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Tapp trade a sign of things to come?

Post by Eric Williams on March 16, 2010 at 7:25 pm with 28 Comments »
March 16, 2010 7:36 pm

I got a chance to talk to Darryl Tapp this evening after the trade was announced. He’s pretty bummed about having to leave Seattle, but happy for the opportunity he will receive in Philadelphia, likely starting opposite Pro Bowl defensive end Trent Cole.

Tapp recently married a local woman, Tiffany Robinson, and the couple will now be moving to Philadelphia, which is closer to Tapp’s roots on the East Coast but farther from Robinson’s family here in the Seattle area.

Tapp, who signed his restricted free agent tender yesterday, said was surprised by the move.

“I’m kind of shocked,” Tapp said about the trade. “For me, everything that I’ve been hearing was that it was pretty safe to say I was going to be in Seattle, which is where I wanted to be. But things happen in this business and I’m headed to Philadelphia, which is another great opportunity.

“I’m overjoyed to be going to a team of such high caliber as the Eagles. They’re always in there battling for the NFC East title and in the hunt for a Super Bowl. So it’s a great situation.”

The deal occurred just a day after Tapp signed a 1-year, $1.76 million contract with Seattle. But it appears it was a sign-and-trade all along. And instead of Philadelphia giving up a second-round pick to sign Tapp to an offer sheet, the Eagles parted with a fourth round pick and defensive end Chris Clemons instead. Tapp already has negotiated a contract extension with Philadelphia.

As some have mentioned in the comments section, Tapp could have been redundant in Seattle’s defense with the team likely moving Aaron Curry to the “Elephant” position as a stand-up defensive end. Clemons becomes depth at that position, along with Nick Reed and free agent pick-up Ricky Foley.

Clemons is locked up for three more years, and will make $1.2 million in 2010.

The Seahawks also get a fourth-round pick as ammunition in future deals with the team still pursuing restricted free agents WR Brandon Marshall and QB Charlie Whitehurst. Seattle now has eight picks in this year’s draft, including two in the first and two in the fourth, but no third-round pick.

Whitehurst, who has been tendered a third-round level by the Chargers, is reportedly still choosing between Arizona and Seattle, while the Seahawks remain the only team that has shown a clear interest in Marshall.

New Seahawks coach Pete Carroll had spoken highly of Tapp as a building block to his defense, but with Tapp now traded and defensive captain, safety Deon Grant released, Carroll is establishing that status quo is not acceptable and he will do what he believes is necessary to make the team better in the long term. Carroll’s approach is different than the one taken last season by Jim Mora and then-general manager Tim Ruskell, who felt that if they added a few, key pieces to the team’s core players they could still compete for a playoff spot.

UPDATE: According to Mike Florio of, OG Rob Sims will be the next Seahawk to go, and has been held out of the off-season conditioning program in anticipation of a trade, perhaps to Cleveland.

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  1. Well, we already know that Holmgren did not overpay to get Wallace, so should Sims go to Cleveland it is not likely the Hawks will get even his 4th round tender “value.”

  2. Ricky Foley? Chris Clemons? Charlie Whitehurst? What are PC and JS doing?

    It looks like they’re discounting Hawks future envisioned by Holmgren/TR in favor of a vision of their own. What that vision is remains a mystery, for now. Please let it be an NFL-workable vision of an efficient team that can compete inna coupla years.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    As we said in the last thread, this is a house cleaning. I for one would much rather they use these picks in the draft as opposed to trading for Whitehurst (even though a deal has purportedly been reached with San Diego, should he choose Seattle.) Hopefully Whitehurst will feel the Cards not only offer an opportunity to compete for the starting spot but they are closer to being competitive than Seattle, and will choose them.

    D.T. sorry to see you go, good luck in Philly. Perhaps you’ll have the same success there as Weaver; pro bowl.

  4. vichawkfan says:

    how does Whitehurst have control over where he goes? Isn’t that the Chargers call given the offers on the table?
    Tapp is a class guy, same with Sims.

