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Personnel Review – Week 8 vs. N.Y. Giants

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 8, 2010 at 12:04 pm with 23 Comments »
November 8, 2010 12:12 pm

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Offensive Personnel Groupings

Excluding penalties, the Seattle Seahawks ran a season-low 37 offensive plays out of four personnel groupings on Sunday.

Group Name Pass Run Total Pass% Run%
1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE “11” 10 2 12 83.3% 16.7%
1 RB, 2 WR, 2 TE “12” 11 11 22 50.0% 50.0%
1 RB, 1 WR, 3 TE “13” 1 1 2 50.0% 50.0%
0 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE “03” 1 0 1 100.0% 0.0%
Total 23 14 37 62.2% 37.8%

With Michael Robinson inactive, and just three healthy backs on the 45-man gameday roster, the Seahawks’ offense was limited to one- or no-back personnel groupings, including the 2010 debut of a 2-TE,3-WR grouping that was used in last year’s 34-17 loss to the Indianapolis Colts. On that play, both tight ends stayed in to block.

Charlie Whitehurst Passing on Sunday (By Personnel Grouping)

Whitehurst Com Att % Yards TD INT Sacks Sack Yd Rating
“02” 0 1 0.0% 0 0 0 0 0 39.6
“13” 0 1 0.0% 0 0 0 0 0 39.6
“12” 7 11 63.6% 78 1 2 0 0 75.4
“11” 5 10 50.0% 35 0 0 0 0 58.3
Total 12 23 52.2% 113 1 2 0 0 44.3

Despite the concern over the offensive line, Whitehurst was not sacked and was hardly pressured by one of the NFL’s most formidable pass-rushing defenses on Sunday. Part of the success in pass protection can be attributed to the offensive line, but the coaching staff did its part, as well.

On 23 pass plays, Seattle had an extra blocker—tight ends and/or a running back—on 19 plays. On eight of the passing plays, Seattle had 7 blockers for Whitehurst. The Giants brought more than 4 pass-rushers on ten of the 23 passing plays.
Snap Counts (Offense)

Player Plays Total %
6-C.Whitehurst 37 37 100.0%
7-Z.Robinson 0 37 0.0%
11-D.Butler 37 37 100.0%
15-B.Stokley 13 37 35.1%
17-M.Williams 33 37 89.2%
20-J.Forsett 13 37 35.1%
24-M.Lynch 21 37 56.8%
33-L.Washington 2 37 5.4%
64-M.Gibson 37 37 100.0%
65-C.Spencer 37 37 100.0%
67-A.Barbre 0 37 0.0%
68-B.Giacomini 0 37 0.0%
69-C.Pitts 37 37 100.0%
75-S.Locklear 37 37 100.0%
77-S.Andrews 37 37 100.0%
85-A.McCoy 17 37 45.9%
86-C.Baker 8 37 21.6%
87-B.Obomanu 2 37 5.4%
88-C.Morrah 2 37 5.4%
89-J.Carlson 37 37 100.0%

– Butler was the lone receiver in “13” personnel.

– All of Stokley’s snaps came as a slot receiver in 3-WR packages.

– In addition to not playing in the “13” personnel, Williams sat for the final two offensive plays.

– Obomanu’s first offensive snap of the game resulted in a 36-yard touchdown reception.

– Forsett was the single-back in all but one play run out of “11” personnel.

– Lynch was the single-back in 20 of the 22 plays run out of “12” personnel, and picked up an additional snap as the lone back in the 3-TE package.

– Washington had one snap in “11” and one snap in “12” personnel, blocking on a pass play and used as a decoy on the failed lateral on 3rd-and-1 in the 1st quarter, his final offensive snap of the game.

– 2010 sixth-round pick McCoy was active for the first time, logging 17 snaps in a blocking role after Baker left the game with an injury.

– Baker (foot) left the game in the first quarter. His injury appeared to be of the non-contract variety on Marshawn Lynch’s 6-yard run/rugby scrum, and he remained in the game for the following play.

– Morrah returned two kicks for 21 yards, and he picked up two snaps in Seattle’s 3-TE package.

– Carlson played in all of Seattle’s offensive plays for the third straight week. Carlson was targeted two times, catching both passes for 9 yards. Carlson lined up as a fullback for 5 of the 37 offensive plays. On 23 passing plays, Carlson was kept in to block nine times.

– Zac Robinson, Allen Barbre and Breno Giacomini dressed, but did not play on offense.

