Comments on: Wednesday practice report: Trufant, Wilson out http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/ Where there is no off season Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:28:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: pdway http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9183 pdway Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:28:08 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9183 "It was a strategy. Obviously it didn't work. It failed. I'm just tired of hearing people say Ruskell didn't try, or didn't value Hutch. They tried and failed, and none of it would have happened if Hutch had not wanted out. Hutch made things as hard on the team as he could, and he got out. Please don't let this suggest I'm defending Ruskell. We are talking about a failure here, afterall. I'm just trying to get the history straight." Right. Anyway, I suppose the Hutch talk was inevitable given that we're playing his team . . . we all know it's time to move on from this issue. What we need to think about is the new 0-Lineman we're gonna find. . . “It was a strategy. Obviously it didn’t work. It failed. I’m just tired of hearing people say Ruskell didn’t try, or didn’t value Hutch. They tried and failed, and none of it would have happened if Hutch had not wanted out. Hutch made things as hard on the team as he could, and he got out.

Please don’t let this suggest I’m defending Ruskell. We are talking about a failure here, afterall. I’m just trying to get the history straight.”

Right.

Anyway, I suppose the Hutch talk was inevitable given that we’re playing his team . . . we all know it’s time to move on from this issue. What we need to think about is the new 0-Lineman we’re gonna find. . .


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]]> By: Dukeshire http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9176 Dukeshire Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:08:44 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9176 No worries Stevos - We may disagree on the particulars but we are in agreement on our overview of the situation and Ruskell's misjudgment. No worries Stevos – We may disagree on the particulars but we are in agreement on our overview of the situation and Ruskell’s misjudgment.

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]]> By: princeaden http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9175 princeaden Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:58:49 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9175 IMO the talent level from team to team in the NFL is very close. The main difference between winning and losing is preparation, game planning and confidence as a team that you can win. I heard Mora say to Tony V. that like Holmy, the first 15 plays or so are scripted. It seems to me after those 15 plays are gone the offense loses it's creativity and the playcalling can't adjust accordingly as the game unfolds. Same for the Defense(although I would like to see them press the WR and blitz the QB more and stay w/it). IMO the talent level from team to team in the NFL is very close. The main difference between winning and losing is preparation, game planning and confidence as a team that you can win. I heard Mora say to Tony V. that like Holmy, the first 15 plays or so are scripted. It seems to me after those 15 plays are gone the offense loses it’s creativity and the playcalling can’t adjust accordingly as the game unfolds. Same for the Defense(although I would like to see them press the WR and blitz the QB more and stay w/it).

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]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9174 BobbyK Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:37:45 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9174 For the record, I love Matt, Hutch (still), Terrill (so long as he's a back-up), and Josh. I like Tru. I'm also one of the few who want to give Ruskell/Mora 1 more year. But, yeah, I know you're not talking about just me and I don't care for Deion, Cole (just b/c he's terrible)... Peace. Love. War. But peace is the best option (or love... too early to think deeply). Stevos - peace out:) For the record, I love Matt, Hutch (still), Terrill (so long as he’s a back-up), and Josh. I like Tru. I’m also one of the few who want to give Ruskell/Mora 1 more year. But, yeah, I know you’re not talking about just me and I don’t care for Deion, Cole (just b/c he’s terrible)…

Peace. Love. War. But peace is the best option (or love… too early to think deeply).

Stevos – peace out:)


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]]> By: mocarob http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9170 mocarob Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:59:38 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9170 I can't believe how much you guys hate everybody. Hate hate hate. Housh, Ruskell, Deion, Josh, Trufant, Matt, Hutch, Wyman, Cole, Terrill, Mora Wah. I think some things need to change at the end of the year too but this wining is too much. Although the team got worked at the end, We played better vs the Cards this time (on the road) and I expect them to get better this weekend too. Cards are a good team.. WHen you guys say were gonna get our asses kicked up & down the field are you talking about a score of 45-0? 30-10 or what? Think it will be worse than against the Lions last week? 27-10? I can’t believe how much you guys hate everybody.
Hate hate hate.
Housh, Ruskell, Deion, Josh, Trufant, Matt, Hutch, Wyman, Cole, Terrill, Mora
Wah.

I think some things need to change at the end of the year too but this wining is too much.
Although the team got worked at the end, We played better vs the Cards this time (on the road) and I expect them to get better this weekend too. Cards are a good team.. WHen you guys say were gonna get our asses kicked up & down the field are you talking about a score of 45-0? 30-10 or what? Think it will be worse than against the Lions last week? 27-10?


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]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9169 BobbyK Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:53:27 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9169 Oh, by the way, the Wyman read is one of the dumbest reads I've ever read in my life. I am actually dumber for having read it. I used to respect the guy, but don't anymore. I guess I should respect Wyman for playing in the NFL. I used to. That means I know nothing compared to former NFL players. Don't worry, I'll never claim to be smarter than Warren Moon (unless I beat my wife), Rae Carruth (unless I decide to kill her [or the other her] if she's having a kid I don't want), Lawrence Phillips (MoronsRUs), etc. Oh, by the way, the Wyman read is one of the dumbest reads I’ve ever read in my life. I am actually dumber for having read it. I used to respect the guy, but don’t anymore.

I guess I should respect Wyman for playing in the NFL. I used to. That means I know nothing compared to former NFL players. Don’t worry, I’ll never claim to be smarter than Warren Moon (unless I beat my wife), Rae Carruth (unless I decide to kill her [or the other her] if she’s having a kid I don’t want), Lawrence Phillips (MoronsRUs), etc.


