Jim Mora has just started his press conference and started with the announcement that Matt Hasselbeck does indeed have a fractured rib.
Mora wouldn’t speculate how long Hasselbeck would be out for.
He didn’t rule him out for Sunday.
“You assume that Seneca will be playing on Sunday,” Mora said. “I’m not ready to make that assumption yet.”
When asked to put a percentage chance of Hasselbeck playing on Sunday, Mora said he couldn’t.
Sean Locklear, Josh Wilson both have high ankle sprains. Justin Griffith has a sprained MCL.
Mora is so awful at judging a players injury…
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He also does not give us any leads what so ever
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Got to figure he’ll miss at least one game if not more.
Glad it’s not his back.
It’s real tough for a back-up QB to come in mid-game and have the timing, etc., to be successful. Seneca will be better with a full week working with the 1st unit. He’s not Matt, but he’s an above-average back-up quarterback. With Indy the following week, I think the Bears game shapes up as an important one for us.
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Mora sounds extremely stressed out in his interview. Sort of over whelmed.
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Now Lock and Wilson – Why is the earth crumbling beneath my feet.
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High ankle sprains can take WEEKS to heal as they usually also involve some ligament damage. If Walter and maybe Spencer are ready to go this weekend Locklear isn’t that big a deal as the line would be Walter, Sims, Spencer, Unger, Willis.
I’m more concerned about Wilson. Jennings appears to be coming into his own, but that leaves nobody as the nickel CB. That is unless they put Milloy in at safety and move Babs back to nickel.
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Very few things were answered in light of this last game that saw our Seahawks out-played, out-planned, and out-executed.
1. Jordan Babineaux is not the answer to replacing Russel. In fact in my opinion he is a downgrade.
2. Red Brayant is not the stud we thought he was to “shut down” the run game. He played well, however he was single handedly isolated by the RT, and fully taken out of the equation on Gores first gash for 6.
3. Lawrence Jackson – is one game away from solidifying a spot as a top of the line rotation guy. 1 is fluke, 2 is a coincedence, 3 is a trend. A good trend that will be.
4. Justin Forsett – - Lets delve a little deeper on why he should be seeing the ball more.
Justin Forsett takes on 2/3 of the niner defense to the doorstep of our endzone:
Ist level: Good – He takes the hand off in full stride at 85% speed (which isn’t the fastest), Makes his hole selection and first cut at 95% speed. By the time he hits the hole he is at 100% speed and just a tick fast enough to squirt by the DT&LE who have just recovered from the (just ok) cut block from Unger.
2nd level: Great – This is where Forsett does what he does best. Instead of cutting he shakes/shifts at full speed. Very small changes in direction that make tacklers take bad angles. He gets first contacted 3 yards behind the 1st down marker by LB(cut blocked by willis was good) who cannot arm tackle him. Shifts and makes the next two tacklers take bad angles taking eachother out. (1st contact released at this point). 3 would be tacklers…scratch
3rd level: Amazing – Justin makes it 1 yard past the first down marker. Safety squares up and Justin trucks him head on. Safety lands flat on butt with justin still wrapped. Almost simultaneously the DEFENSIVE TACKLE (cut by unger) Wraps up justin from behind. Little Justin then proceeds to to carry the DEFENSIVE TACKLE and drag the trucked safety 4 more yards! As he slows it takes the other safety and a corner to stop progress taking 4 people to stop Justing Forsett after gaining 14 yds.
The difference of Julius and Justin is at that 1st level. Either Julius has been too indecisive of his holes, or he cannot accelerate fast enough to hit them. After looking at the game again it seems as though he is indecisive. He has the speed to hit the hole, he just needs to sell out and trust that the OLine will have something for him.
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Well if we get Big Walt and Spencer back this week, I’m actually more concerned about Tatupu’s availability for next Sunday than I am with Matt’s. The drop off from Tatupu to Hawthorne is much greater than Matt to Seneca, and with the 12th man I am still confident that we can head to Indy at 2-1.
The difference between 3-1 (hey, it’s possible) and 1-3 is HUGE, not mathematically, but pschologically for sure.
By the way, the reason Vallos looked decent last year was because the Seahawks were DEAD LAST in snaps from the shotgun formation. I like the guy and have always rooted for him, but with how fast the game is now, our QB’s cannot be taking their eyes off of the defense for even half a second (at least) with each snap.
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Mora barely answered sheeeeeeit! We basically know now what we know before the press conference. UGH!!!!!!!
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I heard some guys where saying the LoJack should be cut and he’s a bust this off-season, true?
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Forsett is a poor man’s Gore with no speed.
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Let’s throw in the towel! It’s over!