Defensive Personnel Groupings

Including kneel-downs at the end of each half, Seattle’s defense was on the field for a season-high 79 plays on Sunday.

Package Run Pass Total Run% Pass%
Base 39 17 56 69.6% 30.4%
Nickel 5 12 17 29.4% 70.6%
Bandit (7-DB) 0 3 3 0.0% 100.0%
5*3*3 3 0 3 100.0% 0.0%
Total 47 32 79 59.5% 40.5%

– Seattle was in base defense on 20 of the first 21 defensive plays on Sunday.

– “Bandit” was little used and ineffective, with Eli Manning completing 2-of-3 passes for 28 yards and a six-yard touchdown against Seattle’s seven-defensive back package. Kelly Jennings broke up the lone incompletion.

– The five-man line was on the field for the final three kneel-downs.
Defensive Player Snap Count

Player Plays Total %
21-K.Jennings 60 79 75.9%
23-M.Trufant 72 79 91.1%
27-J.Babineaux 40 79 50.6%
28-W.Thurmond 16 79 20.3%
29-E.Thomas 51 79 64.6%
31-K.Chancellor 34 79 43.0%
34.R.Lewis 20 79 25.3%
36-L.Milloy 46 79 58.2%
39-K.Cox 0 79 0.0%
51-L.Tatupu 68 79 86.1%
52-M.McCoy 0 79 0.0%
54-W.Herring 27 79 34.2%
57-D.Hawthorne 60 79 75.9%
58-D.Davis 19 79 24.1%
59-A.Curry 62 79 78.5%
91-C.Clemons 46 79 58.2%
93-C.Terrill 64 79 81.0%
94-J.Siavii 56 79 70.9%
95-K.Balmer 50 79 63.3%
97-E.Wilson 25 79 31.6%
98-R.Brock 31 79 39.2%
99-J.Richardson 22 79 27.8%

– After missing two weeks, Jennings returned to the starting lineup, playing on the outside in base, nickel, and “Bandit” packages through the third quarter.

– Trufant was removed from the game for the final seven plays of the game.

– Babineaux primarily played corner in nickel and “Bandit” before moving to strong safety when the score reached 38-0.

– Thurmond replaced Jennings at right cornerback in the fourth quarter.

– Thomas injured his left foot/ankle when he was stepped on by Milloy on Kevin Boss’ 5-yard touchdown reception in the 2nd quarter. Thomas missed the kneel-down at the end of the first half, his first missed snap of the season, but returned to the field at the start of the second half before he was replaced in base defense midway through the 3rd quarter. Thomas would return as a free safety in nickel defense during the Giants’ 19-play, 76-yard drive in the 4th.

– Chancellor logged a season-high 34 snaps, playing safety in “Bandit” and replacing Thomas as the free safety in base defense in the second half.

– Half of Lewis’ 20 snaps were as an extra corner in nickel and “Bandit” before replacing Trufant at left cornerback in base defense midway through the Giants’ final drive.

– Milloy’s game ended after the Giants went up 38-0.

– Tatupu exited the game after Giants running back Brandon Jacobs lowered his head, causing a helmet-to-helmet contact. Up until this point, Tatupu had played every defensive snap of the season.

– Herring continued in his role as the nickel linebacker before moving into the base defense when Tatupu left the game.

– Hawthorne replaced Tatupu at middle linebacker, and was paired with Herring in one play in nickel defense on the Giants’ final drive.

– In addition to playing strong-side linebacker in base, Curry got three snaps as an inside pass-rusher in nickel defense.

– 46 snaps on Sunday were the norm for Clemons over the last month. Aside from the Chargers and Rams games, Clemons has logged between 46-48 snaps per game this season.

– With Colin Cole and Brandon Mebane inactive, Terrill (64) and Siavii (56) received their most extensive playing time of the season.

– Balmer’s 50 snaps were comprised of 37 snaps at the “5” technique end and 13 snaps at defensive tackle (nose and “3” technique in base, plus the final three snaps on the five-man line).

– Fourth-round pick E.J. Wilson was active for just the second time this season, and his 25 snaps were far more than the 4 he played in Oakland. Wilson played defensive tackle in nickel packages, the nose in “Bandit”, and got his first playing time in base defense in the 4th quarter.

– Signed last week, Richardson was the “5” technique end for 19 of the 56 (33.9%) snaps in base defense.

