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LB Hill not at practice, Jones still considering retirement

Post by Eric Williams on April 13, 2010 at 5:07 pm with 29 Comments »
April 13, 2010 5:50 pm

Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll was upbeat and overall pleased with his team’s first workout outside at VMAC.

“What we saw was a really nice practice today,” Carroll said. “Guys were humming around and we didn’t have to stay out there very long. But we got a lot of good work done, and guys felt good about the preparation to get to this point.”

Carroll dealt with a lot of new faces, as the Seahawks had 17 tryout players brought in for the three-day minicamp.

“We’re looking for players,” Carroll said. “We’re looking for guys that can help us. And John has done a great job of scouring the list of available players to try find guys that give us an opportunity to strengthen the depth of our football team.”

And some familiar faces were not around. Veteran defensive end Patrick Kerney announced his retirement, and offensive tackle Walter Jones may soon follow.

“I didn’t get a chance to coach Patrick,” Caroll said. “But I’ve known him for a long time and he’s had a great career. He had tremendous respect for the guys that he played with, and the guy who have coached him. He’s a great guy on the football team and in the locker room. I wish we would have had a chance to keep going with him, but Patrick has made his decision and we wish him the very best.”

Carroll went on to say that the team anticipated Kerney’s retirement announcement and that his absence is just one of many areas that the team will need to address either through the draft of free agency.

On Walter Jones’ status, Carroll had this to say: “I haven’t talked to Walter in awhile now. But the last time I did, he was really considering that he was going to retire, but hadn’t made the final decision enough to come to you guys to make an announcement like Patrick did today. So we’ll just have to wait and see on that one.”

For now, Ray Willis has moved over to left tackle to try and fill the immense shoes left vacant by Jones’ absence. Mike Gibson worked at left guard, Chris Spencer was back at center and Max Unger was back at right guard, while Sean Locklear worked at right tackle with the first unit.

“Crazy Ray” showed up again today, as Willis got into a shoving match twice with popular sparring partner defensive end Lawrence Jackson during the beginning of practice.

The other notable Seahawks not present was linebacker Leroy Hill. Carroll said he has talked toHill, and that both he and general manager asked him to stay home and handled the legal situation he’s in right now. Hill was arrested for his role in a domestic dispute with his live-in girlfriend over the weekend.

“There’s really nothing we can say right now,” Carroll said. “There’s some time that has to take place for him to get it figured out and all. He didn’t need to be with us here in this practice mode. He’s got some work to do and some stuff to deal with. We don’t really have any comment about anything other than that, so we’ll just have to wait and see when other information comes in.”

On the Brandon Marshall front, Carroll did no go into details on the negotiations taking place between Seattle and Denver, and the Seahawks and Marshall’s agent.

“There’s really nothing to report there,” Carroll said. “Nothing much has happened. We’ve done our homework and our research on it, and it’s really kind of not in our hands right now. The Broncos have things to do, and they’ve got to figure it out on their end of it before really anything can happen. We’re just kind of waiting and seeing. We’re on alert, watching it. It’s an interesting situation, so we’ll just have to wait it out.”

Carroll went on to say whether or not tryout guys like Mike Williams or Reggie Williams flash potential should not affect they’re pursuit of Marshall.

“I don’t think anything’s going to happen that’s going to make a difference on any of that,” Carroll said. “I don’t anticipate that.”

Carroll said he’s hopeful to get Lawyer Milloy back in the fold. The veteran safety and Tacoma native is an unrestricted free agent, but played for Carroll at New England.

“I hope so,” Carroll said. “We’ve been talking to Lawyer for some time. He’s an extraordinary football player, and he’s a great aspect of any team he’s on. He’s one of the great competitors I’ve ever been around.”

Some players that shined during camp included former USC product Mike Williams and Reggie Williams, who both made impressive grabs during one-on-one and team drills. Ben Obomanu, filling in for an injured T.J. Houshmandzadeh, also looked like he belong with the first unit. And new defensive end Chris Clemons flashed some quickness during 9-on-7 running drills.

“It’s really a new time for us, and a new day for the Seahawks I hope,” Carroll said. “So it’s exciting. We’re all looking forward to the challenges of it, and the players are a well. It’s a big day. I know it’s just a little minicamp, but to us it’s more than that.”

Notes from practice
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  1. Spencer is back at Center? WTF!

  2. Thanks for the info, Eric…and the update on the Bust Brothers. That’s encouraging. How about Whitehurst? How did this minicamp compare to ones run by Mora?

  3. Even Mora figured out that the team was better off with Unger at Center. This doesn’t bode well for my confidence in the newest clown patrol staff.

  4. For all we know, Unger has a splinter in his thumb. Have some faith.


    I’ve been wondering about Brown. I wonder if the West Coast team is us? I wouldn’t be surprised.

  6. MattandCindy says:

    I wouldn’t be freaked out guys. First practice, completely un-organized. More like a meet and greet mini camp. Unger will be center. Petey knows whats up.
    We can’t let the one good thing ol’ Mora did before he bent us over go to waste, can we BobbyK???

    It’s hard to say Jim Mora was right about something. Makes me feel all funny……

  7. nighthawk2 says:

    “Ben Obomanu, filling in for an injured T.J. Houshmandzadeh, also looked like he belong with the first unit”.

    Considering what’s passing for a first unit, that’s not saying much.

    Mike Williams? Reggie Williams? Willis at left tackle? {reaches for waste basket to puke in}

  8. Dukeshire says:

    “…for an injured T.J. Houshmandzadeh.” Already? I presume one of two things; 1- offseason surgery of some sort. 2- It’s a voluntary mini-camp and just being there is participation enough.

