Comments on: Wednesday practice report: S Grant practiced, will play on Sunday http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/ Where there is no off season Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:59:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: FireRuskellNow http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9898 FireRuskellNow Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:45:44 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9898 "In fairness, so was Holmgren. That's why I think an entirely new set of eyes would do us some good.. " Yes but Holmgren actually had excellent offenses. Ruskell's fingerprints are all over this defense and they are PATHETIC!!!! "In fairness, so was Holmgren.

That's why I think an entirely new set of eyes would do us some good.. "

Yes but Holmgren actually had excellent offenses. Ruskell's fingerprints are all over this defense and they are PATHETIC!!!!

]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9855 BobbyK Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:17:35 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9855 Duke - as it stands right now, to answer your question, and assuming we can't trade up/down... I would personally go with the best available OL or DL... if it turns out to be a DE like Derrick Morgan or DT such as Mount Cody (if we are serious about a potential 3-4), so be it. I like the best available lineman approach (although I'm starting to think Cody might be there with the Denver pick). Whichever side of the line we address first, I'd really like to go to the other side of the line with the second 1st rounder we have. If we go DL with our pick, then I'd like an OT with the Denver pick. If the Bronco pick turns out to be 15-18 (about where I think it will end up... but I'm hoping for 10-15), I think one of those 2nd tier OTs like Campbell or Bulaga (if he comes out) will be there. As much as I want a good RB to pair with Forsett and as much as I want a FS... I'd really like to add a LG in the second round... If we could have a 22 year old LT, a 22 year old LG, and a 23 year old Max Unger at C... that would be a great investment for the next decade. We all complain about continuity on any OL so I'd love to build a unit that we wouldn't have to worry about for 10 years. Duke - as it stands right now, to answer your question, and assuming we can't trade up/down... I would personally go with the best available OL or DL... if it turns out to be a DE like Derrick Morgan or DT such as Mount Cody (if we are serious about a potential 3-4), so be it. I like the best available lineman approach (although I'm starting to think Cody might be there with the Denver pick). Whichever side of the line we address first, I'd really like to go to the other side of the line with the second 1st rounder we have. If we go DL with our pick, then I'd like an OT with the Denver pick. If the Bronco pick turns out to be 15-18 (about where I think it will end up... but I'm hoping for 10-15), I think one of those 2nd tier OTs like Campbell or Bulaga (if he comes out) will be there. As much as I want a good RB to pair with Forsett and as much as I want a FS... I'd really like to add a LG in the second round... If we could have a 22 year old LT, a 22 year old LG, and a 23 year old Max Unger at C... that would be a great investment for the next decade. We all complain about continuity on any OL so I'd love to build a unit that we wouldn't have to worry about for 10 years.
]]> By: snydro22 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9849 snydro22 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:03:43 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9849 In fairness, so was Holmgren. That's why I think an entirely new set of eyes would do us some good.. In fairness, so was Holmgren.

That's why I think an entirely new set of eyes would do us some good..

]]> By: eyeland http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9846 eyeland Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:04:07 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9846 You just can't focus on one side of the ball and Ruskell is guilty as Sin for doing that. You just can't focus on one side of the ball and Ruskell is guilty as Sin for doing that.
]]> By: Dukeshire http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9844 Dukeshire Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:42:51 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9844 Bobby - I really don't like reposting, so I apologize, but I put this in an earlier thread on Monday about the draft. Just my general thoughts... Dukeshire says: NOVEMBER 23, 2009 AT 2:48 PM Agreed. But what players they take are all conjecture now, so it's difficult to project, this far in advance. Despite that how about this: Let's say Okung and Suh are gone (likely) by the time their 1st pick comes, where do you go? Someone like Bruce Campbell (Maryland) or Trent Williams (Oklahoma) by all reports are NFL ready and could step into LT at the start of camp. Or do you address the DL in this position (pick 6ish) with Gerald McCoy (DT, Oklahoma) or Carlos Dunlop (DE, Florida) waiting until later in the 1st to address the o line? Both areas are great needs but I feel if they go o-line first that allows them greater flexibility with their 2nd first rounder. Someone like Jahvid Best (RB, Cal) or even CJ Spiller (RB, Clemson) would be very tempting. Or then address the d line with Greg Hardy (DE Mississippi) Arthur Jones (DT Syracuse) or whomever. But if you address the d line first, I think you're then tied to taking a o lineman at the end of the 1st. No flexibility. So for me, not only is the o line the greatest area of need but if you're comfortable with whose left after Okung is gone, you have to pull the trigger. For what it's worth... Bobby - I really don't like reposting, so I apologize, but I put this in an earlier thread on Monday about the draft. Just my general thoughts...