Personnel Review
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  1. Dukeshire says:

    I thought Tatupu came out simply due to the score. Not good. Hopefully he’ll didn’t suffer a concussion and will be a go for the Cards.

    And I presume Thomas will be a go this week as well. They need him.

    Curry is even less effective at DT. He was simply neutralized, but that’s not entirely unexpected.

  2. 37 offensive plays :-(

  3. CaliSeahawker says:

    This game vs Arizona is a must win. It’s a MUST MUST win. Enough said.

  4. Seahawks2620 says:

    I have a couple of good things and a couple of bad things to say. First of all, I am fed up with the fans being left in the dark. Everyone who contributes to this blog does a wonderful job, but I would like to know more in depth things. For example, has Mebane been out because they are being EXTREMELY careful with his injury, or is he really that hurt? Injuries have clearly affected this team. The starting talent that we had before all of the injuries, was enough to gather a few wins and probably win the West, but the depth is not there. Our defensive line got WORKED! Until Mebane and Cole return, this run defense will continue to give up 100+ yards/game. Locklear is straight garbage! As for some good things, I can’t wait to see Chancellor develop into a stud. He stopped multiple receivers in mid stride dead in their tracks, dude is strong. I have more to say but must get back to work. eghhhh

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Most teams guard injury situations as thought they were the nuclear codes. We’d all love to know that type of “behind the scenes” information.

    Kam played well yesterday, I thought too. I’m impressed that they think enough of him to play him at FS as well.

  6. CaliSeahawker says:

    You know what I think? This season can tank in a hurry if we do not demolish the Cardinals next week. Tampa barely came away with a win last week in ARZ, so unless our offense finds it’s rhythm, we probably don’t stand a chance.

    We also need to heal up quickly this week.

  7. ryanryan says:

    Think of it this way, should we lose this weekend (and we probably will), and the niners hold home court (which they can)…

    Stl 4-5
    Ari 4-5
    Sea 4-5
    49r 3-6

    STILL a wide open division, only in the west…LOL

  8. Palerydr says:

    The thing to remember is that yesterday we were in 1st place in the division. I would think that Carroll and Schneider are extremely pleased with being in that position. I sure am I figured we had little to no chance to be in first at the halfway spot. What they can’t be happy with, just like the rest of us, is the play of our reserves. We have made over 230 transactions to find people who can “compete” for spots on the roster. I would expect there to be many more till we find some depth. What I like most of all is there is a plan in place they know what type of players they want and are actively seeking them. I’m gonna look to the bright side and look for us to somehow pull out a win in Arizona next week who are coming off a very tough loss themselves.

    In an earlier thread a lot of comments were directed to the QB spot. Haas gives us a better chance to win right now and I would expect him to play. Is he the long term answer of course not. Is CW? not without playing time in games that count. Until we are out of it or Haas is inj I wouldn’t expect that to change. The thing that has to improve along with the QB play is the teams play in general they have to stop making mistakes like turning 2 third down stops into 1st downs and fumbling a KR. those plays put us in a 21 point hole we just aren’t good enough to recover from .

  9. Seahawks2620 says:

    Its just absolutely frustrating hearing Carroll week in and week out, telling the fans that there is a “good” possibility that Mebane and Okung (and others) will be practicing by this date or this date. I don’t even want to hear comment on either one of them unless he is saying “Okung and Mebane will start”.

    What I am about to say is very very obvious, but I just want to say it haha. What are our top three needs (it cannot be a grouping such as offensive line)?

    1. We desperately need a right tackle that can run block.
    2. We desperately need a Demarcus Ware on our team. (Chris Clemons is rather inconsistent, serviceable, but inconsistent).
    3. We desperately need Wide outs that will consistently get open.

    It is clear that we “desperately” need a lot of things haha, but those are the most glaring needs in my opinion. QB would probably come next.

  10. Palerydr says:

    @seahawks2620 you may or may not already know this but in short NFL teams hide inj to make the other team spend precious time on preparing for certain players and personnel groupings. Teams are fined for not reporting inj. It’s a really big deal like Duke said they guard that info like nuke “weapons hot” keys.

    All your desperate upgrades are needed but really it’s just not gonna happen this year we just have to get the guys we have to play above their ability and the coaches need to come up with schemes that fit the talent level of the offensive and defensive players/philosophies we have in place now. Nothing’s gonna change much between now and the end of the year personnel wise.

  11. So how does letting Wrotto go early in the year affect us now? I know that some of these guys are better but they haven’t been able to get on the field healthy.