  5. freedom_X says:

    If Sims is drawing “strong interest”, then I think a 5th round pick is possible for him. Either a lineman has some value worth trading for, or none at all. Unless Seattle is convinced Sims could never fit in their system, he’d be worth more to them that a 6th or 7th round pick.

    Tapp seemed to be a great guy (good character and citizen) so it’s sad to see him go from that aspect. Strange that PC would call him a building block then trade him. Personally, if Tapp were just a step faster, he’d be Dwight Freeney – it seemed like he was always around the QB, but just an arm’s length from getting the sack. Many ends can’t even get within sniffing distance of the QB.

  6. vichawkfan says:

    never mind my question re Whitehurst….RFA, get it now.

  7. After two years of football bankruptcy, the fire sale is on!

  8. chrisj122 says:

    It can be difficult to see guys that we watched get drafted or started their careers here in Seattle and maybe have some success get let go or traded, but whenever a new regime comes in that exactly what happens. Holmgren did when he came here 99 and so have others before him, its part of the process.
    Having said that If Sims gets traded I will not miss him one bit. Frankly this OL needs blowing up. The only player that we need to keep is Unger, all the others need to go, the way they performed the last two years has been a joke. To many times our OL could not get a push to gain 1 yard on 3rd and 1, or 4th and 1. Last season we had two games with lowest rushing yards ever for Seahawk team. This needs to be done the sooner the better.

  9. Has there been any talk between PC and Walt?

  10. chuck_easton says:

    As long as draft picks keep coming back I’m ok with all this.

    If it was Tapp for Clemons straight up I would have been more upset. This is a deep draft and it looks like the plan is to build a young team through the draft. Problem is we’ll have to deal with a couple of years of frustration, but how would that differ from the last two seasons?

    Well it would differ because it would be younger guys learning together rather than watching the same old guys just getting older while still not competing.

  11. If Holmgren gives up a pick for Sims — I can hear the rumblings now… “why do we want all of these worthless Seahawk retreads!” LOL.

  12. Hm………… if Curry is going to DE, at least that opens a spot for Hawthorne.

    Good for Tapp, he goes from what’s starting to appear to be a perennial loser to a perennial winner.

  13. maddog12 says:

    Danny O’Neil reporting Matt McCoy LB Tampa signed by Seahawks.

    What could this mean?

  14. BobbyAyala says:

    “Well it would differ because it would be younger guys learning together rather than watching the same old guys just getting older while still not competing.”

    Exactly. You’re already a loser, might as well be building toward something.

  15. Tarcat88 says:

    Tapp actually hung out after one of the summer practices and was kind enough to have his picture taken with my two boys. He seemed like a great guy and I wish him the best.

  16. Seahawks sign Matt McCoy

  17. BobbyAyala says:

    Ask any Virginia Tech fan who their favorite player of all time is, and 75 percent will say Tapp.

    Great guy, sad to see him go, but he’s got a great opportunity to earn a ring in Philly.

    Best of Luck.

  18. BobbyAyala says:

    We’re adding kickoff specialists left and right!

  19. maddog12 says:

    I think they like McCoy for more than just a kick off specialist (though maybe not much more).

  20. From a KJR interview with PC

    Seattle will be sticking to a 4-3 defensive alignment, which is the same system Carroll has been running for over 30 years. However, Carroll said he could use some 3-4 principles within that system, which includes using a stand-up defensive end on the weak side.

    “We can play 4-3 principles, which is what we’ll do, with 4-3 personnel or 3-4 personnel,” Carroll said. “It just depends. Meaning it’s a defensive end vs. an outside linebacker-type.

    “That’s the first thing I took a look at to see what Aaron Curry’s all about. Can he be that kind of player who is an outside rusher, where you would rush him more like two-thirds of the time he’s a rusher and some of the time he’s a dropper. As opposed to the other way where he’s an outside backer, where he drops 80 percent of the time and rushes in pressure situations 20 percent of the time.”