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]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9168 BobbyK Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:40:45 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9168 You want "the truth?" You can't handle the truth. Lets be Dave Wyman... lets talk about the short yardage situation against the Redskins in '05... Lets not forget that we seemed to run the ball over LG/LT about 939,498,394,493,282,490,993 other times on short yardage situations during '05 and seemed to make them all. Lets not forget that when Walt was in him prime (still) and he had a moron of a partner (Sims, Wahle, etc.) that the Hawks sucked in those very situational comparisons. Oh, wait, lets be Wyman and conveniently forget those parts (note sarcasm). I thought Alex Gibbs, when he still had his original brain, and hadn't retired from the NFL about 1,000 times, used to be a good/great NFL OL coach. Of course, Dick Stockton used to be a good announcer too (like the 1980s). At this rate, any team paying a guard over minimum wage will cut their players at the end of the season (sarcastic prediction). I bet Adrian Peterson will be pretty excited that the Vikings get rid of that worthless piece of crap LG of theirs after the year. Afterall, he's just a guard. He sucks. Any guard in the Hall of Fame should be removed. They don't count. Lets ask Colin Cole on Sunday afternoon how crappy Hutch is (that is, if Cole can still walk/talk after getting his ass kicked up and down the Metrodome). You want “the truth?” You can’t handle the truth.

Lets be Dave Wyman… lets talk about the short yardage situation against the Redskins in ’05… Lets not forget that we seemed to run the ball over LG/LT about 939,498,394,493,282,490,993 other times on short yardage situations during ’05 and seemed to make them all. Lets not forget that when Walt was in him prime (still) and he had a moron of a partner (Sims, Wahle, etc.) that the Hawks sucked in those very situational comparisons. Oh, wait, lets be Wyman and conveniently forget those parts (note sarcasm).

I thought Alex Gibbs, when he still had his original brain, and hadn’t retired from the NFL about 1,000 times, used to be a good/great NFL OL coach. Of course, Dick Stockton used to be a good announcer too (like the 1980s). At this rate, any team paying a guard over minimum wage will cut their players at the end of the season (sarcastic prediction).

I bet Adrian Peterson will be pretty excited that the Vikings get rid of that worthless piece of crap LG of theirs after the year. Afterall, he’s just a guard. He sucks. Any guard in the Hall of Fame should be removed. They don’t count.

Lets ask Colin Cole on Sunday afternoon how crappy Hutch is (that is, if Cole can still walk/talk after getting his ass kicked up and down the Metrodome).


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]]> By: Stevos http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9167 Stevos Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:15:24 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9167 Another take on the Hutchinson debacle. 'the truth' from LB Dave Wyman. A good read. http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=292&sid=243909 Another take on the Hutchinson debacle. ‘the truth’ from LB Dave Wyman. A good read.

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=292&sid=243909


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]]> By: Stevos http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9166 Stevos Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:11:09 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9166 Yes Duke you're right that they could match an offer based on either the franchise tag or the transition tag. But almost nobody ever offers a contract to a player with a franchise tag. Its the transition tag players that teams go after and make offers to. That's why the Seahawks thought the transition tag would give them a multi-year contract to match. It was a strategy. Obviously it didn't work. It failed. I'm just tired of hearing people say Ruskell didn't try, or didn't value Hutch. They tried and failed, and none of it would have happened if Hutch had not wanted out. Hutch made things as hard on the team as he could, and he got out. Please don't let this suggest I'm defending Ruskell. We are talking about a failure here, afterall. I'm just trying to get the history straight. Yes Duke you’re right that they could match an offer based on either the franchise tag or the transition tag. But almost nobody ever offers a contract to a player with a franchise tag. Its the transition tag players that teams go after and make offers to. That’s why the Seahawks thought the transition tag would give them a multi-year contract to match.

It was a strategy. Obviously it didn’t work. It failed. I’m just tired of hearing people say Ruskell didn’t try, or didn’t value Hutch. They tried and failed, and none of it would have happened if Hutch had not wanted out. Hutch made things as hard on the team as he could, and he got out.

Please don’t let this suggest I’m defending Ruskell. We are talking about a failure here, afterall. I’m just trying to get the history straight.


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]]> By: BobbyK http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2009/11/18/wednesday-practice-report-trufant-wilson-out/#comment-9162 BobbyK Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:04:38 +0000 http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/?p=1290#comment-9162 excite - I hate it when people put words in my mouth. I'm sorry, but your post seemed to insinuate that not having Hutch wasn't a big deal since we had Sims. I think Lock is to LT (compared to Walt) as Sims is to LG (compared to Hutch). Both options suck. The only reason one sucks more is because Walt is probably done, whereas Hutch is still the best guard in the NFL and is still going to Pro Bowls. If we still had him, we wouldn't have a need (and if Sims were at RG... we'd all be talking about how great our interior OL is with Hutch/Unger/Sims... instead all we can talk about how our entire line sucks). Even though it pains me not to have Walt, I understand the circumstances (health) whereas Huch is more to do with stupidity of Ruskell. Hutch is healthy and fine. excite – I hate it when people put words in my mouth. I’m sorry, but your post seemed to insinuate that not having Hutch wasn’t a big deal since we had Sims. I think Lock is to LT (compared to Walt) as Sims is to LG (compared to Hutch). Both options suck. The only reason one sucks more is because Walt is probably done, whereas Hutch is still the best guard in the NFL and is still going to Pro Bowls. If we still had him, we wouldn’t have a need (and if Sims were at RG… we’d all be talking about how great our interior OL is with Hutch/Unger/Sims… instead all we can talk about how our entire line sucks). Even though it pains me not to have Walt, I understand the circumstances (health) whereas Huch is more to do with stupidity of Ruskell. Hutch is healthy and fine.

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