Ness made Heyward-Bey look like an All-Pro.

    I’m fine with all the other moves that the front office made, though we may have gone too thin at WR.”

    Yeah, I agree. Wilson is still and young, and I don’t see why he didn’t fit into the plans one way or the other. I know they liked Thurmond’s potential. But I’m not so sure anymore how many good years Tru has left.

    On the WR’s – we are thin and inexperienced, but I still don’t regret letting go of Housh and Branch, Housh would continue to have been an issue in the locker room (and was losing separation speed on the field), and Branch just was never very productive for us. And apart from the 1st game back with NE, he hasn’t been any better for them.

  13. chuck_easton says:

    Josh Wilson 5’9″ (actually closer to 5’8″). Nuff said.

    Don’t have to agree with that, but that was the deciding factor. PC/Schneider like their DB’s 6′ or over but will accept one (or two Jennings, Trufant) that are 5’11”.

    Skill had nothing to do with it. He was too short for the system. Again, I’m not saying I agree with the decision but them’s the facts.

  14. IdahoHawk says:

    Canfan-

    The whole Seahawks team made the Raiders look like All-Pro’s. They all sucked.

  15. IdahoHawk, true that. It’s just frustrating to see a good player traded when the team isn’t exactly overflowing with talent.

    But nothing makes me madder than seeing Cameron Wake, the former BC Lion, thriving as a pass rusher in Miami. He has 8 1/2 sacks and is being projected on the All-Pro team. The Seahawks didn’t even get into a bidding war for him. He would have cost far less than Aaron Curry did. Yes, I know that hindsight is 20/20 but the guy was an absolute monster in the CFL and I would have been surprised if he wasn’t at least a capable backup in the NFL.

  16. Cornutt says:

    Wilson played really really well this past week. I mean, he stood out on a defense that is pretty good. Good for him…and us I spose.

    Yeah, I agree…waaay too early to close the book on WH. F that. We give every benefit of the doubt to our slow, old QB, who can’t throw the deep ball, and yet wan’t to write off WH after one questionable start? Clayton…that’s weak homie.

  17. wabubba67 says:

    Rickey Foley was a monster, too.

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