    How did Whitehurst look to you, Eric? Just a general sense…

    Willis and Jackson again? Sando noted that Vallos and Jackson got into it as well.

    What were the D line and LB configurations?

  9. Dukeshire says:

    nighthawk2 – Sando notes the Wrotto saw time at center. Dry heaves?

  10. As others mentioned in the previous post… Lock is at RT for a reason… he’s going to be our RT in ’10. But by having him at RT, it shows me Mr. Happy is serious about putting him in the correct OL position, which worries the hell out of me that Spencer is going back to Center, where he is a waste of space. Also, Unger is a better C than RG. We all know Willis won’t be our LT in ’10. There’s either going to be a trade or an early draft pick who will be there. And I have a feeling that either Pitts, Smiley, or Hamilton will open the season at LG. My only worry right now is that the proven worthless pile of garbage, Spencer, may be playing Center to help ruin another season of OL play.

  11. These coaches aren’t stupid…perhaps, they’re giving Spencer enough room to hang himself at Center. Remember him saying he’s a Center in this league…perhaps, they’re saying….okay prove it. I wouldn’t worry too much…you just may see Unger at Center tomorrow or Thursday.

  12. Lets hope.

  13. Audible – Perhaps Spencer is at Center because the Broncos really need one and he could be in the deal?

  14. Yeah…exactly. We don’t know…it’s just the first mini camp…they’re just getting to know these guys. Unless Gibbs eyesight has gone bad, he’ll clearly see how bad Spencer is at Center.

    But, if we’re going to keep him, and he still thinks he’s a center, that’s a problem.

    Instead of just telling Spencer no, it would be better to collect information and make a case that will persuade him to make the move on his own. Otherwise, they’re just creating an attitude problem. There may be some of that dynamic going on as well.

    it’s not just teaching these guys skiills and schemes…you gotta manage their huge egos too.

  15. Spencer is one of the old timers on the OL and no doubt they reassured him, like they have all of us, that all positions are open to competition. You know Spencer will want to regain his spot as Center. We all know how sensitive he is, so getting moved probably hurt is feelings, not to mention his egocau. bet they move those guys around, so they can get plenty of tape of them doing what these coaches want them to do…then then they’ll no doubt approach players about where they think they should be playing. It’s really just kinda common sense to do it that way because the last hting you want to do is ruin their morale more than it already has been the last couple of years. Spencer is a physical talent and we’re better off if we can help him find his niche on the OL and help him to be happy there.

  16. Dukeshire says:

    Lynch and Forsett are best friends? I understand the Cal connection but they seem like very different people. Boy Bobby, you’re right, this is a brave new world. Do you have to have an arrest record to come to Seattle now? Goodness.

  17. Dukeshire says:

    I like Carroll’s assessment that a (big) part of what these 3 days are about is helping to shape how they see the draft next week. You’ve got to imagine that the heavy lifting, so to speak, is done but some of the smaller details, mid / late round selections will be influenced at least in part by what they see the next couple days. I can’t wait.

  18. Lynchmob had one little misdemeanor gun charge, which may not be such a bad thing if you think about it. If Hamlin was packing that night at Pioneer Square, maybe we would have beat Pittsburgh.

  19. I was reading about Dez Bryant earlier today…guess who his pal is? Pacman Jones. LOL

  20. On a per average snap overall performance at center, Spencer outperformed Unger last season. Unger did great at pass pro at RG but was bad at run-blkg there. When Unger moved to center his pass-blocking fell off a cliff, but his run blocking improved significantly. Still, Spencer outperformed Unger overall at both center and guard last season. Unger has way more upside – expect Spencer should start to decline inna coupla years. Because of the emphasis on run-blocking from Gibbs, you would expect Unger to be the starter at center – the most important position to Gibbs. Maybe just a ‘feeling out’ process by Gibbs to start to see how his OL ingredients can do at different positions?

  21. BrianBlades says:

    It stand to reason that this year’s free agency is featuring the unloading of players with trouble in their past. I don’t believe we’ve signed one yet, although I’m not against it anymore than I want to send Lofa packing (oh yeah, remember that?).

    If you guys were Pats fans you would have gone all granny when they signed Randy Moss…too bad they didn’t have you guys to tell them how to run a team!

  22. Dukeshire – I’m now picturing a dinosaur operated by Fred Flinstone at the Rock Quary with the Sheep dog hearing the whistle blow.

    This team is “Coyote Ugly”
    and a 6er ain’t gonna fix’er

  23. When you’ve won 9 games in two years and have no pro bowlers, you leave no stone unturned trying to improve talent.

    Reggie Willams, Mike Williams, Brandon Marshall, Marshawn Lynch, etc…These coaches plan to keep their jobs and they know they’ve got to put together a talented team soon….Looks like we’re going to be the new Raiders…I think we’re finding an identity.

  24. variable575 says:

    Hey Dukeshire–

    I got the scouting report on Whitehurst for the day.

    Dropped back in the pocket and stood in one spot 80% of the time. When he wasn’t running.

    2 fumbles: 1 Int.

    Ran for a TD

    OK, just a guess.

  25. snydro81 says:

    Bring on the felons! We need toughness. I want us to be the ones doing the kicking, not the ones getting kicked.

    I want a badass, hardass, smashmouth team. F*ck em!

  26. The only reason unger was moved to center was spencer could not make all the snaps required LEFT HANDED! His right hand was injured.

  27. hambone08 says:

    Every time I hear Marshawn Lynch’s name I pthink of him driving the trainer’s cart around after Cal beat UW at home. If he winds up in Seattle, I say Toyota takes the Tundra that usually sits atop the south endzone and parks it somewhere on the sideline for some postgame brodies.

  28. It’s a mini-camp folks! Let the coaches coach and shuffle the line around until they find out what they want.

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