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Morning links: Hawks weigh in on illegal hits

Post by Eric Williams on Oct. 21, 2010 at 7:49 am with 16 Comments »
October 21, 2010 7:50 am
Seattle Seahawks receiver Brandon Stokley (JOSE M. OSORIO/CHICAGO TRIBUNE/MCT).

With the focus nationally on the staggering fines meted out by the NFL for three vicious hits over the weekend, the Seattle Seahawks weighed in on the situation Wednesday. Most felt the league is walking a slippery slope when it comes to policing something like helmet-to-helmet hits because of the speed of the game.

“It’s a very fine line that the NFL is tight-roping, but as a player I have a job to do,” Seahawks safety Lawyer Milloy said about the issue. “My job is to try and get the guy down, and to minimize points. It used to be by all means necessary. Going into a game, am I thinking about it? I’d be lying to say that I wasn’t. How do I tackle the guy? Can I have the ‘woo’ hits like Ronnie Lott used to talk about. They’re really taking that out of the game, and it’s a shame.”

Former NFL players Tim Hasselbeck and Dave Wyman weigh in on the issue.

Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes that Milloy, who will be 37 on Nov. 14, is one of the best players on Seattle’s defense right now, and his experiencing a rebirth on the field in his hometown.

Greg Johns of Seattlepi.com writes that Marshawn Lynch has changed the mindset of Seattle’s offense, bring a physical attitude to that side of the ball.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times writes that Lynch and Justin Forsett are the Seahawks version of the odd couple.

Clare Farnsworth of Seahawks.com writes that the Seahawks will focus on containing receiver Larry Fitzgerald this week.

Deon Butler talks with KJR’s Elise Woodward in this audio link.

Arizona Cardinals

Kent Somers of the Arizona republic reports that rookie quarterback Max Hall is ready for the noise at Qwest Field.

Darren Urban of azcardinals.com writes that Arizona receiver Larry Fitzgerald says that playing at Qwest Field is the best environment for him to play in away from home.

More Somers: The Cardinals are getting healthy, with receivers Steve Breaston and Early Doucet returning to practice this week.

Still more Somers: The NFC West will be a much tougher race this year.

St. Louis Rams

Kathleen Nelson of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that fellow Oklahoma teammate Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy says he’s going to get after Rams quarterback Sam Bradford.

Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the Rams have outscored opponents 34-3 in the opening quarter.

Bill Coats of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that rookie receiver Danario Alexander was sore this week in practice after finishing with four catches for 72 yards, including a 38-yard grab for a touchdown in his NFL debut last week against the Chargers. Alexander had a workout with Seattle before joining St. Louis earlier this season.

San Francisco 49ers

David White of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Niners linebacker Patrick Willis is facing bigger offensive linemen coming his way.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com reports that Niners center Eric Hetmann will miss a month with a neck injury.

More Maiocco: New focus on vicious hits won’t slow down San Francisco defenders.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    What I don’t understand about the re-enforcement of the illegal hits, is how are the fines being determined? (Let alone the suspensions that are coming.) Meriweather’s intentional head shot on Todd Heap garners the same fine as a 100% legal and clean, albeit a wicked vicious lick, Dunta Robinson puts on Jackson? That is simply makes no sense to me.

    The picture above is a perfect example; would Harris get a fine (or worse) for a perfectly clean and fundamentally sound tackle on Carlson? Helmets are making contact, after all… I can only imagine what the players are saying behind closed doors.

  2. Somehow this coaching staff figured out that guys who looked like stiffs in the past (Chris Clemons, Jennings, Red Bryant and Milloy, Curry) could be very productive members of a pretty good defense. Who would have thought Milloy could play like this?

  3. Max hall is ready for the nose at Qwest? As I recall, that’s what those 2 rookie o-linemen from SF said before they got here…

  4. bird_spit says:

    Just watched the Meriweather hit. If you have not seen it check out this link. When I watched it, I was convinced that it is near criminal (felony assault) act. He needs fined to the max and suspended.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb1CmHk9GK0

  5. If they want to minimize the big damaging hits they will need to start removing pads, helmets, facemasks.
    Players simply can’t hit as hard if they don’t have the protection.
    Of course there will be the freak Iron Skull guy that can break concrete, but for the majority it would work.

  6. Uh I’m pretty positive the helmets and pads etc protect BOTH players. With the evolution of the human and exercising, I’m sure the pads prevent quite a few broken bones and concussions. 40-50 years ago when people weren’t frequently so big and strong, that may have worked.

    Isn’t football all about big hits? This is rapidly developing into a sissy game, and most of the players admit it. In 5 years its going to be the National Flag Football League.