2 games into the season…I think not. Given the rash of injuries to key front-line players this team reacted as you would expect gutting it out and minus the big pays I would argue they performed admirably. Did they make mistakes? Sure. But for the greater part of that game these guys played a stoked and well-prepared team pretty effectively. Take away (MLB)Willis and either DB along with QB Hill and lets see how they would have performed. I argue they would not have performed as well as we did. That being said, injuries are part of the game and we have to pick up the peices and move on until those peices come back.
Placing the lions share of blame on one guy (Babs) for Gores gallops is ridiculous. As Mora indicates playing your gaps is key in executing an eightman in the box scheme to stop the run. Knowing the chances in putting up such a front if you leave a gap a good back such as Gore can and often does make you pay. On one of the plays Curry did overrun the play but just slightly and was poised to step back to make up for that quickness when the left tackle got a good hold of his jersey and “held” him up enough turning him just enough for Gore to clear the gap and dance into the secondary.
I’m not here to make make excuses but give credit to the 49ers for making plays. At the same time its a long season ans as physical as the season has been to this point across the league other teams will likely experience what the Seahawks have had to experience thus far…making do with what you got.
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I just peeved that Mebane was able to do a “meet and greet” with Gore Yesterday.
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Seattle Seahawks — The team of glass. I’m really tired of looking at injury reports on 10+ of our players, with our opponents listing 2-4 guys, most of them probable. Not to say other teams don’t get key injuries (look at the Philly QB position), but it’s extraordinary how many starters we’ve had injured the last 2 years.
I can’t figure out if it’s bad luck or not, but with how the Jets treated Favre’s arm last year (albeit a clear violation of NFL rules), it seems to me that the Hawks are a fair bit more cautious and “by the book” when it comes to handling injuries. It’s great, and ethical, and in the long-term interests of the players, but it does not accrue to the W column against teams that might push their best players out there with minor (or not so minor) injuries week after week.
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What’s the time line on hasselbeck. Is it up to the player to make the call. Knowing Mora he will say it’s a game time decision and a half hour from game time Eric will post inactives and hasselbeck will be on it.
We have to beat the bears. I have spent all summer excited about the hawks. I can’t exept that this years over. I wish these players would start hitting people and stop getting hit. Becuase these injurys are stuped and I think it meens we are soft.
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“Forsett is a poor man’s Gore with no speed.”
I think Forsett is more in the mold of David Meggett, probably not the straight ahead power to be your every down guy, but his cuts are sharper/quicket than Gore. And he’s small, but tougher to bring down than you would think.
It’s a tough loss – but when you lose your QB and your MLB in the same game – not to mention the other guys we lost, it is a lot to overcome. It’s not an excuse, it’s not like this loss doesn’t count in the standings, but it is an explanation. And yes, if we continue to lose key guys all year, then no doubt, the losses will pile up.
I see critiques on here of our conditioning/training, but conditioning isn’t going to prevent broken ribs or spained ankles.
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Give the Seahawks a break on the injury status issue. This isn’t a video game. Injuries have to be diagnosed and recovery rates are only estimates. I think the Seattle org has given as much information as they can, and have been honest about it.
They haven’t been Belichickian or Manginian in deception. This is medicine. Human recovery varies, and some issues are not known until further tests or exploratory surgery is done. And they aren’t going to subject their players to exploratory surgery just to give an assured diagnosis to a fantasy football pencil-neck.
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Was anything said regarding the extent of Tatupu’s injury???
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Gore is not known for breakaway speed either. It’s just that any NFL runner that can hit a hole clean and accelerate without having to cut again, will make a big play.
Forsett physically could have taken those Gore runs the distance too, and I think Julius Jones could too (he had the 62 yarder last week, same type of run as Gore – get past the line of scrimmage, then just turn it on in a straight line.)
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pdway,
Of course it’s the conditionings fault! If the team was better conditioned Willis’ hit on Matt’s back would have broken Willis’ shoulder. Also Locklear and Wilson could have done ankle strenghtening exercises all summer long to prevent those sprains.
Oh, and did I mention the injuries are all Ruskell’s fault because he obviously drafts guys that get hurt. I’m sure he goes around to the hospitals looking! “Hey you, the big guy with the leg in a cast…want to play football for Seattle?”
[SARCASM/ now off]
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You play soft you get hurt. You play hard you don’t. 49ers had no injurys. They played fast and hard.
All these injurys can’t be bad luck there gas to be sonthing Seattle is doing.
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I’m Glad Coach isn’t telling everything, He shouldn’t either. there are rules that say when teams have to disclose injuries, the coaches wait until that time to do it. Except for Mangenius and the Jets
Yea we want to know right now. but so does the other team.
