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Rob Sims traded to Detroit

Post by Eric Williams on April 5, 2010 at 10:28 am with 39 Comments »
April 5, 2010 11:23 am
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Rumored to be in the works for weeks, Seahawks restricted free agent offensive guard Rob Sims has been traded to the Detroit Lions. Sims, who reportedly had been kept away from the team’s facility, signed his offer sheet in anticipation of a trade last week.

The Lions reportedly gave up a fifth round pick for Sims’ services. Sims will likely be Detroit’s starting left guard, and joins several former Seahawks now playing for the Lions, including wide receiver Nate Burleson, running back Maurice Morris, linebacker Juliuan Peterson, cornerback Kevin Hobbs, tight end Will Heller and safety Marquand Manuel.

Sims signed his $1.176 million, fourth-round tender last week with the hopes of accelerating a potential trade.

Sims reportedly did not fit in Seattle’s future plans because he is considered not a good fit in the zone-blocking scheme being installed by new offensive line coach Alex Gibbs.

Sims was a favorite of former general manager Tim Ruskell, who is rumored to be joining Chicago’s front office, and had been part of Seattle’s plans moving forward when Ruskell was still with the team.

The 6-foot-3, 312-pound Ohio State product was considered the best blocker up front for an offensive line that struggled to protect quarterback Matt Hasselbeck in 2009. Seattle even considered moving Sims out to left tackle after the team suffered a series of injuries to players at the position, including cornerstone tackle Walter Jones missing all of last season after microfracture knee surgery in December 2008.

Considered a mauler, Sims likely would likely be a better fit in a man-blocking scheme. Sims was a fourth round selection by Seattle out of Ohio State in 2006. He started 34 of 45 games played for the Seahawks.

Sims, 26, missed most of the 2008 season after suffering a torn pectoral muscle against Buffalo in the first game of the year. He came back in 2009 and started in 14 of 16 games.

Seattle now has 10 picks in this year’s draft, two in the first (6 and 14), one in the second (60), none in the third, two in the fourth (104 and 127), two in the fifth (133 and 139), one in the sixth (176) and two in the seventh (213 and 245).

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  1. Bummer…was hoping for Detroit’s 4th rounder.

  2. BrianBlades says:

    Would have like to have seen a 4th for Sims.

    Eric,
    Does it seem like we are getting about a round low for our guys and paying about a round high for our acquisitions? I’m staying positive on this stuff but it seems that way a bit.

  3. At least the pick is a high 5th rounder.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    A 5th makes sense. If they were willing to give a 4th for him, they would have just signed him straight up. The second pick in the 5th? Okay. 2 in the first, 1 in the second, 0 in third, 2 fourths, 2 fifths, 1 in the sixth and 2 sevenths. Not too shabby. Make ‘em count boys.

  5. Since Sims didn’t fit in their plans, I’d say getting the 2nd pick in round #5 is pretty sweet.

    Owen Schmitt was a 5, Will Herring was a 5, DJ Hackett was a 5, Rocky Bernard was a 5.

  6. Are we done in FA? If not, who’s next?

  7. I guess this works – not all that much to get for a 26 y.o. starting Guard, even if he didn’t fit into our scheme – seems like he could still have been depth on the line if nothing else. Who fills this starting spot now? And unknown (at this time) draft pick? I guess this is what re-building feels like.

  8. OCHawkFan says:

    Audible – Im hoping they still might sign one of the FA linemen (ie Ben Hamilton) after the draft.

    The only big FA signing that could happen at the point would be Brandon Marshall though.

  9. Last FA comes after the draft, like Duke said.

  10. Jason Lacanfora @ NFL.com is reporting that there is one other player involved in the Sims deal.

    Any truth to this Eric?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817589f5&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

  11. Does anybody have the overall pick number from DET for Sims?

  12. Are we done picking up draft choices? Who else might go on the trading block?

  13. yankinta says:

    What??? I thought there were 2 other teams interested in Sims…. I don’t get why that would bring the value down, not UP.

    I don’t know the entire story but I’m very disappointed in our front office so far…..

  14. Dukeshire says:

    “I guess this is what re-building feels like.” – Yes, it can be ugly and feel very uncomfortable. But I appreciate their approach. This is not a process they will be dragging out for several seasons. They are doing everything they can to turn this roster over, within reason, this year. I suspect we’ll see something similar next year as well.

  15. That’s alright Eric. I just got the details myself. We traded a seventh rounder for DE Robert Henderson.

    Thanks for the “Inside Stuff” Can’t get this anywhere else!

  16. Dukeshire says:

    klm008 – 133. He was selected 128 in ’06.

  17. (If there’s a next year)

  18. Dukeshire says:

    There will be.

    Thanks jjsnix, was about to add that.

  19. http://www.nfl.com/players/roberthenderson/careerstats?id=HEN130264

    Henderson: A 26-year-old 2nd year player 6’3″ 273 pounds

  20. Sims and a 7th for the #133 and DE Robert Henderson.

    Duke do you know anything about Henderson?

  21. Thanks Audible!

  22. Hawks #245 was a comp pick – no? So DET musta got Hawks #213?

  23. Robert Henderson, DE:
    AGE: 25
    HEIGHT: 6-3
    WEIGHT: 278 lbs
    COLLEGE: Southern Miss

    Originally a 6th round (199th pick overall) draft choice by the Giants in 2008. Spent the entire 2008 season on injured reserve with an ankle injury. Injured his ankle in his NFL preseason debut at Detroit (8/7/2009) and spent his entire rookie season on injured reserve.

  24. That’s quite a resume. Good Lord.

  25. Dukeshire says:

    jjsnix – Everything I know I just read from Stevo. lol.