  7. “Who would have thought Milloy could play like this? ”

    Yeah, reading the article on Milloy, you can tell that starting him (esp alongside a very fast/talented rookie) is another one of the smart moves so far for the Carroll regime. Clemons too – what a total steal he has proven to be in exchange for a guy who was never a factor for us.

    Just read the article on Sando’s blog about Max Hall – and looking at the photo there, it’s pretty crazy that Leinart has gone from the 1st round pick annointed starter, to being completely out of the league. I wonder if he or Jamarcus Russell will ever get another NFL gig.

  8. “Isn’t football all about big hits? This is rapidly developing into a sissy game, and most of the players admit it. In 5 years its going to be the National Flag Football League.”

    I like a good, crushing QB sack as much as the next guy – but, I don’t know, I don’t really like seeing those WR’s getting blindsided in the head – or at least I definitely don’t need to see those hits in order to enjoy the game.

  9. pdway: It’s really not so much NOW, but what’s next? I think Dunta Robinsons hit was legal, and the helmet to helmet contact was unintentional. I don’t think James Harrison played out of proper course, either. The Meriweather hit was somewhat disheartening, but on the other side of that, what if Heap had caught the ball, and squared up his shoulders in the split second it takes to square up your shoulders, and started running (we’re talking a less than 1 second change between what you do if you miss the catch, or grab it)? It would have likely been a legal hit.

    I’m just saying, you can’t sit there and evaluate every play as it happens, you have to do things in anticipation of what CAN happen, not do things after the fact.

  10. “Who would have thought Milloy could play like this? ”

    That’s blasphemy!

  11. Dukeshire says:

    I hear what you are saying, but I don’t think there is any rationalizing the Meriweather hit. He wasn’t just laying the wood to Heap. He intentionally led with his helmet and fired it straight into Heap’s. It was dirty. Meriweather could have dropped his shoulder and just as effectively broken up the play.

    Had Heap caught the ball and squared his shoulders, Meriweather’s not missileing himself like that. He’s actually try and tackle him.

  12. Ewalters7354 says:

    Max hall ready for the crowd noise?? That is funny!I want to see if he is still ready when they get down and have to start throwing.Lol…that’s gonna show exactly how ready he is.Also,i didn’t think Milloy can still play at this level at the age of 37.But it shows what happens when you actually have coaches who know what they are doing.

  13. “I’m just saying, you can’t sit there and evaluate every play as it happens, you have to do things in anticipation of what CAN happen, not do things after the fact.”

    Yeah, I do know what you mean. And it’s often very true that analyzing things that happen at game-speed, in slow-mo, after the fact, can be real unfair. I also have noticed that some helmet-to-helmet collisions are the result of the offensive player instinctively lowering his head, causing what would have been a hit to the chest, to become a helmet to helmet hit.

    All that said, in general, I’m ok with the crackdown, some of those hits (esp when I watch them over and over in the slo-mo replays) kind of make me feel like i’m watching a gladiator match, and I don’t want to admit that.

  14. bird_spit says:

    The Darren Urban article is a must read.

    Given that the AZ QB has never played an away game in the NFL, and the LT has never experienced QWEST, what is the over/under of the number of offsides penalties against AZ. IMO, after a couple of sacks, the OL will be jumpy.

    I think watching this game will be a blast.

  15. CUTLER!!!

    Artificial Turf is the culprit of many unnecessary concussions AND the dreaded ACL tear. Until ‘Mommy Dearest’ (NFL) changes the playing surface they need lay off the players execution in making tackles. What a crock.

    Only taking into account the fined hits by Harrison and Meriweather. Both were exploding through their targets with head down, arms crossed next to the body forearms bursting outwards in a battering fashion. Defenders are taught to dislodge the ball. Next they’ll fine for swatting at the ball to cause fumbles.

    The difference was Heap was airborne. I don’t blame Meriweather for the QB putting Heap into a dangerous situation. Jahvid Best leaped into the end zone for a Cal Bear TD last season and was launched unlike any running back I’ve ever seen. Came down on his head and went into convulsions. I suppose that is the fault of the defenders for attempting to thwart a TD?

    The NFL Network in their coverage of this episode showed another hit at the goal line by Meriweather. He again leads head down with the helmet. This may be the case of a poor tackler(???). But how many times has the opposition benefited from his missed tackles? Head up chest out. Coached from pop warner throughout. Of coarse an aggressive driver is more apt to be involved in an accident but how many would watch a NASCAR event if the drivers were cautious? R.I.P. Dale Earnhardt

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