The longer you can wait to tell them the more they have to practice for 2 people instead of one, it’s all part of the game.
Pretty sure everyone is thinking Matt is out this week minimum. It just depends on which rib, where and how bad the rib is broken. When the hit happened and the way he reacted I was worried he had punctured a lung.
Watch McNabb to see how long he takes to come back to get a meter on how long to expect Matt to be out.
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Lofa’s injury is a hammy. I’ve had my share, and know they are funny…in a way. You need indeterminate amount of rest. Hopefully he didnt further damage it by be out there yesterday.
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Matt played soft? I could have swore he got hurt being our fearless leader and he got hammered (and hurt) for it.
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We can describe this years team in one word: SOFT
I just watched the replay from Sunday. We got physically punished. The injuries are just a sympton of the disease… were SOFT
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Gabe97 put it best,
i have spent waaay too long being excited for this season, and it’s getting scary already, all of the injuries were suffering already. losing key guys left and right to various injuries, is definitely a bummer.
Hasselbeck, Locklear, Griffith, Tatupu, Wilson, on top of the existing injuries to who? W. Jones, Spencer, Branch, Mebane, Hill, Trufant i guess. who else am i missing?
It’s hard to stay positive when after two weeks, that is what we are looking at. many of them with multiple week sit-out injuries.
ugh
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The scary thing about Hasselbeck is everyone knew he was injury prone coming into the year and it took just 1.5 games before he got hurt. He hasn’t been hit very much this year. While the hit from Willis would be brutal for any of us, an NFL QB has to be able to take that kind of hit and get up. Otherwise he won’t make it through even a quarter of a season. And as soon as Hasselbeck took a tough hit, he was out. It’s a function of age and injury history, not toughness.
I’d be very shocked if he is the starter on opening day next year. His health is too fragile and too much of a concern with every play.
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I think we are getting hurt because of the lack of body control when they are playing. Also, lifting incorrectly-like arching your back when you are doing the bench. Even Trufant said it was probably years of lifting incorrectly that hurt his back.
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Begining of last year the hawks get a new training center. They Re-turf Qwest field… Does this have anything to do with knee and back injuries?
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Some of these comments are amazing; They’re soft. It’s the trainers. Mora’s a liar. My personal favorite was that “Forsett is a poor man’s Gore.” What does that mean? There is a real (understandably) sense of panic throughout today and yesterday afternoon’s comments. It would be nice if there were a single answer but there is not. This much I know; they will need the 12th man loud and proud Sunday against a Bears team that won a slugfest against Pitts yesterday. Because no matter where you come out on all this, this season has all the signs of getting away from them in the next couple of weeks, if they can’t hang on to get players back.
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“You play soft you get hurt. You play hard you don’t. 49ers had no injurys. They played fast and hard.
All these injurys can’t be bad luck there gas to be sonthing Seattle is doing. ”
Oh come on . . .
I mean, I know the sentiment, if you play not to get injured, then you will get injured, but every pro in the NFL plays hard – - under your premise, I guess Urlacher and Polamalu are soft too, right?
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I don’t think all the panic here is just about injuries.
*The safety position is still a problem, and is giving up big plays.
*The offense has a trend where is can’t get anything going the first quarter+.
*We are throwing interceptions.
*We are still getting nowhere in the running game with JJ as a starter.
*We still can’t win a game on the road.
*We are having more penalties than we have had historically.
And on and on.
Maybe this isn’t 2008 again. Maybe it’s 1992.
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We are not soft. Yes, we got manhandled at the point on Sunday, esecially our OL. However, the effort was there. There is a difference between being physically overmatched (yesterday) and soft.
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Hamstring injuries – that could be due to a bad conditioning program. But knees and bones, to some extent the back, concussions – that’s just bad luck, or guys built up on steroids whose structures don’t match their muscles.
However, if you look at the injury report for the league a lot of guys are down this week. If there is anything to be thankful for, it’s that we haven’t had any season-ending ones yet.
Other than taking lots of calcium pills or drinking 2 gallons of milk a day, what exactly can anyone do to prevent their bones from breaking? That’s just bad luck.
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Admittedly, it’s with a bunch of young kids, but one of my key guys, on my team, literally knocked himself out when making a tackle on Saturday.
Matt’s play was anything but soft, and to suggest that the reason the Seahawks get injured is that they play soft, well, it shows that you haven’t played football.
Injuries happen. They happen too much to Seahawks, but they happen. There may be some issues in the training room, there may be some issues with the facilities, or it could be blind dumb luck, but it’s not that our players are soft.
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