    Here is guy who played well for us and could play multiple positions for us. Sometimes I don’t understand why we are letting some of these guys go before we really have something better on the roster.

    I do think that sometimes the left hand(JS) doesn’t know what the right hand (PC) is doing and then they make some odd choices.

    This line has be so crazy inconsistent it is maddening!! why can they not stop anyone one week (Oakland) but stop a good pass rush the next (NYG). and if you say scheme then I am HIGHLY concerned that our coaches could not make that type of adjustment on the fly!!!!

  12. pabuwal says:

    Of the Top 8 margins of defeat in Seahawks history:

    3 occurred between 2008-2010
    2 between 1980-1981
    2 between 1976-1977
    1 in 1997

    Those 8 games span 5 different coaches – all expect for Tom Flores and Chuck Knox. None of the previous 4 coaches ever made the playoffs in their Seahawks career after landing on that list.

  13. CaliSeahawker says:

    We need Red Bryant back. He was the Tubbs of our run D – and his loss has been felt.

    We need to beat Arizona, and SF needs to beat St. Louis . . .or those two should tie, rather :-)

  14. pabuwal says:

    Why do I keep reading columnists, fans and radio reporters in Seattle saying things like the “Oline blocked great” so what’s Charlie’s excuse? Its not that they blocked great, it’s that Whitehurst dropped back and threw the ball to his first read very quickly.

    The results weren’t much better than when Hasselbeck holds the ball for 10 seconds and takes the sack, but the OL is still the same old line. It’s just that Hasselbeck is a master of making the line look worse than it is, while Whitehurst makes it look better than it is.

  15. On the QB issue I have been a firm supporter of Matt being the best option we have now. (not saying he is long term answer)

    But actually after yesterday, my Opinion of CW has slightly improved. He made some terrible mistakes, but also for a long period of time didn’t make mistakes. He only had one that really cost us. (the first one was entirely on Williams)

    If he does get more time I will be interested to see how he improves (or not) But I won’t be afraid to put him in there.

    I still want Matt to play if we are in playoff contention, but if we are out I want to see Charlie play unless they are planning on resigning Matt to a 1 or 2 year contract.

  16. CW had a hell of a long time to pass yesterday- yes Matt does tend to hold onto the ball too long but at least 4 of the sacks last week came when Matt never had time to set up to throw, as soon as his plant foot hit the ground he was under pressure. That never happened yesterday.

  17. Palerydr says:

    @xcman setting a scheme is like playing in a chess match and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Hawks gave up 35 points in the first half and 6 in the second lots of other factors but they did make adjustments that held the Giants in check. They also gave up no sacks which can be argued was scheme. In the Oakland game we just got manhandled they beat us with players that have for years not played to their potential but this year they are. I believe I can say that Belichick is 1 of the best when it comes to scheming Manning has said for years he admires him for that skill. Yet yesterday he got beat by a rookie QB in his second start. The point I’m making is anyone can get beat sometimes with their scheme.

  18. SandpointHawk says:

    Wrotto is one example and and (IMHO) Unger on IR over turf toe is another example of this team pulling the trigger to early. This is not College (USC) where you have 120 men on the team. At some point we gotta play what we brought.

  19. The OL didn’t protect better guy’s, the Giants went up big early and then just sat back. No need to rush the passer when your sitting on a 21 – 0 lead half way in the first quarter with an extremely unaccurate QB who is getting his first start in 5 years with recievers who can’t seperate or catch. Pretty plain and simple.

  20. Dukeshire says:

    pabuwal – You’ve made that or similar points dozen(s) of times, may I ask what your point is? Is this re-enforcement for your removal of Hass argument? Or are you now suggesting scrapping everything and start over, again? It’s curious to me, almost to the point you seem to enjoy it (although I doubt that is true).

  21. A strong Run-Blocking RT? Wasn’t Ray Willis a strong run blocking Right Tackle? I know he’s on IR right now and I believe he’s a free agent after this year. But do you guys think they will resign him?

    Although I’m certainly not opposed to drafting a RT in the 1st or 2nd round of the draft (I really do think that we need to address the line in the draft), at the same time, getting Willis and Unger back along with a healthy Okung next year could be a much stronger offensive line right there.

  22. I have heard Willis has arthritic knees. Not good.

  23. Well that’s too bad. He seemed like a pretty good player and someone who could help the O-line for sure.

    I still want to see them add to the Offensive line early in the draft. (As I’m sure we all do)

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