  26. Duke, I’m disappointed. I would have bet money that you would have had some high school game tape of his down in the vault. lol

    Thanks though!

  27. Dukeshire says:

    Not yet, but I’m on the phone.

  28. Adam Schefter on Twitter:

    “A 2008 sixth-round pick by the Giants, Henderson has yet to play in an NFL game and was never overly impressive in college. The Lions look to be getting something for nothing. He probably wasn’t going to make the team.”

  29. Dukeshire says:

    Here is a breakdown of Henderson’s game by game stats at Southern Miss.

    http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=664&player=91

  30. NFLDraftScout Pre-draft info: DE Robert Henderson (S. Miss)
    37th ranked DE/466th rank overall:
    3-yr starter at “Bandit” position, was largely responsible for run containment. Still managed to register 13.5 sacks and cause 7 fumbles with hard-hitting style of play. True warrior, refused to undergo surgery in ’06, played last 6 games with torn ligaments in both hands before going under knife after Golden Eagles’ GMAC Bowl appearance.
    + Has the ability to play either DE position, very effective coming off the edge from the weak side … impressive speed for a player of his size … gets off the snap adequately and has the balance and leg drive to hold firmly at the point of attack … uses rip and swim moves to split combo blocks and delivers strong arm swipes to stack … stays low to jam the tight ends at the line and has a jarring hand punch to rock the blockers back … possesses the lateral agility needed to make plays in pursuit and is very quick to penetrate from the backside … wraps securely, extending his arms to ensure the ballcarrier goes down … has the knee bend to gain leverage and shows good spin moves to elude … hand punch is evident in the two-gap, as he quickly locks out the blocker … chases with an explosive burst and keeps his balance sliding down the line … has the frame that can easily add 15 pounds with no speed drop-off … long wingspan poses sight problems for the smaller quarterbacks to scan the field and also comes into play with his penchant for deflecting passes and blocking kicks.
    - Struggles at times to defend vs. the run when he fires out too high off the snap … Loses leverage at times because of his height … Age (25) is a concern, along with his struggles retaining plays and digesting a playbook … While fast, he does not accelerate as one would like when rushing the passer … Weight room figures don’t always translate to the football field … Can be easily fooled by misdirection … .When he gets too far upfield in pursuit, it results in large rushing lanes being created for the opposition … Needs to play with more intensity and urgency, as he does throttle down and disappear for long stretches.
    = Reggie Hayward-JAX … Henderson has the ability to get to the quarterback, but plays with an inconsistent motor. Has good initial burst, but labors running long distances. Has very good athletic measurables, but marginal instincts, fails to play up to his timed speed at times.

    Southern Mississippi DL Robert Henderson worked out at his school’s Pro Day Monday, March 24, ’08. Henderson ran a 4.87 and 4.81 40-yard dash, had a 33-inch vertical jump, a nine-foot, six-inch long jump, a 4.53-second short shuttle, a 7.28-second cone drill and completed 22 repetitions on the 225-pound bench press. He measured in at 6-foot-3 1/4 and 278 pounds. Henderson’s arms measured 34 1/8 inches long.

    Career, so far:
    Drafted by Giants in ’08, (hoped for another Tuck-type) signed him Jun ’08, suffered ankle injury in Aug 7 preseason game, IR’d thru ’08.
    Waived by Giants Aug 10, ’09, part of roster cut-down.
    JAX signed him to their PS Sept 15, ’09, waived him Sept 29, ’09.
    DET worked him out Oct ’09, signed him Jan ’10.

  31. chuck_easton says:

    I’m happy with a high 5th for Sims. Funny reading some of the national sights and seeing the Detroit fans are gloating that they “stole” Sims for only a 5th and now they have a solid LG to protect Stafford’s backside.

    How long until we read that Stafford goes out with an injury and the replay shows the defensive player blowing right past Sims?

  32. nighthawk2 says:

    Why is there so much hand ringing over a guy we traded a 7th round pick for? Next there’ll be a parade of fans in sackcloth and ashes.

    As for Sims, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. I guess it’s not his fault that Timmay! was such a lousy judge of football talent and so contemptuous that he thought he plug in a marginal talent like Sims and immediately replace and All-Pro future Hall of Famer like Steve Hutchinson. To Numbskull offensive linemen were a dime a dozen, and Hasselbeck’s got the ribs and discs to prove it.

  33. NH,

    I don’t know about “hand ringing” but it would be nice to pick up players (even in the 7th round) who have two legs and can stay upright.

  34. Sims is a very, very good man-blocking LG who’s had some injury issues – (luckily) TR chose him well. DET got a good deal, and so did Hawks, since Sims also doesn’t fit A.Gibbs requirements for a ZBing OG.

  35. nighthawk2 says:

    Henderson’s injury was in the summer of 2008. So far we don’t even know if it was a sprain or required surgery. Tim Numbskull put Leonard Weaver on injured reserve because of an ankle sprain. No reports of an injury since, so that’s hardly not having two legs and unable to stand upright.

    I don’t remember any good blocking from Rob Sims. He just sucked less than the others. What I remember of him was that he was a turnstile even when Walter Jones was playing next to him. Matt Stafford is going to find that out.

  36. klm008, I agree… not sure of the ‘Sims” bashing here… It’s very likely we will have a lot less talent there this coming season…. Detroit did well with this… At best, we’ll have a mistake prone rookie at LG….

    jjsnix…. Sando sure didn’t give us much on Henderson did he??? If he didn’t, there probably isn’t much to give… I wouldn’t be surprised that we just gave away another draft pick….

  37. nighthawk2-

    At the time, Henderson’s ankle injury was reported as ‘minor’ on KFFL. NYG kept him around on IR ’till the following year. He was reported to have a lack of discipline that probably didn’t sit well with Coughlin.

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