Dukeshire says:
NOVEMBER 23, 2009 AT 2:48 PM
Agreed. But what players they take are all conjecture now, so it's difficult to project, this far in advance. Despite that how about this: Let's say Okung and Suh are gone (likely) by the time their 1st pick comes, where do you go? Someone like Bruce Campbell (Maryland) or Trent Williams (Oklahoma) by all reports are NFL ready and could step into LT at the start of camp. Or do you address the DL in this position (pick 6ish) with Gerald McCoy (DT, Oklahoma) or Carlos Dunlop (DE, Florida) waiting until later in the 1st to address the o line? Both areas are great needs but I feel if they go o-line first that allows them greater flexibility with their 2nd first rounder. Someone like Jahvid Best (RB, Cal) or even CJ Spiller (RB, Clemson) would be very tempting. Or then address the d line with Greg Hardy (DE Mississippi) Arthur Jones (DT Syracuse) or whomever. But if you address the d line first, I think you're then tied to taking a o lineman at the end of the 1st. No flexibility. So for me, not only is the o line the greatest area of need but if you're comfortable with whose left after Okung is gone, you have to pull the trigger. For what it's worth...

]]> By: kevin http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9843 kevin Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:32:49 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9843 Yea our records indicate (13-3, 10-6, 9-7, 4-12, 6-10 this year maybe) how terrible both lines have declined. We've went up in skill on every level except safety, and downward spiraled on the d-line and the o-line (colin cole... Seriously??) Yea our records indicate (13-3, 10-6, 9-7, 4-12, 6-10 this year maybe) how terrible both lines have declined. We've went up in skill on every level except safety, and downward spiraled on the d-line and the o-line (colin cole... Seriously??)
]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9840 BobbyK Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:03:20 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9840 And it's been since '05 that we were any good on the OL... you'd think we could figure it out... And it's been since '05 that we were any good on the OL... you'd think we could figure it out...
]]> By: Audible http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9834 Audible Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:27:51 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9834 I'll be so glad when we can put our OL problems behind us. I'll be so glad when we can put our OL problems behind us.
]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9832 BobbyK Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:09:51 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9832 In a perfect world, we could trade Curry for Joe Thomas or Michael Oher. Even if we have to throw something else in, I don't care. We could trade both of our 1st rounders to the team with the #1 pick and their #1 overall pick in the 2nd round and draft Suh, FS, LG. In FA, we sign Jahri Evans (the 2nd best guard in the NFL). Basically, in that scenario, we'd have an OL of: LT Oher/Thomas LG Johnson (Alabama, LG) C Unger RG Evans RT Lock/Willis IMO --- this is the best OL in the NFL if Walt is healthy (which puts Thomas/Oher at LG for a year and Johnson as depth) and is still damn good even if Walt can't play (which none of us expect anymore, anyways). In a perfect world, we could trade Curry for Joe Thomas or Michael Oher. Even if we have to throw something else in, I don't care.

We could trade both of our 1st rounders to the team with the #1 pick and their #1 overall pick in the 2nd round and draft Suh, FS, LG.

In FA, we sign Jahri Evans (the 2nd best guard in the NFL).

Basically, in that scenario, we'd have an OL of:
LT Oher/Thomas
LG Johnson (Alabama, LG)
C Unger
RG Evans
RT Lock/Willis
IMO --- this is the best OL in the NFL if Walt is healthy (which puts Thomas/Oher at LG for a year and Johnson as depth) and is still damn good even if Walt can't play (which none of us expect anymore, anyways).

]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/25/wednesday-practice-report-s-grant-practiced-will-play-on-sunday/comment-page-1/#comment-9831 BobbyK Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:59:57 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1380#comment-9831 Duke - That's such a tough queston. It depends on FA. And my love for Suh. I'd give anything to trade for him... but I also know OL is more important at the moment... if we could go Suh, Bulaga (LT), and Johnson (LG) with our 3 picks in the top 40 (I know we'd have to trade down with the Denver 1st rounder though and Bulaga may not be there)... I'd be thrilled with that. But I hate missing out on a playmaker like Spiller or a potential FS who can actually take a good angle on a tackle or INT a pass (gulp). I believe LT is more important than DT... but I don't trust Okung, whereas I do with the Nebraska boy. If I knew it was between Walt and Warren Sapp... I easily pick Walt. But in this scenario, I trust Suh. I remember me and you both talking about Myron Rolle last year... at this point, I actually think he may be there with our 4th rounder. I'd love that. Duke - That's such a tough queston. It depends on FA. And my love for Suh. I'd give anything to trade for him... but I also know OL is more important at the moment... if we could go Suh, Bulaga (LT), and Johnson (LG) with our 3 picks in the top 40 (I know we'd have to trade down with the Denver 1st rounder though and Bulaga may not be there)... I'd be thrilled with that. But I hate missing out on a playmaker like Spiller or a potential FS who can actually take a good angle on a tackle or INT a pass (gulp).

I believe LT is more important than DT... but I don't trust Okung, whereas I do with the Nebraska boy. If I knew it was between Walt and Warren Sapp... I easily pick Walt. But in this scenario, I trust Suh.

I remember me and you both talking about Myron Rolle last year... at this point, I actually think he may be there with our 4th rounder. I'd love that.

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