    USC used Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews as stand-up ends during part of their careers with the Trojans, and Seattle used Darryl Tapp and Nick Reed in that capacity at times last season. USC calls this the “elephant position”. But expect Curry to be used in this capacity as well, as Carroll believes he plays better at the line of scrimmage

    So, it looks like he told us what to expect if we couldda read between the lines. Curry replaced Tapp at “elephant”. So, he got value for Tapp who’d become expendable.

  21. If that is Curry’s role, which I expect, he is going to be a great player. IMO he’s not a 80% drop back and 20% rush guy… his strengths are as a 80% rush guy and dropping back 20%… he has a chance to be special in that role. All we saw last year was raw talent and it was impressive. I was not impressed with his play dropping back or in space. Yes, you can blame lack of coaching but I was less than impressed no matter how you look at it. And to think he’s never really been coached to attack/rush like that and you could see the skills oozing out of him; impressive.

  22. klm – in that scenario, I still see value in Tapp. Jackson is going to bulk up and be more of anchor this upcoming season. PC has said so. But Tapp could have spelled him in obvious pass rushing situations. That would have been a good DE duo coming off the edge in pass rush situations.

    Looks like Whitehurst is a liar and won’t have a decision made “within 48 hours” like he had planned on.

    Supposedly, Mr. Happy and Big Walt were scheduled to talk about the big guy’s future the week after the combine… I wonder why nothing is being reported??? Is the conversation a secret? There’s nothing on any site.

  23. Given all the moves, any predictions who else is going to get traded?

    Jennings, Wilson? Locklear, Willis?

  24. BrianBlades says:

    PC is going to use people to their strengths? That would be refreshing, wouldn’t it.

  25. bigmike04 says:

    Sad to see the guy go, but wish the guy luck with Eagles that will be tough place to play in.

    Thought as for Charlie Whitehorse: I hope the guy goes to Arizona as the guy couldnt beat out Voleck for 2nd string and has no expierence in NFL that the guy isnt worth 3rd round pick.

  26. nighthawk2 says:

    Why are posts being deleted?

  27. Why is Sims going to CLE? Is it just trying to get draft picks for use in either drafting or trades, or is it something to do with what Gibbs wants?

    Gibbs has an ideal athletic build for a player in mind. A.Gibbs is not looking for some big fat guy to just absorb defenders. Todd Weiner played at 320# for Hawks, but got down to 290 to play for Gibbs. So is Sims just a big fat guy? Not to me he isn’t. Sims could probably play at below the 312 he’s played at, if he had to.

    Gibbs expects his OLers to have mental toughness. Sims tore his peck apart in the 1st drive of the 1st game of ’08 and played the rest of the game with one arm. That seems mentally tough to me. He played really bad that game, but you know it had to hurt.

    Gibbs expects his players to move. They have to be athletic. Gibbs has a whole system that he attaches to what he does. If the player can’t move, he can’t play in Gibbs’ system. Sims was the only player who run-blocked above average in Solari’s version of the ZB scheme last season. He always seemed pretty athletic to me. He got to his blocks quick and was the only Hawk getting to his 2nd level blocks last season.

    Gibbs expects his OLers’ I.Q.s to be higher than normal. That I don’t know about.

  28. BobbyK:

    Curry was used as a zone linebacker in college hence the 7 career INTs.

    PC sure fooled me on this whole Tapp thing, I thought he really liked the guy in his scheme. I hope this shuts everybody up about the whole 3-4 thing on D. I have noted before in this blog that I read a transcript from the Nike Coaches Conference a few years back when PC spoke at length about the Elephant position and how he disguises a 4-3 into a 3-4 “hybrid” and the effects it has on opposing offenses. Personally, I think the guy is a defensive play writing genius.

    PC said right after he was hired that 30 percent of the “current roster” will be turned over. Schneider said when he was hired that he prefers to build a team through the draft. It amazes me how a lot of people wonder if the Hawks are going to build their team through the draft. Read the paper folks.

    The more aggressive this team gets, the more I start to like and believe in what this tandem is about to accomplish. Look at what Holmgren is doing in Cleveland (blowing it up) and be glad that the Hawks lowballed him so that he would say no.

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